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Arizona Birther Bill Is Unconstitutional, Legal Scholars Say

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« on: April 16, 2011, 12:16:34 am »

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Arizona Birther Bill Is Unconstitutional, Legal Scholars Say



2012 presidential candidates could have one more challenge to getting their name on the ballot: proving to Arizona’s secretary of state that they are natural-born U.S. citizens.

Yet lawmakers and experts from across the country are saying that the bill, which passed Arizona’s House of Representatives in a landslide vote late Thursday evening, is blatantly unconstitutional.

“It wouldn’t hold up for a nanosecond,” said Laurence Tribe, a professor at Harvard Law School and one of the nation’s leading constitutional scholars who has worked for the Justice Department under President Obama. “I’m not even sure if it’s intended seriously.”

The bill, which passed 40-16, would require presidential candidates to provide the Arizona secretary of state proof of citizenship before their names could appear on the state ballot. The proof could take the form of a birth certificate, baptismal or circumcision certificates, hospital birth records or other documents -- but if the candidate failed to sway the secretary of state, his or her name could be barred.

Thirteen other states have proposed similar legislation this year, spurred by the so-called “birthers” movement that claims that President Obama was born in Kenya, not the United States, despite the fact that his birth certificate has been made available by the state of Hawaii on multiple occasions. The constitution requires an individual be a natural born U.S. citizen to hold the country’s highest office.

Legally, national political parties have the right to put forth presidential candidates, and many view Arizona's legislation as a classic example of a state's attempt to encroach on federal power.

“It’s an interference with federal supremacy. It’s not up for a state to decide who is qualified to run for president,” said Tribe.


Political commentators expect that if Gov. Jan Brewer allows the law to take effect, the courts will immediately challenge it.

“I think this is going to go on a rapid trip up the Appeals ladder,” said Richard Parker, a public policy lecturer at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. “I don’t think the Justice Department is going to let this sit idly by. It’s way too off-the-rails.”

Which raises the question: Why bother with legislation that is practically begging for a costly lawsuit -- especially in a state like Arizona, where lawmakers have been grappling with a budget deficit so extreme that Gov. Jan Brewer proposed to eliminate health insurance for more than 160,000 of the poorest and sickest Arizonans just two weeks ago.

Frustrated Arizona Democrats say the bill is just one more attempt to placate the state’s radical right-wing conservatives at the expense of serious legislative action.

“It’s particularly targeted to appease conspiracy theorists and to target one president,” said state Rep. Ruben Gallego (D), who did not support the bill. “This is absolutely not a good allocation of resources, our time and our emotions.”

It’s unclear, however, that the far right-wing needs appeasing in Arizona. Gun-rights advocates hit it big last week with a bill that will allow guns on college campuses, and last summer’s immigration law put the state at the forefront of conservative immigration policy.

“Unfortunately I do feel we’re on a [conservative] streak. Yesterday was one bill of many bad bills,” said Gallego, who also spent the week fighting to keep guns off campuses.

Inside Arizona, the perception that the legislature is misusing precious resources is indeed vexing some voters.

"This bill would be laughable if the core of it all was not so tragic,” said Gary Grossman, president of the Arizona State University Senate, a body that represents all academic units in the university. “In the midst of Arizona's very serious problems, our legislature produces bills like this. It is indicative, I think, of some very misplaced priorities and that does damage to all of us.”
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 03:44:31 pm »

Under the 10th Amendment it is legal.

The Federal Government acts as an agent to the states.

If anything is un-Constitutional it is the Obama Presidency.

Where are these idiot legal scholars on the whole 'natural born' clause in the US Constitution ??

They should have their law licenses revoked !!!!!

F@#$ing @$$holes !!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 12:27:48 am »

Well, in order to get this to be an issue, Volitzer, you need a ruling from a court, and sofar they decided it's without merit. If you can't get a court ruling, technically, it's just gossip! Sorry.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 02:37:16 pm »

Everything Hitler did was legal too.

The Supreme Court is just acting in the Globalists' interests and not in the US Constitutions.  The states can do this under the 10th Amendment when the Federal Government is corrupt.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 12:07:28 am »

Did you see this, Volitzer?


Jan Brewer Vetoes Presidential Birther Bill



PHOENIX — Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has vetoed a bill to require President Barack Obama and other presidential candidates to prove their U.S. citizenship before their names can appear on the state's ballot.

The bill vetoed by Brewer on Monday would have made Arizona the first state to pass such a requirement. According to My Fox Phoenix, the governor said the measure "is a bridge too far."

The AP reported last week on the legislation:

    The Arizona proposal would require political parties and presidential candidates to hand in affidavits stating a candidate's citizenship and age and to provide the candidate's birth certificate and a sworn statement saying where the candidate has lived for 14 years.

    If candidates don't have a copy of their birth certificates, they could meet the requirement by providing baptismal or circumcision certificates, hospital birth records and other documents.

"I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for president of the greatest and most powerful nation on earth to submit their 'early baptismal or circumcision certificates'," said Brewer in light of vetoing the bill, according to My Fox Phoenix. "This measure creates significant new problems while failing to do anything constructive for Arizona."

Last week, Brewer was tight-lipped on whether or not she planned to sign off on the bill. At the time, she called the measure "an interesting piece of legislation."

Hawaii officials have certified Obama was born in that state, but so-called "birthers" have demanded more proof.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2011, 12:10:33 am »

Looks like she knew it was unconstitu­tional. Her advisers probably told her as much and that it would be an embarrassm­ent to have it smacked down in the courts.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 02:22:17 pm »

It's not un-Constitutional it's redundant legislation.  The US Constitution already requires a US citizen be 'natural-born'.

As a Governor she has the power to refuse all un-Constitutional Bills passed into law by Obama.  The Florida Courts are doing the same thing now with Obamacare.

It would be like each state writing new anti-slavery laws, again redundant.
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