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BlueHue's solution to Atlantis-PUZZLE=HattiLand now HEDJAZ

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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2017, 08:30:05 am »

First of all i am not your friend and secondly you Georgios are finished. Same thing happened to Robert Sarmast. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2017, 10:14:39 am »

My friend, please take back the bad words. Georgeos is the matador of Atlanti researchers and all others the bulls!  Be not jealous of him but acknowledge his greatness. Also be not intellectual vampire and continue to steal his ideas.

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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2017, 09:16:23 am »

Date August 7 2017

Dr Carlos Guemeros & Critias & Atalante

THANK YOU for your attentive REPLIES !

ATALANTE
You did state your Location Theory a couple of Years ago,
but I must confess that I have forgotten it
My location in Aden roughly Jemen is more conspicueous
THANKS for your comment on Atlas daughters
The(7)Atlantides but what about the 7 Hyades err Heliades
are'nt they the same ? daughters of Helios=daughters ofHelios?

CRITIAS
everybody has his own opinion IF Georgeos wants to see Atlantis in Spain
that's his problem but he suffers from Media shortage too
About 4 other Atlantis Buffs located it elsewhere
I must say Atlantis in Spain is mighty confusing
My Hypothesis is,
The Diaspora Dana oif 705 bc brought 'Atlanteans'from
south Araby to SPAIN & they renbamed it Terra Cognita
(   or Baetica(=Bata) Atlantis names from Arabia Felix reapper in Spain
Atlantis is Iberia,  Hibernia short for HYPERBORIA
( Shortend to Hebrew=Hyperia a name for Hedjaz

Dr GUEUMEROS
'Georgeos' may be a jolly nice bloke but I equate him with Dr.Zahi-Hawass
The problem with 'Georgeos'is that he doesn't want to kinow
that Atlanteans from the Tribe of 'Atalantes'in
south Araby( Aden/ Jemen.) colonized Spain in the
'Diaspora Dana( 705 bc)and renamed it after'Atlantis'
So naturally theer exist Atlantean/ Plato toponyms in all Spain
LIVIUS
in his 'ab urbe conditio' is to be blamed
His commision was to write about impirtant roman Families,
Not about the equall poor immigrants from South Araby,
when they organized the "Villa Novae-culture in italy
so 'Georgeo' is a nice armchair archaeologist or
a practitioner / Buff of 'historical Geography
we cannot do witout personalities like him

If he thinks that Atlantis is in SPAIN let him
íf he is happy with that I think he is funny
Author John Romer worked his way up as a commwentator
 with Enormous pleasire  'Georgeous'
should become a graphic Novel in Atlantology!
Good luck & all the best
Ps Dr Greg Little too has to maintain that HE
looks fot Atlantias in South America
otherwise his funding would dry-up

ATALANTE
in the meantime I have made some more 'Columns"
File Attachments for you & Anybody else, to be read
I have not the gift of the gab nor a silver spoon in my mouth
yet I hope that you can continue to read my 'Garbled-English'
"To whom it may concern "

I will try to get some more File-attachments into the next "reply"


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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2017, 10:53:25 am »

This is the third occasioin that I timed out
[Dear Atalante

 Thank you for your post replies

My Hypothesis in Brief


ONE Year 1500 bc  is year 1.000 bc

TWO Greek gods are actually assyrian God-kings with greek names
this is EASY TO VERIFY

THREE Atlantis is short for Hattiland noiw Hedjaaz in Far-WEST Arabia

The name MEDIA terranean Sea that surrounds the WORLD
comes from the Land of MEDIA or Mittanni is also a toponym for Hedjaz
(= Sinus in Latin) Thus the RED Sea OR Okeanos Arabicus


HEDJAZ if you haven't noticed is greek
MiD Dias sea of the double land Araby is short for
TERRA DIAQ o r Terra Bia  or Paradias & Meso potamia"
Means roughly "Double-Land

Diaspora Dana occurred when King Sargon wants
 the Kanaanites
'( E.g. Latin Greek & Cartagean peoples out of the way
 to get at Ade-Port(=Khadesh)

Conclusion
Before the Diaspora  Dana in 705 bc No Latin greeks
lived in Europe
They brought their names & traditions with them
Even Eratosthenes in a sence wAS AN HISTORICAL
Map forgerer He interposesd the Herodotos map of Araby on Europe

So for every classical european name
there is a double billing name in Araby

This is what I try to convwey to the serious reader

As I said before
If one cannot Find ATLATIS- Location, than
try to find an easier way out and go from there
The easyway out is to find out
WHO was king ATLAS ?
than his country's location will follow!

I herby reserve for my Hypothesis,
that King ATLAS(2) is none other than an assyrian king
AssurnassurPal2
Father of Teje & Jezabel(= Jeza-Baal & 'Eth baal.)

I have to type this in a noisy University Library
it is much easier to read my (6) File-attatchments
 that I typed at night in the quietness of my attic-room

I hope to set a ageles misunderstanding right
Mr Callieux & the Grave ( 1800-1850 ad)2 belgian scholars
 predecessed me
the only difference was that for the REAL OKEANOS

AGAIN
the American faul is to take the Atlantic oceaqn toponym foir REAL
Every histoirian can oir should know that the original
toponym for Arlantic ocean was ; SPANISH SEA'

This wa renamed only as late as 1648 in the traty that
ended the 80-years war between Spain England & the
 Dutch Republic of 7 Provinces
The Peace Treaty of West-Falia signed in Munster in 1648

The other day
Hero/super Member' SILVER'
thought she coulsd stand me corrected by stating:
"Dude, the 'Atlantic Ocean'is  around America"
I mean that is what is wrong with ATLANTIS research
The moidewrn Historianns take noi notice
of ancient Toponyms
How than can a sane person expect to find
 Atlantida; Atlantikos NESOS OR InDEED' ATLANTIS'

The closestr redearcher of Atlantis is Mr
GEORGEOS DIAZ at this point nobody has better
arguments YET. ( Even if he is wrong about the original Atlantis
he certainly found the surrogate Atlantis in Spain(= Espagna)
The land of the Hesperids

For later
I appologize that I am not capable
at this point in time

see the error of their ways

Mr Caillieux & De Grave had to wait 100 years
 to verfy that the present mediterranean people
are immigrants by diaspora Dana FROM SOUTH ARABIA
Dr V is ridiculed for 60 years already
My Hypothesis should
SOLVE the PUZZLE of Atlantis finally

I thank the Audience for their attention &
Please read the File-AttaCHMENTS
'
or Mediterranean Sea they chose the Atlantic ocean
instead of the Old Med( aka the Red Sea & Hedjaz.)
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ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2017, 09:55:57 am »

My friend, your theory borrows heavily from the brilliant Spanish searcher Georgeos Diaz MOntexano. Be not an intellectual vampire, my friend, please credit him with your discovery.

Warm Greetings of Carlos

DEAR  SIR,
I am sorry for typing errors but my excuse is bad Eyes !

We have not met,
 but we know a common Atlantis-researchg Collegue:
 Mr. 'GEORGEOS 'Diaz

HIS ETERNALMerit was/is restarting the Atlantis Hype
in 2003, than came the MILOS Hoax conferences   2003-2005-2008

They did not find 'Atlantis proper neither did GEORGEOS,

But he was the closest to the holy Truth
We amateur historians & Atlantology-Buffs FORGET

That the Spanish & Greeks themnselves told us
that  THEY are refugiues vfrrom the ATLANTIS Desaster
and so are immigrants in The mediterranean
 By this fact No Country in the MED
can be Atlantis

My personal  Theory is that Greeks came to Greece
in the Diaspora Dana of 705 bc.

I had contact with 'GEORGEOS'5 years ago
He did congratulate me with my theory, but

Also said that his was too different from mine and
does not match  And that I should stay off his personal Website

This does not mean that we cannot communicate
so I attach my latest letter
Thank You for reading
& Best greetings to:'GEORGEOS'
from 'BlueHue'
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2017, 10:04:38 am »



Dear Dr GUEREMOS

Spain is not Atlantis,
but the Spaniards did come from Atlantis
because they say that they are from Atlantis as fugitives

from the Deluge of Atlantis
I am sorry for 'GEORGEOS'if he thinks otherwise

Sincerely

'BlueHue'
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PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2017, 10:44:51 am »

But the Georgeos is the best researcher, would you not agree?  Smiley
No I don't agree. He is a fraud. He was exposed on that documentary, Atlantis Rising.

Dear 'CRITIAS',

I apologize,
 We haven't met
I have spoken to ma'y other ( hero-)MEMBERS
but they never supported me exccept members
'Atalante'& 'Julia'

Who actually said that they don't believe me, but
in the meantime, by their edudcated Replies,
 they unwittingly, corroberate my Issue esp0ecially'Julia'

Odd though 'Atalante' is a man 'Critias'a female
What am I as 'BlueHue'( a Ghost?)or a Child!

Anyway as a recluse,
 I missed out on Atlantis Docuymentaries
( 2009  10 weeks theories by Sci Fi-TV)
+ another Main BBC history Atlantis Movie( 2010)

My personal opinion is that If one cannot find 'Atlantis'
Why not look for the Atlantis-Kinglist and go from there ?

Mr Theophile-Cailleux & Charles de Grave( 1799) & Iman Wilkes(1991
all positioned 'Troja'in England or Holland for Pete sakes!( Never Spain)

LIVIUS was commisioned to write about important roman Families
His reaqders were not intrested in Rome's origin from Arabia Phoelix

I disclose that  Rome was founded in ( R-)Oman dd 755 bc
and by a Diaspora Dana romans came to italy in 705 bc

So 'Roma'is foubded twice as a double billing
In Aden( Jemen & ItalRome Troy & old Athens
& old-Jerusaloemn(=KHadesh)
are the very same city of Aden in ( Aden/Jemen)
Curious isn't it ?
 I cannot explain it  by Post entries
because of bad eyesight So I pray
 Please take the trouble to open my
File Attatchment(s)
And give an 'honest5'/ opoinion about my findings

Hero-super MEMBER 'Bianca'was right
I didn't do Textbook ReseaRCH
BUT USED THE moreQUICKER ETHYMOLOGY WAY

Enjoy saver this theory/Hypothesis: '' Atlantis is Aden "

Sincerely 'BlueHue'  Aug 10 2017
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This Egyptian,INDIAN-Ocean trade-Empire was
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PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2017, 11:33:21 pm »

My friend, several mistakes in your work, too numerous to count. Spain was a part of Atlanti, we Spaniards are the new Atlanti. Advice: Georgeos is a teacher, knows Atlanti, please enroll in his classes, take friend Critias with you. The Georgoes the only smart one that knows Atlanti

Warm Greetings of Carlos
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2017, 08:35:59 am »

re: my screen name, atalante

When I first started posting on Atlantis bulletin boards (which was a long time ago), I chose my screen name atalante, to memorialize the 426 BC earthquake-and-tsunami disaster at Atalante island.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greeks/atlantis_01.shtml#three



re:  the Atlantean kings list

Critias claimed that the king-name Gadeirus/Eumelus was derived as an "aetiology", to explain the place-name Gadeira that was known to classical Greeks.
Plato also says that Solon derived the king-name Atlas because the sea in that region had been called the "Atlas sea" by classical Greeks.  i.e. Critias used "aetiology" to explain the name Atlas, as an Atlantean king. 



re:  Georgeos's recent views about Atlantis

quote from:  http://www.atlantisng.com/en/faq/
According to all written primary sources that have been preserved, Atlantis was an island located right in front of Gibraltar, but on the Atlantic side, approximately in the area which extends from Iberia, Morocco, Madeira and the Canary Islands. It might have its start (that is, its Eastern border) somewhere near the coasts of Cadiz, Huelva and the Northwest of Morocco.

But its size would be –at least- similar to half Iberia, according to the dimensions specified by Plato in his narration about the Atlantic, following his penta-great uncle Solon, and according to the most ancient maps I have effectively discovered, where the island would be already depicted right in front of the strait. These maps are more than four thousand years old, they were created in Egypt (most of them) and in Carthage, but during the period of Late Antiquity, (one of them from the Bronze Age), engraved on stone and found in the Extremaduran Tartessus, North Andalusia.

Therefore, if it really existed – such as hundreds of circumstantial evidence show and also some specific evidence that I have been gathering for the last two decades – its remains should be under the sea, somewhere around that Atlantic area surrounding the coasts of Huelva, Cadiz, Madeira, Morocco and the Canary Islands. But the metropolis, that is, its concentric ring capital, with its main buildings and temples, could be somewhere closer the coasts of Huelva, Cadiz and Morocco. 

However, what is common sense (and besides it has been stated in Plato’s Timaeus and Critias) is: If Atlantis existed (as an advanced civilization or culture), it must have left important cities around, in nearby regions, that is, somewhere around Andalusia and Portugal, especially near the closer places to the Atlantic ocean, like Cadiz or Huelva, and most probably some places in the neighboring Morocco.

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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2017, 12:33:33 pm »

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re:  Georgeos's recent views about Atlantis

quote from:  http://www.atlantisng.com/en/faq/
According to all written primary sources that have been preserved, Atlantis was an island located right in front of Gibraltar, but on the Atlantic side, approximately in the area which extends from Iberia, Morocco, Madeira and the Canary Islands. It might have its start (that is, its Eastern border) somewhere near the coasts of Cadiz, Huelva and the Northwest of Morocco.

But its size would be –at least- similar to half Iberia, according to the dimensions specified by Plato in his narration about the Atlantic, following his penta-great uncle Solon, and according to the most ancient maps I have effectively discovered, where the island would be already depicted right in front of the strait. These maps are more than four thousand years old, they were created in Egypt (most of them) and in Carthage, but during the period of Late Antiquity, (one of them from the Bronze Age), engraved on stone and found in the Extremaduran Tartessus, North Andalusia.

Therefore, if it really existed – such as hundreds of circumstantial evidence show and also some specific evidence that I have been gathering for the last two decades – its remains should be under the sea, somewhere around that Atlantic area surrounding the coasts of Huelva, Cadiz, Madeira, Morocco and the Canary Islands. But the metropolis, that is, its concentric ring capital, with its main buildings and temples, could be somewhere closer the coasts of Huelva, Cadiz and Morocco.

However, what is common sense (and besides it has been stated in Plato’s Timaeus and Critias) is: If Atlantis existed (as an advanced civilization or culture), it must have left important cities around, in nearby regions, that is, somewhere around Andalusia and Portugal, especially near the closer places to the Atlantic ocean, like Cadiz or Huelva, and most probably some places in the neighboring Morocco.

This is true, my friend. But GEorgeos' views have changed over the years and many researchers use and steal his earlier work for their own. All others base their research upon that of the great Georgeos Diaz Montexano, therefore he should be credited with all theories.

Warm Greetings of Carlos
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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2017, 12:38:34 pm »

My friend, only the Georgeos know Atlante, only he do the good Atlante research. All serious scientific people follow Georgeos, all others follow snoring prophet Senor Cacye.
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« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2017, 10:09:21 am »

re: my screen name, atalante

When I first started posting on Atlantis bulletin boards (which was a long time ago), I chose my screen name atalante, to memorialize the 426 BC earthquake-and-tsunami disaster at Atalante island.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greeks/atlantis_01.shtml#three



re:  the Atlantean kings list

Critias claimed that the king-name Gadeirus/Eumelus was derived as an "aetiology", to explain the place-name Gadeira that was known to classical Greeks.
Plato also says that Solon derived the king-name Atlas because the sea in that region had been called the "Atlas sea" by classical Greeks.  i.e. Critias used "aetiology" to explain the name Atlas, as an Atlantean king. 



re:  Georgeos's recent views about Atlantis

quote from:  http://www.atlantisng.com/en/faq/
According to all written primary sources that have been preserved, Atlantis was an island located right in front of Gibraltar, but on the Atlantic side, approximately in the area which extends from Iberia, Morocco, Madeira and the Canary Islands. It might have its start (that is, its Eastern border) somewhere near the coasts of Cadiz, Huelva and the Northwest of Morocco.

But its size would be –at least- similar to half Iberia, according to the dimensions specified by Plato in his narration about the Atlantic, following his penta-great uncle Solon, and according to the most ancient maps I have effectively discovered, where the island would be already depicted right in front of the strait. These maps are more than four thousand years old, they were created in Egypt (most of them) and in Carthage, but during the period of Late Antiquity, (one of them from the Bronze Age), engraved on stone and found in the Extremaduran Tartessus, North Andalusia.

Therefore, if it really existed – such as hundreds of circumstantial evidence show and also some specific evidence that I have been gathering for the last two decades – its remains should be under the sea, somewhere around that Atlantic area surrounding the coasts of Huelva, Cadiz, Madeira, Morocco and the Canary Islands. But the metropolis, that is, its concentric ring capital, with its main buildings and temples, could be somewhere closer the coasts of Huelva, Cadiz and Morocco. 

However, what is common sense (and besides it has been stated in Plato’s Timaeus and Critias) is: If Atlantis existed (as an advanced civilization or culture), it must have left important cities around, in nearby regions, that is, somewhere around Andalusia and Portugal, especially near the closer places to the Atlantic ocean, like Cadiz or Huelva, and most probably some places in the neighboring Morocco.

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This Egyptian,INDIAN-Ocean trade-Empire was
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PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2017, 10:25:33 am »

[/b] Dear ATALANTE
I use Microsoft Word 2007-2010 either 32k or 64k
(I dont kinow
what comes out
Maybe you cannot open my Attachments because of that )
but please try 32K or 64k it might work
The zest of my'Hypothesis'is
ADONAI is lord God a  surrogate for JaHweh
but it is equally well the3City of Jerusalem( Hiero-Salim-0r Kadesh)
personified

'Proofd'
King THEIAS of Assur married his own daughter MYRRHA
2who begot a son named ADONIS
In my Hypothesis Theias is Emp.Assurnasipal-2
his daughterc is Athena bor Myrrha or Merope

ADONIS or ADONAII is the City of Aden-Port
Actually Ras ADEN-Port is short for POSEIDON-Polis or
shorter'SION'
Now still named ZIBIT-ADEN
'Meaning that in ADONAII
the Hebrews are worshipping a Sea-PORT CITY NOT A GOD

Pitty you cannot read this attachment though
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PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2017, 10:27:42 am »

I will try to upload  again
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This Egyptian,INDIAN-Ocean trade-Empire was
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PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2017, 10:32:07 am »

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This Egyptian,INDIAN-Ocean trade-Empire was
ruled by-CEO-Queen Tiy

PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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