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Dinosaurs likely didn't roar, new research suggests
Scientists say they might have growled like a crocodile or honked like a goose




By Torah Kachur, for CBC News Posted: Oct 13, 2016 4:26 PM ET Last Updated: Oct 13, 2016 5:13 PM ET
While most of us imagine dinosaurs roaring like in Jurassic World, new research involving a bird that lived 66 million years ago suggests a very different sound.

While most of us imagine dinosaurs roaring like in Jurassic World, new research involving a bird that lived 66 million years ago suggests a very different sound. (Amblin Entertainment/The Associated Press)
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Torah Kachur is the syndicated science columnist for CBC Radio One. Torah received her PhD in molecular genetics from the University of Alberta and now teaches at the University of Alberta and MacEwan University. She's the co-creator of scienceinseconds.com.

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What sound did a dinosaur make?

While you might imagine them screeching or roaring like they did in the Jurassic Park movies, scientists haven't been able to figure out the noises they actually made when they roamed the Earth.

But new research is bringing us closer to understanding how they might have sounded. As CBC Radio science columnist Torah Kachur explains, a study published in the journal Nature looks back to the age of dinosaurs to offer some insight into the evolution of the voice box.
If not terrifying roars, then what?

Think more along the lines of a crocodile or a goose.

Birds and crocodile-like reptiles are the closest living descendants we have to dinosaurs. A 2009 paper published in the journal Historical Biology looked at the different ways those animals make sound.

It pointed out that crocodiles and mammals, for that matter make sound through a vocal organ called a larynx, while birds use a syrinx.

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What is a syrinx?

It's a kind of voice box, but it's different from the larynx, which is found in many animals, including crocodiles and humans.

"Our voice box, just to kind of contextualize it, is made up of cartilaginous support structures from which there are super-squishy soft tissues, what we call vocal folds, that vibrate and produce sound," lead author Julia Clarke, a paleontologist at the University of Texas at Austin, said.
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Julia Clarke is a professor and fellow in in vertebrate paleontology at the University of Texas at Austin. (juliaclarke-paleolab.com)

If we want a sense of what that would sound like, we can look to the closest living descendents of the dinosaurs.

"Birds have essentially the same thing, in that they have cartilaginous support structures and these super-squishy vocal folds. But where their voice box is located is deep in the chest where the windpipe branches into two tubes, if you will, that go to the right and left lung."

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How do we know what dinosaurs sounded like?
Vegavis

An artist's rendition of Vegavis iaai, an ancestor of the a duck and goose that lived during the time of the dinosaurs. (Dinopedia.wikia.com)

That's where the latest research comes in. The team behind it found a fossil back in 1992 in Antarctica of Vegavis iaai, a duck and goose ancestor that lived 66 million years ago, during the time of the dinosaurs.

In 2013, they discovered this fossil has the oldest known representation of a voice box ever discovered.

From there, the team figured what sound its anatomy could make.

"The evolutionary relationships of the new species [V. iaai] and the syrinx remains themselves [told us] that this animal would have made sounds most similar to those of living ducks and geese," she said.

It's a combination of evolutionary history and anatomy that allows the researchers to determine just what the avian dinosaurs sounded like.
What does this say about the evolution of animal sounds?

There are quite a few implications from this paper.

One is that birds and non-birds evolved similar strategies to make sound, but birds had a head start of a few million years, if not more.

Second, this fossil does not represent an early stage in evolution of vocalization. In fact, the syrinx discovered was quite sophisticated in terms of anatomy, which suggests some of the more primitive iterations of it still remain to be discovered.

And finally, it tells us the sounds that dinosaurs especially the carnivorous ones made were probably very different than most carnivores today.

Our present-day predators, like lions or bears, roar when they attack, so we assume all predators did. But we should be modelling our view of dinosaurs on crocodiles and birds creatures that mostly use sound to call mates or defend territory. It's more about communication within species.

This research, as well as the whole field of dinosaur sound, is moving towards a very different view than we may have had in our imaginations.
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Julia Clarke is a professor and fellow in in vertebrate paleontology at the University of Texas at Austin. (juliaclarke-paleolab.com)
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An artist's rendition of Vegavis iaai, an ancestor of the a duck and goose that lived during the time of the dinosaurs. (Dinopedia.wikia.com)
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Dinosaurs may have sounded more like modern birds. Image Credit: CC BY-SA 3.0 Frank Vincentz
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