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« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2007, 08:57:01 pm »



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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2007, 09:36:52 pm »

Hi Bianca


I just saw this "new"post and read it with pleasure, i noticed this part:

"As early as 1883 Ignatius Donnelly suggested that the mid-Atlantic Ridge was a remnant of Atlantis. But most modern geologists and oceanographers consider that, far from being the relic of a continent that sank beneath the sea, the ridge was forced upward from the ocean floor, probably by volcanic activity. One theory is that as the continents drifted apart they produce a huge fault line that is a center of earthquake and produce a huge fault line that is a center of earthquake and volcanic action. Some of the earth's molten center has erupted through this crack and built up into a ridge, even rising above the waves in several places. However, there is evidence that this explanation may have to reviewed before too long."

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This is clearly stating that there was a dislocation in which "the ridge was forced upward from the ocean floor", corroborating a "torn out" or "missing piece" theory, regarding parts of the MAR in the Atlantic floor.

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"Scientists have discovered a large area thousands of square kilometres in extent in the middle of the Atlantic where the Earth’s crust appears to be missing. Instead, the mantle - the deep interior of the Earth, normally covered by crust many kilometres thick - is exposed on the sea-floor, 3000m below the surface."

"Marine geologist Dr Chris MacLeod, School of Earth, Ocean and Planetary Sciences said: "This discovery is like an open wound on the surface of the Earth. Was the crust never there? Was it once there but then torn away on huge geological faults? If so, then how and why?"

"ScienceDaily"  Earth's Crust Missing In Mid-Atlantic
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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2007, 09:52:27 pm »



Glad you found it to your liking, Mario.
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« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2007, 09:54:47 pm »





As usual, I ran into this while doing something else.





THIS IS GWEN'S POST:




"If Atlantis is ever found in the Azores area, the person who's work most pointed the way to that discovery will have been Christian O'Brien. I just found out from my friend Mark Ponta that Christian O'Brien, who died in February 2001, he was 87 years old.

Exactly thirty years earlier. in 1971, he went to the Azores to map what he discovered to be a sunken landmass about the size of Spain in the Azores area.  The following (gathered from dhill's Atlantic Ocean thread) summarizes the work done there nicely.

It is worth noting that, in 1978, the Russians claimed to have made a discovery of walls and steps (covered in lava) near the Ampere Seamounts. In 2001, there was also another report (unsubstantiated) of another underwater city, this time in the Azores' area.  A report in 1973 (by Jeremy Horwick) was similarly unsubstantiated.

While lots of people claim that Atlantis was in the Atlantic (it is still, by far and away the most popular theory), Christian O'Brien actually did the hard scientific work of placing it in the Atlantic. Even if we don't agree with all his conclusions, I think most would agree that it is a shame that so little of his work was followed up on. 

To Christian O'Brien, this topic is for you."
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« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2007, 09:57:51 pm »







GWEN PARKER'S MEMORIAL TO :




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:http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/interactive/midatlan.htm





                                             Atlantis in the Mid-Atlantic   


   
 
A very plausible solution to the Atlantis mystery is that Plato's Atlantic Island was located in the Mid-Atlantic and that the island chain known as the Azores are its surviving remnants. This cluster of nine main islands is located amid a chain of underwater mountains that rise to heights in excess of 9000 metres. They form part of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge which defines the division between tectonic plates, aligned approximately north-south beneath the ocean floor for some 17,600 kilometres. It is the tips of the very highest of these subterranean mountains that protrude from the ocean floor as the principal islands of the Azores, which are themselves endowed with sizeable mountains that soar to a height in excess of 2100 metres. 
   
Perhaps the most important writer to propose that the Azores were remnants of an Atlantean island continent was Ignatius Donnelly, author of the seminal classic Atlantis: The Antediluvian World, first published in 1882. This American congressman set down the foundations for the thousands of books and articles that have been written on the subject of Atlantis over the past 120 years. Although Donnelly's book has seen countless reprints, much of what he had to say about Atlantis being an antediluvial motherland for the diffusion of civilisation on both sides of the Atlantic has since been proved incorrect. 
     
  Despite this drawback, Donnelly's original thesis of a central Atlantean landmass has been perpetuated by a number of well-respected scholars of the Atlantis mystery. They include Russian academic Nikolai Zhirov. In the 1960s he wrote a series of papers on the subject, as well as a definitive book entitled Atlantis - Atlantology: Basic Problems, published in 1970. Like Donnelly, he argued that the former Atlantean landmass lay in the vicinity of the Azores and that, before it sank without trace, it acted as a land-bridge for the migration of flora and fauna between Africa and the Americas. 
     
  Christian O'Brien, a retired industrial geologist, archaeologist and historical writer, has also tackled the concept of a mid-Atlantic continent having once existed in the vicinity of the Azores. In his 1997 book The Shining Ones - co-authored with his wife Barbara Joy - he proposed that the Azorean landmass, as he sees it, suffered immense cataclysms and eventually sank into the earth's liquid magma, leaving only the Azores as hard evidence of its former existence. The discovery of six fields of hot springs in the vicinity of the Azores is, he postulates, firm evidence of this hypothesis.     


  During underwater explorations off the island of São Miguel, the largest island in the Azores group, in 1971 Christian O'Brien found clear evidence of an underwater river bed filled with water-worn boulders. By applying detailed contouring methods to hydrographic charts, the O'Briens discerned that rivers draining off the southern slopes of São Miguel once converged together in a huge valley, now situated some 64 kilometres out from the present coastline. Other islands in the Azores group have yielded similar hydrographic anomalies, and in one case the O'Briens even traced a series of river valleys which extended for a distance of 288 kilometres before converging together in a much larger river basin.
   
  With a knowledge of ancient river systems, the O'Briens were able to reconstruct a land profile which revealed an Azorean landmass 'about the size and shape of Spain', with high mountain ranges rising over 3655 metres above sea-level, as well as impressive rivers that run 'in curving valley systems'. Furthermore, they have pointed out that:
 
In the southeast, a feature which we have called 'The Great Plain' covered an area in excess of 3500 square miles [9065 square kilometres], and was watered by a river comparable in size to the River Thames in England. It has, as we shall see, points in common with a great plain described by Plato in his Critias, as being a feature of the island of Atlantis.


     
  The conclusion drawn from these findings is that the Azores once formed part of a much greater landmass which sank beneath the waves and is now situated 'many thousands of feet' below the current sea-level. To obtain a more substantial insight into this fascinating subject, the O'Briens propose that a scientific team take a series of core samples from the proposed sites of their river channels. They confidently predict that these will show not only evidence of ancient river beds, but also of the freshwater flora and fauna which once thrived on the former Azorean landmass.
     

These are fascinating insights into the protohistory of the Azores group. Yet there are fundamental problems in accepting the theory of a former Azorean landmass. It is now known, for instance, that the volcanic mountains which constitute the Mid-Atlantic Ridge are of relatively recent composition. They are like age-old geological scars on a gaping wound that never properly heals. The north-south orientated tectonic plates produce an upward flow of magma which constantly creates new underwater mountain systems that are unlikely to have formed part of a geological landmass in the manner described. 
   
In addition to these problems, we must also acknowledge that there is now wide-scale acceptance of the so-called continental drift theory, first proposed in 1915 by the German meteorologist Arthur Wegener. In simple terms, this asserts that many millions of years ago the American and African landmasses were joined together, yet ever since they have been slowly moving apart. Just by making paper cutouts of the different continents and slotting them together we can see they fit snugly, suggesting that the continental drift theory is real. Furthermore, the fact that the American and African continents were once joined together explains much of the flora and fauna they share. 
   
More damning is the fact that when the first Portuguese navigators reached the Azorean islands in 1427, they found them devoid not only of human life but also of any fauna. Even though some evidence has emerged to imply that in the third century BC Carthaginian vessels from North Africa reached Corvo, the westernmost of the Azorean islands, no archaeology has come to light to suggest that the archipelago ever supported an indigenous culture. 
     
  Even if the O'Briens' proposals regarding prehistoric river beds, located off the coast of São Miguel, do prove to be correct it seems unlikely that Plato's Atlantis is the memory of a high culture which once thrived on any proposed Azorean landmass. No evidence of an indigenous culture has ever come to light on any of the islands and there is no reason to assume that Plato's Atlantis account alludes to a landmass of this sort. Even though he did state that Atlantis was the size of Libya (North Africa) and Asia combined, it can be argued that this did not relate to the physical size of the island but to the extent of the dominion held by the kings of Atlantis. This can be determined from the Critias, where Plato refers specifically to a much smaller, east-west orientated landmass that cannot have been any more than 600 kilometres in width (see the entry for the Americas).




Donnelly, Ignatius, Atlantis: The Antediluvian World, 1882, Harper, New York/London, 1902
Muck, Otto, The Secret of Atlantis, 1976, Collins, London, 1978
O'Brien, Christian & Barbara Joy O'Brien, The Shining Ones, Dianthus Publishing, Kemble, Cirencester, Glos., 1997
Zhirov, N. F., Atlantis - Atlantology: Basic Problems, Progress Publishers, Moscow, 1970
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GWEN PARKER'S MEMORIAL TO

CHRISTIAN O'BRIEN

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INTRODUCTION

Christian O'Brien in Chapter 18 of The Shining Ones features the basic historical and geological evidence which identifies the Azores as the site of the Island of Atlantis. In an outstanding career as exploration geologist he is no stranger to successfully challenging established perceptions and raises the key issue of the deep crustal rifting associated with such flood basalt constructions.

He has produced the survey of the Island, shown within the attached documents taken from Admiralty Charts, which have now been superseded by the more accurate Institute of Oceanographic Sciences map also shown. Further detailed hydrographic input is required in order to present a even clearer picture to allow further studies and the siting for new sediment cores in un-disturbed areas.

The technology needed to prove or disprove the Atlantis issue is now available. Science has reached the point of being able to understand both the creation of' such large structures and the subsequent catastrophic movements in the earths crust, which have destroyed them. Finding and dating the remains of fresh water life at depths of up to 4000 metres, finding coral, sandy beaches and volcanic material below sea level and identifying former river valleys is within reach and we look forward to providing further news on this subject later in the year.

So far this century there has been a confirmed report of a one mile rise in the floor of the ocean 576 miles north of Azores when a trans-atlantic cable broke. Dr David F. Zhirov in 1970 reported sand beaches and coral at a depths of 2 miles south of the Azores. Confirmed evidence exists that sections of the Mid-Atlantic ridge have been above sea level in the past and fresh water diatoms have been found 2 miles down in the Azores area dated 10,000 to 12,000 BC.

Volcanic material described as un-dissolved tachylite was found on Telegraph Bank 500 miles north of Azores, indicating that it had been laid down above sea level at some time between 50,000 BC and 10,000 BC. Sediment core analysis at locations off the coast of Africa have proved a 2 mile sinkage of volcanic island structures similar to those of the Azores.

The more detailed evidence provided by the latest underwater surveys will assist in identify the former glacial sea level, and locating the river canyons of' a large island where rivers Joined the sea before sea levels rose, thus matching the river canyon features of the American, European and African continental shelves.

Open minds are required to concentrate current resources on the many disciplines required to re-create or resolve this mystery which has immense importance to our understanding of human origins and human diffusion. In particular, migrations from Africa to the America's from 60,000 BC.

Important knowledge has been gathered at other sites on flood basalt formations, collapsed volcanic cones, plate tectonics, deep crustal rifting together with the rebound by up to 1km of the thick and old earths crust freed from the weight of glacial ice and the compensatory sinkage of perhaps up to 4km In the fragile young and thin oceananic crustal areas adjacent to major active fault zones.

The Institute of Oceanographic Sciences map, contoured in metres, shows the islands of the Azores as the volcanic peaks of the worlds greatest Mountain range. The area is bounded on the west by the Mid-Atlantic Ridge rift valley fault, to the north by the Kurchatov Fracture Zone, on the east by deep ocean, and on the whole southern flank by the massive and deep East Azores Fracture Zone. Here we can see the three major tectonic plates which converge in this fragile crustal area, making it perhaps the most unstable structure on the planet.

There is no doubt that world sea levels have risen on average some 400 feet since the maximum influence of the Ice Age, although the identification of shore lines at this date around 16,500 BC must be considered in the light of much greater compensatory movements in the earths crust and other factors. Certainly a large island at this latitude would have been a suitable glacial refuge for plants, animals and man, during a highly inhospitable, cold and extremely dry climatic phase with so much of the earths moisture locked tip within Ice sheets.

Sea level rises may have been relatively stable in the area of Atlantis until two accelerated sea rises, due to massive melt water discharges, from land/ice locked lakes around 12,000 BC (50-40cm per annum) and 9,300 BC (30-20 mm per annum). A third and final accelerated rise took occured between 6,000 and 5,500 BC as result of further melt water discharges. The process of' sea level rise took place as the earth warmed to the highest levels recorded for over 120,000 years, peaking before 2350 BC by some 3°C higher than current levels.

The observational evidence of the geological structure of the Azores Islands, above and below current sea level, does provide evidence of river systems, which must have been created by a much larger land area. However not enough convincing evidence exists because of substantial past volcanic activity, subsidence and land slippage within the area. This creates problems in searching both for ancient remains or biological evidence that may still exist.

Catastrophic flooding, collapse and sinking at around 9,500 BC has been suggested by many historical sources and it has now become a simple matter for science to prove or disprove the thesis. Confirmation and dating of a very large sunken island requires access to and analysis of just a few sediment cores and a search for underwater structures in key locations. These may exist from just below the surface of the sea down to a depth of 11,000 feet.

It is important to realise that the O'Brien survey and the small adjustment for tilt re- creates the island as clearly described by Plato and many other independent and unconnected sources. The major building structures, if they still exist, will lie to the south west of the great plain in an area covered by the greatest depth of.' water close to the catastrophic crustal rifting of the East Azores Fault Zone, which can be clearly seen on the Institute of Oceanographic Sciences map.

We have featured more than 30 important books on our recommended reading list, which in total have produced a weight of evidence to support the basic thesis presented by O'Brien, spanning from the common records of the earliest antiquity to serious modern research. Only now are we beginning to appreciate the stature and reliability of the records presented by Solon and Plato, and accept recent Scientific explanations for related dramatic crustal rifting movements and vertical movements of the earths crust.

On a world wide scale there is common story of a great flood preceded by exceptional rainfall and accompanied by earth quakes and volcanic eruptions. It may be of significance to state that tsunami tidal waves were not directly mentioned in connection with this great flood story and that modern science has identified and dated three distinct rapid rises and three small declines in sea level since the ice age as the worlds climate warmed. The first great flood may have held more significance to early man and Atlantis, than the many subsequent floods and other natural disasters. The latter include interruptions to the circulatory flow of the Gulf Stream through fresh water input/ice melt, and episodic cometary debris impacts.

We welcome further input into this project from all interested parties. The more detailed hydrographic information, which we hope to obtain from the Portuguese authorities and the Southampton University Oceanographic Department, will allow a few small steps to be made to either dismiss the existence of Atlantis at this site or confirm the detailed evidence to re-create the great legend as fact.
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« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2007, 10:18:51 pm »

                                                 






Christian & his wife Barbara Joy O'Brien's website, which covers a lot of different topics:

http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/index.html


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                                  Revising History - Recovering Knowledge





This site has been set up by the Patrick Foundation, an independent research network, to provide a down to earth, common sense base, for all those open minded people who seek the highest standards of information on human origins, history and human relations subjects...






We supply and recommend specialist books, present scientific and archaeological papers and display visual archaeological history in a range of formats.

Featured and central to this site are the mind stretching books by Christian and Barbara Joy O'Brien - The Genius of The Few, The Shining Ones and The Path of Light.

Whilst we unreservedly recommend The Genius of the Few as a starting point and an easy read for all students on the origins of civilisation and agriculture from the ancient texts, The Shining Ones represents a more complex 752 page major compilation of evidence to support the full O'Brien research thesis. A thesis which describes the re-start of civilisation and agriculture following global catastrophe c. 9,300 BC.

It includes all the material contained within The Genius of the Few, but adds a great deal more information on the influence and evidence of the technology of The Shining Ones all round the world. It also presents the evidence for a spiritual dimension and a spiritual influence from the historic records.

The Path of Light presents the rediscovery of Jesus’s teachings to his Inner Circle, from the lost Books of the Savour, bringing together the key links on spirituality and supporting the existence of the one original benevolent source for all religions.

Christian O'Brien's translation of the Askew and Bruce Codices, 2nd century AD Egyptian Coptic copies of original documents recording the spoken words of Jesus of Nazareth, presented within the text of The Path of Light, provide authoritative and detailed support for the existence and journeys of the soul in other dimensions.

Of significance within these texts, are the references that they were recorded and witnessed by the disciple scribes Matthew, Philip and Thomas - the required process of authentification of important documents, under the Hebraic law of that time.

This source document makes it clear that Jesus physically and spiritually survived the crucifixion.

It is now accepted that Philip carried Jesus' teachings to Western Europe, and Thomas took them to India. The earliest known version of the Acts of Thomas in the St Catharine's Monastery library, Sinai, make it clear that Thomas was having regular meetings with Jesus in Northern India, after the crucifixion.

Of the greatest importance to the future of religious harmony today, is that this O'Brien secular translation of these source documents has established that Jesus was teaching Surat (soul) Shabd (word) Yoga (union) to his inner circle of disciples, which contained both men and women. This advanced teaching to both men and women was a feature of all high cultures in the ancient world centered on the archaic Druidic philosophy and practice.

As our research has gathered pace we have been able to add supporting evidence for the O'Brien scholarship from a wide range of authors and other sources.








                             The Golden Age Project offers substantial evidence on:





 A single benevolent source for law and subsequent religions - 
 
An alternative translation of the Genesis text -
 
Translation of the much earlier archaic cuneiform Sumerian Kharsag Epics -

 Confirmation of the sophistication of the Garden of Eden site from the Chronicles of Enoch - 

 Location of the Garden of Eden site in Southern Lebanon - 
 
The diffusion of civilisation and agriculture from Southern Lebanon around the world in archaic times, evolving through the City State system of social administration, based on the Divine Laws of Anu and Enlil -

 The advanced archaic worldwide civilization of the Shining Ones -   

 Scientific analysis of megalithic structures in Britain confirming advanced observational astronomy c. 2,500 BC - 
 
Episodic global catastrophe and climate change - 
 
Yahweh or Jehovah as a real person. Self proclaimed leader of the Shining Ones - 
 
The words of Jesus teaching of the Surat (soul) Shabd (word) Yoga (union) to his inner circle of disciples, which contained both men and women -

Jesus as the husband of Mary Magdalene and the father of their three children -
 
Jesus' attempt to restore the tradition of monarchy and good government, though the Grail Code. -
 
Jesus as a perfect living master in the tradition of the ancient world, as one of the many sons of the One God - 
 
The establishment of the first church in Britain in AD 63 - 

 Phaistos Disc written in the archaic picture and symbol language of eme-an - translated by Christian O'Brien -   

 The scientific concept of a guiding influence upon mankind from a spiritual dimension -
 
The geological proof of the former existence of a large area of land above sea level on the Mid Atlantic Ridge -

 A survey of the Island of Atlantis -
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                                                            BOOKS





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Our research, which we would like to share with you, centres on the scholarship of Christian and Barbara Joy O'Brien. We feature below the O'Brien books in order of their publication dates, and continue to add scholarship from around the world, which supports and enlarges upon their basic thesis. Travelling with their road map of history and time has proved very rewarding, and we continue with their quest for knowledge which supports belief.

Christian O'Brien retired in 1970 from an exceptional career as an exploration geologist, reaching the position of head of the oil operating companies in Iran at the time of the Shah. In an attempt to disprove ley lines, he began to carry out detailed surveys of standing stones, mounds and other ancient structures near his home in North Essex. Far from disproving them, in one survey he found precise megalithic mile measurements repeated across the landscape for 26 megalithic miles, leading to his discovery of the slightly curved Line A between Hatfield Forest and Wandlebury. The curve allowed precisely for the curvature of the Earth, proving the existence of Loxadrome astronomy angled to the Earth's Meridian. This enabled precise observations and calculations on the timing and movements of the orbits of planets, stars and comets. This line proved the existence of knowledge of the Earths dimensions around 2,500 BC. His search for the technically advanced ancient builders of such structures followed this discovery. He started lecturing on his findings in London in 1974, bringing into these lectures the knowledge he was accumulating on the origins of the architect surveyors from the Land of Canaan and Sumeria, who came to Britain.




  O'Brien books in order of publication date




An Integrated Astronomical Complex of Earthworks at Wandlebury and Hatfield Forest
from the Third Millenium BC
1975
Authors: Christian & Barbara Joy O'Brien

This treatise is the record of five years of field-work and computation carried out over the whole of East Anglia and its border areas to the west. As a study of possible astronomical alignments of great antiquity, marked on the ground by monoliths and earthen mounds, it has had to use many disciplines - archaeology, astronomy, geology, mathematics, geodesy and tertiary surveying.

 
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The Megalithic Odyssey


1983
Authors: Christian & Barbara Joy O'Brien

The Pyramids - The massive earthworks of Avebury and Silbury Hill - The first stages of Stonehenge - The early Mesopotamian ziggurats - The sophisticated cities of Mohenjo-daro and Harappa in the Indus Valley…

All these immense structures were constructed over a span of only two centuries in an unprecedented period of precision building that suddenly flowered from primitive peasant cultures.

How can this sudden intellectual and imaginative leap be explained? This pioneering and controversial book persuasively argues for the appearance in prehistory of an advanced elite, a race of master builders, who traveled the world guiding and directing indigenous populations with godlike assurance.

 


 

The Genius Of The Few


1985
Authors: Christian & Barbara Joy O'Brien

First published in 1985 this remarkable book has stood both the test of time and peer review, to become a classic amongst specialists in the human origin and history.



 
 

The Path of Light


2007 (1996 five private copies)
Author: Christian O'Brien

Christian O’Brien’s translations of the Askew and Bruce Codices, 2nd century AD Egyptian Coptic copies of original documents recording the spoken words of Jesus of Nazareth, presented within the text of The Path of Light, provide authoritative and detailed support of the existence and journeys of the soul.

 
 



The Shining Ones


1997
Authors: Christian & Barbara Joy O'Brien

This book includes all the material contained within The Genius of the Few, but adds a great deal more information on the unfolding diaspora of the Shining Ones from the Southern Lebanon site around the world, their advanced technology and their influence over the next 8,000 years.
 
 

 
 

Eastern Odyssey -
Experiences of a young geologist


2005
Author: Christian O'Brien
Introduced by his wife Barbara Joy O'Brien

Christian O'Brien wrote fascinating letters. He re-created with a sure choice of words his immediate situation, so that his correspondent felt with him, despite the separation of time. The Eastern Odyssey is a compilation of his letters home to his mother, from a young man straight from Christ's College, Cambridge, who was taken on by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, now British Petroleum, as a geologist in 1936. Enthusiastic and keen to do his best in his first challenging job, exploring for oil in the wastes of Southern Iran, these letters and linked photographs from the BP archives, provide a fascinating insight into the mind and background of an extraordinarily competent and successful man.
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                                                       Atlantis in the Azores





I'll start with the Azores: the area in the Atlantis where many believe there could have never been an Atlantis or a part of it.

Let's go one more time through it though.

Ignatius Donnelly was among the first people to present such a theory and sustain it perfectly. But it's not Donnelly who draws people to search for Atlantis in the Atlantic Ocean, or in the Azores. It's actually the perfect relationship between Plato's work, Piri Reis' and Kircher's map, the legends and stories of the nearby civilizations, the mysteries found on the shores of Africa and Eastern South America, the unanswered questions of the scientists, the common root of the languages, the necessity of the existence of a bridge that brought the white people to Europe. It's so complex and the solution might solve so many problems that it's way too hard to look away from the Azores theory. No other theory would satisfy all the enigmas better than this one.

In 1947, a geology professor, Dr. Maurice Ewing, led an expedition to study the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, a mountainous crest that separates the Atlantic Ocean in two, crossing it vertically. He mapped the sea floor and his data returned a map of a land more or less in the shape given by Kircher's map. His research uncovered rocks that would change Alfred Wegener's, the German scientist, theory on the separation of continents by drifting apart and creating the Atlantic Ocean in the middle. This is the theory that basically denies the possible existence of Atlantis in Atlantic, since, according to his theory, there was no space for such a continent, or island, there.


Dr. Ewing didn't claim the existence of Atlantis, but he did run into some interesting sediments that puzzled him. On the left side of the Ridge levels of beaches and terraces, 2 to 20 miles broad, were found. He also found submerged beaches, about halfway between Bermuda and New York, about 300 miles from the coast.

One year later, Dr. Ewing returned for more investigation, and he dated the sandy beaches. The older group's age was determined to 225,000 to 325,000 years ago, while the other group dates 20,000 to 100,000 years ago. Also the samples taken from the Mid-Atlantic Ridge show fossils of lake and fresh water creatures, and land plants.

In 1970, Dr. David F. Zhirov found submerged sand beaches 2 miles south of Azores.
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Azores has a very interesting location. Not only does it have twelve volcanoes, but it is bounded on the west by the Mid-Atlantic Ridge rift valley fault, while at the north you can find the Kurchatkov Fracture Zone, and on the south, by the East Azores Fracture Zone. It is the meeting point of three tectonic plates, thus volcanoes and earthquakes are quite common. There's no wonder that all that is left from the Azores Islands is a few mountain peaks.

The area is highly unstable. For example, trans-Atlantic cables broke a few times in the area, and once, due to lanf risings, the cable was found a few miles off its initial location.


You don't have to take into consideration only the sea rises that took place around 12000 BC, 9300 BC, and about 6000 BC when you are looking for Atlantis in the Azores. You also have to see the volcanoes, and take into consideration the tectonic plates. On the picture below, you can actually see the large number of volcanoes condensed into the Azores. As I was saying in a previous chapter, lands also rise and fall when volcanoes erupt. A whole island can be submerged, or a whole island can appear, and then disappear again.

Of course, you can argue with me that no relics, no temples, nothing had been found here or beneath the ocean. That actually wouldn't surprise me at all: in such an unstable area, finding something under cemented rocks, under the solidified lava, would be extremely hard. Temples tumble, fall. 9000 years of instable activity in the area, and everything would be reduced to big boulders, which would be covered by sediments, molten lava, pieces of mountains that broke during eruptions. The crust could have risen, just like in the other places I have told you about, and then it could have swallowed the temples.

Also, the linguists have found many common words in the languages belonging to the areas encircling the Atlantic Ocean. Coincidence? Hard to believe. More like common source.

So maybe Atlantis - Plato's Atlantis, that is - is not in the Azores. Still, the Atlantic must have had a large island back then. Or else, a bunch of small islands scattered in the ocean wouldn't make sense. Easy to imagine them though being a bit bigger, right?

Well, it's all a matter of belief. But, if this theory proves true, the whole  history might change


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..........Christian O'Brien in Chapter 18 of The Shining Ones features the basic historical and geological evidence which identifies the Azores as the site of the Island of Atlantis. In an outstanding career as exploration geologist he is no stranger to successfully challenging established perceptions and raises the key issue of the deep crustal rifting associated with such flood basalt constructions.

The technology needed to prove or disprove the Atlantis issue is now available. Science has reached the point of being able to understand both the creation of' such large structures and the subsequent catastrophic movements in the Earths crust, which have destroyed them. Finding and dating the remains of fresh water life at depths of up to 4000 meters, finding coral, sandy beaches and volcanic material below sea level and identifying former river valleys is within reach and we look forward to providing further news on this subject later in the year.

So far this century [last century actually, Hutton's correction] there has been a confirmed report of a one mile rise in the floor of the ocean 576 miles north of the Azores when a trans-Atlantic cable broke. [Emphasis added by Hutton]. Dr David F. Zhirov [Prof. N. Zhirov, Hutton's correction] in 1970 reported sand beaches and coral at depths of 2 miles south of the Azores. Confirmed evidence exists that sections of the Mid-Atlantic ridge have been above sea level in the past and [fresh-] water diatoms have been found 2 miles down in the Azores area dated 10,000 to 12,000 BC.

Try as I might, I have been unable to confirm this assertion of a one-mile rise in the floor of the ocean some 567 miles north of the Azores. Others may be able to determine the veracity of the statement.

Note also that Christian O'Brien produces an interesting map of his concept of the last big island of Atlantis to be submerged. This is called Poseidia in Cayce’s readings, and its final destruction was said (readings 364-1, 288-1, and 339-1) to taken place between 12,700 and 11,900 B.P. (years before the present), or approximately 10,700 to 9,900 B.C. Although I have not studied O’Brien’s data and assumptions behind his map, it brings an exploration geologist’s perspective to the same area that The Hutton Commentaries believes was the last part of Atlantis above the waves before the final destruction; i.e., Poseidia.
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Seismic evidence. We searched the National Earthquake Information Center’s database for quakes within the area enclosed by the boundaries of Figure 3. This is the Poseidian-Atlantis “target area” that we believe is described in reading 2012-1 at the beginning of this section.

This search, from 01/01/1973 through 06/27/2003, turned up 724 earthquakes greater than M 3.0, with focal depths between 5 and 33 km (3.1-20.5 miles) out of a possible depth of 100 km. The three largest earthquakes had magnitudes of M 6.2, one of M 6.3, and one of M 6.6. Over the period, there were three clusters of 8 closely-spaced-in-time quakes, one cluster of 9 (in 2003), one cluster of 13 (in 1997), one cluster of 24 (in 1974), one cluster of 28 (in 2001), and one cluster of 35 (in 1996-1997). For further information on the earthquakes statistics is presented in Table 2.
 

 

Table 2. Statistics for Earthquake Survey of Figure 3 Area Discussed in the Text.
 


Figure

Number Cluster

Size Date Average

Magnitude Peak

Magnitudes
 
1 8 12/9/96    4.4 2 >= 5.0,
1 > 6.0
2 8 2/6/97 -
3/25/97    4.6 2 > 5.0
3 8 7/31/00 -
8/31/00    4.9 3 > 5.0
4 9 4/27/03 -
6/25/03    4.7 2 > 5.0
5 13 6/27/97 -
7/15/97    4.6 3 > 5.0
6 24 5/15/74 -
5/25/74    4.6 4 >= 5.0
7 28 3/16/01 -
4/1/01    4.4 1 = 5.0
8 35 12/21/96 -
3/4/97    4.4 7 >= 5.0
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The locations of the earthquake clusters are plotted on Figure 3. Also plotted is the epicenter of the single largest earthquake ever recorded in the Azores area (M 7.6). This earthquake occurred in February of 1968, reminding us of reading 958-3 which says
And Poseidia will be among the first portions of Atlantis to rise again. Expect it in sixty-eight and sixty-nine (’68 and ’69); not so far away!

Note well that the Poseidia that we believe could have existed is not in the vicinity of Bimini in the Bahamas. It is in the Azores region. Thus, it seems probable to us that the M 7.6 earthquake shown on Figure 3 could simply have been heralding the beginning of the first portions (here the Poseidian portion) of Atlantis’s slow rising.

What is striking to Hutton is the location of the 35-quake cluster of 12/21/1996 -03/04/1997. The two-month quaking of the crust, including seven quakes greater than M 5.0, occurred to the west of the median valley of the MAR, almost at the end of the 1958-1998 period mentioned in 3976-15 as being the period during which the Earth changes would be beginning.

The next largest cluster (28 quakes in 03/2001) occurred in the "Anomalous Area," again, west of the median valley of the MAR. If anyone is going to find evidence of the rising of this part of Atlantis (sunken Poseidia of the readings), he or she will probably find it most readily in one of these two places. The evidence would be obtained from analysis of old and new bathymetric surveys that traversed the areas. Bottom depths from surveys before 1960 should be deeper than those found in the years 2000-2003.

Then again, we must remember that aseismic slip might play a role in the gradual elevation of Atlantis. This is the process by which crustal blocks move along fault surfaces without producing easily detectable earthquakes. 
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Fig. 3. Physiographic reconstruction of Poseidia (called here Poseidonis), after N. Zhirov, as based on a diagram by B. Heezen and M. Tharp. Note the location of the major (M7.6) earthquake of 1968.

(Recall too this reading fragment,



"And Poseidia will be among the first portions of Atlantis to rise again. Expect it [to begin clearly to rise?] in

sixty-eight and sixty-nine…."[958-3]). 



A repository for the records of the Atlantean civilization may be found in the area shown by blue shading. The Atlantean records repository will be found in a specific temple

"where a portion of the temples may yet be discovered." (See reading 440-5).

See text for an explanation of red dots A-C, sites of deep-water sampling of subaerial material representative of an emergent continent. (Subaerial refers to conditions and processes that exist or operate in the open air on and immediately adjacent to a land surface).
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Direct Evidence of An Emergent Atlantis





Here is information on a former emergent continent in the Atlantic Ocean that was summarized by MacKenzie Keith10 for former shallow water or emergent sites sampled by the Deep Sea Drilling Project (DSDP). The sampling sites are currently underwater in the region of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge (MAR).

Locations for three of these sites (Keith, 2001, Table 1) are shown by large red dots on Figure 3, a relief map of the Azores region we have used in previous articles on THC’s website. The red dots are rather large because, while the sampling coordinates that are listed give degrees north latitude, they do not give degrees west longitude. It is understood, however, that the samples were taken in the vicinity of the MAR’s axial valley, clearly visible on Figure 3.

Here’s what was found at point A, at a depth of 12,802 ft.: highly vesicular basalt, weathered and oxidized basalt, and a major gap in the basal sedimentary section that indicates subaerial erosion. At site B, at a depth of 12,440 ft, basaltic pebbles and weathered and oxidized basalt were found. And at site C, in 12,313 ft of water, once again basaltic pebbles and weathered and oxidized basalt were found. All of the above findings are strong indicators of a formerly emerged MAR. And they suggest that this volcanic terrain has sunk a minimum of 12,300 ft since being exposed to the atmosphere.

Note that Keith’s Table 1 lists six additional MAR sampling sites-to the south of those plotted on our Figure 3 and on down to the equator. Two of these sampling sites show ridge tops flattened by wave erosion, one revealed Tertiary-age shallow water sediment, and another revealed Cretaceous-age shallow water sediment. A final, rather startling finding consists of canyons and a trellis drainage system, quite possibly formed subaerially at a depth greater than 9800 ft.

That MAR location is between 26º and 27ºN, to the south of the area covered in Figure 3.
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