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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2016, 10:35:50 pm »

Definitely keep up your own line of research and sorting out (and i understand that at present it will take some time), though it would be great if you do check out our own article too sometime.
The lunar capture theory of Hoerbiger was also favoured by HS Bellamy. Interestingly possibly, Helen abduction in Trojan war could possibly be Selene the moon?? Pro-seleneoi "prelunar".  Some creationists think the mountains were pulled up not pushed up. The red moon may be pass by of mars though? (The Trojan war seems to be just before Sea Peoples, and the "sinking" of Atlantis may be about the same time (the Atlantis war was some time before the sinking)?)
(Polar shift/crust displacement is not quite same as axis tilt.)
Re Americas "beyond" Atlantis We address the distance in a chapter on that.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2016, 06:39:29 am »

Yes I understand the difference between the axial tilt and tectonic processes., will get it sorted out eventually, if I have enough time, and do plan to continue my research.. It only theory til proven and all we really know are a few hundred years.. But I do believe it all basically boils down to mass distribution and gravity.. As I said the ice would have blocked water from the north, might even have acted as a brake on the earths rotational energy (push down on a spinning ball) and increased Equatorial bulge.. So many different theories on the moon but if you look at images of mercury and Ceres there are plenty of similarities which is why I believe it was in a separate orbit.. Not sure if nibiru was the moon or nibiru may just have been what brought earth n moon orbits together..  But in a true binary pairing the center of gravity would become offset which could shift the core.. Believe the continents were pulled up into being this way, with with all the land on one side v one giant ocean on the other causing an unbalanced after.  Continental drift is just earths attempt to bring equilibrium to an unstable system.. Believe the axial tilt and its changes are what invoked skin tone responses in primitive man based on location/spectrum.. Antarctica was connected to S America (piri reis map shows this)..  Like I say tho it's all 'I believe'.. Theory until proven.. But the one that I'm sure of is that the eye was created as a symbol of Atlantis, Odin also only had one eye in Norse tradition (also Atlantis) and wore a hat pulled down over the other (mountains to the north). After that it's just a matter of figuring out how it sank.. The Atlantean war I believe was during his the last ice age when previous split of Atlantis tribes seeking military conquest set out south along the ridge colonizing Antarctica while it was tropical. Moving north  to Polynesia, S America, and S Africa when it cooled and starting a war that resulted in the seeds of humanity along the then Equatorial conflict line.. Believe the Atlantans were the builders of the henges and pyramids and we're trying to figure out what what's going on (henges) and trying to correct it (pyramids) not sure how advanced they were but if they had 100k+ years through multiple ice ages who knows.. Had volcanic heat to give them an easier figuring out metallurgy, and geothermal heat to prevent freezing And maintain their climate in the ice age.  Fertile plains are the result of crumbled mountains (remnants of atlas + Appalachian) eroded by ice melt flooding, earthquakes etc.. Migration patterns of early man make more sense w/ Atlantis especially Clovis points in N America and Spain, and Rh- blood type.  It's such a broad range of subject, just trying to put it all together..

Again thank you all for your time and thoughts
-Nick
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2016, 06:52:54 am »

Incidentally, this would also this would explain your S American Atlantis theory, the earlier split to the south created those ancient sites, when those nazca peoples recombined with fleeing atlanteans it formed the maya.. Which is why they have serpents and pyramids in their history.  Speaking of Mayan myths I believe the previous mud of men and men of wood were these two civilizations..atlantean(north, peaceful + scientific) and lemurian(south, tribal + warlike). Both destroyed with floods

The answers are spread thru all of early mans religious stories of creation, just a matter of piecing together the puzzle with multiple pictures from multiple sources that fit a larger pattern
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2016, 10:35:08 am »


(You are in good company (Jesus was a "carpenter" too).)
You have some good quality ideas/info/ability from what you posted. But I have to disagree about Atlantis site though.

There are some continental finds in Atlantic (sand/beaches) and in Caribean (rocks) (tachylite) but Mid-Atlantic is gong up and out not down and in. The is no large enough land mass & plain & mountains in Atlantic (orthodox geology, & Hancock). "We are not looking for a needle in a haystack" (Hancock('s research assistant)).


Moreover, Atlantis has positively been found in South America & Tiahuanaco (though people still refuse to read our evidence and accept the stark evidences/matches) :
The mountains are the Andes.
The plain is the ~"Altiplano" onsouth side of kae Titicaca around Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku (it is also shown in Inca picture from Coricancha).
America faced south in previous pole position (ref FlemAth).
Atlantis city is Tiahuanaco, the hill dwelling of Clito (& Poseidon) is Akapana (both shown in Coricancha picture too). Atlas pillar rising from concentric circles city in Peruvian picture.
Distance from City to sea = distance from Tiahuanaco/Akapan to Titicaca then.
The date is not totally literal, but fits Tiahuanaco claimed dates either/both ways anyway.
The "sinking" was land/water went sideways either/both pole shift/crust displacement &/or continental shift (cf supervolcanoes) (evidences that Andes were pushed up higher in lifetime of humans & civilisation) (geology does work that way despite orthodox claiming it doesn't) (the English translations are not the best).
Egyptian Urani/Amenti/Aaru may match America. (circles in Menes tomb labels in Waddell.) [Djehewty/Thoth = Japheth/Diphath.]
Azores statue pointed west with Quechua words cati/cates "this way".
Azores stede citades 2 colours lakes recall Titicaca lakes & 7 cities.
The massive island is (South) America.
Atlantis war and  "sinking" was during dynastic [sometime between 12th dyn and 19th/20th dyn?] (**** & tobacco in NK mummies, Sea Peoples). [2nd Hermes Shu & 2nd god Hercules were middle kingdom.]

links
http://lifetradition.webs.com/atlantis.htm
or http://iwillnotbeassimilated.blogspot.co.nz/p/blog-page.html
http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1037594
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36133
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8257
historum.com/speculative.../65938-atlantis-not-speculative-history-17.ht
http://picasaweb.google.com/seanbam2/Antipodean

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I am sorry, but you are incorrect about tiahuancu being Atlantis. It as built by Viracoacha and his followers when they arrived from their homeland after a great cataclysm.
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2016, 10:45:00 am »

Plus it is not an island.
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2016, 10:19:13 pm »

Finally got finished typing everything up over the weekend and have 3 new lengthy posts, think I have it drawn out pretty well, the reason for the sinking and all are on there now
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