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« on: October 27, 2015, 02:14:52 am »


'We know where Jack the Ripper lived' - experts

Experts believe the Victorian serial killer Jack the Ripper lived in Flower and Dean Street in London’s notorious East End



A street near Whitechapel
A street near Whitechapel: the latest crime of Jack the Ripper Photo: Mary Evans Picture Library/Alamy
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By Sarah Knapton, Science Correspondent

11:49AM BST 06 Jun 2014

It is a mystery that has eluded detectives for more than a century, but criminologists now believe they know where Jack the Ripper lived.

By using the latest geographical profiling techniques based on the locations of the Ripper’s five victims, experts believe the Victorian serial killer lived in Flower and Dean Street in London’s notorious East End.

The street was so infamous it was known as ‘the wicked quarter mile’ and was a festering slum of brothels, opium dens and doss houses.

Flower and Dean Street, which lay just off Brick Lane in Whitechapel, no longer exists after being bombed in the Second World War.

But it was mentioned in the original Ripper police reports as the ‘the foulest, most dangerous street in the whole metropolis.’ Papers from the time show that detectives also believed that it was a likely location for the Ripper.
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Canadian criminologist Dr Kim Rossmo and Steve Le Comber of Queen Mary, University of London, used a mathematical model to find the location.

Speaking at the Cheltenham Science Festival Dr Rossmo said: “All the victims lived very close to Flower and Dean Street.

“The last victim was seen less than a block away picking up a customer, and that was probably her last customer, probably the Ripper.

“So it is safe to say it was none of the Royal family as people have speculated. It is unlikely they would have frequented an area like that, and we think the Ripper is someone who lived on that street.”

Two victims Catherine Eddowes and Elizabeth Stride were killed on the same night, September 30 1888.

Eddowes apron was discovered in nearby Goulston Street alongside a message, believed to be written by the Ripper which read: “The Juews are not the men that will not be blamed for nothing.”

Dr Rossmo claims that if a line is drawn between the location of the victim’s bodies and he apron it suggests the Ripper was heading towards Flower and Dean Street.

“It looks like he was on his way home,” said Dr Le Comber.

The technique works because most criminals operate in predictable locations, usually not too far from their home, family or their workplace. But they also set up a ‘buffer zone’ around their homes where they will not commit crimes. The model predicts where they live

It previously been used to track down the serial rapist Clive Barwell and is being employed by anti-terrorist police.

Dr Le Comber also believes the formula can be used to find the origin of disease outbreaks such as malaria, so that epidemics can be stopped before they even started.

He believes that the origin of an infectious disease could be located with the addresses of just five people who have been infected.

It follows on from the work of John Snow, who in 1844 mapped all cases of cholera in central London and discovered the source was a water pump in Broad Street, Soho. When he closed the pump, people stopped dying.

“Snow’s genius was to map it,” said Dr Le Comber, “Nobody has taken that approach with diseases since then.

“In Malaria paper after paper will tell you important it is to find where the infected mosquitoes are breeding, but nobody will tell you how to find those areas.

“And the problem with mosquitoes is they will breed anywhere. In puddles, in water in abandoned car tyres. So this is exactly the problem we are trying to solve.

“We can use this technique in quite a lot of biological data and hopefully use it in the future to benefit public health.”

Dr Le Comber used the model to prove that he could have spotted the origin of a devastating malaria outbreak in Cairo.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 02:15:33 am »

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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2016, 11:14:24 am »

My own findings and theory (in ca 2013?) was that JTR was Mary Jane Kelly, and JTR lived in MJK's place. I wrote this in my blog article here

"JTR letter said “from Hell”. Compare “Whitechapel was considered to be the most notorious criminal rookery in London. The area around Flower and Dean Street was described as “perhaps the foulest and most dangerous street in the whole metropolis”; Dorset Street was called “the worst street in London”. JTR must have been in Whitechapel area. MJK was in Dorset Street."

"she [MJK] was in whitechapel."

"some forum poster/s said JTR must’ve been in or familiar with Spitalfields (which is where MJK was).
“All the identified victims lived in the heart of the rookery in Spitalfields, including three in George Street (later named Lolesworth Street), two in Dorset Street, two in Flower and Dean Street and one in Thrawl Street.” MJK was in Dorset street, Spitalfields."

“Sickert stayed in a room that JTR said to have once stayed in”?

" “The murders drew attention to the poor living conditions in the East End slums….” May indicate that JTR was in whitechapel , and that was a prostitute?) "

http://2rbetterthan1.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/jack-the-ripper-candidates/

(I am not sure if they stole my discovery or not. My blog post says 2013 but i can't remember if/when i might have abit later updated/edited it with my then new(er) JTR/MJK info? However some one else had already proposed MJK before my discovery though i came up with mine totally independently.)

Since then there was that news item claiming that JTR is Kosminsky because of the shawl dna test. But i am fairly sure it was MJK not Kosminsky, though i could be wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2016, 03:40:07 pm »

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My own findings and theory (in ca 2013?) was that JTR was Mary Jane Kelly,

Are you saying that the Ripper was a woman? 

I believe him to have been James Kelly, a murderer (who killed with a knife) who escaped from Brodhead shortly before the Ripper spree began. He escaped to America shortly after the spree ended, where similar murders happened. Yes, the Ripper might have killed in America.

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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2016, 10:36:17 am »

Thank-you Keira.

Yes my conclusion & theory is that JTR was MJK who was a woman. This is not any misogynist thought/feeling though! AC Doyle had a theory like that too. I could be wrong but i feel pretty certain/sure that it is right.

I will have to re-familiarise myself with JTR and James Kelly and look at/into your extra info before i can give my own opinion.  But if i remember correctly James Kelly is the same person who i also once had as prime suspect for awhile. He was the one in the asylum for some time? I just couldn't see he could have done it for various reasons though (perhaps i should have written them, but there are too many suspects to write for all of them). James Kelly does have the JK in JacK, but so does (Mary) Jane Kelly, and so does JK Stephen who was JC Cooper's prime suspect.

It was reading all the 200 pages court notes that i changed my views/ideas. I couldn't find any sense until got to the last canonical victim MJK when it all came together. I gave my reasons in that blog post.

Prior to MJK one suspect i had for awhile was Robert Louis Stevenson

Apparently my blog post was modified sometime between 7/16/2013 and 9/19/2014 / 5/10/2014, because the blog post name is not same as the address/link words.
So it is possible that i had actually seen this page, and that their evidence (6 Jun 2014) helped my thesis, though i thought i got the info on that part of whitechapel from wikipedia. Though it was still an independent discovery solely from reading the court notes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_the_Ripper_suspects
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34982
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2016, 11:42:02 pm »

I have a hard time believing the Ripper could have been a woman. Not only do the sketches in the paper all resemble a man, most women lack the strength and savagery to carry such crimes out. Most female murderers are poisoners (incidentally, several favorite male Ripper suspects were poisoners, too, hard to see them making a leap to this kind of murder with a knife). They weren't just murders, but overpowering murders.  Famous people...well, regardless of which ones they were, a murderer would have to move in Whitechappel unnoticed, all that much harder to do if one is widely known.

He would have to have been some one average looking, anonymous.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2016, 11:46:48 pm »

About James Kelly:



James Kelly (20 April 1860 – 17 September 1929) was first identified as a suspect in Terence Sharkey's "Jack the Ripper. 100 Years of Investigation" (Ward Lock 1987) and documented in Prisoner 1167: The madman who was Jack the Ripper, by Jim Tully, in 1997.[95]

James Kelly murdered his wife in 1883 by stabbing her in the neck. Deemed insane, he was committed to the Broadmoor Asylum, from which he later escaped in early 1888, using a key he fashioned himself. After the last of the five canonical Ripper murders in London in November 1888, the police searched for Kelly at what had been his residence prior his wife's murder, but they were not able to locate him. In 1927, almost forty years after his escape, he unexpectedly turned himself in to officials at the Broadmoor Asylum. He died two years later, presumably of natural causes.

Retired NYPD cold-case detective Ed Norris examined the Jack the Ripper case for a Discovery Channel program called "Jack the Ripper in America". In it, Norris claims that James Kelly was Jack the Ripper, and that he was also responsible for multiple murders in cities around the United States. Norris highlights a few features of the Kelly story to support his contention. He worked as a furniture upholsterer, a job that requires strong handiness with a large knife. His escape from Broadmoor before the first of the five canonical murders and eventual escape to America after the last meant Kelly was in or around London at the right time. He also claimed to have resided in the United States and left behind a journal that spoke of his strong disapproval of the immorality of prostitutes and of his having been on the "warpath" during his time as a fugitive. Norris further argues Kelly was in New York at the time of a Ripper-like murder of a prostitute named Carrie Brown as well as in a number of cities while each experienced, according to Norris, one or two brutal murders of prostitutes while Kelly was there. Norris reported Kelly's Broadmoor Asylum file from before his escape and his eventual return has never been opened since 1927 until Norris was given special permission for access to it, and that the file is the perfect profile match for Jack the Ripper.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2016, 11:47:27 pm »

How Did James Kelly Kill His Wife


In 1991 I purchased the documents where I got the story of James Kelly killing his wife in a brutal matter as described instead of just cutting her throat as is widely reported as being the story. Supposedly the documents I purchased at a London Street Market were the property of a police officer during the time of Jack the Ripper. It was told to me that the journal I purchased was the policeman's private notes about the Ripper murders.

It is a well known fact that at the time of the murder of his wife that murders were often cleaned up as far as to details to keep the more brutal details out of the London Press. It is said that this was done on orders of the Police Superintendent Thomas Arnold. It is a historical fact that the message written on a alley wall was quickly washed away on Arnold's orders and we will never truly know what that message said. Why was it washed away so quickly? What did it reveal? What did Arnold cover up by having the message quickly washed away?

The picture above of James Kelly and wife was in the papers but I do not know if the woman in the photo was the wife he killed. In the papers I purchased written on the back of that photo it said , " James Kelly and Wife ".


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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2016, 11:49:59 pm »

Last year, I devoted a whole thread to this if you're interested:

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,34043.0.html

Having said that, the trail has grown so cold i would be hard for anyone to ascertain the exact truth.
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Well i could be wrong but i don't think so yet. Unfortunately I don't really have the time and health and situation to re-research and post the pros and cons for James Kelly. From what i recall the strength and savagery and pverpowering may be somewhat negated by if it was a woman, and not all the canonical cases necessarily require strength. (Incidentally some feminist works give examples of the Dionysian women overpowering men.) Unnoticed and "average"/"anonymous" also can fit a woman. I have heard of aqua tofana re women. (I wonder if the water fluoridationist poisoners are "women" (or Babylon of Revelation) then....) I'm not sure about the sketches in the paper, i can't remember what i read/saw about them, possibly i thought that they were just imagined by artist but from what you write it sounds like they may have been from "witnesses". Anyone that looks at JTR or any other mystery has to consider all candidates (though it may not be possible to write disproofs against so many rival theories), and anyone that looks at JTR has to read the 200 pages canonical court cases (which i think i found via the casebook forum?)

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James Kelly pros
- initials JK can be JacK.
- escaped just before canonical murders.
- supposedly escaped to America after the last canonical murder.
- first identified in 1987 almost exactly 100 yrs after 1888. Missing MJK case papers returned in 1987.
- police searched his last known residence in Nov 88 after the last of the canonical murders.
- "killed his wife in brutal manner" with a knife "cutting her throat"
- males rather than females have strength & savagery & overpower.
- he had been a furniture upholsterer which entails strength and large knife.
- he supposedly wrote of his disapproval of prostitutes.
- he supposedly wrote he was on "warpath"
- clever escaping with a self-made key.
- was "insane"/"madman" in an asylum.

James Kelly pro or con:
- it seems suspicious coincidence to me that James Kelly and Mary Jane Kelly and Jane Kelly and John Kelly and Mary Ann Kelly have same surname.
- why did the police say the vigilance group’s services were no longer required after the MJK murder, and they removed the extra police at/about same time too (“the great hush after MJK”)?  (They didn't know JK had supposedly gone to USA? They searched his last known residence after the last canonical murder and didn't find him or know where he was.) (I have to check the dates of the former, the latter was Nov 88.)

James Kelly cons or questions:
- "the trail has grown so cold" "hard for anyone to ascertain the exact truth".
- why is he only a modern suspect and not a suspect at the time? (Though it does say they searched his last known residence after the last murder.)
- what is the evidence that he escaped from UK to USA after the last murder? and the journal that claims he resided in USA? and then came back to London before turning himself back in in 1927? How did he get there and back unnoticed?
- does the hand writing & fingerprints & language/psychology of the "James Kelly" journal match the JTR letters & wall writing handwriting?
- *stabbed* with a knife in neck is not same as the JTR victims?
- The "JTR *might* have killed in America": American murders abit different from my vague memory? And they are not in the "canonicial murders".
- the American court case said JTR was still in London.
- the documents sound abit possibly spurious/dubious origins. "Supposedly the documents i purchased...."
- "i do not know if the woman in the photo was the wife he killed" sounds pretty weak to me.
- why no other murders in UK between 1888 & 1927?
- why wasn't he treated worse when he turned himself back in to the asylum?
- can he be proven to live in the Flower & Dean streets "hell" area of London?
- I don't see evidence that Sickert knew and stayed in the same room as "JTR" "~ James Kelly"?
- the "cleaned up" and "as is widely reported" secrecy theory doesn't seem convincing to me, i don't see any reason why except "to keep the more butal details" from people.
- i don't see what James Kelly has to do with Juwes?
- i will have to re-read the JTR  letters to re-see what pros/cons for JK.
- they are just picking on "insane"/"madman" people. JTR doesn't have to have been classically insane/mad?
- why hasn't anyone else like Police confirmed it?
- his picture doesn't look/feel like JTR to me.
- the Puck poster picture looked woman-like to me not like a man?
- did James Kelly have (women's) anatomical knowledge?
(- NYP, USA fluoridates it water which effects peoples abilities.)
- his asylum papers haven't been released yet.
- All our evidences for MJK. (Or others claimed evidence for Kosminsky.)
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2016, 02:09:51 am »

No need to re-research everything, it's been close to 120 years, I expect the trail is cold for just about everyone. I'm not ruling out a woman, I just think the odds would be against it. Equally, the press' favorite suspects, like Kominiski, well, yes he was insane, but, as far as I know, had no history of violence. Walter Sickert? He painted some disturbing imagery, but there was nothing in his background to suggest an actual killer. Tumblety was a homosexual, it doesn't mean he was a murderer. Maybrick: a great diary, too bad it was a forgery. The prince had an alibi and Gull (TV's favorite subject) was recovering from a stroke at the time. Most of the other favorite Ripper suspects were just poisoners.
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James Kelly cons or questions:

- why is he only a modern suspect and not a suspect at the time? (Though it does say they searched his last known residence after the last murder.)

Well, he was a suspect, early and later on in the investigation. Kelly was once considered a suspect by London police, but after only minimal checking at his old residence, they simply gave up, and were never able to find him. With the huge amount of pressure they were under, the case against Kelly went cold…

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- what is the evidence that he escaped from UK to USA after the last murder? and the journal that claims he resided in USA? and then came back to London before turning himself back in in 1927? How did he get there and back unnoticed?

 In Britain’s National Maritime Museum, they keep track of every ship that came to the United States. Kelly said he traveled to America aboard an Anglo-German steamer named the Zaandam that sailed from Rotterdam to New York. At the museum, the ship is confirmed, also that it sailed from Rotterdam to New York on October 7, 1890—two years after the last Ripper murder in London (11/88) and months before the April 23, 1891 murder of Carrie Brown in New York. You might be thinking, “How does a ‘wanted man’ get into the United States without detection?” Professor Dan Citrum is an expert in 19th-century immigration and explains how easily it could have been done. Remember this was before Ellis Island was established, so getting in and out of the country was very easy. No drivers licenses, no passports, and no photo id whatsoever.


Richard Jones, owner of Ripper Walking Tours and author of Uncovering Jack the Ripper’s London. Jones has spent more than two decades investigating the Whitechapel murders. Jones was asked if any of the serious Ripper suspects had ever traveled to the United States after the death of Mary Kelly. Jones provided him with three names: Severin Klosowski, Francis Tumblety, and James Kelly.


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- does the hand writing & fingerprints & language/psychology of the "James Kelly" journal match the JTR letters & wall writing handwriting?


I haven't been able to find Kelly's handwriting sample. Once his Broadmoor file was opened, the profile was said to be a perfect match for Jack the Ripper.

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- *stabbed* with a knife in neck is not same as the JTR victims?

Well, that was his first kill, most serial killers get more brutal in time. Kelly wrote of his hatred for prostitutes, state they gave him STDs.


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- The "JTR *might* have killed in America": American murders abit different from my vague memory? And they are not in the "canonicial murders".

There are actually twelve non-canonical victims besides Carrie Brown, four of which were killed before August 31. Why arbitrarily choose three?
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- the American court case said JTR was still in London.

How would they know since the killings had stopped?


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- why no other murders in UK between 1888 & 1927?


The killer actually wrote to the NYPD, before the murder of Carry Brown. His letter is recreated below:

    Capt. Ryan,

    You think that “Jack the Ripper” is in England, but he is not, I am right here and I expect to kill somebody by Thursday next, and so get ready for me with your pistols, but I have a knife that has done more than your pistols. Next thing you will hear of some woman dead.

    Yours truly,

    Jack the Ripper


Did Jack The Ripper Come To New York And Commit Brutal Murders There In 1891


On the morning of April 24th 1891 a woman's body was discovered in a cheap hotel in New York City. The then Chief Inspector of the New York City Thomas Byrnes had said many times in the newspapers that if Jack the Ripper ever showed up in New York he would be caught in just a few days. The woman's body that was found on that April morning had been murdered in a most vicious manner. Her stomach had been cut open and her intestines were thrown around over the bed. And most shocking of all was the fact that some of her female organs were gone. Scrawled on the wall was a message in blood written to Chief Inspector Byrnes. It said " Okay catch me Boss " New York City went into a panic and the newspapers reported that Jack the Ripper had arrived in America.The murdered woman had been a prostitute and she had been seen going to her motel room with a male client at about 10.30 the night before she was found murdered the next morning. People remembered the prostitute was drunk and giggling and the man with her as silent and grim. It was reported the man carried a case much like doctors of the time carried.

Almost at once the New York newspapers had a great time at the expense of Inspector Byrnes pointing out that Byrnes had said he could catch the Ripper in a day or two if he ever made the mistake of showing up in New York City. And though the details of the murdered woman on that April morning were never disclosed to anyone other than that note written in blood on the wall it leaked out quickly that their were many similarities between the woman's murder in New York City and the London White-chapel murders known to have been committed by Jack the Ripper.

Inspectors From Scotland Yard Came To New York City


It is a historical fact that members of London's Scotland Yard came to New York City at least twice in 1891 to examine evidence and a letter the New York Police had to see if they could connect the murders in New York City to the Jack The Ripper murders in London. So they must have thought it was quite possible that Jack The Ripper had traveled to New York City and committed murders in New York City.

Three More Murders In Eleven Days


Over the course of the next eleven days three more brutal murders took place in New York City all with in a few miles of the first murder that took place on April 24th 1891. In all three cases prostitutes were attacked and ripped apart in a brutal fashion. And in all three cases female body parts were cut out of the bodies and taken away. But then the murders stopped. Why? There have been rumors for many years that New York's Chief Police Inspector received a package with a bloody body part in it and a taunting letter saying that Jack the Ripper was moving on to another city because he now knew that Inspector Byrnes was incapable of catching him.

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- why wasn't he treated worse when he turned himself back in to the asylum?

Well, he died two years after returning to Broadmoor, so he probably wasn't  treated too well.

In January of 1888, Kelly escaped and just disappeared. At that time a series of stabbings and slashing attacks of women start in London. Three victims: Annie Millwood, (February 25, 1888, stabbed repeatedly, but survived), Ada Wilson, (March 28, 1888, slashed in the throat, but survived), and Martha Tabram, (August 7, 1888, stabbed 23 times, did not survive).



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- why hasn't anyone else like Police confirmed it?

Have they confirmed anyone?

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- his picture doesn't look/feel like JTR to me.






1888 witness descriptions of Jack the Ripper (presumably drawn by a different forensic artist), the one above is of a young James Kelly. Any two imaginary portraits will look similar if you add a big mustache and a floppy hat.


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- did James Kelly have (women's) anatomical knowledge?

Well, he didn't have to be a doctor, he does have:

 -The expert use of a blade. (yes anyone can cut, but to have strength combined with the precision to cut fast and accurate.)
    -A stesser. His disease combined with the marital problems. For someone with a known past of being "...obviously not right in the head." according to his boss, these stressers resulted in the used of a knife on his wife instead of a piece of furniture. Possibly feeling a sense of relief, his need to fulfill that feeling could consume his already warped brain.
    -Mix of alcohol, his state-of-mind and need to lash out at those who "wronged him". Being called a schizophrenic in the late 1800's England doesn't mean he would fit that criteria now. What ever his mental state was, without any medication that we use today he was knowledgeable enough to make the key to escape and survive without being caught.
    -The kidney - Anyone who enjoyed that for dinner would have spent time at a butchers watching them work. Without medical knowledge it wouldn't take much to know what the kidney looks like and where in the human body it is found.


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- his asylum papers haven't been released yet.

I get the feeling they would show the asylum, and the police in a bad light, then, too, at this point, no one really seems to want the murders solved. In a similar respect, the National Archives refuses to release info on the Kennedy Assassination until 2027 or something like that.

- All our evidences for MJK. (Or others claimed evidence for Kosminsky.)
   
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2016, 03:06:12 am »

Similar Ripper-like murders committed in other cities: New York NY, Trenton, NJ, Galveston, TX, New Orleans, LA, Philadelphia, PA, Baltimore, MD, Jackson, CA, San Francisco, CA, Denver, CO. Each of these murders occurred during the time that Kelly, thorough his confession letter, said he was in that city. Even the city newspapers asked the same question “Is this the work of Jack the Ripper” and “Is this the fiend of Whitechapel?” and “Has Jack the Ripper Invaded Texas at Last“.

Kelly, who I believe is the prime suspect for the Ripper murders, can seemingly be placed in London around the time of the murders, as well as other murders in America much later on.   In the "End of life confession", Kelly himself claims that, and in his own words remember, “I have been on the warpath since I left Broadmoor.”


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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2016, 02:43:13 pm »


Well we shall just have to wait and see who/which is proven right or wrong in the future, our MJK or your JK or others suspects. Thats what matters in the end, total proof of who it was.

There are two isues here, our MJK and not just your JK.
I have given my evidences for MJK being JTR in my blog post (and some cons against JK being JTR here). It is up to people to decide for themselves. No one has given any much disproof against our MJK evidences.

Sorry i just do not have the time and health etc to further debate JK (perhaps i shouldn't have posted sorry). Esp now that i am being forced back to poison fluoridated tap water. Esp if you ignore our MJK evidences and only divert us to answering your JK stuff.

I didn't mean that the picture of JK doesn't look like the JTR pictures, i meant that JK doesn't look/feel like JTR to me abit like Josephine Tey wrote about picture of Richard the 3rd. One of the JTR pics you posted looks abit like a sherlock holmes type of detective. Note sure if Jame Kelly wore tie.

No the trail has not grown cold for me.

Its disgusting how the 100 suspects havs had their private/personal lifes splashed all over the world, while other criminals like the water fluoridation poisoners are made out to be good.

How do you know that MJK couldn't have gone to America?

Could James Kelly afford money for Prostitutes?

The few earlier murders before the canonical ones didn't seem very similar or connected to me from reading all the court cases records.

(Sorry this is my last post because i have now been forced back to poison fluoridated water and no one cares, and other attacks/threats against me which i've posted on at http://iwillnotbeassimilated.blogspot.co.nz/ (i think you have to replace the nz with your own countries two-letters initials or the co.nz with com?))

I may as well post my MJK evidences from my blog here in case anyone not bothered to look at the blog i posted link to.

My evidences for Mary Jane Kelly being Jack the Ripper (canonical murders) from http://2rbetterthan1.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/jack-the-ripper-candidates/ :

-the Mary Jane Kelly (and Eddowes?) is/are the only one of the 11 WC/JTR murders that stands out in various ways. (Also note: Eddowes is also connected with names Jane Kelly and John Kelly and Mary Ann Kelly, and with Dorset St, and with face mutilation.)

-“MJK” was only identified (by Barnett) by ear & eyes.

-the mutilation of the body of “Mary Jane Kelly” victim all seems to fit mutilating/removing all identifiers of body. The clothes were removed, unlike the other JTR/WC murders. Clothes/stuff was burnt, like when destroying evidence? Compare Stewart says the murderess burn ther own clothes in the grate & made her escape wearing Kelly’s clothes.
Compare “crimes ended because of the culprits death”?

-why kill (5/6/7/11) women prostitutes?

-(Saucy) Jacky may indicate a female (like Jackie).

-the language of the postcard/letters/graffitio (“cuss”, “Mister Lusk”, etc) seems like either a lower/working class or a youth or a female. (May also fit with MJK speaking Welsh?)

-MJK always seen with a spotless white apron.

-MJK was “superior to that of most persons in her position in life”, & very “quiet” [often people claim that it is the quiet ones that are the real bad ones (I’m somewhat quiet myself).] “her origins are obscure & undocumented”.

-MJK is the last of the 5 canonical murders.

– the police said the vigilance group’s services were no longer required after the MJK murder, and they removed the extra police at/about same time too. “The great hush after MJK”?

-certain MJK case papers went missing (returned 1987 (anniversary of JTR, compare “a century after the murder Harrison & Paley”))

-Jack could be JK (jane kelly, or john kelly, or jacket)?

-Ripper might possibly connect with Ringer’s? (Kelly & kill?)

-Barnett (also a JTR suspect) gave his evidence very well, like as if maybe he was prepared?

-MJK was seen independently by two people the day after the murder.

-MJK was seen talking with an Jewish man before the murder in a way which seemed like maybe he was going to help her with something big/good (like disappearing) [“you will be alright for what i have told you”, puts right hand on shoulder]. Perhaps also the Juwes and Jewish man have a connection? MJK was a scholar so may have known the Yiddish spelling Juwes?

-AC Doyle suggested a female JTR (“Jill the Ripper”). A woman may have escaped noticed/suspicion because people/witnesses at scene would have naturally been sub/consiously more on lookout for man. Likewise a woman would be more trusted and less suspected by the victims (and cancels strong enough to man-handle?) (maybe lesbian prostitution?). A woman migh have female anatomical knowledge?

-someone else has already proposed MJK [for some same reason/s?] Casebook.org admin’s email “queen mean”?

-every other possibility i have considered falls apart, while this one makes the most sense (though possibly maybe some uncertainty on whether MJK or someone connected with MJK or Eddowes, &/or …). None of the usual suspects (like those listed in wikipedia JTR suspects) quite fits.

-in the American “JTR” murder case notes it was said JTR was still in London.

-women can multi-task unlike men (re expert-like surgical speed).

-MJK said “whatever you do don’t turn out like me”.

-ear deformity?

-seems strange the table behind door in MJK’s room?

-“Sickert stayed in a room that JTR said to have once stayed in”?

-Puck poster has a woman-like person in top right hand corner with a knife?

-she was in whitechapel.

-some forum poster/s said JTR must’ve been in or familiar with Spitalfields (which is where MJK was).
“All the identified victims lived in the heart of the rookery in Spitalfields, including three in George Street (later named Lolesworth Street), two in Dorset Street, two in Flower and Dean Street and one in Thrawl Street.” MJK was in Dorset street, Spitalfields.

– she was an aritist which might connect with adept with a knife and/or with writing in blood etc?

-anatomical/surgical knowledge may fit with MJK being a woman/”an excellent scholar”/artist.

-her father was in the iron works which might connect with very sharp knife?

-JTR was “some independent genius”, MJK was “superior to that of most persons in her position in life”, a scholar and an artist.

– JTR letter said “from Hell”. Compare “Whitechapel was considered to be the most notorious criminal rookery in London. The area around Flower and Dean Street was described as “perhaps the foulest and most dangerous street in the whole metropolis”; Dorset Street was called “the worst street in London”. JTR must have been in WHitechapel area. MJK was in Dorset Street.

(-“The murders drew attention to the poor living conditions in the East End slums….” May indicate that JTR was in whitechapel , and that was a prostitute?)
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