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CERN Experiment Excludes 1 Error In Faster-Than-Light Finding

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« on: November 26, 2011, 10:42:34 pm »

CERN Experiment Excludes 1 Error In Faster-Than-Light Finding
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FRANK JORDANS   11/18/11 01:07 PM ET   Associated PressAP




GENEVA — The chances have risen that Einstein was wrong about a fundamental law of the universe.

Scientists at the world's biggest physics lab said Friday they have ruled out one possible error that could have distorted their startling measurements that appeared to show particles traveling faster than light.

Many physicists reacted with skepticism in September when measurements by French and Italian researchers seemed to show subatomic neutrino particles breaking what Nobel Prize-winning physicist Albert Einstein considered the ultimate speed barrier.

The European Organization for Nuclear Research said more precise testing has now confirmed the accuracy of at least one part of the experiment.

"One key test was to repeat the measurement with very short beam pulses," the Geneva-based organization, known by its French acronym CERN, said in a statement.

The test allowed scientists to check if the starting time for the neutrinos was being measured correctly before they were fired 454 miles (730 kilometers) underground from Geneva to a lab in Italy.

The results matched those from the previous test, "ruling out one potential source of systematic error," said CERN.

Still, scientists stressed that only independent measurements by labs elsewhere would allow them to declare that the results of their experiment were a genuine finding.

"A measurement so delicate and carrying a profound implication on physics requires an extraordinary level of scrutiny," said Fernando Ferroni, president of Italian Institute for Nuclear Physics. "The positive outcome of the test makes us more confident in the result, although a final word can only be said by analogous measurements performed elsewhere in the world."

According to Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity, nothing is meant to be able to go faster than the speed of light – 186,282 miles per second (299,792 kilometers per second).

But the researchers said in September that their neutrinos traveled 60 nanoseconds faster, when the margin of error in their experiment allowed for just 10 nanoseconds. A nanosecond is one-billionth of a second.
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 10:46:35 pm »


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15791236

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/47844
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2011, 10:47:34 pm »

Scientists in Italy say, "not so fast!"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/20/us-science-neutrinos-idUSTRE7AJ0ZX20111120
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Einstein's work disproved much of Newton's theories and yet we still utilize Newtonian physics for much of the engineerin­g that keeps our society running. Even if they manage to prove that sub-atomic or quantum particles can move faster than light they are still a very long way off from producing a set of standards to supersede Einstein's equations and the subsequent work that has been built on top of Einstein. If indeed they can ever turn this into a verifiable theory.

Also, before they can say that the particles are traveling faster than light they have to prove that their reference pulse isn't traveling slower that the accepted speed of light.
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