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Existence: is there a point to it?


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Dawn Moline
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« on: May 12, 2012, 11:30:46 pm »

Human beings: a random accident in the universe, or an act of intended creation?  If so, why?

The universe, another random accident, or is there a point to all these heavenly bodies?
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"The unexamined life is one not worth leading."
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2012, 11:36:17 pm »

If we are just a random accident, then please explain all the intricacies of human behavior, other beings, even large ones like the dinosaurs, were simply instinct, nothing more.

And yet, there does not seem to be much of a path to our lives and the world seems more made for evil, nothing more. How often have we seen good people lead lives of poverty and despair, when too often we see the rich lead lives of self gratuity and greed, scavenging all they can consume?

I weigh the options and often it seems that we were, each of us, created by some higher power, but, in most instances, created simply to suffer as well.

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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2012, 11:37:32 pm »

Nihilism

Nihilism (play /ˈnaɪ.ɨlɪzəm/ or /ˈniː.ɨlɪzəm/; from the Latin nihil, nothing) is the philosophical doctrine suggesting the negation of one or more putatively meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.[1] Moral nihilists assert that morality does not inherently exist, and that any established moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism can also take epistemological, metaphysical, or ontological forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or that contrary to popular belief, some aspect of reality does not exist as such.[clarification needed]

The term nihilism is sometimes used in association with anomie to explain the general mood of despair at a perceived pointlessness of existence that one may develop upon realising there are no necessary norms, rules, or laws.[2] Movements such as Futurism and deconstruction,[3] among others, have been identified by commentators as "nihilistic" at various times in various contexts.

Nihilism is also a characteristic that has been ascribed to time periods: for example, Jean Baudrillard and others have called postmodernity a nihilistic epoch,[4] and some Christian theologians and figures of religious authority have asserted that postmodernity[5] and many aspects of modernity[3] represent a rejection of theism, and that rejection of their theistic doctrine entails nihilism.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2012, 03:28:11 pm »

I can help you with that one, Dawn. By golly, the point of existence is to amass as much money as you can, screw over the little guy, then when you have all you want, run for President so that you can make it easier for your fellow like-minded millionaires to do the same thing!
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2012, 07:10:13 pm »

Hi Dawn,

The answer to these age-old questions can't come from philosophy.  It has to come from the spiritual.

Tom
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2012, 11:15:56 pm »

I think human life was created in a laboratory and maybe the universe as well. Makes sense, there is no advanced being watching over us all, but rather maybe an advanced civilization?
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 11:54:53 am »

Remember what Einstein said.   "God does not throw dice."

There is a point to creation, and there was a point for us being in creation at the point in time where we are here in now.

There is a divine plan, the likes of which no single being in creation can understand the whole but can do his/her/its part.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 10:16:38 pm »

If God DID throw dice, he'e be a winner every time, like me, Mitt Romney!
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 10:17:42 pm »

I think that God exists but likes to torture us for the hell of it.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 11:18:15 pm »

The meaning of existence is to lead a good clean life, stay clear of hedonism, vote for faith-based candidates, and then, when it is all over with, God may well take you into his bosom.  Only then will; you know the true glory of the Lord.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 01:58:28 pm »

I think that God exists but likes to torture us for the hell of it.

Nah there's a reason, even if we are still trying to figure it all out.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2012, 02:22:55 pm »

If there is a reason for it, why is it that everyone has a different answer?  Nobody knows what the reason is. And, absence of evidence is not evidence.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2012, 09:47:16 pm »

The meaning of existence is to lead a good clean life, stay clear of hedonism, vote for faith-based candidates, and then, when it is all over with, God may well take you into his bosom.  Only then will; you know the true glory of the Lord.
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2012, 04:20:58 pm »

What if we like to lead a dirty life and think that Republicans are a bunch of goons?
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2012, 05:34:21 pm »

I'll drink to that, Krista.
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