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French Team Says Satellite Images Reveal Underwater City

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How did these cities get under the Caribbean?

Most of the dates that geologists place on underwater anomalies are from 8,000 to 12,000 years ago. This is because they have determined that this is when the oceans were much lower and the submerged land that we see today was once high above the water line.

About 12000 to 14000 years ago, the Earth had just encountered something that changed the climate dramatically. Soon after this mysterious event the ice caps started melting at both the North and South Poles. The oceans received this melting water and rose up to about where they are today.

Geologists think that the "trigger event" may have been something from space -- perhaps either an asteroid or comet that broke up and plunged into the ocean, causing atmospheric heating and huge tsunamis. Another theory has North America being hit by a huge Coronal Mass Ejection. But whatever it was, it left traces of microscopic debris in an identifiable layer that extends in a mat over North America, with its highest concentration being near the Great Lakes.

The theory that these cities were submerged around this time is supported by traces of some kind of impact that is visible on the East coast of America. Thousands of elliptical craters called "Carolina Bays" cover parts of North and South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Virginia and Maryland. One age estimate for the craters is 10,500 years ago at the end of the last Ice Age. [above Aerial photograph of the Myrtle Beach area by Fairchild Aerial Survey in 1930]

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    An estimated half a million (crater) depressions, in at least six states that cover around 160,000 square kilometers.

    Aside from Georgia, North and South Carolina, they are also to be found in other bordering states such as Maryland Virginia and Florida.

    Their (craters) frequency is astonishing. One area of Bladen County, North Carolina that measures 8 kilometers by 6.4 kilometers has a 67% covering of bays. Other areas of the Carolinas have as much as 50% bay cover.

    No fewer than 140,000 of these are of moderate to large size, with lengths of more than 152.4 meters. One of the biggest depressions is Big Swamp Bay in central South Carolina which is six kilometers from one end to the other. Some bays over 11 kilometers long.

    Many craters possess magnetic anomalies.

    In Camden, South Carolina, close to some of the bays, drainage ditch excavators found at a depth of 4.3 meters a mass of downed trees, all in the same alignment as if there had been a massive blowdown in the distant past.

In the 1930s, aerial surveys were done for the first time of the Carolinas. When these pictures were developed and printed, the surveyors noticed as many as 500,000 elliptical craters -- some filled with water, some just dry land across the Carolina states. But also when it was traced further, it was noticed they went as high as New Jersey and down south to Florida. And they covered 6 states.

It was quite clear from plotting the position of these craters that a much larger event must have happened. Ones that went into mountain areas obviously disappeared. Those that went into the water were not traceable. So, right from the earliest point, it was suggested these were the result of meteor showers. But some of the bays or craters were several miles long. Some of them were only a few hundred yards. There was no consistency to what had happened.

[Above Carolina Bay as seen today in a photo from an airplane.]

The consensus of the scientific community was that this was a large asteroid that broke apart and crashed into the earth and Atlantic Ocean with tremendous energy. The time for this event has been placed at about 9000 years BCE.

This is, more or less, the date of these submerged sites -- including the discovery that was announced today. Could it be Atlantis? It's a good guess. Take a look at some of the other artifacts that have been recorded in the Caribbean.

[Above] Although they are not monuments or great cities, there are many unusual linear patterns that have been detected by satellite imagery. Many of these lie in deep water and so are not explored. We see curious patterns that stimulate our imagination and certainly look as if they were made by humans.
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2015, 06:37:39 pm »



Gridded Anomaly, Cay Sal Bank, Bahamas [above] is located at Latitude: 23.75965 Longitude -79.79439. It has a large grid which appears to be the remains of a large building. How did this get there unless it was once on dry land. And once again we ask, "When was the last time this land was dry?" Geologists tell us it would have to be at least 11,000 years ago!
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2015, 06:38:20 pm »

Cuba [above] seems to be central to the most dense collection of underwater artifacts. Located at Latitude: 23 37' 12.32"N / Longitude 78 55' 28.15"W, a linear, gridded area can be seen in both the NASA and Google Earth images of the Cayo Santa Maria off the coast of Caibarien, Cuba. The gridded anomaly area is approximately 2.8 miles long by 3 miles wide. The areas within the 3 red ovals may be possible sub-surface anomalies. Notice there seem to be nodes where many of the lines form intersections suggesting sub-surface anomalies at the intersection areas.
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 Lastly, this image is off the coast of Florida [above]. The linear anomalies below are underwater, approximately 80-110 feet below the surface off the Southern tip of Florida. Latitude: 25 6' 20.52"N / Longitude 82 33' 20.91"W .

What now?

We hope that the announcement today is not another attempt to secure "easy money" for an expensive expedition that will benefit the explorers but not the archaeologists. There is hope that this is real because the photographic images are so detailed and cover a huge area. At least this time, as opposed to the 2001 expedition, we're not looking at some rocks that only appear goemetric -- there apparently is a whole metropolis down there!

As always, we'll keep you posted on the discovery and its ramifications on history.
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2015, 06:40:26 pm »

 What do YOU tink of this? Please send your comments to myristicin-at-hotmail-dot-com. STOP THE PRESSES! NEW EVIDENCE THIS IS A HOAX!

One of our writers, Michael Bradbury, thought the photographs released by the French team of explorers looked familiar. He remembered seeing something while searching in google-earth that reminded him of the motherboard of a computer. The images of the alleged "underwater City" certainly do, now that he mentions it. No, that's not what they are... but look what he found in a google image of a lake out west (coordinates are 44 24' 29.83N/110 24' 07.31W)...
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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2015, 06:41:11 pm »

 It appears the team was serious about getting funds for their expedition -- to the Riviera!

What is it about people these days who do things like this? It started in 2001 with the Zelitsky expedition which resulted in an arrest and extradition... then we had the alleged Bigfoot Body... The motive is always the same -- greed.

Here, some artifacts appear in the digital processing of google earth photographs. Add some clouds and atmospheric effects in PhotoShop and -- viola -- set real science back a decade or so. But wait! Just in... an underground city has been found in a shallow lake in Yellowstone Park.
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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2015, 06:41:42 pm »

http://www.viewzone.com/cuba2.html
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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2015, 06:42:27 pm »

ALLEGED UNDERWATER CITY FOUND IN THE CARIBBEAN - IS IT A SPOOF?



Looks amazing, doesn't it. But is it a lost underwater city?
For the answer see below. (Pic credit: Herald de Paris)
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2015, 06:42:55 pm »


EXCLUSIVE REPORT BY ANDREW COLLINS


An underwater city, complete with roads, structures, and perhaps even pyramids, has been discovered beneath the shallow blue waters of the Caribbean. Yes, they are fantasy headlines that every ancient mysteries reader dreams about. But is it true? Or it is a spoof, a psychological experiment, to test the minds of the gullible and inquisitive, in time for a little Christmas cheer?

Let's examine the story so far . . .

December 9th saw the appearance of a press statement under the headline "Previously undiscovered ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor". It appeared on a news website called Herald de Paris. Click here to read.

The story, penned by the site's founder Jes Alexander, announced that "researchers" have released images showing the presence on the sea bottom, someone in Caribbean waters, of what was believed to be "the archaeological remains of an ancient civilization".

It claimed that the coordinates for the location were being withheld, which seems sensible, but more mysterious is that the "project's leader" has chosen to remain anonymous, which does not help convince the greater public of what is being claimed here.

And what has been found? Well, the anonymous "team leader" reckons that the underwater city, apparently found using "advanced satellite imagery", could be "thousands of years old; possibly even pre-dating the ancient Egyptian pyramids, at Giza."


No Connection to Cuban Claims

This is possible, but, curiously, the author of the new story seems keen to emphasize that the new discovery "is not in any way associated with the alleged site found by Russian explorers near Cuba in 2001, at a depth of 2300 feet."

This refers to the announcement in that year of the discovery of a series of seemingly rectilinear structures in deep water off the west coast of Cuba. At the time, the story went off the scales with public interest, but the discoverers, a Canadian registered salvage company, whose usual job description was searching for shipwrecks, ran out of money before they had a chance to deliver any concrete evidence of what they had found. To read the full story click here.

Why Jes Alexander should want to make it clear that what the "researchers" have found in the Caribbean has nothing to do with this story from nine years ago is unclear, stating only that the new site is "much shallower."

Large parts of the coastal areas of both the Caribbean and neighbouring Bahamas have extremely shallow waters, usually no more than five to ten meters in depth. The series of pictures released to date do indicate underwater features in fairly shallow water. Yet what exactly are we seeing in the pictures?

"You have to be careful working with satellite images in such a location," the "project's principle researcher" admits. However, he adds: "The digital matrix sometimes misinterprets its data, and shows ruins as solid masses."

This is indeed true, and what you think are artificial features, such as rectilinear structures and roads, can turn out to be natural features. Having said this, looking at the various pictures it is almost as if you are gazing down at a modern city submerged beneath the waves.

In fact, this has left readers of the news story dubious of what they are seeing. D. Howerton, for instance, comments on the Herald de Paris site: "I am skeptical because the city is laid out like ours today. In the upper center part of the main photo there is what appears to me to be an airport with a single runway connected to a parking apron. There are other details that make me believe the pictures are not of an ancient city, just intentionally or otherwise bad photography."

Not helping matters is that the press story claims that the "researchers" behind the discovery have identified various built structures, including "a tall, narrow pyramid; large platform structures with small buildings on them", and even a "standing parallel post and beam construction in the rubble of what appears to be a fallen building", something that for them confirms "human involvement".


Is this Atlantis? Er, No

Despite such tall claims, the researchers have been keen to detach their alleged discovery from the dreaded A-word - Atlantis.

As they say: "The romanticized ideal of Atlantis probably never existed, nor will anyone ever strap on a SCUBA tank, jump in the water, and find a city gateway that says, 'Welcome to Atlantis.'"
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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2015, 06:43:30 pm »

That's probably true, but dismissing the whole Atlantis myth is probably inappropriate, especially as everybody else in the world will be thinking "Is this Atlantis?". Well, everyone other than those writers who have convinced themselves that Plato's lost city is off the Greek island of Santorini, or Crete, or Cyprus, or somewhere that it just shouldn't be according to the works of the great philosopher.

For the record, writing in the Timaeus, some time around 350 BC, Plato made it clear that the "Atlantic Island", i.e. Atlantis, was located BEYOND the Pillars of Hercules - the rocky headlands on each side of the Straight of Gibraltar marking the point of no return if you were sailing beyond the Mediterranean into the Atlantic Ocean.

Plato additionally revealed that Atlantis, which controlled an island empire spread out across the Atlantic, was once accessible to "voyagers" from his own world, and that beyond Atlantis were smaller islands used by ancient mariners as stepping stones to reach the "opposite continent", i.e. America.

In my book GATEWAY TO ATLANTIS, published in 2000, I found persuasive evidence that the Atlantean flagship was the Caribbean island of Cuba, with the drowned regions of the Bahamas and Caribbean being the Atlantean empire's sunken kingdom, destroyed according to Plato in "one day and one night" of earthquakes and floods, a memory perhaps of a cataclysm long since forgotten. See andrewcollins.com's Atlantis Files (click here) for a full run down on the Cuba-Atlantis theory.

So if the new discovery in the Caribbean is not Atlantis, then what is it? The researchers say that their underwater "city" might be one of "many cities of an advanced, seafaring, trade-based civilization, which may have been visited by their Eurocentric counterparts."

That's actually a sensible statement, as the work in recent years of US explorers Dr Gregory and Dr Lora Little has gone a long way to proving that the Bahaman islands were used as ports by ancient voyagers. Click here to read more about their discoveries.
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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2015, 06:43:54 pm »

The Littles' diving expeditions off the coasts of islands such as Bimini, Andros and Cay Sal, just north of Cuba, have revealed the existence of submerged stone walls and structures that would seem to have functioned as quays and breakwaters for some unknown maritime culture. These loose stone formations, which are not simply natural features, lie on prehistoric shore lines that date to anywhere between 4000 and 1500 BC, the timeframe of Phoenician and Iberian exploration into the Atlantic Ocean. Indeed, very similar stone formations, utilizing available beach rock, exist off ancient Mediterranean ports, making the connection with the ancient world even more realistic.

Whether any of this has any relevance to the supposed discovery of an underwater city on the Caribbean seafloor is debatable. The "researchers" admit that at this time it would be impossible to date the submerged features, but say: "We have several theories."

Any theories should include the clear fact that if the underwater features do exist, then because they are in relatively shallow water, they cannot be any more than a few thousand years old. Ever since the end of the last Ice Age, c. 10,000-9000 BC, coastal waters around the world have been rising in fits and starts, sometimes fast, sometimes more slowly. Any built structures in anywhere between five and ten metres of water will have been above the water in the not too distant past.

Apparently, the researchers are keen to begin their investigations, mapping and exploring the site, before they intend turning it over to "the Caribbean island's home government".

As they say: "Whatever we've found does not belong to us. It belongs to the people of this island, and to the world at-large. If any pieces are brought to the surface, they belong in the hands of a museum."

The press statement ends with an appeal from the Herald de Paris' website's founder, and "publisher", Jes Alexander. He asks that if anyone wants further information, or wants to sponsor this project, they should ring a special hotline set up solely for this purpose. I rang the number given, and found myself being diverted to the user's voice mail. I tried it later - still on call divert.

Meanwhile, the series of pictures released of the alleged site are not convincing those who I work with investigating the mysteries of the past.

"My initial reaction is hoax," one close colleague, journalist and writer David Southwell, said. "It is the tone of the article. lt does not read right."

This was also the response of Rodney Hale, another trusted colleague working in the field of electronic engineering and digital technology: "I would say a hoax," he says. "If the images were taken from an orbiting satellite, you would not get the perspective effect from that height."
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