the Origins of Love

[Jeannette Latoria]

Jean, I'm curious.

Do you beleive that men cheat out of selfishness or out of instict?

I think that guys cheat out of instinct, but to the woman they are cheating on, it comes across as selfish. We are many evolutionary stages removed from the animal!  Some of us, that is.

[Volitzer]

No, dissatisfaction.

When there's unfulfillment with either gender cheating seems tempting.

[HereForNow]

You know, just typing flirty things is just as exciting when they respond to it the same.
Imagining anything can be fun.

As I stated before, to be with someone besides my wife means that I would have to decide right there and then to end my marriage and move on from there. I do not want to be the reason behind a broken heart and/or soul. I'm stuck and thats it for me. 

Fortunately, my wife and I have always been friends and we do enjoy our time together that way.
When I get down to it, everything is pretty good all around. I am tempted from one time to another, but it doesn't start with sex or touching. It's usually someone who stimulates me emotionally, and mentally that I have trouble saying no to. I like knowing a lover for who she really is and like-wise for her to know me the same. This way, love can happen and it's for the right reasons...

Another real turn on for me is confidence and strife.
"If you are it, be it"

One thing I can say on my own behalf is that I'm alot happier now that I'm getting to know myself better.
I'm finally able to say that I can be independant if I had to be. My shoulders are broader and my cross is lighter.
This was all possible as a result of me making the mistakes I have and learning from them instead of repeating them.
This is conditional ofcourse.

[HereForNow]

  I'm not going to say alot on this;

Years ago, I would have sold my soul to the devil to know true love.
After I did, it changed me.

Now in order to live what can't I do?
 


Imagine if this were true...

[Volitzer]

With NY such a horrible dating environment.  Thankfully I'll never know temptation now that I got my eHarmony sweetie.  That and she has seen just how pathetic it is up here as well.

[Jeannette Latoria]

As I stated before, to be with someone besides my wife means that I would have to decide right there and then to end my marriage and move on from there. I do not want to be the reason behind a broken heart and/or soul. I'm stuck and thats it for me. 

Not neccessarily, either you could do it surreptitiously (with the knowledge that it is only a temporary thing), or you could let her know, and do it with her approval.

I'm curious, what is it that attracts you to a woman so much to want to have an affair with her, her looks, intellect, or just the prospect of getting laid?  Some people cheat because they genuinely feel trapped and are looking for love, others are just dogs and will do it with anything.

[Jeannette Latoria]

With NY such a horrible dating environment.  Thankfully I'll never know temptation now that I got my eHarmony sweetie.  That and she has seen just how pathetic it is up here as well.

Did you ever think of moving, Volitzer?

[Volitzer]

Yep.  Right to Florida right by my eHarmony sweetie.   

[HereForNow]

Florida isn't a bad place to visit. Thing is Volitzer, if you end up down there and things don't work out what are you going to attribute to this failure of compatiblity?

Do you have a plan B if something doesn't work out?
I will never discourage anyone from expanding their horizons sort of speak.
However, I wouldn't make the move until I have had a chance to see what I'm getting into first.
All the way around, I mean. I would hate to see you end up like a friend of mine did, and go all that way for something that your not a 100% sure is even the way it seems. Are you positive she is who she seems to be? If your sure then you better run to her dude. If you have to think twice about it, you might be better off waiting. Just being honest. It seems your sincere about how you feel for her. I hate to see anyone get hurt over empty promices, and fantasies unfulfilled. I'm sure you know where I'm coming from on this though.

And P.S. I'm not attracted to men in no way shape or form...
LOL
I love women, all the way around but not enough to be one.
I like my adams apple!
 

Enough with that metro-sexual stuff as you put it. I'm sure Trent and I are both very content with female interaction as the men we are. Speaking for myself, I'm content with compromise and understanding.

[Jeannette Latoria]

Yep.  Right to Florida right by my eHarmony sweetie.   

You mean you guys each live in different parts of the country?  How do you know you guys are compatabile unless you see one another on a daily basis?

[Jeannette Latoria]

And P.S. I'm not attracted to men in no way shape or form...
LOL

That's great, HFN, most women would prefer to have guys attracted to them as opposed to each other. At the very least, it's easier to tell where you stand with someone.

[Volitzer]

Yep.  Right to Florida right by my eHarmony sweetie.   

You mean you guys each live in different parts of the country?  How do you know you guys are compatabile unless you see one another on a daily basis?

We've been seeing each other off and on for about a year now.

That and we talk on the phone daily.

[HereForNow]

And P.S. I'm not attracted to men in no way shape or form...
LOL

That's great, HFN, most women would prefer to have guys attracted to them as opposed to each other. At the very least, it's easier to tell where you stand with someone.

Well yeah...
It also makes love making alot less complicated too. 
Atleast I don't have to worry about which one of us is going to play the guy.
  Eww...

(playful sarcasm)

I've got one for ya Jean.
Ever hear of the P.L.U.R. among the 60's hippies that is still ongoing today?
Check into it sometime. It's one of those things that I know alot of the people here can relate too.  And you don't have to do acid or smoke pot to participate. You just have to be different and expressive.

It's a cool read if you get the chance to look it up.
I don't know you all that well yet, but you come across as a very open minded person.
Just figured I'd run it by you.

[HereForNow]

Here is something I thought was romantic, yet sad.
It was touching to say the least. Based on a true story.  (Author Unknown)

A Long Distant Love Affair
http://www.astorytoshare.com/lovestory.php?id=1087
I still remember her that captured my heart, my first love and high school sweetheart.

Happiness was abundant when we shared and planned our lives together. But eventually she left while I served my
country in Vietnam. It was tragedy to the highest order to lose a first love coupled with war, these side by side experiences brought.

To remedy my heart and mind, I entered into a loveless marriage
that was never harmonious but only for convience, my convience. It lasted for many years surprisingly but it too fell into the depths of hell.

Fate continued to tortured me into other dead-end relatonships where I was convinced I would never find happiness again until one fateful Sunday morning in a news paper ad I seen a
pen-pal ad from overseas women wanting to correspond with American men. What the heck I said, it can't do no harm to play along with them, so I did. I selected a few, found a writing pad and started writing.

A week later letters came streaming in and I found only one that caught my taste and her name was Lilian.

It started out casually, with the usual introduction about family, past relationships and any experiences up to our meeting. But for some reason, our penpal relationship from the start seem to be closer than usual that got even closer with
each succeding letter. In one letter she relates, I have God in my heart that almost got me in becommig a nun after losing my first love to marriage to someone else! But I becames stronger and decided instead to work abroad to get away from him. We had similar love lost but to my surprise, she handled her heart differently by not entering into any more relationships.

Our letters were a routine duty we did for each other and after many months, we were madly in love. The difference however from previous relationships was our love affair was of the heart only. We never met, shared intimate moments, or even a kiss. It was strictly a love affair of the heart.

After more than two years of being a long distant love affair, we finally met, got married and shared our first kiss and first intimate moments together. And though we were physically strangers, our heart and mind were already one. It was not our first love but it felt much better. Many cherish the carnal aspect of a relationship but for us we remained faithful and celibate while we remained apart.

It's been twenty two years now and we are still deeply in love and we can vividly remember our long distant but unique love affair made in Heaven!

[unknown]

Hi Here for Now


Thank you for sharing that,  it was deeply moving story...