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« on: August 09, 2015, 05:41:55 pm »

Hiroshima: Grief, horror of atomic bomb remembered 70 years on

By Ivan Watson, CNN
Updated 1127 GMT (1827 HKT) August 6, 2015

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Lessons from Hiroshima

Japanese and Americans of post-war generations can look at the lessons of the A-bomb with a certain luxury denied our predecessors. None of us had to fight and die in the Pacific.
The lesson of Hiroshima stands perhaps more relevant than ever today.
My country is embroiled in a debate over the nuclear program in Iran. A nuclear-armed North Korea threatens its neighbors by launching missiles. Russia invades and annexes a piece of Ukraine. Nihilistic jihadi warriors revel in the public slaughter of civilians.
In his peace declaration on Thursday, the mayor of Hiroshima said, "today, we worry as well about nuclear terrorism."
But amid these potential threats to global stability, it is worth keeping one historical fact in mind. The U.S. is the only country in the world to have ever used nuclear weapons in an act of war.

CNN's Yoko Wakatsuki contributed to this report.



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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2015, 05:43:00 pm »



an old song in rememberanc eof Hiroshima
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 12:51:19 am »

It was an unfortunate yet justifiable evil. It saved countless lives.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2015, 12:53:12 am »

It was an unfortunate yet justifiable evil. It saved countless lives.


lol save countless american soldiers you mean, the sacrifice were about 200000 civilians and countles animals and plants. Yeah how can anyone think killing 200000 civilians is justifiable.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2015, 12:55:17 am »

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lol save countless american soldiers you mean, the sacrifice were about 200000 civilians and countles animals and plants. Yeah how can anyone think killing 200000 civilians is justifiable.

Saved many many Japanese lives as well.  If you would do at least the smallest amount of historical research before you spew your crap, you would understand that an invasion would much, much more Japanese lives.  This atomic bombs brought about an earlier end to the war, save lives on both sides.  Learn a bit of history and stop trolling it.

If atomic weapons were to be avoided, the Japanese shouldn't have started the war in the first place.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2015, 12:58:15 am »

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lol save countless american soldiers you mean, the sacrifice were about 200000 civilians and countles animals and plants. Yeah how can anyone think killing 200000 civilians is justifiable.


I like that you mention the animals and plants. They are never mentioned as war casualties.


I'm never sure whether it's a good thing to commemorate events like this on a national or international scale because I wonder if it simply imprints in the human psyche 'Oh, this is what humans do. This has been done before, we can do it again'.
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2015, 01:00:11 am »

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Saved many many Japanese lives as well.  If you would do at least the smallest amount of historical research before you spew your crap, you would understand that an invasion would much, much more Japanese lives.  This atomic bombs brought about an earlier end to the war, save lives on both sides.  Learn a bit of history and stop trolling it.

If atomic weapons were to be avoided, the Japanese shouldn't have started the war in the first place.

First of all Japan had a casus belli, since the USA sanctioned them, embarged them and activly hindered their economy. So in contrast of popular believe it was NO surprise that Japan attacked.
Secondly you don`t know what would have happened if the USA invaded, she could have lost the war against Japan for example.
I am glad that the USA won, but that doesnt justify their means, it is never justifieable to aim at civilians, afterwards you could always excuse it with telling lies like it saved so many lifes blabla.... Truth is it destroyed the earth there, the vegetation animal, plants, future generations and killed countless CIVILIANS. If there was an invasion at least it would have been military against military, not military against civilians.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2015, 01:04:32 am »

It would not have been "military against military".  The Japanese were arming their civilian public, at times with just sharpened sticks.  They were going to fight to the end of their lives--all Japanese lives.  Please do some research in the future.  It would have been Allied military vs. Japanese military AND civilians.  How does that sit with you?  And, by the way, it wasn't COUNTLESS civilians.  Hyperbole alot?

I understand your whining and crying about it, but war isn't supposed to be nice--it's war after all; if one is not prepared for the consequences, one shouldn't start a war in the first place.  And the use of atomic weapons cut down on the overall loss of life.  It was the right thing to do at the time.  Had people known the long-term effects, they would have weighed it against an even larger death toll of an actual invasion and perhaps made a different decision.  The atomic bombs ended the war early, saved many, many more lives, preserved the rest of Japan was destruction, and pretty much ended any after-war insurrection.  All positive points.  Instead of apologizing for their atrocities seven or so decades after the fact, and revising their history books, the Japanese should be thanking the Allies for sparing them an even worse fate.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2015, 01:06:30 am »

Whatever Japan did doesnt justify throwing an atombomb Smiley also the USA treated japanese americans like crap even though they didnt commit any crime.
Also if you read about war conduct through-out history you will come across certain rules of condut for war, like how you treat civilians etc, there was some sort of "nobel" conduct during many ages in the history of humankind, so "war is war" is just another excuse everyone has a free will and nothing men-made is necessary or a natural law, it is always a decision which someone makes by which he or she creates an outcome.

The japanese propably thought like you when they attacked china they saved million people by doing those horrible things and punished the chinese.
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