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Volitzer
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June 24, 2011, 12:10:35 pm »
It's not just Alex Jones it is people like Daniel Estulin, Ian Richardson, H. Paul Jeffers, Heinz Duthel, Robert Gaylon Ross and Jim Tucker who have documented Bilderberg meetings and NWO activity for years.
http://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Bilderberg-Group/dp/0979988624/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Bilderberg-People-Elite-Consensus-Affairs/dp/0415576350/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Bilderberg-Conspiracy-H-Paul-Jeffers/dp/0806531150/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.com/Rockefeller-Council-Relations-Bilderberg-ebook/dp/B003K16NAC/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/Whos-Who-Elite-Bilderbergs-Trilateral/dp/0964988801/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-5
Alex Jones and Jason Bermas have been part of the brave few talk show hosts that actually bring their crytpocratic activities to light.
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Krista Davenport
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June 25, 2011, 04:12:54 pm »
You know, listen to yourself. Who cares if there is an actual New World Order? The bottom line is that the rich want to turn you all into wage slaves on par with the people on the lowest wage scale in the world, and you're too involved with the "conspiracy" in order to see it. Turn your hate towards rich bastards like the Koch Brothers instead of the people Alex Jones wants you to hate. He is probably just another schill for the rich anyway.
IT'S US AGAINST THEM (Corporatists, Republicans and the RICH)
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Volitzer
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June 27, 2011, 01:07:39 pm »
Quote from: Krista Davenport on June 25, 2011, 04:12:54 pm
You know, listen to yourself. Who cares if there is an actual New World Order? The bottom line is that the rich want to turn you all into wage slaves on par with the people on the lowest wage scale in the world, and you're too involved with the "conspiracy" in order to see it. Turn your hate towards rich bastards like the Koch Brothers instead of the people Alex Jones wants you to hate. He is probably just another schill for the rich anyway.
IT'S US AGAINST THEM (Corporatists, Republicans and the RICH)
I agree
but you also need to add... Limo-Liberals, Globalist-Democrats, Socialist-Democrats, Climate-changers, much like you have good cop bad cop, they are playing Corporatist politician, Socialist-Politiican and offer America nothing but a false choice. Go ahead and vote for their opponent, both horses have the same owner. As for US being the people of the United States I agree.
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Krista Davenport
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June 30, 2011, 10:48:42 pm »
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I agree but you also need to add... Limo-Liberals, Globalist-Democrats, Socialist-Democrats, Climate-changers, much like you have good cop bad cop, they are playing Corporatist politician, Socialist-Politiican and offer America nothing but a false choice. Go ahead and vote for their opponent, both horses have the same owner. As for US being the people of the United States I agree.
This one totally contradicts itself. You do know the definition of a liberal, right? Mostly it's about helping people, whereas corporatists basically believe in helping themselves (mostly to your tax money).
Socialists, on the other hand, believe i government control of everything, which is at odd with the big business capitalist agenda.
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July 01, 2011, 02:43:22 pm »
Quote from: Krista Davenport on June 30, 2011, 10:48:42 pm
This one totally contradicts itself. You do know the definition of a liberal, right? Mostly it's about helping people, whereas corporatists basically believe in helping themselves (mostly to your tax money).
Socialists, on the other hand, believe in government control of everything, which is at odd with the big business capitalist agenda.
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lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Show Spelled
[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl]
–adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. ( often initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
Both capitalism and socialism will collapse in on itself via its evil aspects. Greed, wrath, pride & envy with capitalism and sloth and gluttony with socialism. Neither system is perfect. It is just a question of how much of each will you tolerate within an economy and how you balance it out.
Don't get me wrong, Progressivism/Liberalism has done a lot of good in this country. People like Garret Morgan who invented the gas mask, hair straightener and the traffic light. Stephanie Kwolek who invented KEVLAR, which would never have happened if Past Progressives weren't successful.
http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/garrett-morgan.html
http://www.women-inventors.com/Stephanie-Kwolek.asp
The trick is to reward innovation and grant opportunity while weeding out corruption. Like when I tried to bring aerodynamics to a welfare-ridden county in NYS and got rejected for it. Yet they had no qualms about the college money that came into the county yet they didn't want any REAL job creation. This is what has to stop.
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Big Ed
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August 04, 2011, 12:38:54 am »
Well, lookee here, looks like this Volitzer fella was actually born in Kenya, too. Those Ron Paul fellas are sue full of it, are't they?
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Volitzer
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August 04, 2011, 04:29:31 pm »
Yeah okay I was born in Kenya.
The whole thing is just a computer manipulated document just as Obama's is.
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Big Ed
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August 04, 2011, 10:54:36 pm »
How do we know it's a computer made document? Looks pretty genuine to me. You probably feel a kinship for this Obama fella, seeing as how you were both born in Kenya.
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September 15, 2011, 02:17:25 pm »
I post slews of Ron Paul posts but I am for Obama... Give it a rest already.
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Krista Davenport
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September 20, 2011, 11:43:19 pm »
That's just a smokescreen because you don't want people to know that you're a Kenyan, too!
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Volitzer
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September 21, 2011, 05:32:05 pm »
Until Obama got into office many of you gulliberals and neo-cons probably couldn't even find Kenya on a map.
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Krista Davenport
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Neither probably could his mom since there is no proof that she ever went there.
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Some Stanley Ann Dunham passport file documents are finally released after over a year and a half of Mr. Strunk requesting and then suing to get the information released in the Strunk vs Dept of State FOIA case. This information should have been been released long ago per his initial FOIA request. But as with everything with Mr. Obama and his early life, the cover up is maintained as long as possible and then when the files are released things that should be there are missing. It required a federal lawsuit to even get them to release even these documents.
The passport services official says in the cover letter that the some earlier passport application records noted in subsequent filings could not be found. Any possible 1960/1961 passport application paper work information that has been postulated by researchers studying Obama's early life narrative is missing from this released information. The link to a passport application in the early 60s would be to see the passport application filed in 1965. The application paper work for a known passport issued on July 19, 1965 is missing. How convenient that key pieces of information about Obama and his family's early life always turns up missing! This reminds me of the two missing pages in the Stanley Ann and Lolo Soetoro divorce file.
Why I believe the July 19, 1965 issued passport was issued pursuant to a RENEWAL application filed in 1965 and was not the first passport that Stanley Ann Dunham had. The issue date in July 19, 1965 is four months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965. If she had applied for her first passport in the late spring or early summer of 1965 she would have had to legally apply for it in her married name, Stanley Ann Soetoro. The July 19, 1965 issued passport was not in her married name since she had to AMEND it in 1967 and show her marriage license to get her married name put on her passport at that time. That is what the 1967 document states. And secondly, I believe it was a renewal application in 1965, because Obama's family in Kenya says Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama was there when Obama was born and government officials in Kenya state Obama was born there. Stanley Ann would have needed a passport in 1961 to get to Kenya and back to the USA. Since the 1965 passport was not in her 2nd marriage name when it was issued 4 months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro, it is obvious to me she simply renewed her previously issued circa early 1961 original passport which was in either her maiden name or in the name of her first marriage name of Stanley Ann Obama, if issued after Feb 1961 when she is said to have married Barack Hussein Obama Sr.
The copies of documents in what was released per the FOIA request are numbered but not in chronological order. This makes reading the file and the flow of events over time more difficult unless one prints out the file and rearranges the docs in chronological order, which I did.
There is a document numbered P3 which is an application for amendment of her existing passport. This amendment request was apparently done in 1967 (per a handwritten clerk's name and date note on it since the date is not filled in below Stanley Ann's signature on the form). This handwritten annotated note and date was apparently done by a clerk seeing a marriage license in order to process the request to amend a passport issued on July 19, 1965. But the copy of that 1965 passport application is not provided in this FOIA request. The passport officials say it could not be found. Why? That 1965 passport was issued several months after she married Lolo Soetoro. She filed the amendment apparently in 1967 allegedly to have it reflect her married name due to her name change after marrying Lolo Soetoro at Molokai Hawaii on March 15, 1965 per page marked P3 of the released documents. Thus the conveniently missing application records for this 1965 passport implies to me that that there was something indicated in it that the powers to be did not want the public to see, i.e., that she had a passport prior to 1965 and the 1965 records indicated it was a Renewal application. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear. The carefully worded cover letter with the FOIA release implies to me that earlier years records have been purged by someone at sometime for some reason since they could not find a record that should be there based on records they did find. Was the 1965 passport issued done per a renewal request for a prior issued passport? As to the implication in the cover letter that early year data may have been cleaned out due to some records retention cut off date. I don't buy that. Since passport records are filed in files by name and not in boxes or files by year, this does not make sense. I was under the impression that passport records kept and filed by name were kept virtually forever. That wording sounded to me like bureaucratic obfuscation. It sounds to me like HI officials (or whoever controls them) are now instructing the U.S. Passport Office how to obfuscate and parse sentences in cover letters to allow them to not provide what one asks for and yet not be lying. In my opinion, there was probably a passport issued to Stanley Ann (whatever name she used to get it) prior to 1965. The 1965 passport application record pointed to that. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear.
Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro-Passport Application File-Strunk v Dept of State-FOIA Release-FINAL-7-29-10. This file indicates via the 1967 passport amendment application (document marked P3) that Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama had a passport for certain issued to her 1965 and she was applying to amend it. Thus she had one for sure in 1965. Since a passport was good for 5 years that means if the 1965 issued passport was a renewal that she likely got her first passport possibly as early as late 1960 or early 1961. How does that fit the narrative to explain the information coming out of Kenya that Obama was born there? Why did she need a passport at age 18? She would not need it to have a baby in Hawaii or to go to college in Seattle Washington. What was the real reason this pregnant teenager got a passport in late 1960 or early in 1961? I believe it was likely to be able to travel to Kenya to have the baby over there where it was her intent to leave the baby there to be raised by the paternal family in Kenya. She was to then return to re-start her life as a young teenager going to college in Seattle Washington. And then when Stanley Ann did not follow the plan because maternal instincts kicked in and she returned to college in Seattle WITH the new baby, grandma Dunham had to take action and filed the fraudulent action in Hawaii to falsely register the baby as born at home there in Hawaii, with no witnesses, to get her newborn grandson U.S. Citizenship ... because it was very easy to do this in Hawaii in 1961. Listen to the Bill Cunningham Radio Show for how it was likely done [continued below video]:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/07/breaking-stanley-ann-dunhamobamasoetoro.html
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"grandma Dunham had to take action and filed the fraudulent action in Hawaii to falsely register the baby as born at home there in Hawaii, with no witnesses, to get her newborn grandson U.S. Citizenship ... because it was very easy to do this in Hawaii in 1961."
If anything this is why there are no records of any hospital issued Birth Certificate for Hawaii. Cuz his American citizenship is based on fraud with his granny registering him. This is why they had to later alter the BC of a dead baby and put Obama's info in for the phony BC.
This is why Gov. Abercrombie can't find the Hawaian BC. Cuz there's none to be found.
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You mean you wish that because, like other conservatives, you are a racist bigot.
You keep citing these Jerome Corsi talking points like they are proven, when nobody but other bigots ever corroborate them. He's a propagandist, similar to Joseph Goebbels, mainly a guy who comes up with a lot of crap to appeal to people's prejudices. Some people, like you, are easy marks.
Also, for people who have better things to do than to read your worldnet daily drivel, here is the only part they need to pay attention to:
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The passport services official says in the cover letter that the some earlier passport application records noted in subsequent filings
could not be found.
Any possible 1960/1961 passport application paper work information that has been
postulated by researchers studying Obama's early life narrative is missing from this released information.
The link to a passport application in the early 60s would be to see the passport application filed in 1965.
The application paper work for a known passport issued on July 19, 1965 is missing.
So, cutting through racist conservative speak: missing might as well mean "non-existent."
Meaning, they CAN'T find any application for a passport because his MOM NEVER APPLIED FOR ONE UNTIL AFTER OBAMA WAS BORN.
This would make sense to everyone but Volitzer, who, of course, is one of the many empty-headed bigots out there just waiting for another rich conservative to play on his natural prejudice.
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