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« on: December 02, 2011, 03:59:37 pm »

Senate bill 1867 would allow U.S. military to detain and murder anti-government protesters


Mike Adams
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Friday, December 2, 2011

(NaturalNews) I don’t know if you’re all getting this through your heads yet, but Senate Bill 1867 –the National Defense Authorization Act– would openly “legalize” the U.S. government’s detainment and murder of OWS protesters and the assassination of talk show hosts, bloggers, journalists and anyone who holds a so-called “anti-government” point of view. This is the open and blatant declaration of war against any who do not going along with TSA thugs reaching down your pants, the Goldman Sachs economic takeover of nations, the secret arrest and torture of American citizens, and other acts of outright tyranny waged by an out-of-control government.

Those who have been burying their heads in the sand over the coming police state need to wake up and face the music. That U.S. Senators would knowingly and willfully attempt to pass a bill thatlegalizesthe indefinite detainment, torture and killing of American citizens with no due process whatsoever — and on American soil! — is nothing less than a traitorous betrayal of the once-free American people. These are, our founding fathers would have said,acts of waragainst the People. They reveal the insidious plan to put in place a legal framework to end the Bill of Rights, murder protesters, and overrun America with total police state brutality.

And yet the sheeple are still asleeple

I grow weary of trying to warn the American people to wake up and see what is now right in front of their eyes, so for those who want to read these words themselves — right in the Senate bill — you can read it at: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query

And YES, it has now been confirmed that the indefinite detainment and murder provisions do apply to American citizens on the streets of American cities. As Sen. Lindsey Graham explained in plain language on the Senate floor: “…1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the homeland.”

That means America, for those of you who are still wondering what “homeland” means. It’s a phrase borrowed from Nazi Germany, of course, which is the source of much of this legislation as you might have noticed.

“The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself,” says the ACLU (http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-s…).

Homefront: The U.S. government’s war against the People

If this bill passes and is signed into law, it would mean that America’s war machine could then be turned against the American people – liberal, conservative, libertarian… it doesn’t matter. If you question the government, you are suddenly an “enemy combatant” and they will cite this law as the legal justification for putting a bullet in your head, fire-bombing your little protest group, or literally running over you and your buddies with tanks. (And they won’t stop like China did in Tiananmen Square when that one brave citizen stood up against tyranny there in 1989.) (…)

The premeditate murder of U.S. protesters (Occupy Wall Street, anyone?) is now being codified into law as the government’s “right.” Of course, your rights to Free Speech, due process, owning a firearm and other rights are being obliterated in the process. Only the government has “rights” now, didn’t you know? Theslavesof the nation (i.e. the citizens) are being stripped of all rights, including the right to grow your own food, have a picnic or even buy fresh dairy products from a farmer.

Governments routinely murder far more people than terrorists

Right now, every history teacher in America should be absolutely outraged about all this, as they know what always comes next in the history of nations. Once any government “legalizes” the murder of its own citizens, it is inevitably followed by a mass-murder holocaust-style event.

Tyrants, you see, always like to “legalize” their mass murder before they pull the trigger. Just read the history of Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao and others. In every case, they worked diligently to put into place a legal framework for the mass murder that was about to be unleashes on their own citizens. That legal framework looks strikingly similar to Senate Bill 1867, which is about to be passed.

This also brings to mind the mathematical reality that, statistically speaking, governments are orders of magnitude more deadly than terrorists. While terrorists sometimes success in taking out a fewthousandpeople at a time, governments routinely murder tens of MILLIONS of people.

It’s called GENOCIDE, and there’s a long and well-documented history of how governments have committed genocide year after year, one nation after another:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoci

See more statistics at:
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/di

So if the People of America had any courage at all, they would be running the People’s road blocks and searching government vehicles for weapons! It is the government agents, after all, who are statistically at the highest risk of engaging in mass murder, and very soon the U.S. Senate looks likely to effectivelylegalize that mass murder.

At the airports, We the People should be searching the TSA employees and checking them for illegal drugs, child pornography and stolen electronics. At government buildings, We the People should be searching all the government employees who come and go to make sure they don’t stage the demolition of their own buildings as a way to blame whatever convenient enemy they want to discredit — patriots, conservatives, “conspiracy theorists” or what have you.

It’s no longer a conspiracy theory, you see, that the government wants to have the legal right to openly murder U.S. citizens right on the streets of America. It’s written right into the Senate bill. It’s public record. So all those out there still clinging to their pathetic denialist “conspiracy theorists” rants can now clamp shut their pie holes and throw themselves off a cliff or something. It’s time to face the reality of the total police state tyranny that’s now written in black and white, plain as day.

All of you who are still obsessed with your narrow world view of fashion, dancing with the stars, microwaveable processed food and fake mainstream news are about to be rocked out of your easy chairs and dumped into the cesspool of tyranny at your doorstep. Just know that when they come for you, there will be nobody left to speak for you, because you remained silent as all this was rolled out. And I won’t be there for you, either, because I’ll be holed up in Texas, handing out emergency food supplies to the local churches and performing emergency medicine procedures on those protesters wounded by U.S. government military attacks — the ones that are still alive, anyway.

You think none of this is coming? Why would the U.S. Senate write this into law if they didn’t intend on using it to murder Americans? Maybe you need to clear the cobwebs out of your head and open your eyes to what’s really happening right now in the U.S. Senate.

Read between the lines, folks. It’s not that difficult to get the full picture here. The very idea that the U.S. Senate is evenconsideringsuch a law to “legalize” the detainment and murder of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil by U.S. troops is, all by itself, a complete and utter crime against the American people.

The U.S. Senate is about to declare WAR on the American people. And I don’t mean that metaphorically. They are trying to make this a military war where anyone who opposes the U.S. government — even if they have nothing at all to do with “terrorism” — is now a fair game target for precision bombings, assassinations and heavy military armor (i.e. tanks rolling down your driveway).

Some good news: Congressman Dennis Kucinich has publicly spoken out against the bill (even though he’s not in the Senate). So has Sen. Rand Paul. His father, Ron Paul, has also stated his opposition to the illegal detainment provision of the bill. There are hints that if the bill passes, President Obama may veto it. If he did, that would be one of the most profound freedom-protecting actions of his administration, but don’t hold your breath on that count. You never know what these politicians will do when they think they have the power to murder their own citizens — they’re drunk with power, after all, and they love to rule over the masses with a kind of devilish insanity. Remember: Obama already has a “kill list” of Americans to be murdered overseas, but this new Senate Bill 1867 would legalize that right on U.S. soil.

So one day you call in to talk radio and express your discontent with the President, let’s say, and the next day a U.S. marine scout sniper sets up his .338 sniper rifle a couple hundred yards from your house, waits for you to sit down to watch Anderson Cooper vomit out the evening’s news propaganda, and then he pulls the trigger and blows your neck off, causing your head to land smack dab in that bowl of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese you were just trying to shovel down your threat because someone told you it was “food.” This will all be LEGAL under the new Senate bill 1867 because they will claim you were a “terrorist collaborator” who questioned the wisdom of the executive leadership of America. Once due process is stripped away,anythingcan be justified by the government, including the open murder of its own citizens.

This is the whole point of a nation of LAW. The laws describe specific legal rights afforded to citizens, but most importantly they describe the LIMITS of power of government. It is those limits that the government is now trying to completely obliterate, turning America into a complete military dictatorship / fascist nation where laws are only applied to the People, not to the government itself. These are practically the exact words recently uttered by Newt Gingrich during a recent debate, in which he said due process and the Bill of Rights should only apply to people who engage in common criminal acts such as stealing or robbing people. But no such rights or due process privileges should exist when there is a “war” going on, Gingrich insisted! And the U.S. Senate is about to declare the entire USA “homeland” to be a battlefield of a never-ending war, get it?

Are you grokking all this yet? These tyrants are about to declare the entire USA a battlefield where NO ONE has any due process, no Bill of Rights, no protections under any law, nothing! And if Gingrich becomes President — oh my God please don’t let this happen — then we are looking at the runaway militarization of everything in America, including a huge ramping up of the so-called “war on drugs” which we’ve already exposed as a total failure and a complete hoax (http://www.naturalnews.com/034289_A…).

If this bill passes and is signed into law by the President, the USA is officially at war with its own People, and you can expect the government will immediately begin staging false flag bombings so they can justify a multi-year campaign of total genocide against all who refuse to cower down to the (now admitted) anti-freedom tyrants in Washington.

We are on the verge of losing America, my friends. I ask: What the hell are YOU going to do about it?

Here’s the list of traitors in the U.S. Senate who have supported this bill:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/occupied-america-senate-bill-1867-would-allow-u-s-military-to-detain-and-murder-anti-government-protesters-in-american-cities.html
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 06:43:27 pm »

Section 1031 DOES NOT give the right to the government to kill U.S citizens!   Roll Eyes
Your gullibility truly has no ends.  You'll believe any crap Alex Jones pours into your empty heads.  And like Oliver you'll always says, "Please sir, I'd like some more."
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 01:33:24 am »

Volitzer is full of crap, as usual!  In the first place, these are changes that the Senate is trying to make to our 'war on terror' so they can try and micromanage the war.  They are NOT changes that Obama requested and his administration has even said they would veto the bill if the changes are in there.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 02:44:13 pm »

Right no bankster tyranny here, just more TSA Security at airports, then to schools, then to malls then public streets, Marines helping cops stopping drunk driving... total violation of posse-comitatus.

No... no incremental tyranny here.   Roll Eyes

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 02:47:30 pm »

Senate Bill Would Have Allowed Americans to be Detained Even After They Had Been Found Innocent


       

Amendment even worse than Section 1031 narrowly defeated

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Friday, December 2, 2011

Forget guilty until proven innocent, this was a case of guilty even after proven innocent.


The Senate last night attempted to pass an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act that would have allowed Americans to be detained even if they had been found not guilty by a trial.

Although the fact that indefinite detention without trial has now been codified into law by way of Section 1031 of the National Defense Authorization Act, an attempt was made at the last minute to fast-track an even more horrifying amendment into the NDAA bill via a voice vote.

Amendment No. 1274 would have given the federal government the power to detain U.S. citizens until Congress declared the ‘war on terror’ over, which we have been told is a never-ending multi-generational conflict. The provision also gave the feds the power to keep an American incarcerated even if they were tried and found not guilty.

Thankfully, Republican Senator Rand Paul discovered the provision and was able to request a last ditch roll call vote. The amendment was eventually defeated by a worryingly narrow final vote of 41-59.

Forget Kafkaesque, the very fact that the Senate even attempted to enact a law that would put the likes of Stalinist North Korea to shame speaks volumes about the contempt that lawmakers have for the bill of rights.

Read the full press release from Campaign For Liberty below.

SPRINGFIELD, Virginia – On Thursday night, Senator Rand Paul blocked passage of an amendment that would have allowed the government to indefinitely detain American citizens until Congress declares the War on Terror to be over. These Americans would be detained even if they were tried and found not guilty.

An attempt was made to pass Amendment No. 1274 to the National Defense Authorization Act (S. 1867) by voice vote, but Senator Paul’s objection and request for a roll call vote ultimately led to the bill’s defeat by a final vote of 41-59.

“Campaign for Liberty is proud to stand with Rand Paul as he continues to fight for our liberties against the federal government’s lust to increase its police state powers,” said Matt Hawes, Vice President of Campaign for Liberty.

“The American people should not be forced to sacrifice their fundamental values, like the right to one’s day in court and fair treatment, just so politicians can keep pretending they are making us safer.

“It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to picture how furious the Founders would be that any American, especially one who has been found innocent of the charges, could be held indefinitely by officials sworn to uphold the Constitution.”

Earlier this year, Campaign for Liberty worked with Senator Paul to combat the extension of controversial provisions of the Patriot Act and the IRTPA, and the organization will continue mobilizing its over half a million members to support such efforts to defend the American people’s civil liberties.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/senate-bill-would-have-allowed-americans-to-be-detained-even-after-they-had-been-found-innocent.html
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 02:52:58 pm »

U.S. Says Americans Are MILITARY Targets in the War on Terror … And Says that Only the White House – and Not the Courts – Gets to Decide Who Is a Legitimate Target
       

Washington’s Blog
December 2, 2011

As everyone realizes by now, Congress’ push for indefinite detention includes American citizens on American soil. As Huffington post notes:
The debate also has left many Americans scratching their heads as to whether Congress is actually attempting to authorize the indefinite detention of Americans by the military without charges. But proponents — led by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Carl Levin (D-Mich.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee — say that is exactly what the war on terror requires. They argued that the bill simply codifies precedents set by the Supreme Court and removes uncertainty, which they said would better protect the country.

Here is John McCain justifying sending Americans to Guantanamo:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/u-s-says-americans-are-military-targets-in-the-war-on-terror-%e2%80%a6-and-says-that-only-the-white-house-%e2%80%93-and-not-the-courts-%e2%80%93-gets-to-decide-who-is-a-legitimate-target.html
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 05:04:44 pm »

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Like I said, the addition to the bill was the Senate's idea, you know, guys like John McCain, REPUBLICAN Senators who want to carry on where Bush left off?  Obama has vowed to veto it. So much disinformation!  It is a shame that people like you are more interesting in spreading right wing propaganda as opposed to actually improving your country!

You live in Florida, right?  You mean you have no interest in fighting back over right wing felon Rick Scott's policies down there?  Not one word about him since the election, it's all about imaginary plots from prisonplanet.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 05:17:42 pm »

If a U.S. citizen or citizens plots a terrorist act against the American people your damn right they should be sent off to Guantanamo.  You and your moron friends at prisonplant make it out to sound that anyone can be picked up by the F.B.I. or whoever.  Which is complete and utter nonsense. 
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2011, 03:38:50 pm »

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Like I said, the addition to the bill was the Senate's idea, you know, guys like John McCain, REPUBLICAN Senators who want to carry on where Bush left off?  Obama has vowed to veto it. So much disinformation!  It is a shame that people like you are more interesting in spreading right wing propaganda as opposed to actually improving your country!

Well according to Obama he has executive power and can override the Congress.

You live in Florida, right?  You mean you have no interest in fighting back over right wing felon Rick Scott's policies down there?  Not one word about him since the election, it's all about imaginary plots from prisonplanet.

I have posted a few things about Rick Scott and Pam Bondi firing lawyers who went after banks that foreclose on people illegally.  The Republicans here I know for sure will be tricked into following orders cuz of the love for the Navy here.

You can go to any library or any government office and register to vote, in fact they even ask when you enter a government office.  So if there is voter restriction going on down here I have yet to see it.  The bigger problem is people being to apolitical and wanting to go to the beach who won't see the Globalist threat.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 11:50:36 pm »

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Well according to Obama he has executive power and can override the Congress.

No, according to the Constitution, Congress can pass any damn bill it wants and the President can either sign it or veto it, got it?


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I have posted a few things about Rick Scott and Pam Bondi firing lawyers who went after banks that foreclose on people illegally.
 

Funny, I haven't seen any of that stuff from you here. Most of it has been about the Federal government, which doesn't affect you anywhere NEAR as much as your state government does.

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You can go to any library or any government office and register to vote, in fact they even ask when you enter a government office.  So if there is voter restriction going on down here I have yet to see it.

Maybe you have been missing the news around the country, but all these Republican controlled states have been passing Voter ID bills, disallowing student IDs, requiring birth certificates, the net effect of which is to disenfranchise young voters, older voters, students and minorities, all people who usually vote Democratic, not Republican/Corpocrat!
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 04:51:48 pm »

People who would vote Democratic never have any valid ID.  The voting office themselves are non-partisan, but they have to account for who votes.   Remember history and the whole stuffing the ballot box problem where in a town of 100 there would be 250 votes ?  The "so called" dis-enfranchised voters are usually not that interested in voting anyway.  Not that I am excusing Republican mis-deeds or discriminatory tactics but the problem of the dis-enfranchised is blown way out of proportion.  It happens yes.  However there has been a lot of elections fraud that people have gone to jail over.  The main reason they do this is cuz many illegals get drivers licenses so they need more than one form of valid ID to vote now.

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Funny, I haven't seen any of that stuff from you here. Most of it has been about the Federal government, which doesn't affect you anywhere NEAR as much as your state government does.

The Federal Government and the banks is where all the money originates from.  I wish the states would issue their own state script and tell the FED to go pound salt.  Florida Republicans just do what the money tells them to do regardless of morality and constitutionality.
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