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« on: July 09, 2016, 11:53:56 pm »

Evidence of Neanderthal cannibalism found
Posted on Saturday, 9 July, 2016


Neanderthals may have actually feasted on one another. Image Credit: Randii Oliver
Neanderthal remains unearthed in Belgium's Goyet caves show indications of cannibalistic behavior.
The prehistoric bone fragments, which have been radiocarbon-dated to between 40,000 and 45,000 years ago, are part of the largest haul of Neanderthal remains ever found north of the Alps.

Among the bones, scientists have discovered cuts and notches suggesting that the bodies had been skinned and butchered - a strong indication of cannibalistic practices.

Other evidence of Neanderthal cannibalism had been previously unearthed at El Sidrón and Zafarraya in Spain as well as at Moula-Guercy and Les Pradelles in France.

In some cases Neanderthal remains were even found to have been turned in to bone tools.

"The big differences in the behavior of these people on the one hand, and the close genetic relationship between late European Neanderthals on the other, raise many questions about the social lives and exchange between various groups," said researcher Hervé Bocherens.
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2016, 11:55:02 pm »

Neanderthal bones show signs of cannibalism


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These Neandertal bone fragments from the Troisième caverne in Belgium came from at least five individuals. Fragments marked with a star were dated 40,500 - 45,500 years old.
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Archaeologists excavating the Goyet caves in Belgium have unearthed a shocking find -- the first evidence of Neanderthal cannibalism in northern Europe.

The remains that were found were radiocarbon-dated to be about 40,500 to 45,500 years old, and it was determined that Neanderthals butchered and used the bones of their peers as tools, according to a press release from the Eberhard Karls University of Tübingen. The findings were published in the journal Scientific Reports.

The team identified 99 "uncertain" bone fragments as belonging to Neanderthals, which would make this the greatest trove of Neanderthal remains ever found north of the Alps.

The findings also shed light on the genetics of this lost human species, adding to previously collected data on Neanderthal genes.
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Various categories of human action upon the Neandertal bones of Goyet: Femur I (left) shows pits and a notch caused by striking, and femur II shows scratches indicative of butchering. Femur III has marks on it consistent with its having been used to knapp stone tools.
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Where does the cannibalism come into play? The researchers said that markings like cuts and notches on the bone fragments indicated that the bodies had been butchered by human hands. These bodies were skinned and cut up, with the bone marrow removed, the researchers said.

"These indications allow us to assume that Neanderthals practiced cannibalism," said Hervé Bocherens, one of the lead researchers from Tübingen's Senckenberg Center for Human Evolution and Palaeoenvironment.

It is unclear whether the killings were part of some sort of ceremonial ritual. Bocherens noted that the remains of horses and reindeer in Goyet were also butchered in the same way.

While this is the first evidence of Neanderthal cannibalistic behavior in northern Europe, past researchers have found signs of ancient cannibalism at El Sidrón and Zafarraya in Spain as well as at the French sites Moula-Guercy and Les Pradelles.

The researchers say it appears the human remains were used in the same way as other animals. One thigh bone and three shinbones were used to help shape stone tools used by the Neanderthal community at the site, they said.

The researchers said that the findings open up new windows of understanding into how this ancient species actually lived and interacted.

"The big differences in the behavior of these people on the one hand, and the close genetic relationship between late European Neanderthals on the other, raise many questions about the social lives and exchange between various groups," Bocherens said.

Neanderthals died out about 30,000 years ago, but before that some mated with early homo sapiens, leaving their traces in the DNA of many people living today.
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Various categories of human action upon the Neandertal bones of Goyet: Femur I (left) shows pits and a notch caused by striking, and femur II shows scratches indicative of butchering. Femur III has marks on it consistent with its having been used to knapp stone tools.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2016, 11:55:56 pm »

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2016, 11:56:28 pm »

Neanderthals were very similar to our own H. sapiens ancestors - and we know some of those sometimes engaged in cannibalistic practices, so why is it so "shocking" to learn some Neanderthals did also?
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2016, 09:37:52 pm »


It's interesting that this may possibly confirm our correspondence of Neanderthals with the meaning of Togarmah's name in Genesis 10.

Togarmah "you will break her" / "gnaw a bone"  / "rugged/bony" / "to be poured out everywhere"

http://www.allempires.com/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35946

1.0 Gomer
1.1 Ashkenaz ~ had fire?
1.2 Riphath ~ progressive Neanderthaloids of interglacial?
1.3 Togarmah ~ classic Neanderthals of ice age?
2 Magog ~ CroMagnons of maximum of last glacial?
3 Madai ~ Mesolithic?
4.0 Javan ~ neolithic farmers?
4.1 Elishah ~ Danubian &/or Western/Lake-dwelling [~ Joseph famine]?
4.2 Tarshish ~ megalithic?
4.3 Kittim
4.4 Dodanim
5 Tubal ~ copper?/Bronze/Beaker?
6 Meshech ~ Beaker/Wessex?
7 Tiras

Neanderthals had equal or larger brain size (though less developed frontal lobe) to modern, the post-cranial skeleton was indistinguishable from modern man; they could talk, had fire, took care of their sick/elderly, had religion (as suggested from burial evidence), etc. The slander was fron one old man with rickets. Creationists suggested that the skull and rickets may be fromlongevity?  A couple of years ago they suggested that Mousterian tools were in some ways more superior to Upper Palaeolithic ones. Kolosimo's 'Timeless Earth' has pictures of "Neanderthals" in modern N Africa.
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