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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2011, 02:11:20 pm »

The point is Obama & the FED are worried.  So now they have the snitch-sites and the central bank taking on a cyber-spy role.

Ususally when dictators and other kakistocrats get exposed the first thing they do is go into a paranoid 'everyone's out to get' me mode.

So it doesn't surprise me Obama and Bernanke are in stasi mode.

What surprises me is that you think they are actually looking for "terrorists"... the CIA runs al Queda.

Do you and Tom Hebert work for ACORN or are a full time Democrat Staffer ?  If it's your job to find out what the masses know then you can tell your NWO supervisor that we know it all.  Their lies are falling apart, I know it, the US knows it, and the rest of the world knows it.

You may want to take your picture down and have Tom H change his online ID.  Having Globalist/Democrat connections will blacklist you in the future.
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 03:30:11 pm »

Yeah while Obama is trying for gun control in America the ATF is running guns into Mexico.  In essence helping the enemy in America's border war with Mexico.


Secret Recordings Emerge Over Operation Fast and Furious
       

….And the ATF’s conspiracy to put more guns into the hands of Mexican drug gangs

Mike Adams
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Sept 20, 2011


You just gotta love the audacity of the U.S. federal government and its active staging of crimes in order to achieve political goals. Operation Fast and Furious is the most recent example of a U.S.-run criminal conspiracy pursued for the ultimate purpose of dismantling the Bill of Rights. It involved ATF agents running a criminal scheme that sold literallytens of thousands of gunsto Mexican drug gangs, after which the government planned to call for “gun sales restrictions” following the wave of gun violence that would inevitably result.

There was only one problem with the government’s evil plan, however — some ATF agents blew the whistle, and then the whole conspiracy exploded in their faces. Now even the mainstream media — which usually won’t touch government conspiracies — is all over Operation Fast and Furious. Heck, the LA Times even has an entire special section dedicated to it, and the paper is actually producing some decent stories on the subject:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw…

One of their newest stories reports, “Top Mexican officials say the U.S. kept them in the dark. One official was stunned to learn that the cartel hit men who killed her brother had assault rifles from Fast and Furious in their arsenal.” (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw…)

And for all those who say they don’t believe in “conspiracy theories,” well, it turns out they were all just naive, as usual. Here’s a conspiracy fact right in your face — and the government has now been forced to admit to it!

Even CBS is breaking some of the news on all this, including publicizing newly-released secret audio tapes that reveal Agent MacAllister and Howard (the gun dealer) expressing concern that “…whistleblower ATF special agent John Dodson has further evidence that could be damaging to the government.” (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_1…)

This is total government criminality caught in action, folks. And if you really want the whole story on Operation Fast and Furious, read up on InfoWars.com:
http://www.infowars.com/insider-cia

The mainstream media bought into the cover story

What’s clear about Operation Fast and Furious is that it involved not only the ATF but also the White House. The LA Times and other mainstream media papers are incorrectly reporting it as a “failed sting operation,” but that’s just the cover story. In reality, Operation Fast and Furious was a raging success! It achieved its stated goal which was placing thousands of rifles and pistols into the hands of Mexican drug gangs, then hoping enough violence would spill over into the USA that the American people would call for gun sales restrictions.

Whether you admire the Second Amendment or not, you’ve got to admit this is a particularly insidious conspiracy because it has the government directly promoting sales of weapons to criminals. Normally when you walk into a gun store, you can’t buy a weapon without passing an FBI background check. So there’s a safety mechanism in place to prevent guns from being purchased by felons or non-citizens. But in this conspiracy operation, the ATF specifically told gun store owners (such as Lone Wolf in Arizona) to sell guns to criminals even if they didn’t pass the background checks. This is just one example of how the U.S. federal government has become a criminal organization that promotes gun violence in America.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Remember the conventional cover story for all this? That the guns were going to be “tracked” to see where they ended up?

There’s just one problem with this whole story: There were no tracking devices installed on any of the guns being sold to criminals. Thus, the whole idea of tracking these guns is ludicrous, and the government’s official cover story falls apart (yet again). The purpose of Fast and Furious wasn’t to TRACK guns but to ARM CRIMINALS and then hope enough bodies would pile up that the government could call for restrictions against the Second Amendment.

In fact, even though the government has been caught red handed in this operation, it has already begun to roll out the gun sales restrictions it planned all along! Documents acquired by InfoWars (and also separately by NaturalNews) reveal that gun shops throughout Arizona, New Mexico and Texas have been ordered by the ATF to report any sale of more than one rifle or pistol to any single person. Thus, even though the FBI already runs background checks on purchasers of firearms, the ATF is now creating a second layer of burdensome paperwork on many sales of firearms. Importantly, this addsno additional background check securityto the gun purchasing process, which is already subjected to FBI approval anyway. Even worse, this entire process is being done completely outside the law, using solely the regulatory bullying of the ATF itself — the very same agency that is technically a rogue government agency steeped in criminal behavior.

A lawless government

Did you ever notice how the federal government never faces any consequences when it breaks the law, but if you or I sold guns to Mexican drug criminals, we’d be facing decades in prison? As we’ve all seen from numerous examples, the government today is a lawless, criminal gang that breaks its own laws with impunity.

We now know that the U.S. government staged the 9/11 terror attacks and brought down the WTC 7 building using planned demolition charges. This isn’t even questioned by any rational person anymore, as thousands of architects and engineers have gone public in stating that WTC 7 was, without question, a demolition job (http://www.ae911truth.org). We also know that the government conspired to put tens of thousands of weapons directly into the hands of criminal drug gangs. Time and time again, the federal government actively plots to break the law in order to crush freedom and usurp power. Yet the mainstream media largely doesn’t cover any of this, and the mainstream sheeple of America are for the most part too dumbed-down to even believe what’s really happening.

There’s no telling what the government is planning and plotting right now in its evil scheme to destroy our civil rights and unleash a total police state in America. What Operation Fast and Furious really proves is that the U.S. federal government will openly endanger innocent lives and break any laws it wants in pursuit of crushing freedom in America.

It’s not even about the guns, you see. It’s about thetacticsthat the U.S. government now uses to achieve its political aims. Rather than going to the People and asking for their rational views on security versus freedom, the government stages its own catastrophes and crimes in order to get people to REACT so that freedoms can then be stolen from everyone.

Isn’t that what “the terrorists” were accused of doing? Remember when George Bush said that terrorists targeted America because “they hate freedom”? But it turns out the real haters of freedom are the rogue agents within the federal government itself. The real roots of modern-day terrorism, it seems, are more easily found in Washington D.C. than Iraq or Syria.

We were just following orders, sir

Are there good agents in the federal government? Absolutely there are. It was ATF agents who blew the whistle on the ATF conspiracy in the first place. There are FBI agents who do good work to help protect America from legitimate threats. At every level of law enforcement, there are men and women who put their lives on the line with great courage and a real sense of duty. Yet sadly, there are just as many government agents who are ready and willing to commit serious crimes as long as they are told to do so. They make no distinction between good or bad and merely “follow orders.”

That’s how we ended up with Operation Fast and Furious, which was no doubt the brainchild of a bunch of gun haters at the White House who decided it was somehow okay for them to break the law as long as they were wrongfully framing (and blaming) gun shops. In their minds, you see, the ends justify the means, so they believe they can commit any and all crimes necessary to achieve their final goal, which might have nothing at all to do with guns. It might be a goal of crushing the raw dairy industry or keeping hemp illegal. Or even outlawing home gardens.

There’s no telling what our federal government will do next in its out-of-control desire to crush freedom and destroy our rights. It could stage its own terrorist attacks, unleash bombs in major U.S. cities, poison the water supply or even stage the deaths of U.S. Navy Seal Team members… and it would do it all with a straight face, claiming to be “protecting America” even though it is destroying America from the inside out. (http://www.naturalnews.com/033545_g…)

This is why Big Government is so inherently dangerous. When it becomes so large and powerful that it can run criminal conspiracies with impunity, it’s only a matter of time before the government itselfbecomes the enemy of freedomand spends more time figuring out how to destroy the nation than protecting it.

See the related CounterThink cartoon on all this at:

http://counterthink.com/Fast_and_Furious.asp




Obama wants to disarm you get it now.  It was never about making America safer.

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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 12:30:51 am »

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The point is Obama & the FED are worried.  So now they have the snitch-sites and the central bank taking on a cyber-spy role.

The "snitch" sites you are talking about are places to report political smears, like he was born in Kenya or that Obama is operating "FEMA" Camps. Or do you think that people should be able to make up any crap they want about a politician just cause he doesn't support theIR big business agenda?


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What surprises me is that you think they are actually looking for "terrorists"... the CIA runs al Queda.

There's some paranoia for you!

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Do you and Tom Hebert work for ACORN or are a full time Democrat Staffer ?

Uh, ACORN is shut down, all cause the Repugs don't like organizations that help poor people register to vote!  They are all about voter suppression.
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You may want to take your picture down and have Tom H change his online ID.  Having Globalist/Democrat connections will blacklist you in the future.

If I a "blacklisted," I would wear that as a badge of honor. Better to be known as that than a conspiracy minded corporatist who does the bidding of the big corporations in screwing ordinary people like you do.
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2011, 04:56:51 pm »

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The "snitch" sites you are talking about are places to report political smears, like he was born in Kenya or that Obama is operating "FEMA" Camps. Or do you think that people should be able to make up any crap they want about a politician just cause he doesn't support theIR big business agenda?

Sounds very anti-1st Amendment.  You'd think a Constitutional Scholar wouldn't think like a dictator.

Uh, ACORN is shut down, all cause the Repugs don't like organizations that help poor people register to vote!  They are all about voter suppression.

Will duh the red-Globalist party is for the rich.

If I a "blacklisted," I would wear that as a badge of honor. Better to be known as that than a conspiracy minded corporatist who does the bidding of the big corporations in screwing ordinary people like you do.

  Conspiracy Minded Corporatist...   Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked  this is a contradiction in terms.  It is the corporations that conspire.  Looks like they messed up on that talking point.  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 11:34:23 pm »

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Sounds very anti-1st Amendment.  You'd think a Constitutional Scholar wouldn't think like a dictator.

Just because we have free speech doesn't mean people aren't free to dispute what people say. He's a politician, so you think he's not allowed to fight back against political attacks?  Bright.

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Will duh the red-Globalist party is for the rich.

As are the policies of the Constitution and Libertarian Parties.  By stating that they want to eliminate Social Security and Medicare, they help the rich by default.

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  Conspiracy Minded Corporatist...   Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked  this is a contradiction in terms.  It is the corporations that conspire.  Looks like they messed up on that talking point.  Wink

You don't think that the corporations don't conspire to do things?  What about the organization ALEC that tried to pass the same anti-collective bargaining act simultaneously in six states this year?  Dude, corporations RUN this country.
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2011, 06:15:00 pm »

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Just because we have free speech doesn't mean people aren't free to dispute what people say. He's a politician, so you think he's not allowed to fight back against political attacks?  Bright.

..and just what does Obama plan on doing with Attack-Watch ?  Will he call the cops in my area to arrest me for doubting his citizenship.  You didn't see Ron Paul supporters get all stasi when gulliberals found a KKK publication mentioning him.

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Will duh the red-Globalist party is for the rich.

As are the policies of the Constitution and Libertarian Parties.  By stating that they want to eliminate Social Security and Medicare, they help the rich by default.

They do not want to eliminate Social-Security, & Medicare.  Any party that does is dooming themselves to failure.  Just like the Republicans had in the 1990s.

You don't think that the corporations don't conspire to do things?  What about the organization ALEC that tried to pass the same anti-collective bargaining act simultaneously in six states this year?  Dude, corporations RUN this country.

Of course they do, that's Globalism for you, eliminate collective bargining.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2011, 03:44:18 pm »

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..and just what does Obama plan on doing with Attack-Watch ? 


Post a counter-website where people can find out the truth.  Same thing he had last campaign.

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Will he call the cops in my area to arrest me for doubting his citizenship.


He doesn't need to do that, for the simple reason that the only people who are birthers are bigots and conspiracy theorists.

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You didn't see Ron Paul supporters get all stasi when gulliberals found a KKK publication mentioning him.

I suppose you are talking about that newsletter that Ron Paul founded that bashed blacks back in the 1990s.  So liberals were supposed to have been responsible for that?  Bright.

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They (Constitution and Libertarian Parties) do not want to eliminate Social-Security, & Medicare.  Any party that does is dooming themselves to failure.  Just like the Republicans had in the 1990s.

No, you may not want to eliminate them.  They are fine with it.
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