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« on: May 14, 2016, 07:13:57 pm »

Lost Nessie movie prop found in Loch Ness
Posted on Wednesday, 13 April, 2016




The loch has been used as a backdrop in numerous movies. Image Credit: CC BY-SA 2.0 Ian Stewart
A large model monster used in an old Sherlock Holmes movie has been identified at the bottom of the loch.
When Norwegian company Kongsberg Maritime sent a robot in to loch ness in an attempt to locate evidence of the Loch Ness Monster, the last thing they expected to find was a 30ft model of it.

Discovered using high tech sonar equipment, the fascimile of the world's best known lake monster had featured in the 1969 film The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes which starred Sir Robert Stephens as the titular detective and Sir Christopher Lee as his brother Mycroft Holmes.

The model itself was built by special effects artist Wally Veevers who had worked on numerous movies including Stanley Kubrick's science fiction classic 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    "Nessie" found in Loch Ness almost 50 years after the Sherlock Holmes movie prop was lost https://t.co/msDwomYAM5 pic.twitter.com/domw5pwR9H
    BBC Highlands (@BBCHighlands) April 13, 2016


"We have found a monster, but not the one many people might have expected," said marine biologist and veteran Loch Ness Monster researcher Adrian Shine.

"The model was built with a neck and two humps and taken alongside a pier for filming of portions of the film in 1969. The director did not want the humps and asked that they be removed, despite warnings I suspect from the rest of the production that this would affect its buoyancy."

"And the inevitable happened. The model sank."

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2016, 07:16:04 pm »

Film's lost Nessie monster prop found in Loch Ness
By Steven McKenzie BBC Scotland Highlands and Islands reporter

    13 April 2016
    From the section Highlands & Islands





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Image caption A still from the movie showing the new prop made following the loss of the 30ft version

A 30ft (9m) model of the Loch Ness Monster built in 1969 for a Sherlock Holmes movie has been found almost 50 years after it sank in the loch.

The beast was created for the Billy Wilder-directed The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes, starring Sir Robert Stephens and Sir Christopher Lee.

It has been seen for the first time in images captured by an underwater robot.

Loch Ness expert Adrian Shine said the shape, measurements and location pointed to the object being the prop.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2016, 07:17:15 pm »

The robot, operated by Norwegian company Kongsberg Maritime, is being used to investigate what lies in the depths of Loch Ness.

VisitScotland and Mr Shine's The Loch Ness Project, which gathers scientific information on the loch's ecology and the potential for a monster, is supporting the survey.

Mr Shine told the BBC News Scotland website: "We have found a monster, but not the one many people might have expected.

"The model was built with a neck and two humps and taken alongside a pier for filming of portions of the film in 1969.

"The director did not want the humps and asked that they be removed, despite warnings I suspect from the rest of the production that this would affect its buoyancy.

"And the inevitable happened. The model sank."
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2016, 07:19:56 pm »

Mr Shine added: "We can confidently say that this is the model because of where it was found, the shape - there is the neck and no humps - and from the measurements."

The model was floated out to a place in the loch where only a few months earlier claims of sighting of Nessie had been made.
The strange case of the lost Nessie prop
Image caption Sir Christopher Lee starred in the film

The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes was made in the US and UK in 1969 and released in cinemas in 1970.

It was directed by Billy Wilder, a famous figure of Hollywood's "golden age" whose long catalogue of features included Some Like It Hot starring Marilyn Monroe.

The Sherlock film tells of the detective investigating the disappearance of an engineer. The case takes him to Loch Ness and an encounter with a monster.

Sir Robert Stephens played Holmes, Colin Blakely was Dr Watson and Sir Christopher Lee was the sleuth's brother, Mycroft Holmes.

Talented special effects artist Wally Veevers, whose other work included 2001: A Space Odyssey, Superman and Local Hero, led the building of the 30ft-long Loch Ness Monster.

It sank while being towed behind a boat.

Wilder is said to have comforted Veevers after watching his creation disappear beneath the waves.

The director, who had also been dogged with problems lighting scenes at Loch Ness, had a new monster made - but just its head and neck - and moved the filming to a large water tank in a film studio.

Kongsberg's torpedo-shaped Munin drone is equipped with sonar imaging and has already made several sweeps of the loch's bottom.

Among other material the drone has already detected have been the wreck of an unidentified sunken boat.

However, measurements made using the device dispute a claim made in January of a new deepest point in the loch.

A tour boat skipper Keith Stewart recorded a depth of 889ft (270.9m) on sonar equipment he uses.

The official maximum depth, which still remains in place, is 754ft (229.8m).
Image caption Kongsberg's robot Munin
Image caption An image of the sunken boat found during the survey
Image caption The latest survey challenges a recording of a new deepest point in the loch

Kongsberg's survey work forms part of Mr Shine's ongoing called Operation Groundtruth,

Malcolm Roughead, chief executive of VisitScotland, added: "No two areas around or on the water feel the same - whether it is a sense of awe at the beauty of the scenery or a feeling of anticipation at what might surface from below the waters.

"We are excited to see the findings from this in-depth survey by Kongsberg, but no matter how state-of-the-art the equipment is, and no matter what it may reveal, there will always be a sense of mystery and the unknown around what really lies beneath Loch Ness."
Image caption The survey work continues with the drone
Mr Shine added: "We can confidently say that this is the model because of where it was found, the shape - there is the neck and no humps - and from the measurements."

The model was floated out to a place in the loch where only a few months earlier claims of sighting of Nessie had been made.
The strange case of the lost Nessie prop
Image caption Sir Christopher Lee starred in the film

The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes was made in the US and UK in 1969 and released in cinemas in 1970.

It was directed by Billy Wilder, a famous figure of Hollywood's "golden age" whose long catalogue of features included Some Like It Hot starring Marilyn Monroe.

The Sherlock film tells of the detective investigating the disappearance of an engineer. The case takes him to Loch Ness and an encounter with a monster.

Sir Robert Stephens played Holmes, Colin Blakely was Dr Watson and Sir Christopher Lee was the sleuth's brother, Mycroft Holmes.

Talented special effects artist Wally Veevers, whose other work included 2001: A Space Odyssey, Superman and Local Hero, led the building of the 30ft-long Loch Ness Monster.

It sank while being towed behind a boat.

Wilder is said to have comforted Veevers after watching his creation disappear beneath the waves.

The director, who had also been dogged with problems lighting scenes at Loch Ness, had a new monster made - but just its head and neck - and moved the filming to a large water tank in a film studio.

Kongsberg's torpedo-shaped Munin drone is equipped with sonar imaging and has already made several sweeps of the loch's bottom.

Among other material the drone has already detected have been the wreck of an unidentified sunken boat.

However, measurements made using the device dispute a claim made in January of a new deepest point in the loch.

A tour boat skipper Keith Stewart recorded a depth of 889ft (270.9m) on sonar equipment he uses.

The official maximum depth, which still remains in place, is 754ft (229.8m).
Image caption Kongsberg's robot Munin
Image caption An image of the sunken boat found during the survey
Image caption The latest survey challenges a recording of a new deepest point in the loch

Kongsberg's survey work forms part of Mr Shine's ongoing called Operation Groundtruth,

Malcolm Roughead, chief executive of VisitScotland, added: "No two areas around or on the water feel the same - whether it is a sense of awe at the beauty of the scenery or a feeling of anticipation at what might surface from below the waters.

"We are excited to see the findings from this in-depth survey by Kongsberg, but no matter how state-of-the-art the equipment is, and no matter what it may reveal, there will always be a sense of mystery and the unknown around what really lies beneath Loch Ness."
Image caption The survey work continues with the drone
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2016, 07:20:25 pm »

Mr Shine added: "We can confidently say that this is the model because of where it was found, the shape - there is the neck and no humps - and from the measurements."

The model was floated out to a place in the loch where only a few months earlier claims of sighting of Nessie had been made.
The strange case of the lost Nessie prop
Image caption Sir Christopher Lee starred in the film

The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes was made in the US and UK in 1969 and released in cinemas in 1970.

It was directed by Billy Wilder, a famous figure of Hollywood's "golden age" whose long catalogue of features included Some Like It Hot starring Marilyn Monroe.

The Sherlock film tells of the detective investigating the disappearance of an engineer. The case takes him to Loch Ness and an encounter with a monster.

Sir Robert Stephens played Holmes, Colin Blakely was Dr Watson and Sir Christopher Lee was the sleuth's brother, Mycroft Holmes.

Talented special effects artist Wally Veevers, whose other work included 2001: A Space Odyssey, Superman and Local Hero, led the building of the 30ft-long Loch Ness Monster.

It sank while being towed behind a boat.

Wilder is said to have comforted Veevers after watching his creation disappear beneath the waves.

The director, who had also been dogged with problems lighting scenes at Loch Ness, had a new monster made - but just its head and neck - and moved the filming to a large water tank in a film studio.

Kongsberg's torpedo-shaped Munin drone is equipped with sonar imaging and has already made several sweeps of the loch's bottom.

Among other material the drone has already detected have been the wreck of an unidentified sunken boat.

However, measurements made using the device dispute a claim made in January of a new deepest point in the loch.

A tour boat skipper Keith Stewart recorded a depth of 889ft (270.9m) on sonar equipment he uses.

The official maximum depth, which still remains in place, is 754ft (229.8m).
Image caption Kongsberg's robot Munin
Image caption An image of the sunken boat found during the survey
Image caption The latest survey challenges a recording of a new deepest point in the loch

Kongsberg's survey work forms part of Mr Shine's ongoing called Operation Groundtruth,

Malcolm Roughead, chief executive of VisitScotland, added: "No two areas around or on the water feel the same - whether it is a sense of awe at the beauty of the scenery or a feeling of anticipation at what might surface from below the waters.

"We are excited to see the findings from this in-depth survey by Kongsberg, but no matter how state-of-the-art the equipment is, and no matter what it may reveal, there will always be a sense of mystery and the unknown around what really lies beneath Loch Ness."
Image caption The survey work continues with the drone
Mr Shine added: "We can confidently say that this is the model because of where it was found, the shape - there is the neck and no humps - and from the measurements."

The model was floated out to a place in the loch where only a few months earlier claims of sighting of Nessie had been made.
The strange case of the lost Nessie prop
Image caption Sir Christopher Lee starred in the film

The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes was made in the US and UK in 1969 and released in cinemas in 1970.

It was directed by Billy Wilder, a famous figure of Hollywood's "golden age" whose long catalogue of features included Some Like It Hot starring Marilyn Monroe.

The Sherlock film tells of the detective investigating the disappearance of an engineer. The case takes him to Loch Ness and an encounter with a monster.

Sir Robert Stephens played Holmes, Colin Blakely was Dr Watson and Sir Christopher Lee was the sleuth's brother, Mycroft Holmes.

Talented special effects artist Wally Veevers, whose other work included 2001: A Space Odyssey, Superman and Local Hero, led the building of the 30ft-long Loch Ness Monster.

It sank while being towed behind a boat.

Wilder is said to have comforted Veevers after watching his creation disappear beneath the waves.

The director, who had also been dogged with problems lighting scenes at Loch Ness, had a new monster made - but just its head and neck - and moved the filming to a large water tank in a film studio.

Kongsberg's torpedo-shaped Munin drone is equipped with sonar imaging and has already made several sweeps of the loch's bottom.

Among other material the drone has already detected have been the wreck of an unidentified sunken boat.

However, measurements made using the device dispute a claim made in January of a new deepest point in the loch.

A tour boat skipper Keith Stewart recorded a depth of 889ft (270.9m) on sonar equipment he uses.

The official maximum depth, which still remains in place, is 754ft (229.8m).
Image caption Kongsberg's robot Munin
Image caption An image of the sunken boat found during the survey
Image caption The latest survey challenges a recording of a new deepest point in the loch

Kongsberg's survey work forms part of Mr Shine's ongoing called Operation Groundtruth,

Malcolm Roughead, chief executive of VisitScotland, added: "No two areas around or on the water feel the same - whether it is a sense of awe at the beauty of the scenery or a feeling of anticipation at what might surface from below the waters.

"We are excited to see the findings from this in-depth survey by Kongsberg, but no matter how state-of-the-art the equipment is, and no matter what it may reveal, there will always be a sense of mystery and the unknown around what really lies beneath Loch Ness."
Image caption The survey work continues with the drone
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2016, 07:22:24 pm »




Kongsberg Maritime
Image caption An underwater robot detected the Nessie model during a survey of parts of Loch Ness
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Kongsberg Maritime
Image caption Another of Kongsberg Maritime's images of the lost Nessie model
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2016, 07:26:03 pm »



Kongsberg Maritime
Image caption A computer generated image of the film prop based on the scan made by the drone
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2016, 07:26:36 pm »




Sir Christopher Lee starred in the film
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2016, 07:27:18 pm »




Kongsberg Maritime
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Konsberg Maritime/VisitScotland
Image caption An image of the sunken boat found during the survey
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The latest survey challenges a recording of a new deepest point in the loch
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2016, 07:29:47 pm »



Kongsberg Maritime
Image caption The survey work continues with the drone

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-36024638
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2016, 11:54:41 pm »

I think it's an interesting find. It might well be an 'unimportant' movie prop, but the fact it's been down there undetected since 1969 is quite impressive.
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