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I have found evidence of an Atlantis like catastrophe emanating out from the Canary Islands, the only problem is that it happened 120,000 years ago, too early for our purposes:


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Giant tsunamis

November 2000

Various coastal sites around the world show features suggesting massive scouring of low-lying coastal areas in the geologically recent past (less than a million years). Among these are curious crescentic islands and huge boulders far above sea level in the Bahamas, and the bones of whales and other marine mammals stranded well above modern sea levels along the shores of the various firths (estuarine inlets) of eastern Scotland. There are archaeological curiosities too. The renowned Bronze Age site of Scara Brae on Orkney was excavated from beneath sand. Archaeologists found signs of hurried abandonment of the near-perfectly preserved houses, as if it had been overwhelmed by some catastrophe.

On 12 October 2000 the BBC’s Horizon series presented a 50 minute documentary called Megatsunamis, which examined evidence that tsunamis (often miscalled ‘tidal waves’) more than ten times the height and power of those produced by earthquakes could be set in motion by coastal landslides. The dramatic centrepiece of the broadcast was an eyewitness account by two Alaskan fisherman who survived such a giant wave triggered by the collapse of a mountain slope in a narrow inlet. Their craft luckily stayed upright and careened over the top of dense forest. The scar left by the wave rose as high as 500 metres above the shore. Dams have been destroyed by landslides forcing water over them, and it is pretty obvious that a large enough fall of rock with sufficient energy could generate huge waves that cross entire oceans if it took place on an ocean shore or on an island.

Tristan Marshall, a researcher for Horizon, gives a summary of the evidence for such megatsunamis and the risk posed by unstable slopes in coastal settings, as presented in the programme in New Scientist (Marshall, T. 2000. The drowning wave. New Scientist, 7 October 2000, 26-30). While the Pacific floor around the Hawaiian island chain is strewn by debris from giant landslips, they are undated and difficult to link to evidence for wave inundations around the Pacific rim. Such a collapse of part of El Hierro in the Canary Islands dates to 120 thousand years ago. This could explain the chevron ridges and the 2000 tonne perched boulders of the Bahamas by the megatsunami resulting from the collapse. Clearly, this possible link poses a frightening threat to any shoreline habitation, for waves capable of the transformation of the Bahamas would rise above the largest skyscrapers of coastal cities; that is, if similar landslips are poised ready to go.

Most volcanic islands show evidence for big slope failures, because they are built rapidly by lavas and ash flows. Worryingly, the active volcano Cumbre Vieja on La Palma in the Canary Islands seems a possible candidate for the future. During its last eruption in 1949 a fault breached surface along the crest of this fissure-type volcano. Should that form the failure surface for a future landslip, a sizeable portion of La Palma falling in the Atlantic would displace a giant wave directed at the western seaboard of the USA. That is made all the more likely by the interior structure of the volcano. Being a fissure volcano, its edifice of volcanic rubble is riven with north-south dykes. These act as dams to groundwater movement, so building up perched water tables that can lubricate potential failure surfaces should they become overloaded or triggered by new eruptions.

For the curious, the evidence for a megatsunamis affecting the Scottish coast is aged around 4000 years ago, and it was probably set in motion by a submarine landslip of glacial debris off the west coast of Norway.
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Scientists unearth 15,000 year-old city in southern Morocco
Morocco, Local, 8/20/2004]

A team of Moroccan scientists have unearthed, near the southern city of Aousserd, remnants of a city, believed to be 15,000 years old and to belong to an ancient Amazigh civilization.

The ancient city "Arghilas" (cheetah) in Berber language was found by chance by a team of cartographers, reports Morocco's TV channel " 2M."

The region is rich in wall paintings tracing the history of prehistory humans who used to inhabit the Sahara. The team discovered columns that are likely the beams of the city's temple and in the other side of the city a collective necropolis surrounded by habitats.

These ancient buildings were found in a state of advanced decay due to weather erosion and human activities, 2M says.

The site is currently being studied by archeologists and authorities plan to make it available to geology students to gain insight on how ancient humans lived in the Sahara.
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That could be the first proof that civilization actually started in the west, not the east! It could be that more archaeology has been found out east simply because more has been done.
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You are certainly right, that more archaeological remnants from early times were found in the Near East because much more excavations were made there. In Morocco, however, nearly nothing was excavatrd up to day, and it seems, that governemental laws are prohibiting further research in the present time.

So, we should not be astonished to find unexpected things there, eventually also remnants which we can date into the time, when Morocco wqas part of the Atlantean federation.
 
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Archaeological evidence on north African influence on Iberian populations discovered near Tetouan





Maghreb, Local, 4/9/2003

Archaeological evidence on North-African influence on Iberian populations were found in a cavern near the northern city of Tetouan, the Moroccan ministry of culture said in a release.

The searches, conducted in cooperation between Morocco's national institute of archaeology and heritage and Oxford University's archaeological institute, found human bones and stone tools that prove the existence of an influence of North-African populations on those of the Iberian Peninsula, especially in the Region of Cadiz in the period between 25,000 and 18,000 BC.

The searches had started March 1st in the caverns of Al Hattab and Kahf Elhmer, located respectively in the regions of Oulad Ali Mansour and Oued Laou.

Geological, historical and climate studies showed that between 25,000 and 18,000 BC, the Mediterranean sea level decreased by over 90 meters, which gave islets that made it easier to cross to south Europe, the release goes.

The populations that crossed to south Europe, limited in number used new stone tools, unknown in the region until then, the ministry of culture explained, adding that other searches will be led in a site called Aqbil.

The only searches to have ever led to human bones dating back to before 25,000 BC are those conducted in the site of Tafoughalt (east).


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                        Medium Stone Age human remains unearthed in Central Atlas Mountains





Morocco, Local, 10/27/2004

A graveyard that comprises several different kinds of tombs and that could go back to prehistory times was discovered in the Azrou region, in the Atlas Mountains, North-Central Morocco, said a communiquŽ of the Moroccan Institute for Archaeology and Heritage (INSAP).

An INSAP team also unearthed several other archaeological sites close to the towns of El Hajeb, Timehdit and Ain Louh, all located in the same region of the Mountains, since it started works last September.

Excavations in these regions helped the team determine the sites could have been inhabited by humans in the medium stone age (120.000 to 40.000 years before History.

At the Ain Maarouf site close to El Hajeb, the team discovered a number of caves used by humans between the medium stone to the modern stone ages, as well as remains that could belong to Homo-erectus man and to several animals like hippopotamuses, elephants


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ATLAS MOUNTAINS - MOROCCO
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The Late Upper Palaeolithic Occupation of the Moroccan Northwest Maghreb During the Last Glacial Maximum





Authors: Barton, R.1; Bouzouggar, A.2; Collcutt, S.3; Gale, R.4; Higham, T.5; Humphrey, L.6; Parfitt, S.7; Rhodes, E.8; Stringer, C.6; Malek, F.9

Source: African Archaeological Review, Volume 22, Number 2, June 2005 , pp. 77-100(24)

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New work at Kehf el Hammar Cave provides the first well-dated palaeoenvironmental sequence for the Late Upper Palaeolithic in this region of the northwest Maghreb. The archaeological layers are dated via a combination of AMS radiocarbon and luminescence dating methods. The sequence contains charcoal-rich occupation layers with faunal, human and lithic finds. Local vegetational patterns are reconstructed on the basis of preliminary analysis of the charcoal evidence. Using standard calibration curves the AMS radiocarbon dates are compared with proxy evidence for climatic change from sea core records in the Alborán Sea. These appear to show that the Late Upper Palaeolithic occupation of the region coincides closely with Heinrich Event 1, a period marked by intense aridification and dating to ca. 16,700–17,250 calendar years ago.
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The Middle-Upper Palaeolithic of Northern Morocco and contacts with southern Europe
A British Academy supported project
 
Early Human contacts between southern Europe and Africa




The possibility of movement or even contact across the Gibraltar Strait by ancient humans is a highly contentious issue in the field of human evolutionary research. At the centre of the debate is the question of whether the Gibraltar Strait served as a barrier or corridor to human migration. The earliest documented presence of early Homo sapiens in Morocco is from the site of Jbel Irhoud and can be broadly dated to between about 90-190,000 years ago. During this time, the Iberian side of the Strait, was occupied by another human type-Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis). Interestingly, both types shared a similar level of technological development and are associated with Middle Palaeolithic industries. However, despite similarities in the stone tool technology it remains unclear whether these populations ever came into direct contact, and if so, whether there was any significant gene flow.
 
Similar uncertainty exists for later periods. For example fundamental questions remain concerning the end of the Middle Palaeolithic (known as the Aterian) and whether the appearance of the Upper Palaeolithic (Ibero-Maurusian) in Morocco coincided with the arrival of new populations of incoming modern humans. The latest thinking suggests that population exchange certainly took place across the Strait during this period but there is little in the way of dated evidence from Morocco to support this view. Equally, the arrival of the first farmers of the Neolithic in the western Mediterranean and their impact on local environments remains poorly documented.
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Thus, amongst the broader, long-term aims of this project are to construct a fuller and more reliable chronological record of human occupation in northern Morocco and to refine understanding of environmental and climatic changes which influenced the inhabitants of this area. A preliminary pilot stage of this project was undertaken in 2001-2, to identify suitable cave sites for future research work and to begin to collect samples for dating and palaeoenvironmental studies. The project is jointly organised and directed by Dr Nick Barton, then of Oxford Brookes University, and Dr Abdeljalil Bouzouggar of the Institut National des Sciences de l'Archéologie et du Patrimoine in Rabat. It is multidisciplinary in scope and involves the collaboration and support of a number of other UK institutions including the Natural History Museum, London.

One of the sites investigated was that of Ghar Cahal on the northern coast of Morocco near Ceuta and more or less directly overlooking the Strait of Gibraltar. Previous excavations at the cave had demonstrated its rich archaeological potential but the results had not been adequately published and chronological information was largely lacking. Our survey enabled the redrawing, recording and full description of the main stratigraphic units (by Collcutt), as well as the implementation of a full programme of sampling. We were able to investigate the lower sequence of Neolithic deposits and underlying Ibero-Maurusian levels. In addition to lithic artefacts a very rich assemblage of charcoal and of small terrestrial vertbrates, including bats, rodents, reptiles and amphibians and birds were recovered from these horizons which will enable detailed reconstruction of the palaeoenvironment (by Parfitt). Bone and charcoal have been submitted to Oxford for AMS radiocarbon dating and the results are currently awaited. One of the most exciting finds was that of an engraved bone from highest Upper Palaleolithic level. The find is an incomplete fragment but it shows that abstract designs were being used in mobiliary art towards the end of the Palaeolithic in this region. The excavations also revealed lithic artefacts of potential Middle Palaeolithic type from a much deeper horizon but the logistics of exploring these layers proved too difficult to make any further work possible. Nevertheless additional excavation at the site, including examination of the deeper deposits, might be considered in the future. Human remains from the cave, housed in the collections of Tétuoan Museum, were described and advice on their long-term conservation was given by the Natural History Museum team.
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Survey work was also extended further south in the region of Oued Laou where preliminary sampling was undertaken at Kehf el Hammar. Previous testing of the site by a Moroccan-Spanish team had revealed only Ibero-Maurusian finds, with no overlying pottery or other Neolithic artefacts. Our new work revealed the archaeological sequence to be undisturbed and exceptionally thick. There is an abundance of artefactual, faunal and palaeobotanical remains. Sampling of a vertical column through the sediments (described by Collcutt) will allow extraction of charred plant remains and fauna for identification and dating. Burnt chert artefacts were sampled for luminescence dating. The artefacts recovered included tools such as microliths and a number of pierced marine shell ornaments and shaped stone pendants. During clearing of the upper layers of the cave a number of human remains of adults and children were uncovered. The context of these finds has not yet been fully clarified, but it is likely they are of Upper Palaeolithic Ibero-Maurusian type. This will need to be confirmed by AMS radiocarbon dating and detailed morphological studies.
 
The survey included test excavations at three other caves in the region. At the caves of Hattab 1 and 2 relatively short sequences were investigated revealing disturbed Neolithic levels with carinated ceramic wears. At Hattab 2, against the back wall of the cave and underlying a stalagmitic floor, was uncovered an extraordinary human burial. The find consisted of an intact human skeleton in extended position, near the base of the cave. Only the skull has so far been lifted. The excellent preservation of the facial region shows that that upper incisors of the maxilla had been removed ante-mortem. This can also be shown by the absence of wear on the central lower incisors, indicating that the upper incisors were extracted during the lifetime of the individual.

Similar examples of evulsion of the upper incisors are known in Upper Palaeolithic human burials from Ibero-Maurusian levels at sites like Taforalt Cave and tentatively dated to about 16,000 years ago. Dating of charcoal in the stalagmite above the burial at Hattab 2 will provide a minimum age of the inhumation, although it is hoped that this will be followed up with a direct date on the human bone. Finally, Akbil Cave, located nearby, was briefly examined. In addition to undisturbed Neolithic levels inside the cave, a survey of the slopes near the entrance revealed evidence of Middle Palaeolithic artefacts including a typical Mousterian point. The cave's enormous archaeological potential requires further investigation.


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                                     82,000-year-old shells found in Moroccan cave





June 5, 2007


RABAT --  The oldest decorative seashells ever found, dating back 82,000 years, have been discovered in a cave in Morocco, a local expert said Tuesday.

They were found near Berkane in the east of the country, Abdeljalil Bouzouggar, a researcher at the Moroccan Institute of Archaeology, said.

He said that until recently no such shell decorations older than 50,000 years were thought to exist in Africa, though in 2002 the discovery in South Africa of perforated shells dating back 75,000 years had "shaken" that view.

"In 2003 in Morocco we first discovered a single perforated shell, but we worked for four years to arrive at a dozen of the Nassarius gibbolosus [seashell] type," he said.

Bouzouggar headed an international team of experts working with Nick Barton, a researcher from Oxford University in England, at the Pigeons' Cave at Taforalt, 20 kilometers (12 miles) from Berkane.

He said that the team had used four different dating systems that had given the same result, an age of around 82,500 years.

"The perforated shells have a red-ochre color, which they did not originally possess and which was applied to them by the men of that era," he said, seeing in them "a decorative, artistic activity on shells on the edge of the Mediterranean.

"On most of the perforated shells we have observed a slight degree of wear in a position that lends support to the idea that they were worn in a collar round the neck."

Moroccan, British, French, and US archaeologists took part in the research.


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                                                The 80,000 year old bling





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Africa led the way when it came to the birth of culture, reports Roger Highfield


The birth of jewellery took place at least 80,000 years ago, when it was being made across Africa, according to a study of a dozen ancient, battered sea shells.

 
The Nassarius shells are not isolated occurrences, they are present at various other sites in Morocco

These handmade beads, found in a limestone cave in Morocco, along with similar shell beads from Skhul Cave, Israel, tentatively dated to around 100,000 years old, and 75,000 year old pea sized seashell beads found three thousand miles away in the Blombos Cave, South Africa, provide overwhelming evidence that humans were fashioning purely symbolic objects in Africa long before they did in Europe.

The shells may have been "bling" and, given the wear found on the perforations, worn in necklaces to reveal status. They may have been used as burial goods, or as "love letters" to impress the opposite sex or turned into pendants to ward off evil spirits. They may even mark the birth of money, to boost trade and relationships, and earliest storage of information outside the human brain.

Whatever their original use, they tell a fascinating story about the birth of modern behaviour.

Although the skull and brain form - hardware - of modern humans first emerged in Africa about 200,000 years ago, some experts maintained that the software - culture - only emerged about 50,000 years ago in Africa and spread to Europe soon after, when our ancestors began to adorn their bodies with beads and pendants, played simple instruments and painted representations of animals, people and magical hybrids in caves.

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Now, in the journal the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, an international team reports what is seen as conclusive evidence that the cultural revolution occurred much earlier, in Africa, and much closer to the birth of modern human anatomy.

The discovery of beads at the Grotte des Pigeons, Taforalt, in Eastern Morocco - in a site that was once 25 miles from the coast - was made by archaeologists from the UK, Morocco, France and Germany, led by Oxford University's Institute of Archaeology and Morocco's National Institute for Archaeological Sciences.

Twelve Nassarius shells were holed in their centres, and showed signs of being suspended or hung. They also appeared to have been covered in red ochre, as has found to be the case with later examples of African beads.

Co project director Prof Nick Barton, Director of Oxford's Institute of Archaeology, speaking yesterday from Morocco, said that the team is confident of the dates, based on four independent methods: 'We now have absolutely cast iron evidence.

Bead making in Africa was a widespread practice at the time, which was spread between cultures with different stone technology by exchange, or by long-distance social networks," he said. "The shells found in Morocco, Israel are from the same group of species (genus) though not the same species and he said it is "quite remarkable that they should be using this particular sort of shell in Africa over such a wide area. They have a got a very alluring shape, about the size of a Fox's Glacier mint."

Preliminary work by the team, which includes Jalil Bouzouggar, has also shown that these Nassarius shells are not isolated occurrences, but are present at various other sites in Morocco. Some may turn out to be even older than the discovery at Taforalt.

Last year, Prof Chris Stringer, at the Natural History Museum, London, and some members of the same team came up with evidence that bling may date back even further when they re-examined shell beads that were excavated decades ago from sites in Israel and Algeria in the early half of the 20th Century.

The date of the shells was found by chemically matching the sediment stuck to one with that from the levels of the human burials at Skhul, Israel.

"The evidence we published last year was for shell beads from Skhul Cave, Israel, that were probably at least 100,000 years old, thus older than our new Moroccan finds," said Prof Stringer.

"But some workers questioned the Israeli evidence because there were only a couple of shell beads and they were from old excavations, whereas there are many more of the new finds, they have been found during recent excavations, and the sediments containing them have been directly dated.

"For me these new finds settle the question whether there was widespread symbolic behaviour by early modern humans by 75,000 years ago.

"If you draw a triangle covering the three furthest known locations of Homo sapiens between 75,000-125,000 years ago that triangle stretches from South Africa to Morocco to Israel. Shell beads are now known at all three points of that triangle, with three different stone tool industries

" So such behaviour had probably spread right across the early human range by this time, and would have been carried out by modern humans as they dispersed from Africa in the last 100,000 years. "


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« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2007, 02:06:02 pm »

 Smiley  Well it only stands to reason, that if Atlantis was this close to Africa, (Morroco) then there would be some kind of evidence in Morroco.  OMG, "Bianca" I should have called this thread Morocco Eastern Atlantis!  LOL.  Why didn't somebody correct me!  Roll Eyes  Let me know if it's too late to modify that, or will it mess everything up.  Sorry about that, I'm usually good with directions.

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It is also speculated that the advanced civilisation of the Atlantis had tapped unknown sources of energy specially those inherent in the tectonic plate movements which are responsible for earthquakes. Unwise utilisation of this source of energy might have led to its being destroyed in a major earthquake.


Nice to see that I’m not the only one who thinks that the Atlanteans played with fire and got burnt, LOL. 


PS  "B" you are truely amazing with your posts!  And Luciano slowed you down? 
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SUNGATE:

Go ahead and change the name, why not?

But, please, don't blame yourself for anything.  But how long is it since you REALLY took a look
at this geography?  Grade School? ME TOO......

AMAZING  what I am reading in these maps and the rocky beaches of LANZAROTE. 

And now that I'm getting into the research, I'm almost having 'visions".....


Luciano made me bury myself into something else, otherwise I'd still be sobbing, instead of
tearing up now and then.

Beautiful of you to express so well what he meant to you and the world.

I managed a little "ADDIO" too, for me and all other 'expats'......

I spent part of the morning at you Tube.  Can you imagine how 'Summerland' must be rocking
with all that talent?  Enrico, Beniamino, Tito and a host of other MAESTRI.........

Hugs,
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