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Rennes-le-Château
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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2015, 12:26:18 am »

throughout time ones wealth was directly proportional to their level of birdbrainness. i think you are a sad little pauper.
all can see who got caught by their own arrogance and all the jibber jabber in the world won't make you look smart again.

Dear Parta, or rennes, or whatever else you go by on this site, as I told you long ago, you are truly and idiot and fully ignorant of these issues. So why don't you go and find a roosting place worthy of your feathers. You are an insult to Plato and everything he stood for, not to mention this site and those that are seriously, seeking to know. My bird in hand is the last on this, as I give it to you again. And as I gave you, as Rennes, the last word before, so here you, after this, can rave and rant all you want. 

Hermaphodite, you would not even be worth the effort at sockpuppetry. As you show with your every post, you don't know squat about Plato or Atlantis, try to cover up the fact with silly insults. Your posts have very little to do with Atlantis, in fact, you seem to write them just to hear yourself speak. No one here likes you, they either ignore your posts or engage in virulent arguments with you, started by you!

You are, in short, the reason the word "putz" was invented.  Roll Eyes

Keep posting, though, the more people see of you, the more they see what you are all about: a think-skinned little fella that loses composure fairly easily and has to use insults to mask his considerable ignorance. 
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« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2015, 03:44:51 pm »

throughout time ones wealth was directly proportional to their level of birdbrainness. i think you are a sad little pauper.
all can see who got caught by their own arrogance and all the jibber jabber in the world won't make you look smart again.

Dear Parta, or rennes, or whatever else you go by on this site, as I told you long ago, you are truly and idiot and fully ignorant of these issues. So why don't you go and find a roosting place worthy of your feathers. You are an insult to Plato and everything he stood for, not to mention this site and those that are seriously, seeking to know. My bird in hand is the last on this, as I give it to you again. And as I gave you, as Rennes, the last word before, so here you, after this, can rave and rant all you want. 

Hermaphodite, you would not even be worth the effort at sockpuppetry. As you show with your every post, you don't know squat about Plato or Atlantis, try to cover up the fact with silly insults. Your posts have very little to do with Atlantis, in fact, you seem to write them just to hear yourself speak. No one here likes you, they either ignore your posts or engage in virulent arguments with you, started by you!

You are, in short, the reason the word "putz" was invented.  Roll Eyes

Keep posting, though, the more people see of you, the more they see what you are all about: a think-skinned little fella that loses composure fairly easily and has to use insults to mask his considerable ignorance. 

I see that my nursery rhymes are not putting you to sleep, and perhaps you need something more fitting for a completely spoiled brat. But now I am shaking and trembling with fear in fighting the dreadful and all powerful, multi-headed bird-brain creature that you are. As if one dumb brain was not enough for you, you grew a couple more heads with the same crap in it; bird-brains. Well, Heracles needed help to slay his multi-headed hydra, and so summed the help of his relative, Iolaus. I too must summon help. But not having friends nor relatives, as you would have it, and perhaps it is so, then I appeal to anyone here to witness my struggle with this mighty, intellectual foe, and its many-headed jargon coming out of all its mouths, as if it were fire from one of those mythical creatures.

Am I far from saying that wisdom and the wise man have no existence, if we liken him to you, Rennes? But you keep saying that I don't know anything about Plato and Atlantis, and that means you must know these very things yourself to know that I don't know, logically. Therefore, instead of ranting, and crowing, why don't you demonstrate your knowledge and my ignorance in these matters. Do you have a pet theory of your own that you have posted here, to show your great skills and knowledge? What is it that you have posted here on this site, or elsewhere, as the author, that anyone would take notice and complement you on your expertise knowledge of Plato and Atlantis? What have you contributed to this site, that is worth mentioning? What have you disproved?

Then let me ask you this awful question, which is this: Can a man know and also not know that which he knows? I would beg you not to press my words to the letter, but to take the meaning of them as I have explained them. And please remember what I have said. Not to think that anyone ever made another think truly, who previously thought falsely. But perhaps your showing everyone here your excellent knowledge and debating skills, will be a sure sign of an impartial judgment, and one, if rendered justly, will convince the both of us. Provided that anyone else will seriously want either to be a spectator or a judge in such a childish contest, as you are wanting to make others believe that I'm a zealous Christian of sort, and no knowledge of Atlantis and Plato, to boot.

And as your talk about me being a putz, and womanizing my username, and being a pauper and losing composure; are you not doing the same? And if I started with it, do you call yourself wise when you have come down to these terms yourself? Is this the sign of a wise man? Not once have you fought tooth for tooth and eye for eye, when it came to the substance of the argument, not once. Although in your mind you consider yourself a great debater and knower of truth.

I do not ask or bid you to answer in what sense you know these things, but only whether in what sense you do not know. Because you have been proven to see that which you do not see. You keep misreading me, and as far as Atlantis, you believe that what you see in the writings, comes directly from the characters in the dialogues, and not from Plato, the author. Basically, you and a few others consider that Plato is just some type of stenographer, which is just recording and writing down the verbal conversations the characters in the dialogues are having. You also make the story of Atlantis to be true on the basis that, according to you, if Plato said it was true, then it must be true. Well, as I asked a while back, if this is your criterion for classing something as true or false, then by the same criterion, all that Plato said was true in the dialogues, according to your criterion. Now you have all the stories and myths introduced in the dialogues as being true. Something that I posed to you, and for which, as usual, you did not provide a response, but only childish smears.

Since you, apparently, are persecuting me and any posts I venture to make on this site, and will not let me off, then let us not leave the argument unfinished.

You forget that you are the one that started to state that I neither know about Atlantis or Plato. Now it is true that I do not know the exactness of the extent of any truth in the myth of Atlantis, nor do I profess to know to the extent of claiming it to be a myth or a truth. That is certain, but what about you, what say you, dear friend? Well, then, be of good cheer; don't just say that I don't know, but do your best to ascertain to us your true nature in this knowledge you say I lack. Can you show us, and whoever misses shall shut up, and shall be donkey, as the boys say in games. In a word, when you suppose anything to be or not to be, or to be in any way partially effected by either, you must look to the consequences in relation to the thing itself, Atlantis, and any other things of Plato; to each of them singly, to more than one, and to all; and so of other things, you must look at them in relation to themselves and to anything else which you suppose either to be or not to be relevant to Plato and Atlantis, if we are to see, perfectly, the real truth. 

I have said enough against your accusations, now prove to us that your pretense of knowledge has not been detected, just as your friend Nikas was found out by mere logic, and a post on this site back many years where an Italian had, long before Nikas, brought forth the theory of Atlantis being possibly tied to Malta. I had enough of your childish games, so therefore, now is the time for you to elaborate; enough now, with childish name calling. And you need not reprise with the same that I resort to them, as I will admit that. But no more, and you do the same. Just knowledge and words of wisdom will do, if you want to make your slandering stick, otherwise we will part, you as a bird-brain, and me as a putz.  Now you and I have come to an understanding when you realize that I did not come on this site to debate anyone, and I rather just exchange ideas, as is the scope of this site, if I'm not mistaken. Just don't anyone make out anyone's ideas more than they are meant. Agreed? If you have no liking for this plan, than you leave my posts alone, and I will do the same for yours, as I proposed to you before.                 
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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2015, 07:50:43 pm »

Big yawn from this one. Hermaphodite, you were the one to start with the name-calling. Thing is, you  can't even debate someone without getting all flustered and resorting to name-calling. I overlooked it the first few times, then I figured, what is the point? You don't know what you are talking about, you are an especially long-winded lout and you go out of the way to insult people each time your thin-skinned veneer feels threatened, which is, apparently, any time someone disagrees with you. Nikas, Sean, Parta - they are all proof of that. In my view, anyone like yourself deserves what is coming to them.

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You forget that you are the one that started to state that I neither know about Atlantis or Plato. Now it is true that I do not know the exactness of the extent of any truth in the myth of Atlantis, nor do I profess to know to the extent of claiming it to be a myth or a truth. That is certain, but what about you, what say you, dear friend?

I think the better question for you is, what do you bring to this website? Because I have yet to see one person here buy into your correlations between Plato and Christianity, most here believe Atlantis was a real place. Plato was a pagan, he did not believe in Revelations or "judgment." Maybe you would be more at home on a website for religious fundamentalists.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2015, 11:17:36 am »

Big yawn from this one. Hermaphrodite, you were the one to start with the name-calling. Thing is, you  can't even debate someone without getting all flustered and resorting to name-calling. I overlooked it the first few times, then I figured, what is the point? You don't know what you are talking about, you are an especially long-winded lout and you go out of the way to insult people each time your thin-skinned veneer feels threatened, which is, apparently, any time someone disagrees with you. Nikas, Sean, Parta - they are all proof of that. In my view, anyone like yourself deserves what is coming to them.

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You forget that you are the one that started to state that I neither know about Atlantis or Plato. Now it is true that I do not know the exactness of the extent of any truth in the myth of Atlantis, nor do I profess to know to the extent of claiming it to be a myth or a truth. That is certain, but what about you, what say you, dear friend?

I think the better question for you is, what do you bring to this website? Because I have yet to see one person here buy into your correlations between Plato and Christianity, most here believe Atlantis was a real place. Plato was a pagan, he did not believe in Revelations or "judgment." Maybe you would be more at home on a website for religious fundamentalists.  Roll Eyes

Parole, parole, parole. You never produce anything but that. You are a silly bird, but like your cousins, the ostrich and the chicken, which although being birds, cannot fly. And likewise, you, being a bird, cannot sing the tunes you have been asked to produce, repeatedly. Therefore, because I, initially, heard you say that you believe in Atlantis because you believe in Plato, and therefore presumed you to be one that looks to the heavens, and not the deeps of the earth, prematurely, did I consider you someone of an "airy" mind. But, shortly there after, by your responses, I realized my error. Still, I made another error following that one, as I had mistaken you for a bird. But in reality, your soul has already degraded to its lowest constitution possible; you are an oyster, and a citizen of the great Abyss, where Atlantis lies. Therefore you have that deep desire to get back to your dwelling place, Atlantis. But can an oyster, out of water, find its way back?

The race of birds was created by God out of innocent light-minded men, who, although their minds were directed toward heaven, imagined, in their simplicity, that the clearest demonstration of the things above was to be obtained by "sight;" these were remodeled and transformed into birds, and they grew feathers instead of hair. The race of wild pedestrian animals, again, came from those who had no philosophy in any of their thoughts, and never considered at all about the nature of the heavens, because they had ceased to use the courses of the head, but followed the guidance of those parts of the soul which are in the breast. In consequence of these habits of theirs they had their front-legs and their heads resting upon the earth to which they were drawn by natural affinity; and the crowns of their heads were elongated and of all sorts of shapes, into which the courses of the soul were crushed by reason of disuse. And this was the reason why they were created quadrupeds and polypods: God gave the more senseless of them the more support that they might be more attracted to the earth. And the most foolish of them, who trail their bodies entirely upon the ground and have no longer any need of feet, he made without feet to crawl upon the earth. The fourth class were the inhabitants of the water: these were made out of the most entirely senseless and ignorant of all, whom the transformers did not think any longer worthy of pure respiration, because they possessed a soul which was made impure by all sorts of transgression; and instead of the subtle and pure medium of air, they gave them the deep and muddy sea of Atlantis to be their element of respiration; and hence arose the race of fishes and oysters, and other aquatic animals, which have received the most remote habitations as a punishment of their outlandish ignorance.
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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2015, 12:35:14 pm »

you need to have an assessment done. i would have an air quality engineer in to check for ethylene. if they find none then i would repeat your last post word for word to a therapist.
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« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2015, 06:48:19 pm »

you need to have an assessment done. i would have an air quality engineer in to check for ethylene. if they find none then i would repeat your last post word for word to a therapist.

With which head are you speaking now?

Well as a matter of fact, when I was younger and needing to working for a living, not being wealthy like you, I was a Quality Assurance Specialist for over 40 years (now I'm giving away my age), and I was a qualified multi-commodities expert in Petroleum, Cryogenics, Mechanical, Electronics, and other items. And although I usually did not inspect ethylene, it was a gas  that was used on some of the automatic electronic equipment in the lab, to test those hydrocarbons that I inspected. And once, while waiting on a test result, we had a fire-out of the equipment using the ethylene supply as a burning source, and wow, what a blast it caused. Luckily, I was sitting well far away, reading my Plato, as a matter of fact, as I well remember. But still, the air shock almost knocked my socks off. Anyway, funny that you should mention this substance, ethylene, in reference to the passage of reincarnation and birds, beasts, and oysters, because you will not believe it, but that was actually the page I was on, reading Plato. Therefore, according to you, I need to take Plato with me too, to the therapist. And another thing you will not believe, besides Pindar not being the first on the pillars, or their true location, but, again, what a coincidence, I was actually a substitute for the industrial Hygienist, or the Marine Chemist, when I was operating on a vessel at anchor, or in a foreign port where one was not immediately available, so as to be the one to test the air quality of confined spaces, to assure it had the sufficient quantity of oxygen, and free from other toxic chemical, before allowing anyone to enter. The Same type of warning Plato had at his Academy; Let no one ignorant of Geometry enter this place. Or in your case, "Let no one ignorant of Plato's works enter this site."   
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« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2015, 07:53:44 pm »

i have but one head and its not up my ar$e like yours is. were you ever prepared to talk about science at all? you weren't prepared to talk about any important texts.

canada is not an easy place to live. my profession was not an easy one and for most it stays that way till they die. the risks i have taken and some loses were not easy. fishing, golf and carshows in florida for the rest of my winters is only fair.



 
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2015, 02:38:13 pm »

i have but one head and its not up my ar$e like yours is. were you ever prepared to talk about science at all? you weren't prepared to talk about any important texts.

canada is not an easy place to live. my profession was not an easy one and for most it stays that way till they die. the risks i have taken and some loses were not easy. fishing, golf and carshows in florida for the rest of my winters is only fair.



 


Judging from your fishing skills that you have displayed, you probably never caught anything on your hooks, except, bottom debris, such as coke bottles, which you no doubt cash in for refund of deposit, or lese. As far as golf, all you clubs must be bent and also full of excrement from all that stuff coming out of you, and your "palle" must be of gigantic proportion, judging from all your bragging, and are not flying anywhere off your clubs, accept just laying on the ground, between  your feet. Your golfing handicap must be astronomical, just as much elevated as your ignorance and arrogance are. And as far as the cars hows; how much are the organizers paying you for sweeping up after the events? But if you claim to have time on your hands, dear fellow, don't waste it. Take Socrates' advice, and do not go to Hades below, bereaved of knowledge.   

This is the last advice I will give you.

Follow me then, and I will lead you where you will be happy in life and after death, as the argument shows. And never mind if some one despises you as a fool, and insults you, if he has a mind; let him strike you, by Zeus, and do you be of good cheer, and do not mind the insulting blow, for you will never come to any harm in the practice of virtue, if you are a really good and true man. When we have practiced virtue together, we will apply ourselves to Atlantis, if that seems desirable, or we will advise about whatever else may seem good to us, for we shall be better able to judge then. In our present condition we ought not to give ourselves airs, for even on the most important subjects we are always changing our minds; so utterly stupid are we! Let us, then, take the argument as our guide, which has revealed to us that the best way of life is not to be wealthy and retire in Florida, and to waste our time with all those silly past times you enumerated. Fishing being the only practical one of those which could, with the correct knowledge and experience, used to sustain the body; but just how many coke bottles will fit in your abdomen? The true goal is to practice justice and every virtue in life and death. This way let us go; and in this exhort all men to follow, not in the way to which you trust and in which you exhort me to follow you; for that way, Parta, is nothing worth.
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2015, 03:16:44 pm »

you believe people should follow you like a prophet or demi god just because of the crazy ideas you have in your head. i offer people the opportunity to see what science and the texts have to say and judge for themselves. which one of us needs mental help?
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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2015, 04:53:41 pm »

you believe people should follow you like a prophet or demi god just because of the crazy ideas you have in your head. i offer people the opportunity to see what science and the texts have to say and judge for themselves. which one of us needs mental help?

You know, people that winter vacation in Florida, and Arizona, and similar places, and come from the north cold climates, are appropriately called by the year-round residents as, "snowbirds." But even northern chickens still fit the term. This is getting tedious for me. You must be one of those really stubborn donkeys. If you promise to disappear I will admit that I'm the one who needs mental help. And in return for your promise I will make one of my own, and I promise to get medical help as soon as I can afford it. But if you want to do a kind act and prove that you are really human, after all, will you please pay for my care, so that I can get immediate help? Otherwise go and make some dinner table proud, and present yourself, feather-less, head-less, feet-less, and adorned with carrots, onions, potatoes, celery, and don't forget to splash yourself with a little garlic, salt and pepper, and then go and make someone a good soup dish by cooking in your own broth. But be sure to defecate first, and clear all that waste inside you.
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« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2015, 05:01:40 pm »



..... I will admit that I'm the one who needs mental help..... and I promise to get medical help as soon as I can afford it..... But be sure to defecate first, and clear all that waste inside you.
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« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2015, 05:49:24 pm »

you believe people should follow you like a prophet or demi god just because of the crazy ideas you have in your head. i offer people the opportunity to see what science and the texts have to say and judge for themselves. which one of us needs mental help?

You know, people that winter vacation in Florida, and Arizona, and similar places, and come from the north cold climates, are appropriately called by the year-round residents as, "snowbirds." But even northern chickens still fit the term. This is getting tedious for me. You must be one of those really stubborn donkeys. If you promise to disappear I will admit that I'm the one who needs mental help. And in return for your promise I will make one of my own, and I promise to get medical help as soon as I can afford it. But if you want to do a kind act and prove that you are really human, after all, will you please pay for my care, so that I can get immediate help? Otherwise go and make some dinner table proud, and present yourself, feather-less, head-less, feet-less, and adorned with carrots, onions, potatoes, celery, and don't forget to splash yourself with a little garlic, salt and pepper, and then go and make someone a good soup dish by cooking in your own broth. But be sure to defecate first, and clear all that waste inside you.

i am a snowbird but it seemed like the fewer people on the roads in the winter the better. thought that was considerate not cowardly.
if YOU were in canada and opened YOUR mouth in public YOU would have all the free mental healthcare YOU could handle. it iss not my responsibility to get you here but once you do i will be paying for your care.
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« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2015, 05:56:08 pm »



..... I will admit that I'm the one who needs mental help..... and I promise to get medical help as soon as I can afford it..... But be sure to defecate first, and clear all that waste inside you.
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« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2015, 08:44:13 am »

you believe people should follow you like a prophet or demi god just because of the crazy ideas you have in your head. i offer people the opportunity to see what science and the texts have to say and judge for themselves. which one of us needs mental help?

You know, people that winter vacation in Florida, and Arizona, and similar places, and come from the north cold climates, are appropriately called by the year-round residents as, "snowbirds." But even northern chickens still fit the term. This is getting tedious for me. You must be one of those really stubborn donkeys. If you promise to disappear I will admit that I'm the one who needs mental help. And in return for your promise I will make one of my own, and I promise to get medical help as soon as I can afford it. But if you want to do a kind act and prove that you are really human, after all, will you please pay for my care, so that I can get immediate help? Otherwise go and make some dinner table proud, and present yourself, feather-less, head-less, feet-less, and adorned with carrots, onions, potatoes, celery, and don't forget to splash yourself with a little garlic, salt and pepper, and then go and make someone a good soup dish by cooking in your own broth. But be sure to defecate first, and clear all that waste inside you.

i am a snowbird but it seemed like the fewer people on the roads in the winter the better. thought that was considerate not cowardly.
if YOU were in canada and opened YOUR mouth in public YOU would have all the free mental healthcare YOU could handle. it iss not my responsibility to get you here but once you do i will be paying for your care.

Are you really over 18 years of age, and do you have your parents permission to be masquerading as an adult on this site?

And if you are, please provide proof of your age.

Still, giving you the benefit of the doubt, I will consider your offer. However, I'm a cautious person, and intolerant of germs, therefore before I accept your kind invitation I would like to know more about you, but not in a particular order. For instance; how ugly are you? how filthy are you and your surroundings, and does your mom clean after you? Why do like to wallow in ignorance? Why do you prefer to live in fantasy versus reality? What is it that drives you to want insults on top of insults? Are you going to pay for my trip? Why do you lie so much about knowing matters and subjects you really do not know? Why do you suffer from an inferiority complex? Why do you inflate yourself on things that you think important? Why do you value money more than wisdom? Why don't you believe in God?

I see that there is another, apparent, new comer, and perhaps another head growing on the feathered Hydra. But tell me Rennes, more importantly, what was that I said to upset you so much, as to have you signup on this site with other usernames for the sole purpose of trying to make a spectacle of me? And for which, initially, using stealth you facetiously requested information on the pillars? Is it my fault that you don't know how to read and understand English? Or is it my fault that you do not know or understand Plato's works, and apparently not even other classical works, such as Aristotle's, Pindar's and Hesiod's, etc? And as a result of your incapacity you have, clearly, made serious errors in assessing the situation, and blaming me for pointing these things out to you. Did I spoil it for you for telling you that Santa Claus is just a story for children? Well, I was wrong in shocking you into reality, therefore go back to your "CLOUD NINE" as the "Temptations" are coming to mind and fit your case of poverty.   
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« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2015, 09:20:43 am »

i have proven that i know more than you do on any subject you choose. not bad for a child. must be maddening... and as for your self respect... ouch.
you are making a tremendous effort to regain some self respect but you won't get any help from anyone around here.
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