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The suspicious actions of Bush Rumsfeld & Rice on 9/11

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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2009, 02:20:14 am »

How did Bush know a commercial plane hit the WTC before he even stepped into the classroom? None of us knew it was a commercial jet. The second plane hit at around 9:05. All the way up to that point the news networks were trying to figure out what hit the first tower. You can see yourself that they are all speculating, no one knows for sure what hit.......

NBC "We're being told it was a small commuter plane" 


CBS  .....but still no one knows what kind of plane hit, this after 9am


ABC  Still speculating as the second plane hit. They didn't know a commercial plane hit.


FOX news at around 9 AM..."there is a report on a New York channel that it was a jet perhaps a 737"


CNN...What kind of plane? 8:51AM  a passenger jet perhaps a 737.


CNN and FOX both are closest to getting it right. But nothing is for sure. Nothing confirmed from officials. So how did Bush know it was a commercial Airliner? He did know.......

"Tose'-Rigell, 50, says she first knew something was amiss when Bush emerged from his car and was whisked into a special holding room to take a telephone call. Then she was summoned to the room to talk to the president."

"He said a commercial plane has hit the World Trade Center, and we're going to go ahead and go on, we're going on to do the reading thing anyway," Tose'-Rigell recalls. "At that point my summation was they wanted him to know about this because it was important, but it couldn't be anything huge."
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2002/ap081902d.html
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2009, 02:20:59 am »

This is very important. We know how he found out it was a commercial plane. Because Condi Rice told him. The telephone call referenced here was from Condi Rice. So now the Question is. How did she know? She is the National Security Adviser. But also, why does he lie about it? When asked later he makes up weird stories like this......

In answer to a question from an eight-year-old in Florida, he said his first thought was: "There's one terrible pilot."
This is not considered his finest hour, and the latest comment seems to be further evidence about the sluggishness of his immediate response.
"I saw an airplane hit the tower - the TV was obviously on - and I used to fly myself, and I said, 'There's one terrible pilot.' And I said, 'It must have been a horrible accident.'"
The story that he was watching TV contradicts reports from correspondents at the time that he got the news in a phone call from his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/dec/05/september11.usa

One reason would be so we could all laugh and point out what a goofball he is. It would be better than what I'm about to do.

Condi Rice was National Security Adviser. If terrorist acts are taking place she is to be informed. The FAA and NORAD were informed of hijackings and the taking over of the planes well before they even hit the towers. When did they tell her? Her amazing answer is......never.

Timeline...
8:28 a.m.: The FAA's Boston Center calls FAA Command Center in Herndon, Virginia, and reports that American 11 has been hijacked.

8:37 a.m.: Boston Center informs NORAD of American 11's hijacking. It is the first notice the military receives of the unfolding events.

8:46 a.m.: In response to American 11's hijacking, Otis Air Force Base receives an order to scramble F-15s. Military officials ask for a destination for the fighter planes. None is known. At the same time of the order, American 11 crashes into the World Trade Center North Tower
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/911timeline.htm

Rice found out the plane that crashed into the tower was a commercial Airliner just as it happened. They didn't get this info from the news. That means it came from another source. The official channels. The official channels were aware of this hijacking due to the flight attendants calling from the plane.

At 8:45 was when the plane hit. There was no news coverage, it just happened.

"Her Secretary appeared at the door at 8:45 am to say that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. What a strange accident. Condi thought. She called President Bush, who was in Florida speaking about his education agenda, and gave him the news. "What a weird accident," he said. Page 193
http://books.google.com/books?id=JALuisF9KdEC&pg=PA193&lpg=PA193&dq=rice+bush+weird+accident&source=bl&ots=L8MPvg7ny5&sig=IJoReqTqYWf_VNHkl8amjvcdTgA&hl=en&ei=HMIDSteSGc-Ltgf1zoSOBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

another book.....
"Condi's executive assistant approached her and told her that a jet airliner had crashed into one of the two towers of the World Trade Center in New York City. Condi's first impression was that it was an accident, and she asked the reporting aide to keep her posted on how many casualties there were and any other relative information. She then called the President who was in Florida. After that she went to a staff meeting. In the middle of the meeting, Condi's executive assistant approached her again with a note that said that a second plane had hit the World Trade Center. That's when she knew it was a terrorist attack." page 472
http://books.google.com/books?id=HrteNHwTnPwC&pg=RA2-PA472&lpg=RA2-PA472&dq=%22condoleezza+rice%22+%22executive+assistant%22&source=bl&ots=Ci57J_HTk1&sig=hEY_VrhcHFuQMbQLuMj80NFMvlM&hl=en&ei=gsUDSu3UGY3YygXmvfXgBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6

Confirmed again she's told it's a commercial airliner, from Condi herself...
"I got the first call standing by my desk getting ready to go to an educational event. When the first plane hit the World Trade Center, my assistant came in and said a plane has hit the World Trade Center, and I said what a strange accident. At first I thought it might even have been a small plane, but then he said, "no, it's a commercial plane."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,587744,00.html

This is how authorities knew it was a hijacking, and no accident....

I'm the Operations Specialist on duty at the time and
I would say at approximately 8:20, one of our
employees received a phone call from, from a flight
attendant on one of our flights. She answered the
call through our International Resolution Desk who in
turn hit the emergency button and at that time I
started listening on a call. The flight attendant's
name was BETTY ONG and she was relaying to us what
was happening on the aircraft.http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-12-FBI-FD302-betty-ong-tape.pdf
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2009, 02:21:15 am »

AIRPHONE call from flight 11.....

Sweeny: "The plane has been hijacked ... flight attendant
number 5 from business class and flight attendant number 1 from first
class have both been stabbed ... a hijacker also cut the throat of a
business class passenger and he appears to be dead ... the hijackers
(four total) were all of middle eastern descent ... three were sitting
in business class ... one spoke English very well." Sweeny then
provided seat numbers 9B, 10C, 9G, and 9E as those being used by the
four hijackers.
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-11-FBI-phone-conversation-record.pdf

When Rice and Bush knew it was a commercial Airliner, the only other people that knew were the authorities who were notified because it was a hijacking. When it got up to Rice it was suddenly "an accident". This assured that both towers would be hit. Shoot down orders can only be authorized by the President and Secretary of Defense.

So what was the Secretary of Defense doing? As hard to believe as this is...it's even worse. At least Condi Rice has the brains to say when the second tower was hit that's when by golly it clicked that maybe we were under attack.....

In the middle of the meeting, Condi's executive assistant approached her again with a note that said that a second plane had hit the World Trade Center. That's when she knew it was a terrorist attack." page 472
http://books.google.com/books?id=HrteNHwTnPwC&pg=RA2-PA472&lpg=RA2-PA472&dq=%22condoleezza+rice%22+%22executive+assistant%22&source=bl&ots=Ci57J_HTk1&sig=hEY_VrhcHFuQMbQLuMj80NFMvlM&hl=en&ei=gsUDSu3UGY3YygXmvfXgBA

But Rumsfelds' story is....he didn't know anything about any terrorist attacks until after the pentagon was hit.
From the 9/11 commission itself....
8:19 Flight attendant notifies AA of hijacking
8:25 Boston Center aware of hijacking
8:38 Boston Center notifies NEADS of hijacking
8:46 NEADS scrambles Otis fighter jets in search of AA 11
8:46:40 AA 11 crashes into 1 WTC (North Tower)

On the morning of September 11, Secretary Rumsfeld was having breakfast at the Pentagon with a group of members of Congress. He then returned to his office for his daily intelligence briefing. The Secretary was informed of the second strike in New York during the briefing; he resumed the briefing while awaiting more information. After the Pentagon was struck, Secretary Rumsfeld went to the parking lot to assist with rescue efforts.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch1.htm

So an hour and 20 minutes after the flight attendants notify AA Rumsfeld still has no idea of the terrorist attacks taking place. He just thinks these are weird accidents? This is hard to believe.

No order to shoot down aircraft was authorized until 9/11 was over according to Rumsfelds' own testimony....questioned about shoot down orders on 9/11.....

Sawyer:"This is the question: Was that authorization given before Flight 77 hit the Pentagon? Was it an authorization for that plane specifically? And also, would it have been in effect for Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania?
Rumsfeld: I should add that in no instance was -- I guess the correct answer to your question is no."
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=1891
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2009, 02:22:11 am »

Remember Cheney and the question ...do the orders still stand?

He thinks he spoke to the president but gosh he just can't recall for sure, and certainly doesn't remember anything they talked about if they did talk, and he's not denying or confirming it, he just doesn't know.

"Upon my return from the crash site and before going to the Executive Support Center (ESC), I had one or more calls in my office, one of which I believe was with the President."
http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing8/rumsfeld_statement.pdf

No one was shooting down any planes on 9/11, unless it was done without authorization. I'm not sure what to think of flight 93 shot down or not but.......

The 9/11 Commission states: "Prior to 9/11, it was understood that an order to shoot down a commercial aircraft would have to be issued by the National Command Authority (a phrase used to describe the president and secretary of defense)." From The 9/11 Commission Report, p. 17.

And even though the FAA and NORAD were already aware of hijackings according to Rumsfeld he was still in the dark even when the pentagon was hit.....

When Flight 77 hit, the defense secretary thought it was a bomb.
"I had no idea," Rumsfeld said on ABC's This Week.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/16/pentagon-timeline.htm

King: It was a jarring thing. And you ran toward the smoke?
Rumsfeld: Uh huh.
King: Because?
Rumsfeld: Goodness. Who knows? I wanted to see what had happened.
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=260

And the President was busy listening to a story of a pet goat.

Both Towers and pentagon hit- Mission accomplished 3 out of 4 aint bad











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