Obama Creepiness (Group Think…You Sensed It Didn’t You?)

[Harconen]

Obama Creepiness (Group Think…You Sensed It Didn’t You?)

Why would so many people ignore reason and obvious warning signs of relationships and positions? http://www.punditandpundette.com/2009/04/obamas-manipulation-dream-team.html judged as malleable. Sheep, robots, fence posts.
 http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1889153-1,00.html Sure there were strategists, researchers, polling all used to guess moods and intentions. What’s the difference you say? I think the manipulated rather than the assessed will jump into a mess against their better judgment. These days we are not raising people to use their better judgement are we? Sheep don’t need judgment do they…just follow the path to………..?? 
Why isn’t this pointed out by the other manipulators, the msm? Hmmm?

                             
                                           Creepy, Wrong, Dangerous, To Be Resisted 

[Harconen]

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1. Colonel Robert Neville - April 24, 2009

Dear Zip:

I imagine it’s because of this:

http://colonelrobertneville.blogspot.com/2009/03/obama-mass-dissonance-effect.html

http://colonelrobertneville.blogspot.com/2009/02/you-better-spellcheck-obama-cult.html

http://colonelrobertneville.blogspot.com/2008/12/yuri-bezmenov-communist-infiltration.html

http://colonelrobertneville.blogspot.com/2008/12/islam-murder-inc-presents-20-tactics.html

http://colonelrobertneville.blogspot.com/2008/11/papa-was-muslim-bum-and-momma-was.html

Colonel Neville.

[Krista Davenport]

Let me straighten some things out for you in America, Harconen.

First off, we have two parties here that control everything - the Republicans (corporatists/religious freaks/authoritarian/militaristic a**holes for the most part)

Then, we have the Democrats (cowardly/supposedly pro-union/supposedly pro-Middle Class/quasi-Socialists)

So, when you sit there and call everyone "sheep" that want to work within the process, you really don't know what you are talking about.  Real change takes time, and Obama (unlike some of the dictators that used to run the Balkans) is not a king, he just can't snap his fingers and make things different.  Democracy isn't perfect, but America's problems did not begin with him and he is leagues better than the last guy.  Hope that clears things up for you.

[Harconen]

Let me straighten some things out for you in America, Harconen.

First off, we have two parties here that control everything - the Republicans (corporatists/religious freaks/authoritarian/militaristic a**holes for the most part)

Then, we have the Democrats (cowardly/supposedly pro-union/supposedly pro-Middle Class/quasi-Socialists)

So, when you sit there and call everyone "sheep" that want to work within the process, you really don't know what you are talking about.  Real change takes time, and Obama (unlike some of the dictators that used to run the Balkans) is not a king, he just can't snap his fingers and make things different.  Democracy isn't perfect, but America's problems did not begin with him and he is leagues better than the last guy.  Hope that clears things up for you.

Let me straighten some things out for you in America, Krista.

First off, you have no parties at all.You have greedy people who rule U.S. and move strings with puppets on the end of it.You call that puppets "president" or else.

So, when you sit there like brainwashed sheep and think that you have freedom I have to trow up.

After democracy come to Balkan we are "fine" and "happy", like 52 state of U.S.

                                                 
                                 http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,20049.msg161272.html#lastPost


Hope that clears things up for you.

[Krista Davenport]

How would you know what America is like, Harconen?  You are in Montenegro, aren't you? 

America is filled with a bunch of greedy, corporatist people in it, but, all in all, I would pit the history of MY country and what it has done for the world over Montenegro or any other country anyday.

After all, if it wasn't for the U.S. winning the Cold War, you guys would still be part of Communist Yugoslavia and would really be having some problems.   

[Harconen]

LOL.

No, I am not in the Montenegro Krista.Your intel is outdated.
History?What history do YOU have.My grandfather's barn in the village is older than your country.
You have history of invadeing other countryes, killing people, and pirated goods.Korea, Vietnam, etc.Just in Irakq you have over 1.000.000 victims of war, after you come in, and "liberate" them from life.













You baby killers, shame on you!

[Qoais]

Right - I guess the soldiers in other armies make sure they don't kill any women and children - right?  Their bombs are made so they won't detonate if there are any women and children in the area, right?  Every other army in the world is perfect except the American army, right?  Armies are an abominatin, no matter where they are. 

[Krista Davenport]

You have nothing on me, bud, I don't shape American foriegn policy.  Most Americans were against the Vietnam, Korea and Iraq. 

Like I said, your country, Montenegro (where you said you were from) was part of Yugoslavia, which fell apart at the end of the Cold War.  So, if you like that democracy you are enjoying, you can thank us.

Just as most of western Europe can thank us (twice) for beating the Germans in World War I and World War II.  Other than the Brits, I didn't see many other countries in Europe stepping up to take them on.

By the way, those aren't even American soldiers in those pictures of yours.

And, if your grandfathers barn is really over two hundred and thirty-five years old, gee, maybe its time for him to build a new barn.   

[Harconen]

You have nothing on me, bud, I don't shape American foriegn policy.  Most Americans were against the Vietnam, Korea and Iraq. 

Like I said, your country, Montenegro (where you said you were from) was part of Yugoslavia, which fell apart at the end of the Cold War.  So, if you like that democracy you are enjoying, you can thank us.

Just as most of western Europe can thank us (twice) for beating the Germans in World War I and World War II.  Other than the Brits, I didn't see many other countries in Europe stepping up to take them on.

By the way, those aren't even American soldiers in those pictures of yours.

And, if your grandfathers barn is really over two hundred and thirty-five years old, gee, maybe its time for him to build a new barn.   

I sopose that Native Americans allso have to thank you after you exterminate them?
First holocaust it the world history was done by you, and it is a fact.
http://www.iwchildren.org/calif.htm


Allso, like Germans in World War II, you have camps for your citizens. http://history.howstuffworks.com/world-war-ii/japanese-internment-camp.htm/printable

Is thet history thet you ("would pit the history of MY country and what it has done for the world over Montenegro or any other country anyday"), are proud of it?

I see thet you are the one of the people for whom "One death is a tragedy. One million deaths are a statistic.”, so I ask you for I number of people in foren countryes that you "liberate from life", and don't tell me "You have nothing on me, bud, I don't shape American foriegn policy.  Most Americans were against the Vietnam, Korea and Iraq.".You vote for your leaders, don't you?

By the way can you vote for Obama?He haven't right to be a president, or do he?

  http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,20048.msg161263.html#msg161263

[Bianca]

Harconen,

You'll find quite a few threads about how badly the Native Americans were treated
here:

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/board,154.0.html

especially read about Geronimo.

[Harconen]

B,

This Obamanoids need to read thet, but that is off topic and they want it thet way.

We can onley Hope thet they will Change.LOL

[Harconen]

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[Harconen]

From this we see thet U.S. didn't win Cold War, cuz U.S. is going left to
That is what this Obamanoids wish to be.

[Harconen]

Unholy Alliances

This section contains resources discussing the alliances that have been formed between Western leftists and radical Islam, unlikely allies who have joined efforts to oppose America's War on Terror and its war in Iraq. These are mainly (but not exclusively) de facto alliances, much as the Hitler-Stalin Pact was an alliance of convenience based on a common interest: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The core of today's radical left consists of the ideological descendents of the communist/progressive left that wanted the West to lose the Cold War to the Soviet Union. They are the well-organized and immensely influential driving force behind the contemporary peace and civil liberties movements. Upon the foundation of its hatred for the United States, the radical left has forged an alliance with radical Islam, whose wellspring of anti-American hatred runs just as deep.

On April 25, 2005 this hatred was expressed passionately by Member of British Parliament George Galloway, who was interviewed that day by the Iraq News Network on the subject of the War on Terror and the clash of Western and Muslim cultures. Galloway was asked, "You often call for uniting Muslim and progressive forces globally. How far is it possible under the current situation?" To this, Galloway replied:

"Not only do I think it's possible but I think it is vitally necessary and I think it is happening already. . . . [T]he progressive movement around the world and the Muslims have the same enemies. . . .  the Zionist occupation, American occupation, British occupation of poor countries, mainly Muslim countries. They have the same interest in opposing savage capitalist globalization which is intent upon homogenizing the entire world turning us basically into factory chickens which can be forced fed the American diet . . .  So on the very grave big issues of the day -- issues of war, occupation, justice, opposition to globalization -- the Muslims and the progressives are on the same side. . . . [To] use an English colloquialism, 'If we don't hang together we will all hang separately.' Our enemies are very powerful and they are currently ruling the world, and if we don't stop them they will finish both of us and they will be the new tyrants, new emperors of the world for a very long time to come if we don't stop them. So it's necessary to unite these two great forces. . . . The left is weaker and the Muslims are weaker because they are not together."

In word and deed, both Western leftists (like Galloway) and radical Muslims make it plain that they consider everything about the United States to be evil and unworthy of preservation; that they wish to see American society and its way of life crushed by any means necessary, including violent revolution. Their position was well summarized by the now-infamous professor Ward Churchill, who asserted that terrorist violence directed against the United States is a morally justifiable response to what he characterizes as the U.S. government's "****" and "murder" of other peoples.

These sentiments are echoed by Osama bin Laden, who in 1998 issued the following edict: "We . . . call on every Muslim . . . to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson. The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it." 

Radical Islam seeks purification and social justice by means of jihad, or holy war, whose highest ideal is martyrdom achieved while attempting to conquer an evil worldly power such as the United States, the Great Satan (and Israel, the Little Satan). The radical Islamist's ultimate goal is to subdue the "infidel" nations and therein institute sharia, or Islamic law, so as to redeem the world for Allah. The socialist left, similarly, advocates revolution as the means of achieving its ends -- eliminating capitalism and creating a socialist paradise on earth. Whereas Islamic radicals seek to purify the world of heresies and of the infidels who practice them, the radical left seeks to purify society's collective "soul" of the vices allegedly spawned by capitalism -- those being racism, sexism, imperialism, and greed. Just as Islamic radicals seek to impose their religion on the rest of the world in a totalitarian fashion requiring unwavering obedience, so do radical leftists seek to create an omnipotent socialist state that will control every aspect of daily life and will impose a universal brand of "social justice" on all mankind.

Central to both radical Islam and the radical left is an inclination to overthrow the existing order, so as to create a paradise on earth. This end ultimately justifies any means, and any alliance, that leads there. American leftists may find the bigotry and intolerance of Islamic radicals repugnant, but their desire to rid the world of U.S. "imperialism" and capitalism overrides this revulsion and beckons them to forge their alliance. As Osama bin Laden himself declared in a fatwa which he issued in March 2003: "The interests of Muslims and the interests of the socialists coincide in the war against the crusaders."

[Harconen]

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907160021