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« on: August 26, 2011, 01:25:43 am »

African politicians seem to have another view of the motives and ethics of our libyan war-theatre:




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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2011, 09:28:44 pm »

Yeah, and also don't forget about how great Qadaffi's motive and ethics were, especially when it came to blowing Pan Am 103 out of the air and killing all those 259 innocent civilians, blowing the crap out of them so all there were left were body parts to bury:

Crash Scene - Pan Am 103 Explosion - Lockerbie

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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2011, 09:31:22 pm »

Great guy, Qadaffi was!  A real humanitarian.  Tell that to the families of Pan Am 103.

The bastard is getting what he deserved and Libya will be better off without him, too.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2011, 08:03:36 pm »

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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2011, 02:43:15 pm »

This guy is confirming what Alex Jones has been saying.

Libya and Africa are trying to establish their own currency and the Globalists aren't having it.

So in essence Obama is keeping the Africans on the IMF debt slavery system.
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2011, 02:44:48 pm »

Great guy, Qadaffi was!  A real humanitarian.  Tell that to the families of Pan Am 103.

The bastard is getting what he deserved and Libya will be better off without him, too.

Or it could have been an American false-flag operation too.  For all we know.  We know how the kakistocratic elements in the USA Government operate.   Cool
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2011, 11:01:16 pm »

I just love the way you two are shedding tears about Qadaffi and the Libyan people (who he basically stole all of Libya's oil money from to keep them poor while he lived in extreme wealth).

The guy was a sponsor of terrorism, he wanted a nuke, he would have nuked America if he had the chance, and he had 259 innocent civilians blown up on Pan Am 103 over Lockerbee.

Who cares if NATO went in cause they wanted to recoup their oil money? The guy was a murderer and deserved to be tossed out of power.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 02:38:07 am »

PHR: Libya troops held civilians as human shields

Aug 30, 12:41 AM (ET)

By PETER JAMES SPIELMANN


NEW YORK (AP) - Libyan troops loyal to Moammar Gadhafi forced civilians to act as human shields, perching children on tanks to deter NATO attacks, human rights investigators said. It was part of a pattern of rapes, slayings, "disappearances" and other war crimes that they said they found.

Physicians for Human Rights was able to get a team of interviewers into the embattled city of Misrata from June 5-12, just after Libyan rebel forces expelled Gadhafi's loyalists.

Interviewing dozens of survivors of the two-month siege, the Boston-based PHR found widespread evidence of crimes against humanity and war crimes, including summary slayings, hostage-taking, rapes, beatings, and use of mosques, schools and marketplaces as weapons depots.

"Four eyewitnesses reported that (Gadhafi) troops forcibly detained 107 civilians and used them as human shields to guard military munitions from NATO attacks south of Misrata," said the report, which was released Tuesday.
"One father told PHR how (Gadhafi) soldiers forced his two young children to sit on a military tank and threatened the family: 'You'll stay here, and if NATO attacks us, you'll die, too.'"

PHR obtained copies of military orders as evidence that Gadhafi ordered his troops to starve civilians in Misrata, while pillaging food caches and barring locals from receiving humanitarian aid.

**** was also "a weapon of war," Richard Sollom, the lead author of PHR's report, told the Associated Press on Monday. While he said no one has evidence to prove that **** was widespread, the fear of it certainly was, he said.

And it had deadly consequences in the form of "honor killings" of **** victims by their shamed family members.

"One witness reported that (Gadhafi) forces transformed an elementary school into a detention site where they reportedly raped women and girls as young as 14 years old," the PHR report said. It added that it had found no evidence to confirm or deny reports that Gadhafi troops and loyalists were issued ****-type drugs to sustain their systematic rapes.

The school where the rapes were said to have taken place was in Tomina, near Misrata, PHR said.

In at least one instance, PHR reported, three sisters -- ages 15, 17 and 18 -- were raped at Tomina, and their father subsequently slit their throats as an "honor killing" to lift the shame from his family.

PHR also noted that "some in Tomina have stood up against this practice, including a well-known sheik who has publicly advocated for raped women and girls to be seen as brave and bringing honor to their families."

Physicians for Human Rights only investigated the abuses committed by Gadhafi forces. The timing of their visit, and its focus on Misrata, meant that PHR was not in a position to comment on allegations of rights violations by the Libyan rebels or by NATO, the group said.

However, PHR urged the rebel National Transitional Council to enforce law and order, suppress vigilantism, and hold all right violators responsible and prevent them from occupying positions of power.

It said NATO should investigate any credible claims made against the allied force that supported the rebels, largely through thousands of bombing sorties.

PHR particularly raised the issue of medical neutrality in war time, accusing the Gadhafi forces of attacking hospitals, clinics and ambulances, and preventing doctors from reaching or treating injured civilians.

Last week, the New York-based Human Rights Watch said it had collected evidence that "strongly suggests that Gadhafi government forces went on a spate of arbitrary killing as Tripoli was falling."

Meanwhile, Amnesty International, which is based in London, also accused pro-Gadhafi guards of raping child detainees, but added that Libyan rebels are abusing children and holding migrant workers as prisoners.

All three major human rights groups have called on both sides to respect prisoners -- and beyond that, to build a post-Gadhafi Libya.

"Individual perpetrators need to be brought to justice and held to account for their crimes," Sollom said. "And as we've seen historically in places like South Africa and Bosnia and Rwanda, it's a cathartic experience for the country, and a necessary one, to move forward."


http://apnews.myway.com//article/20110830/D9PE6K300.html


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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 01:10:25 pm »

I just love the way you two are shedding tears about Qadaffi and the Libyan people (who he basically stole all of Libya's oil money from to keep them poor while he lived in extreme wealth).

The guy was a sponsor of terrorism, he wanted a nuke, he would have nuked America if he had the chance, and he had 259 innocent civilians blown up on Pan Am 103 over Lockerbee.

Who cares if NATO went in cause they wanted to recoup their oil money? The guy was a murderer and deserved to be tossed out of power.

Right so if African nations want to have their own bank instead of being under IMF then anything NATO does is justified ?

So what if Obama is betraying Africa to the Globalists.

I am not shedding tears for Quadaffi, however he was doing more for the African people than America ever has yet somehow you buy into the CFR media thinking that the Libya invasion is about establishing Democracy.  The truth is the Libyan invasion is all about the IMF mafia quelling any attempt for Africa to establish its own banking system.

Where are the liberals crying racism now ?  You've got Globalists repressing the African people but because Obama is the figure head they get a free pass.  Hypocrites !!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2011, 10:00:49 pm »

NATO supplied the air power, but the rebels were the ones to make the advances.  This was the same people power movement that swept over Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Jordan and is now threatening to take Syria down. Not everything is a conspiracy.  These people have lived under a dictator for hundreds of years, why wouldn't they get sick of him and toss him out? And the only thing Obama did is intervene so the rebels wouldn't get slaughtered initially, he is getting NOTHING out of this.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 02:25:52 pm »

In 2007, U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explained the government plan to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan, Iran.



Of course Obama isn't but the Globalists are.
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2011, 12:01:32 am »

Of course, with Bush and Cheney were in office, that was the plan, but you don't see Obama talking about taking out any of those countries.  And our involvement in Libya was limited to air power.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2011, 03:01:53 pm »

In your dreams, Sir...
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2011, 03:55:02 pm »

Right like Obama isn't going to be a yes-man to the Globalists liek Bush & Cheney.

A blue-Globalist is always morally superior to a red-Globalist no matter how many un-Constitutional wars they involve us in.

Good God do you even listen to yourselves, you gulliberals !!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2011, 11:43:46 pm »

In your dreams, Sir...


You have other information (besides Volitzer propaganda films), by all means, show it.
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