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Majeston
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Quote from: Qoais on April 12, 2007, 10:53:43 am
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With the "Whole" of the Edenic peninsula being submerged in no way does that need to include the remaining mountain top 50 miles away. That is only your assumption and a very shaky one besides.
This is not my assumption. It's right from the UB. If Cyprus was the edenic peninsula, it should be under water. Are you saying that there was another peninsula BESIDE Cyprus? that was whole-ly
inundated? If you believe the UB, you have to believe all of it. It says the "whole" edenic peninsula was covered with water.
You're starting to sound like Georgeos Qoais.
http://www.discoveryofatlantis.com/EarlyDataImages/filmstrip1.html
http://www.discoveryofatlantis.com/EarlyDataImages/cyprus.html
http://www.discoveryofatlantis.com/EarlyDataImages/atlantis_plain.html
http://www.discoveryofatlantis.com/EarlyDataImages/Pic_c.html
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You will notice that this "peninsula" is all one piece of land. If Eden was on this peninsula anywhere, the whole peninsula should be under water, not just a part of it, since the WHOLE edenic peninsula is underwater.
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You're starting to sound like Georgeos Qoais
Well, in this case I think it's justified
You WILL split hairs, so it seems I have to be very specific in these discussions. One may be able to misinterpret Greek and make it into something it isn't, but the UB uses pretty simple english (in most cases).
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April 12, 2007, 07:24:35 pm »
If you think beetle island is 1st Eden, there is absolutely no match match in the UB or in any other text of the planet pointing to bettle island except you. There is nothing else that points to this location.
There is far more matches that supports 1st Eden of Cyprus than that of Beetle island. Eden proper is fully submerged and the peninsula was connected to the mainland where remnants of the ancient great river can be seen in the middle of the connecting peninsula. If your point of contention is the only point your making where in effect you wipe of everything out then I think your completely flawed.
Your a**umption of Beetle island is like putting a circle in a square.
It just doesn't fit at all.
Well all I can say that the UB mentions a stone wall, it doesn't mention man made or anything and the stone wall is there. That was the marker given in the UB and Robert Sarmast in the beforehand experience predicted it and the found it to the coordinates.
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When the plans of the Material Son went astray, Adam and his family were not permitted to carry the core of the tree away from the Garden. When the Nodites invaded Eden, they were told that they would become as "gods if they partook of the fruit of the tree." Much to their surprise they found it unguarded. They ate freely of the fruit for years, but it did nothing for them; they were all material mortals of the realm; they lacked that endowment which acted as a complement to the fruit of the tree. They became enraged at their inability to benefit from the tree of life, and in connection with one of their internal wars, the temple and the tree were both destroyed by fire;
only the stone wall stood
until the Garden was subsequently submerged. This was the second temple of the Father to perish.
The discovery of the stone wall, the marker. (note in the UB it doesnt say manmade, just says stone wall)
And here is an image based on proper side scan data of the Peninsula or isthmus that connected the Edenic peninsula with the mainland with the great river running through the middle of the land bridge.
Here is a quick study I did on the 12 gates of Eden ages ago but It does need more work.
http://sevenfoldbooks.com/12_gates1.htm
I mean to say who is splitting hairs here and going in circles where you show nothing in the way of analysis of others to support your theory.
Unless there is other proper evidence to say otherwise just accept the fact that this location is 1stEden.
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Hi Sevens
When I first talked about "beetle" island, that was when I first joined Sarmast's forum and was having fun playing with Google earth. It wasn't meant to be serious.
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Unless there is other proper evidence to say otherwise just accept the fact that this location is 1stEden.
I can't. That would make the UB a liar. The WHOLE EDENIC PENINSULA was inundated. Not just the temple.
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Sorry I'm not going in circles on that point, you have my research and links to matter and we are way down the track on other discoveries, to argue this minor point in light of all the other areas of discoveries is just argument for contention sake.
You can argue the point with Majeston. I'm not going to entertainment this argument any longer. We went through this before.
A peninsula is a peninsula and mountain is something entirely different to a peninsula, the peninsula of Eden proper is fully submerged.
As in this image where the peninsula is fully submerged, The mountain is not a peninsula nor does it equate to the fully submerged Edenic peninsula.
WHOLE EDENIC PENINSULA is submerged but not the mountain.
If you want to argue Eden make up a thread.
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Actually Sevens, I came to THIS thread to discuss the UB with Majeston.
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go for it, im sure Majeston will be very impressed.
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Forever, music will remain the universal language of men, angels, and spirits.
Harmony is the speech of Havona.
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