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Kenyan Birth Certificate: Obama Birthers Latch On To Forgery

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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2009, 11:47:54 am »

The Kenyan governmet knows he was born in Kenya, they talk about it all of the time. It is common knowledge there:

Wikipedia even had this (get ready to lol): http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=103810

I do have to admit, this is pretty damn funny: http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2009/05/08/photo-proves-obama-born-in-kenya/comment-page-1/

It has occured to me that without the Internet, there is no way in hell that this would even be an issue, they would just deny/deny/deny and there would be weeks before the truth came out to debunk their lies.

I guess that is why Rockefeller has declared that the Pres can shut down the Internet any time he wants:

Bill Allows Obama Power to Shut Down Internet
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/obama-shut-down-internet-legislation,7478.html
7:41 PM - April 6, 2009 by Marcus Yam


The President of the United States is said by some to be the most powerful man in the world -- but should he have control of the spread of information.

A legislation proposed on April 1 is no joke. The proposed bill would grant President Obama the authority to shut down public and private networks -- including the restriction of internet traffic -- as part of a cybersecurity emergency plan.

The bill was introduced by West Virginia Democratic Sen. John Rockefeller and Sen. Olympia Snowe, a Republican from Maine. The aim of the bill is to unite both public and private network operators to develop regulations for what to do in case of a cyber attack.

For obvious reasons, many are concerned about what such power could mean if the wrong actions were taken. Leslie Harris, president and CEO at the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT), said in a NetworkWorld story, “This is pretty sweeping legislation. Seems the President could turn off the Internet completely or tell someone like Verizon to limit or block certain traffic. There is a lot to worry about in this bill.”

While the public sector may be used to more government regulation and involvement, such control will undoubtedly bother corporations. CDT’s Harris added that regulatory rules could force companies to all conform to a similar system, which could hamper security and innovation. For example, if a critical security flaw was found in a mandated system, then the entire network could be susceptible to such a flaw.

Corporations, particularly internet-centric companies, are keeping close watch on how this will pan out.

“We are currently studying this legislation,” said Dan Martin, a spokesman for Google. “Security has been a priority at Google from the beginning of the company – we recognize that secure products are instrumental in maintaining the trust our users place in us.”

The politicians behind the bill do clarify that this is just the first proposal and that there is still room for much revision and evolution.
“This legislation is the beginning of the process - the objective of this cybersecurity bill is to start the debate and chairman Rockefeller welcomes comments from all parties, he is sitting down with stakeholders already and he welcomes input from all those supportive of the legislation and those with concerns,” said Jena Longo, deputy communications director for the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science & Transportation.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2009, 02:01:37 pm »

Here are the criticisms presented by Olbermann...

[1] Doctor's Name is Lavender...that is the name of a cleaning detergent.

There are many definitions of lavender: Flower, color, perfume... Is this the type of argument that we should accept as rational against something so important as whether our POTUS has eligibility issues?

[2]  Number is 44,047...that 0 is really an "O" for Obama and the 44 at the beginning means 44th president and the 47 at the end is his age last year.

I do not even want to get into this, I cannot believe he actually said that on the air. I was laughing so hard I almost chipped a tooth.  I mean WTF? Wouldn't a rational researcher try to find the numbering of similar documents that were issued around the same time rather than getting all "Farrakan" about this?

[3] Date of the certificate is before Republic of Kenya ratified their constitution.

We were able to debunk this within 5 seconds of it being reported in this forum. The United States constitution was created in 1787 and ratified in 1791 (four years later) when the Bill of Rights were agreed upon.  The United States declared independence in 1776.  Republic of Kenya declared independence in December of 1963. The document was dates February 1964. There is evidence that they have been fighting for independence since 1952 and since 1962 at least they were in very high level meetings with the British Empire for Independence.

US Declaration of Independence:

"IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America"

So according to this argument, any document or account using the words "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" prior to 1791 should be considered a fraud not because of actual facts but because it used wording of a name prior to the ratification of a constitution bearing the same name.  Again, can't they do 10 minutes of investigation before spewing nonsense to 10 million on TV?

As a side note, I would like to see the declaration of independence, the constitution, and other documents from Kenya between 1952 - 1964.  It would just help as this looks like it is gonna be a wild ride with the NWO puppets.

Also this is from WND: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

But Kenya's official independence was in 1963, and any number of labels could have been applied to government documents during that time period.

At Ameriborn Constitution News, the researcher noted that the independence process for the nation actually started taking as early as 1957, when there were the first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council.

"Kenya became an Independent Republic, December 12, 1963, which gives more [credibility] that this is a true document," the website stated.

The 1963 independence is corroborated by several other information sources, including [BBC's] online African History.

Even the People Daily news agency cited, on Dec. 12, 2005, the "42nd independence anniversary" in Nairobi. "The country gained independence from Britain on Dec. 12, 1963," the report said.

An online copy of the Kenya Constitution, "adopted in 1963, amended in 1999," states: "CHAPTER I - THE REPUBLIC OF KENYA, Article 1, Kenya is a sovereign Republic. Article 1A, The Republic of Kenya shall be a multiparty democratic state…"

It was in November 1964 when the region voluntarily became a one-party state, according to an online source.

[4] The City of Mombasa is a separate independent sovereignty and not part of Kenya.

Again, this takes less than 5 minutes to research yourself. According to the same WND article: "The region including Mombasa originally was dealt with as a separate independence movement, but it almost immediately became part of Kenya when the sultan of Zanzibar ceded the "coastal strip" to Kenya, according to sources." This can be verified on Wikipedia or 100 other sources available on the Internet.

[5] Name of the city (Kanyadhining)  is spelled wrong.

Really?  I would like to know who knows the correct name of that village, how to spell it, whether written English was common in that village, and the certification of the correct name of the spelling. Also whether other documents may have also spelled the name of that village wrong.  I mean not for nothing but the name of the village is not "HOPE, TX". Also, I have no idea what was going on in the year from declaring independence and ratifying their constitution, but I would like the Obama "certification of live birth" to just name a damn city. Anyway, this issue could use more investigation but to just say "proof of hoax" based on that lacks some rational argumentative skills.

Anyway, if there are actual items of dispute, I would love to hear them.

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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2009, 11:22:28 pm »

Yeah this document is a fraud as much as the COLB.

Can't Mr. Transparency produce one simple Birth Certificate ??
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2009, 03:40:36 pm »

Canada Free Press & Northeast Intelligence Network Exclusive

Media Blackout on Obama eligibility dates back to November

Douglas Hagmann & Judi McLeod 


 By Douglas Hagmann & Judi McLeod  Tuesday, August 4, 2009

Do you remember Watergate? Thirty-five years ago this Sunday, U.S. President Richard M. Nixon submitted his letter of resignation for his role in the scandal. There was the crime – the break-in, and then there was the cover-up by the Nixon administration. There were threats, media manipulation and disinformation. It was the cover-up more than the crime itself in the aftermath of the Watergate break-in that led to the downfall of the Nixon administration. It was a politically critical time for our country, but we survived because of the strength of the U.S. constitution.

Now, we potentially face a new constitutional crisis stemming from the refusal of Barack Hussein Obama to produce a one-page document that would confirm his eligibility to hold the highest office in the land. Eligibility to hold office is not a “fringe” matter, but a core constitutional issue that lies at the very heart of a growing controversy.

Although we do not have the birth certificate or proof of ineligibility, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press have documentation of a cover-up relating to the issue of Obama’s eligibility to hold office. The proof we possess not only exposes a well orchestrated cover-up, but also provides critical insight into why the topic of Obama’s eligibility has failed to gain traction in the corporate media.

The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents, including a stunning written admission by a nationally known talk show host stating that he was threatened with his career – or worse - should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience. This document was obtained on December 10, 2008, and provides explicit detail of a “gag order” imposed on this host before and immediately following the national election last November.

After receiving and authenticating the document, US based veteran private investigator Douglas J. Hagmann opened a full scale investigation into the media blackout, with specific emphasis on tracing the blackout origins to those issuing them. This investigation was conducted in conjunction with Judi McLeod, founding editor of Canada Free Press and Brian Thompson, CFP Information Technology chief following a meeting near Toronto, Ontario last December. At that meeting, it was decided to keep the existence of the document secret until additional evidence could be obtained.

Today, after an extensive eight month investigation, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are breaking their silence and revealing explosive information about a widespread cover-up that began at the earliest stages of the Obama presidential campaign. The cover-up traces back to some of the most powerful and influential people in the U.S. and continues today.

Summary of the Evidence


As noted above, we are in possession of a written account by a well known national talk show host who details how he was prohibited to discuss the controversy of Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility as president of the United States. This signed document cites exact dates and times when he was forbidden to discuss any aspect of the birth certificate controversy, and includes direct references to the individuals responsible for such prohibitions. Further, his statement identifies the individuals who originated the orders and their positions, and confirms that failure to adhere to the order would likely end his career in that industry. He also confirms that other, less specific but more menacing threats were implied during conversations with those making the subject off limits.

Although we possess the original document containing the name and contact information of the talk show host, we have decided not to publish his name or network affiliation at this time. Based on the correspondence from this individual and respecting the nature of the threats to him personally and professionally, it is our decision to allow him to enjoy anonymity until such time as he decides to reveal the facts himself at a time of his choosing.

From multiple interviews conducted within the last eight months, we have obtained information from other sources, independent of the above, who have also been instructed to avoid any discussion of the birth certificate issue at all costs, to wit:

The account of an administrative assistant employed in New York City by a cable network news station who provided significant, detailed information of a 2008 meeting between the top network executive and four-(4) well-known news anchors. This source confirmed that she drafted the memo to the various hosts to notify them of the date, time and location of this high-level meeting at the request of the network’s top executive.

Present at this meeting, she verified that the network official issued “warnings” to the personalities “to avoid any on-air discussion of the birth place, eligibility, and news accounts of litigation compelling [Barack Hussein] Obama to produce a legitimate copy of his birth certificate.” She stated that the network executive had her arrange the conference immediately following a meeting “between [the network executive] and an attorney closely associated with candidate Obama who was acting on his behalf.”

The statement of a corporate secretary for a major news network confirming the existence of a one-page inter-office memo, bearing the markings “confidential” and “not for dissemination,” addressed and distributed to news anchors and on-air talent” that specifically instructed the recipients to avoid any discussion pertaining to the Obama birth certificate controversy. The memo was written and distributed in October 2008, and specifically instructed on-air talent to “advise guests, as necessary, to refrain from citing any news story, legal proceedings, Internet ‘blogs’ or other sources that pertain to the ongoing eligibility controversy of future President Barack Obama.”

As outlined above, our Investigation has uncovered both direct and indirect evidence of threats being made against some of the nation’s top radio and television personalities, which would explain some giving this topic mere lip service. As one source interviewed during the course of this investigation stated, “I’ve got a career and family to think about.”

Although no one should be surprised over the manipulation of the news, the nature of this manipulation, and the extent of the threats against journalists, should shock even the most well grounded.

Any reasonable person must question the motivation of the media moguls. The individuals who have – and continue to threaten talk show hosts, news anchors, and others are the top people. We are not talking about mid or upper level management – this is from the very top in all cases. If there is nothing to the birth certificate issue and the question of eligibility, why the secrecy?

Read: Does `King of the World’ need a birth certificate?


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