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D O W S I N G
Dowsing, sometimes called divining or water witching, refers to practices said to enable one to detect hidden water, metals, gemstones or other objects, usually obstructed by land or sometimes located on a map. Most commonly, detection is made through the movement or vibrations of an apparatus, such as a Y-shaped twig, an L-shaped rod, or a pendulum. Some practitioners claim to need no apparatus at all.
While scientific evidence hasn't been found confirming dowsing's efficacy, some researchers believe there is evidence to support it, and many people continue to believe that it works.
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History of dowsing
Dowsing has existed in various forms for thousands of years.[3] The original may have been for divination purposes — to divine the will of the gods, to foretell the future and divine guilt in trials. Dowsing as practiced today probably originated in Germany during the 15th century, when it was used to find metals. The technique spread to England with German miners who came to England to work in the coal mines. During the Middle Ages dowsing was associated with the Devil. In 1659 dowsing was declared Satanic by the Jesuit Gaspar Schott.[citation needed] In 1701 the Inquisition stopped using the dowsing rod in trials. In the late 1960s during the Vietnam War, U.S. Marines may have used dowsing to locate weapons and tunnels.[4] An extensive book on the history of dowsing was published by Christopher Bird in 1979 under the title of The Divining Hand.
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Possible explanations
Skeptics of dowsing and many of dowsing's supporters believe that dowsing apparatus have no special powers, but merely amplify small imperceptible movements of the hands arising from the expectations of the dowser. This psychological phenomenon is termed the ideomotor effect. Some supporters agree with this explanation, but maintain that the dowser has a subliminal sensitivity to the environment, perhaps via electroception, magnetoception, or telluric currents. These explanations give rise to the classification of dowsing as pseudoscience. Other dowsers cannot explain the source of their powers apart from the paranormal, such as paranormal auras, or as a matter of faith.
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Dowsing equipment
Many dowsers use simple brass rods bent in an "L" shape known as divining rods; others use wooden Y-rods and/or even bent wire coat hangers. According to some dowsers who use divining rods, brass allows the rod to attune to magnetic fields emanated by the target without the earth's EM field interfering, as would be the case with a metal such as steel. The end of the rod to be held by the dowser is often encased in a material that provides a constant electrical impedance, to prevent the dowser's own conductivity from interfering with the dowsing process.
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Pendulums for divination and dowsing
Pendulums (these may be a crystal suspended on a chain, or a metal weight) can be used in divination and dowsing. In one approach the user first determines which direction (left-right, up-down) will indicate "yes" and which "no," before proceeding to ask the pendulum specific questions. In another form of divination, the pendulum is used with a pad or cloth that has "yes" and "no" written on it, and perhaps other words, written in a circle in the latter case. The person holding the pendulum aims to hold it as steadily as possible over the center. An interviewer may pose questions to the person holding the pendulum, and it swings by minute unconscious bodily movement in the direction of the answer. In the practice of radiesthesia a pendulum is used for medical diagnosis.
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Dowsing claims
On the cover of his eBook, The Miracle of Dowsing, Robert A. Swanson claims to have used dowsing in 2003 to locate Saddam Hussein. Published reports of Hussein's capture, however, do not mention Swanson's role.
Notable individuals claiming dowsing ability
The following are among those who claim to be skilled in dowsing:
Karl Spiesberger
Ludwig Straniak
Wilhelm Wulff
A. Frank Glahn
Baron Dr. Carl (Karl) Ludwig von Professor Hellmut Wolff
Thomas Charles Lethbridge; claimed there is a link between the length of the pendulum and the object being looked for.
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Evidence
Dowsing for water has been scientifically investigated in two studies, the Munich study in the late 1980s and the Kassel study in 2004, both referring to the locations in Germany in which these experiments were performed. Both studies failed to conclusively prove that dowsing is more than guesswork. Yet, the authors of the Munich study contended that a few of the 500 dowsers tested:
in particular tasks, showed an extraordinarily high rate of success, which can scarcely if at all be explained as due to chance ... a real core of dowser-phenomena can be regarded as empirically proven ...
Researcher and skeptic Jim T. Enright reviewed the data from the Munich tests and disputed these claims, while in the Kassel study the dowsers fared no better than chance.
Munich
The scientific study of dowsing in Munich, Germany was performed in 1987 to 1988 and involved more than 500 dowsers in more than 10,000 double-blind tests.
Five hundred dowsers were initially tested for their "skill", and the experimenters selected the best 43 among them. These 43 were then tested in the following way. On the ground floor of a two-story barn, water was pumped through a pipe; before each test, this pipe was moved in a direction perpendicular to the water flow. On the upper floor, each dowser was asked to determine the position of the pipe. Over two years, the 43 dowsers performed 843 such tests. Of the 43 pre-selected and extensively tested candidates, at least 37 of them showed no dowsing ability. The results from the remaining 6 were said to be better than chance, resulting in the experimenters' conclusion that "a real core of dowser-phenomena can be regarded as empirically proven."
Enright responds
Five years after the Munich study was published, scientist and skeptic Jim T. Enright contended that these results are merely consistent with statistical fluctuations and do not demonstrate any real ability.He noted that the best tester was on average 4 millimeters out of 10 meters closer to a mid-line guess, an advantage of 0.0004% advantage. The study's authors responded[12] but Enright remains unconvinced.
Kassel
More recently, a study was undertaken in Kassel, Germany, under the direction of the Gesellschaft zur wissenschaftlichen Untersuchung von Parawissenschaften (GWUP) [Society for the Scientific Investigation of the Parasciences]. The three-day test of some 30 dowsers involved plastic pipes through which a large flow of water could be controlled and directed. The pipes were buried 50 centimeters under a level field. On the surface, the position of each pipe was marked with a colored stripe, so all the dowsers had to do was tell whether there was water running through the pipe. All the dowsers signed a statement agreeing this was a fair test of their abilities and that they expected a 100 percent success rate. However, the results were no better than what would have been expected by chance.
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Geophysical explanations
Some researchers have investigated possible physical or geophysical explanations for dowsing abilities.
Harvalik
The study, "Anatomical localization of human detection of weak electromagnetic radiation: experiments with dowsers," concludes that dowsers respond to a 60 Hz electromagnetic field, but this is blocked if the kidney area or head are shielded.
Williamson
In a letter published in the journal "Nature", Williamson writes, "David Marks, in The Skeptical Inquirer, asserts that there are no theories to account for paranormal effects. This is not true for dowsing. Serious dowsing claims, such as those made by Soviet geologists, which are difficult to account for in terms of the reception of normal sensory cues, may be explained by postulating human sensitivity to small magnetic field gradient changes. The theory is supported by a series of tests involving 150 subjects. The magnetic theory predicts that dowsers can achieve above-chance results only if the features they claim to detect are associated with magnetic gradients of at least one nanotesla per metre. This was not the case in Randi's recent experiments, so his chance results are therefore consistent with the magnetic theory, which merits further investigation."
See also
J. Francis Hitching
Michel Moine
Reveal the Power of the Pendulum: Secrets of the Sidereal Pendulum, A Complete Survey of Pendulum Dowsing, by Karl Spiesberger
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External links
Divining Beats Britain's Drought
Dowsing at the Open Directory Project
Unconventional Water Detection - article from Journal of Scientific Exploration
Dowsing for Health
Mystery Robot Said to Solve Crimes, Find Mines in Chile - Manuel Salinas, a 39-year-old inventor, claims he has built a machine that has extraordinary capabilities for finding buried objects.
Dowsing for ghosts
Lethbridge's pendulum lengths
Dowsing References - Famous Advocates of Dowsing.
Hansen, George P. (1982). "Dowsing: A Review Of Experimental Research" 51 (October): 343-367. Retrieved on 2 January 2006.
Dowsing organizations
ISD - International Society of Dowsing Research
International Digital Dowsers Forum Board
ASD - American Society of Dowsers
BSD - British Society of Dowsers
CSD - Canadian Society of Dowsers
Dowsers Association
Skeptics
James Randi on Dowsing
The Skeptics Dictionary - Includes details of various scientific tests.
Australian Skeptics Divining Test
An Australian television program about the above divining test at Google Video.
Dowsing In Connecticut - by Perry DeAngelis
"Beyond Science" video PBS show Scientific American Frontiers on dowsing featuring Ray Hyman, Nov. 19, 1997
Experimental protocol: Dowsing - Scientific test conducted by the Observatoire Zetetique
The Straight Dope: Does dowsing for water really work?
(2007)
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References
^ a b Enright, Jim T. (Jan/Feb 1999). The Failure of the Munich Experiments. 'Skeptical Inquirer'. Paul Kurtz. Retrieved on 2006-11-14. “The researchers themselves concluded that the outcome unquestionably demonstrated successful dowsing abilities, but a thoughtful re-examination of the data indicates that such an interpretation can only be regarded as the result of wishful thinking.”
^ As translated from a preface of the Kassel experiments, "roughly 10,000 active dowsers in Germany alone can generate a conservatively-estimated annual revenue of more than 100 million DM (US$50 million)". See Kassel references.
^ "the earliest sign of its usage dates from a 4500-5000 year old grave inscription in Brittany." Ramsus, Jansson (1999-01-27 (revised)). Dowsing: Science or Humbug?.
^ FIX ME (could not access entire article) Error on call to Template:cite web: Parameters url and title must be specified.
^ a b c See references to Enright, J.T., and "DowsingWorks" among the external links.
^ Robert A. Swanson (2005). The Miracle of Dowsing. iUniverse. ISBN 0595378285.
^ "Timeline of Saddam Hussein's Capture", NPR, 2003-12-13.
^ "Saddam 'caught like a rat' in a hole", CNN, 2003-12-15. “"Saddam's capture was based not on a direct tip, but a collection of intelligence gathered from the hostile questioning of Saddam's former bodyguards and family members, U.S. officials said."”
^ a b Wagner, H., H.-D. Betz, and H. L. König, 1990. Schlußbericht 01 KB8602, Bundesministerium für Forschung und Technologie. As quoted by Enright in Skeptical Enquirer, some dowsers:
^ Wagner, H., H.-D. Betz, and H. L. König, 1990. Schlußbericht 01 KB8602, Bundesministerium für Forschung und Technologie.
^ Enright, J. T. 1995. Water dowsing: The Scheunen experiments. Naturwissenschaften 82: 360-369.
^ Betz, H.-D., H. L. König, R. Kulzer, R. Trischler, and J. Wagner. 1996. Dowsing reviewed — the effect persists. Naturwissenschaften 83: 272-275.
^ Enright, J. T. 1996. Dowsers lost in a barn. Naturwissenschaften 83: 275-277.
^ GWUP-Psi-Tests 2004: Keine Million Dollar für PSI-Fähigkeiten (in German) and English version.
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WATER !!!
The Toronto Dowsers Water Project
http://www.dowsers.info/toronto/toronto.htm
Healing the Waters of the Planet
Using Water for Health and Happiness
inspired by our friend, Raymon Grace, November 26, 2002
November 26, 2002, Raymon Grace energized 5 gallons of water for us which we have been using to energize other water so we can heal the waters of our planet. We had a contest and named this water ECH20 for Energized Cosmic Water and began The Water Project. Please visit these links for Water Project articles:
*How to OrderECH20 (Energized Cosmic Water)
http://www.dowsers.info/toronto/orders.htm
12/02: The Birth of The Water Project
http://www.dowsers.info/toronto/water1.htm
01/03: More Scientific Explanations, and, examples
http://www.dowsers.info/toronto/water2.htm
03/03: Raymon Grace's Presentation on Water at Total Health 2003
http://www.dowsers.info/toronto/water3.htm
05/03: Dr. Emoto's Toronto Presentation, May 2003
http://www.dowsers.info/toronto/water4.htm
05/03: Details of Participants in the July 25th event
07/04: Super neat LABELS for pipes (inspired by Dr. Emoto)
http://www.dowsers.info/toronto/waterlab.htm
Dr. Emoto's project of Love and Thanks to Water
http://www.thank-water.net/english/index.html
05/05: Article written for Fall 2004 ASD Digest
http://www.dowsers.info/toronto/WatUpdL.htm
10/05: Dr. Emoto's Toronto Presentation, May 2005
http://www.dowsers.info/toronto/water5.htm
Believe me you are all goint to want to read and learn this material.
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I am a huge fan of Jack Temple and his books....he passed a few years ago.
MY WAY OF EXPLAINING DOWSING
By Jack Temple
June 1999
Events occur in our lives which propel us onto new pathways we had no idea ever existed. It was when I picked up a pendulum at the first Mind and Body Exhibition at Olympia that my life changed. I had no comprehension of dowsing or what one can achieve with this simple bit of knowledge. In fact the knowledge of dowsing is so simple that most people reject it out of hand. I can only claim the distinction of possessing a brain able to use the gift of dowsing to pinpoint problems in the human body.
I’m going to stop here and ask you. all of you, to step out of your shoes. I want you to pretend that you are all farmers and you have a herd of 200 cows all needing copious amounts of water. There hasn’t been a drop of rain for 4 weeks. The land is parched and your cows are thirsty. Your metered supply is failing. Too many urban people are watering their gardens. You are now stressed and sick with a problem with no obvious solution. When discussing the matter with a friend he suggests approaching a well-known firm specialising in the sinking of bore holes.
After a number of seismatic tests you now have in front of you a mass of graphs with suggested areas that could produce water. The cost of sinking a few trial boreholes is daunting but even then the proposal is only to analyse the
water for its purity. Once all the other information is fed into the computer further discussions will enable the engineers to finalise the next moves.
In the meantime another friend told you about Mr Edwyn Taylor, an eminent farmer working 3,000 acres in Northumberland, who’s been a dowser since he was 20, he is now 81 and he has never ever failed to find water by dowsing. You look at your friend incredulously.
“You mean to say you can find water without seismatic tests, without a
laboratory, without a computer, simply by dowsing?”
“Oh yes, Edwyn is a reputed dowser and that is what he specialises in.”
“What’s his telephone number?”
Remember, you are all still out of your shoes and are all still farmers who are all worried about your cows and the lack of water for them to drink. Now the first question Edwyn will ask you is how many cows are there and what other water needs will arise in the future. He will then use a hazel stick or a special rod developed by water dowsers for this particular purpose. By dowsing he will locate the area where the borehole would have to be drilled and then the depth of the source of water, by dowsing again, of course. He will measure the flow per minute, by dowsing of course, the purity of the water, by dowsing of course, the output from the bore hole, by dowsing of course and that is the plan he would present to you.
Then you are faced with a choice. Do you go to the firm who has all the modern aids or do you rely on Edwyn and his dowsing skills and the recommendation that comes with him? You decide to go to Edwyn, so the borehole goes down, up comes the water with exactly the supply he forecast with exactly the purity he farecast. And this is all done by dowsing.
All of you are now confused particularly when you are faced with the following questions. How can a man with a rod say to you that the water you so badly need is available at, say, a depth of 100 feet and that it is flowing at a certain rate?
Edwyn has been a water dowser all his life. I know him well and we met only recently at the British Dowsers Convention held at Ripon in Yorkshire. In fact, Edwyn asked me to look at one of his knees as it was paining him and he was having to rely on a stick when walking. Next morning he greeted me with delight, his knee was not completely better but it was much, much better. You see, I wouldn’t know where to start if anybody asked me to dowse for water but, the human body, that is different.
What is this thing that is so amazing that people reel away from it in incredulous disbelief? It is (hat the human right brain hemisphere with its gigantic mass of brain cells enveloped with neurons can actually send out radar waves to any living object, analyse it and send back an answer via a “yes or no” response of a pendulum.
By the way I am really disapointed that this thread is in "Occult".
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Rocky,
I agree with you, this should not be in "Occult", as I am a firm believer of dowsing. I am
a loooong time practitioner. I think Occult is a word that no longer applies, as the 'powers-
that-be" can't scare people with that word anymore. Most people realize that..........
What think you about ARCANE AND RECONDITE PRACTICES? We could petition the Admini-
strators to change it to that or something similar.
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