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« on: August 03, 2007, 05:31:52 am »



Is Mars really open for business, or will it remain a difficult, mocking utopia, rich in resources and land but too hard to travel to or live on? Most of us already know the rocky history of unmanned Mars exploration and it has not been very inspiring for those of us looking to send people there someday soon. If a rough road leads to the stars, Mars is a good example of how rough that road really is, with only 14 out of 35 missions to date a success. It is a planet that seems to hold many of the elements we need for a long-term human presence but, after five decades of unmanned missions, it still seems a bridge too far. Despite all this, a case can still be made for why the private sector should consider Mars.

If the private sector is to capitalize on Mars from the earliest stages it must start sooner rather than later. There are many nations and possible competitors to think about in the effort to make Mars viable, and, like with any business venture, if the competition gets there first, they can easily corner the market. ESA, China, Russia, and other nations intend on making it to Mars in the next few decades. Businesses would be wise to consider this in respect to Mars as well. Mars will not lay empty of human endeavor indefinitely. We should never take that for granted. There are many plans on how to get to Mars, some ranging from $2-billion one-man shots right up to $500-billion government programs. None of us know with certainty which plan will be used first, but the options are out there for any entrepreneurial businesses to take advantage of what is currently a wide open market.

The Vision for Space Exploration and hopes of getting to Mars in 20 or 30 years would have to survive unscathed through multiple administrations to ultimately succeed, and if history is anything to go by, the situation does not look promising on many fronts.

What plans might some of you have that could contribute to this adventure?
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2007, 12:05:19 am »

I'm actually not certain how many resources are on Mars, the environment is so inhospitable that it is hard to be sure - that's one of the main reasons for all the failed missions!  Think of it, we aren't even sure if there's water on there yet.  Discover oil on there, though, and you can bet that Mars exploration will go up dramatically.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2007, 05:07:34 pm »

I'm actually not certain how many resources are on Mars, the environment is so inhospitable that it is hard to be sure - that's one of the main reasons for all the failed missions!  Think of it, we aren't even sure if there's water on there yet.  Discover oil on there, though, and you can bet that Mars exploration will go up dramatically.

I won't dispute that! However, we also don't have any evidence that Mars is as inhospitable as NASA said it is.
Even the Moon for that matter.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2007, 06:19:49 pm »

NASA is telling the truth with Mars.  In fact the Martian pilot who Cedric Allingham met up with even confirmed that they were living underground.

The high CO2 is a result of a Martian Holocaust tens of thousands of years ago.

It would be more suitable to go to the Mare Cruzium area of the moon or to Retz, Venus if one wanted to bring Earth into the "Federation".
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2007, 06:22:31 pm »

I'm actually not certain how many resources are on Mars, the environment is so inhospitable that it is hard to be sure - that's one of the main reasons for all the failed missions!  Think of it, we aren't even sure if there's water on there yet.  Discover oil on there, though, and you can bet that Mars exploration will go up dramatically.

Exo-humans alike, both Venusian and Martian, are keeping Earth humanity right where we are until we get out under Illuminati dominion.

Our rockets are too polluting of space so that is why we are confined to space station missions.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2007, 06:27:26 pm »

I'm actually not certain how many resources are on Mars, the environment is so inhospitable that it is hard to be sure - that's one of the main reasons for all the failed missions!  Think of it, we aren't even sure if there's water on there yet.  Discover oil on there, though, and you can bet that Mars exploration will go up dramatically.

I won't dispute that! However, we also don't have any evidence that Mars is as inhospitable as NASA said it is.
Even the Moon for that matter.  Smiley

We need to think Hutchison Effect if we are going to get anywhere in the solar system.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2007, 08:35:45 pm »

I'm actually not certain how many resources are on Mars, the environment is so inhospitable that it is hard to be sure - that's one of the main reasons for all the failed missions!  Think of it, we aren't even sure if there's water on there yet.  Discover oil on there, though, and you can bet that Mars exploration will go up dramatically.

I won't dispute that! However, we also don't have any evidence that Mars is as inhospitable as NASA said it is.
Even the Moon for that matter.  Smiley

We need to think Hutchison Effect if we are going to get anywhere in the solar system.

Let's not take any credit from TSM either my friend.
As for the H-effect, have you tried to get a hold of him lately?
Very difficult to do. Mark Solice was the old contact to have John E-mail you.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2007, 12:31:11 pm »

Yeah I am relocating from NYS to Florida where business actually thrives.  The Nanny-State Socialists here are seizing power at an alarming rate.

Hopefully TSM will have his patent ducks in a row and then when we go to start the business up in Florida we will actually meet receptive business people.
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2007, 11:10:55 pm »

Do you have any of your patents in place for design?
I sure hope you do make it man. I mean that sincerely.

It would be nice to see you on television, actually stickin it to da man.... Cool
Private enterprise is the only thing I can think of to make it happen.
Good luck, volitzer and tell Rob that Harry sends his regaurds...
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2007, 01:20:58 am »

"We need to think Hutchison Effect if we are going to get anywhere in the solar system."

Wasn't the Hutchison Effect unmasled as a hoax?
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2007, 03:34:03 pm »

No!!!!!!!   Huh
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2007, 01:16:42 am »

Where did the information that it was a hoax come from?

To get in touch with John Hutchison, send him an email at: heffect@infinet.net



PhD Electrical Engineer James Corum co-authored a paper in 1981 with graduate-student Terry Keech where they analyzed how the metric tensor & gravity would be modified for a time-varying electric charge. The calculations that they derived & published suggest that a time-varying electric-charge can produce a 'gravitational repulsion' or negative gravitational-mass.
Ventura has designed an experiment to potentially verify this theory by recording the Hutchison Effect on an active sample using a logging multimeter, and then re-apply the same complex RF signal to the same signal at a later time using a linear-amplifier to match the original amplitude. Thus, while the original effect requires a complex arrangement of RF and high-voltage equipment to produce, it may be reproduced with a very simplistic and well-understood apparatus, verifying that a specific resonant signal is what causes the effect, and not psychokinetic or other causal factors.








John Hutchison and I were in regular contact about 3 years ago in regaurds to his experiments. As I've been informed recently by a friend of his, NASA has actually been showing an active interest in what him and his new right-hand man have been accomplishing. Must have been something good. I haven't been able to contact him directly since.
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Not to stir the hornets nest here, but I will totally agree with Volitzer.
It's not a hoax, and what these experiments mean to the world at this point is even greater then what we can imagine.
I'm sure, that once they find exactly the right frequency to reduplicate the H-effect, someone is going to want to use it for a trip to space. We know they can't be using much more then a 200 amp service to the apartment they work out of. This is also kind of interesting, taking past Nazi anti-gravity experiments into consideration.

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One more peice of information that is no longer findable that seen about 5 years ago was the staff list involved in the Philadelphia Experiment. Thomas Hutchison, was one of the cheif scientist responsible for the use of a tesla coil in the experiment. Food for thought.
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2007, 03:20:49 pm »

 Smiley  According to Dr. Courtney Brown author of "Cosmic Voyage" , Mars was once a habitabe planet, but lost it’s atmosphere in a near collision with an asteriod that created a “ripple effect” in the atmosphere.  As he describes it, the near miss caused a back and forth wave like motion in the atmosphere, that eventually depleted the already thin atmoshpere and eventually destroyed the life on that planet.  Not to be worried however, because the “grey aliens” came to the rescue of the “martians” (who were humaniod and looked much like us only more pale), and some of them live underground on Mars, while others live inside a mountain in New Mexio. 

Dr. Brown is of course the famous remote viewing expert. But I’m not sure that his information has lent more credibility to that “science” as he’s called it.  I’m not trying to be scarcastic, and I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, either.  Truth is usually stranger than fiction, and I for one believe that the “Face On Mars” is not just a trick of “light and shadow” and that there is indeed a government coverup on the factual images of Cydonia. 

One thing is for sure.  Mars is not exactly a “Plam Beach” today.  But there sure seems to be a renewed interest in getting a manned mission to mars again.  I thought NASA has declared that there was no need to risk peoples lives on “manned missions?”  Just exactly what changed their minds I wonder?  Seems to me it changed shortly after they released the new pictures of the “Face On Mars” that showed it was a natural formation.  Someone correct me if I’m wrong here. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2007, 04:30:10 pm »

There was a Martian Holocaust thousands of years ago.  The Venusians shouls have the most detailed record should we ever make contact.

To Native Americans Mars was known as Huitzepechelli, destroyer of towns and villages.

To ancient Chinese Mars was known as Yin-Ho the fire planet.

The Celtic and Bantu people of Africa have legends of moving preganant women onto discoid craft to escape to Earth and flee a great Martian Holocaust.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2007, 04:45:12 pm »

Well, perhaps then Dr. Brown was correct.  Exactly what was the nature of this Martian holocaust?  And are The Venusians shouls the same Venusians that Sunat Kumara, (the King of the World, an eternally youthful enity from Venusian Lords of Flame) fare from? 
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