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« on: June 30, 2012, 11:49:39 pm »

Atlantis uncovered? - A Journey to a sunken City in the Atlantic Ocean

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 06:59:27 am »

DEAR,........TERRAN - KESS

Don't You pay attention ?
To the " other Theories "
ATLANTIS was NOT in the Artlantic Ocean because
it only received THAT name in 1648 at the Treaty of Munster in Germany.

BlueHue2 has discovered that ATLANTIS-Ocean
is NOT the original name for the ( Former)GERMAN SEA
Which was renamed in 1649 as neutral Atlantic Ocean by the Dutch
at the Treaty of West-Phalia at Munster in 1648-9  
Which ended the 80 Year's War between the Dutch Republic and Spain.

The Dutch after appearently " Having won their war of independance "
from Colonial Spain in 1648-9 were loath, to travel through the Habsburg-Sea
and wanted to have that name changed into something " Neutral"
which became the " Atlantic Ocean "

UNKNOWN to many, in 1500 ad, SPAIN and it's Ruler FERNANDO-1 declared" Spain"
to be the original HYPERIA or Iberia of Plato's Dialogues( dd 366 bc.)
COLUMBUST "To -the- Columns -or- Bust"!\
Did NOT look for a shorterway to INDIA But Atlantis, as the Jews -original- Heavens

ATLANTIS or Adland formerly was Hedjaz in Araby Capital the PORT of ADEN(= Eden.)
Columbust knew that from manuscripts ,
but he did not count on meeting America( which he named" India-NOVA") at Midway-inbetween!
Names as Carribbean Sea Port/Cape Hatteras (= HEDJAZ.)Atlanta etc.
originally belong to the Gulf of Aden.
on a Spanish Map of 1702 the Spanish colonies were named after the 10 tribes of Atlantis !@

Sincerely, 'BlueHue2' dd 29 Aug.2012
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Atlantis in,"historical-Perspective"
=Known-World,Oikumene=Now,Yemen>Surat-89

This Egyptian,INDIAN-Ocean trade-Empire was
ruled by-CEO-Queen Tiy

PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2012, 08:08:48 pm »

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ATLANTIS was NOT in the Artlantic Ocean because
it only received THAT name in 1648 at the Treaty of Munster in Germany.

Dude!  It had that name since the Romans!  Read some history.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 10:19:32 am »

Dear Mrs CAROLYNE  SILVER,

The Oldest -printed- name for the present, Atlantic Ocean
strangely is, GERMAN Ocean or even Spanish Sea(1500 ad.)
the Name ´Oceanus Atlanticum´was handwritten(Ptolemy-Strabo)

But by the Time Printing was invented ( dd 1480 )
Ortelius, Mercartor, BLAUE, used Not the toponym Atlantic-Ocean, but, the´modern´name Spanish Sea.Mare Hispognola

SERGIO  FREY
has discovered that ERATOSTHENES around 250 bc
willfully changed the Maps of Europe
By inserting false topographical names into the existing pattern
One of which was the Name `Atlantic Ocean ´

Even the Baltic Sea was re/named after the Sinus Persicus
which was alternatively, also known as the Sea of HAVILA or AB(h)ALITES
from which mysterious ways, was derived the name Baltic(for Abalites-Sinus.,.)

This names changing game/scheme,  went even so far that some
Scholars thought that there ever was a`HERACLES in the BALTIC´.

Heracles could never have passed though the Rhone-valley in South-France,
his presence, doesn´t even belong to France in Europe
BECAUSE when Heracles supposedly roamed France, supposedly around 1350 bc.
during his 12 Labours, the Romans didn´t exist yet in Italy
neither was that country known as Italy.
As you remember the Romans only entered Italy AFTER Hercales went there.
So How could Heracles have lived contemporary with Romans in italy
Romans arrived in Rome about 753 bc

Yet Heracles passed that place on his
 way back to Greece and Mycene
Heracles lived about 1350 bc Etruscans arrived much later, in 900 bc.

The CLUE is that Aeneas boarded Italy around a very late date 860 not 1360 bc.
Whilst the ( False) Date of the Troyan-War is 1200 bc or 1193 bc

OCEAN in ancient Greek terminology, simply means a common iver floating past a cubntery named The Mid-World hence (Mid-)World-River(Not circllng the GLOBE!)
means a Sea/brance or Sea /Bay like the Bay of California !

The WHOLE name for OCEAN was SEA that Encompassed the Middle World=Oikumenos
The original Atlantic Epithet was only about a small Part washing Atlantis´s shores which now is named Aden hence Gulf of Aden.

But we in our cultural ignoreance applied The (`True `Ocean/Part), of
PLATO´s notion of just a SMALL part of THE Ocean beiing named Altantic,
to the WHOLE ( or veritable/Part ')of the Ocean and so that meaning got lost !
and the doubtfull name Ocean got separated from it´+s original Meaning OKEANOS
and started it´s own life

WHY would Eratosthenes promote such a blatant Lie would you ask I guess

Because he wanted to give the WEST Punicians who were
fighting a politcal battle with the Romans over the
Rightfull posession of SPAIN, a mythical Story to bluff the Romans

But things got out of hand
and now WE are stuck with a falsified name
of Atlantis Ocean for German or Spanish Sea.
in, American colonial times named "Mare-Oceanum" but NO "Atlantic"-prefix.

In addition to naming the Spanish Sea`The Atlantic`
IreLand and England were referred to as ''ancient Troy"
and Holland was Thought to be 'Ancient Atlantis'.

But maybe you as a conventional  Atlantis Buff
were not familiar with the above alternative solution
to the Atlantis Location problem.

CONCLUSIUON

Atlantic Ocean referred to the SEA BRANCE( Brazil )
paralell to the LAND of AD) Today HEDJAZ.'
SINUS/Arabicus is the Latin name for the Greek
OKEANOS or Mid/Earth Sea ( Mid/Earth is Araby.')


Sincerely,

´DUDE´ BlueHue,dd 9 Nov. 2012 from, Amsterdam- Holland.
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Atlantis in,"historical-Perspective"
=Known-World,Oikumene=Now,Yemen>Surat-89

This Egyptian,INDIAN-Ocean trade-Empire was
ruled by-CEO-Queen Tiy

PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 11:30:03 pm »

Bluhehue..no way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever heard of Herodotus, have you eve read the Histories of Herodotus?


The oldest known mention of "Atlantic" is in The Histories of Herodotus around 450 BC (Hdt. 1.202.4): Atlantis thalassa (Greek: Ἀτλαντὶς θάλασσα; English: Sea of Atlas)!

That is WAY before any of the dates you mentioned. As I said, read some history!  Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2014, 10:21:21 am »

Dear Mrs. CAROLYN  SILVER,
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My apology, for this late reply,
I liked you Style of response:"Dude, the 'Atlantic-Ocean' is in America !"

Yes I read some of Herodotus'Histories, but not about the "Persian-Wars" Too many Battles)
But let's oncentrate about the Toponym "Atlantic-Ocean" as "Sea-of-Atlas"

Okeanos-Atlanikoum, as I mentioned earlier, it is a misunderstanding to suggest
that the ancient atlantic Ocean encompassed the 'World' as in 'Globe-of-'

Araby or the Peninsula-of-Punt was alternatively known as "The World", so
obviously the Okeanos as World-River WAS NO ALLUSION TO THE Spheral-GLOBE
but rather to Araby, enclosed on almost 4-sides by Sea-brances, named Sinusses
( Sinus-Alanitus, Sinus-Arabicus, Sinus-Persicus, and the "Middle-Sea">or PONTUS
PONTUS was part or even "Son -of- Okeanos", it's -present- name is "Gulf-of-Aden"

In Plato's terms,
the (-Present-)"Red -Sea" was the Veritable-Okeanos"
but the "Gulf-of-Aden" was "the "True-Okeanos".y

Originally( and no ancient-araby mapper realised this)

ARABY is derived from: Latin "Terra-Arabis" the litterary translation of Greek "Meso-Pothamia, Land inbetween two Rivers
Those 2 Rivers were NOT the Tigris/Euprates, but the 2 Okeanos or Sinus in Latin

That PART of the entire Okeanos that streamed along the Coast of Ad-Land ONLY, was named the Ad-lantic-Ocean. or Interconnecting Sea, hence Pontos-Sea
The socalled Atlantic-OCEANthus existed in three separate PARTS.

The vertical-western PART, now Red-Sea, was named the "Mid-World-Sea"(or"MED")
because, it streamed along the coast named " Mid-World ""or "MITTANIA"(=Mid-World)

WHEN the original/ aboriginal/ Barbarious/ Latin & Greeks from South-Araby, were
destitute, after the unrecorded Mega-Tsunami of 705 bc, in Felix-Arabia/ Yemen/ Oman

Emp.Sanherib(=Sargon2)arranged that the Mediterranean Peoples went to present Europe as assyrian Colonists, with Assyrian Gods, whereby'Zeus'was Salmanassur-3
The Patricide who murdered his Father Saturn(= Assurnasirpal-2)or Shuttarna of Mittanni !

Hence the original name of Okeanos-Media, was recreated as (New/Nea-)MidlandSea
Otherwise one shoud wonder if the Present-"MED"is New, where then is,the Old-one?!

To conclude my research/backfee narrative:
IF the present Atlantic Ocean is its ancient name than pray, why is that name

written on the historical Map of Pensylvania-Colony as "MARE- OCEANUM" abnd NOT
Mare Atlanticum or Oceanum-Atlanticum?( Around 1625)
"Because, when in 1648 the Treaty of Munster in Gemany was concluded, ending the
80-years War between Hollan & Spain,
(1560-1649)

The Dutch stipulated that HENCEFORTH THE MARE OR OCEANUM HISPAGNOLUM SHOULD BE RENAMED "DUTCH-SEA" overpretentious ofCourse so the old Toponym
got an already previous suggested name neutral name "Atlalantic Ocean" !


Sincerely, "Blue-Hue "dd Apri 3, 2014

Quote from: Carolyn Silver link=topic=30867.msg24t7715#msg247715 date=1352525403
Bluhehue..no way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever heard of Herodotus, have you eve read the Histories of Herodotus?


The oldest known mention of "Atlantic" is in The Histories of Herodotus around 450 BC (Hdt. 1.202.4): Atlantis thalassa (Greek: Ἀτλαντὶς θάλασσα; English: Sea of Atlas)!

That is WAY before any of the dates you mentioned. As I said, read some history!  Cheesy
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Atlantis in,"historical-Perspective"
=Known-World,Oikumene=Now,Yemen>Surat-89

This Egyptian,INDIAN-Ocean trade-Empire was
ruled by-CEO-Queen Tiy

PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2014, 03:02:47 am »

Not really sure where you are getting your research from, Bluehue, but the Arabs had zilch to do with Atlantis..! They were nowhere near the Atlantic.
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