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« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2007, 12:17:24 pm »

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The Ivan Sanderson material is a trip!
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« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2007, 12:39:03 pm »

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« Reply #62 on: July 14, 2007, 01:23:33 pm »

Hi KT

I must say you have given me a lot to think about, my understanding of the ley lines is not so technological. My thoughts on them were/are much more Spiritual... and an extension -- of the natural psychic abilities of Man/Woman. Each power center corresponds to an astrological infleunce, an aspect of our higher selves.  As an example of my understanding I describe the following: I have read that in Australia, Shaman in the last century still knew when anyone had entered their territotity.. because of the ley lines.  Another way is their use in the ancient festivals... the equinoxes, solitices... when people walked down the leys to sacred sites to celebtarate a season. Also women until recent times went to standing stones to become more fertile (in the hopes of getting pregnant). These are just examples of the way I have always thought about them... examples of how they were used. Also with the Chinese system I get a very profound feeling of the continuation of souls through this force... and the potency of ancestors because of the placement of remains.

I would like to do a thread on the chakras, also, more work on my Kundalini thread. Have you heard of Willheilm Reich... He was a famous psychologist a contemporary of Freud, and Einstein in Austria. He developed a theory about an energy that was inherent in the human body and throughout the universe. He was forced to leave Austria because of his political activism and his controversial theories about sex and the energy it produced, its necessity for health, ie. the repression of sexual energies in the body caused a holding in the body, this tension in the physical body caused by pyschological forces... led to pyschological and physical disturbances, even to the distorting of the skeletal stucture and eventually to disease.

Well he developed a theory of about a pervausive, unrecognized energy that was an organizing force... kind of anti-chaotic. He called it orgone energy... it is simply another name for ether, etc. The best description of it, I have found, I use for my tag line. Anyways his theory was that this energy was an organizing force in nature. It was very simple... like an equation... postive meets negative... charge and release remarklably similiar to Ovid's Eros -- The first force arising out of chaos.

Which he actually demonstrated as a motive force( zero point energy... in modern terms), also he was able to produce weather, ie rain.  He claimed to be the first one to create life in a laboratory. He did experiments to try and eliminate the harmful effects of radiation... but he found that when orgone and radiation were brought together they made an even deadlier combination.

Really his work deserves attention, he is one of those unsung heroes, who advocated womens rights and the sexual revolution way before it was popular in academic circles.


But I digress,

You are the first person on the forum, that I remember mentioning magic squares in a post... these are a true relic of the knowledge of the ancients, and a big clue to their understanding of the world we live in, an understanding that is so different from our own. That their science is not easily understood by us or by our scientists is because, ultimately it is foreign to our way of thinking.

Another thing I would like to mention here... yes I know... I am rambling,

is the music of the spheres and the power of vibrational energy, ( as demonstrated beyond a doubt by Tesla) and it is amazing to me that modern science is just catching on to it's power... when we have all these examples of it in classic history.. Orpheus, The Pided Piper of Hamlin, Josha at Jericho, etc. lol

Anyways you look at ancient launguages and they are more sophisticated then the modern ones... they  bring together, math, music and word... in one glorious whole. The ancient system of thought was entirely different, they were trying to find those few underlying forces that composed our universe. While we are trying to find particulars to solve the riddle of the whole. They understood about different harmonies and their effect on individuals and upon societies as a whole.

The way I think about leylines is ... to me they are like the spine of the earth, each node upon this line represents an aspect of nature... a type of consciousness/eneregy --just as the chakras in our bodies are. That they were used to revitalize the procrative/creative forces of the earth... to bring heaven and earth together, to strengthen the signal between the celestial forces and the earth.


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« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2007, 02:55:53 pm »

Unknown – Although I do not pretend to understand all the incredible intricacies of how the geometry and math of each Magic Square applied to both the site location as well as the architecture within each ley site, I do know that every single ancient site was literally "dedicated" by the use a specific magic square.  Stonehenge, for instance, was dedicated to the magic square of the Sun, Lichfield Cathedral to the magic square of Mars and Woodhenge was dedicated to the magic square of Mercury. This is an ancient practice that goes all the way back to Enochian magic, but it appears to be one that went into ley building from the remotest times in antiquity, to modern day buildings designed even today which are built to expand the ley system. Regardless of the esoteric and spiritual belief systems that surround the use of magic squares, from a scientific perspective, and particularly in regard to scalar paradigms, each magic square in some way produced architecture that acted as a "coupling devise" to the energy field of whichever heavenly body the particular magic square it was built to represent. It's extremely possible, if not probable that we are dealing with a very high tech science here that was probably "veiled" by esoteric and religious beliefs in order to hide its true function. I cannot even fathom that the Masons would have even begun to grasp the import of what they were doing. They built by inherited "belief", but today, we are finding out those beliefs were rooted in an extremely advanced system of physics.



















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« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2007, 04:18:22 pm »

First I have to say that the legends about the Lichfeild site are particularly fascinating... The bullet story and all that... I find equallly fascinating the connection of the leys to dragons in both western and eastern cultures. Although this energy that travels along the paths has been demonized in the west... associating the dragon with God's opponent, this cultural convulsion did not take place in the east.

Yes honey, but it is the science of magic... it is of a bygone era. I could be wrong... but I think you are projecting too much of the modern into the ancient. They were not technologically advanced in the same way that we are. We have the industrial revolution, behind us. Seriously I think that is why we are not finding artifacts that we recognize as technologically advanced.
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« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2007, 06:05:15 pm »



This great circle line crosses through the middle of Washington DC and the middle of Boston, and it crosses right over the middle of New York City. It also crosses over Philadelphia and the Baltimore waterfront. The azimuth of this line as it crosses over NYC is 52°, which is also the angle of the sides of the Great Pyramid. The image below is an equal azimuthal projection, also centered on New York City, with this same alignment extended in both directions.




The alignment crosses between Teotihuacan and Cholula in Mexico and just as this alignment crosses into Mexico from the gulf it crosses over the ancient city of El Tajin and the pyramid of niches. The alignment also crosses over Baalbek, Lebanon and just north of the ancient city of Troy. The alignment also crosses over Stonehenge. The azimuth of the alignment as it crosses over Stonehenge is 72° west of due north and 72° east of due south, which is not the same as the primary alignment of Stonehenge itself. However, the alignment from the center of Stonehenge to the center of the heel stone is 52° east of due north, which is the same as the azimuth of this global alignment as it crosses over New York City and the same as the angle of the Great Pyramid.



Because the equilateral azimuthal projection below is centered on the maximum latitude of the alignment at 53° 33' N, 23° 35' W, the alignment is horizontal on the image. This is the same alignment that is shown on the two maps above. In addition to the cities on the Eastern Seaboard and the ancient sites listed above, this alignment also crosses over a number of other major cities of the modern era, including Mexico City, the national capital of Mexico; Mobile, Alabama; Atlanta, Georgia; London, the national capital of England; Lille, France, Stuttgart and Munich in southern Germany; Zagreb, the national capital of Croatia; Belgrade, the national capital of Serbia; Sofia, the national capital of Bulgaria; Beirut, the national capital of Lebanon; Damascus, the national capital of Syria; and Riyadh, the national capital of Saudi Arabia.



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« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2007, 06:16:45 pm »

I don't want anybody to think that I am trying to convince people I am an expert in scalar physics. I am anything but, and frankly can barely grasp the physics behind it. My interest in the subject began initially because when reading the ancient texts. I began to take note that over and over again, there were numerous and unmistakable references to the fact that the ancients seemed to employ some sort of technological manipulation of the weather patterns over the earth, and they didn't even try to hide that fact. The descriptions of said events were just too darned technical and mechanical to accept them as mere acts of nature. So when I began to Google "weather manipulation" or "weather modification" I ran smack dab into sites discussing Star Wars type technologies, the weaponization of space, the scalar manipulation of weather and of course, HAARP. So I thought, "Okay, we can use scalar technologies today to manipulate the weather but that doesn't give me an answer on how the ancients accomplished this feat." I figured that anything as HUGE as high tech weather manipulation, particularly weather manipulation advanced enough to have produced world-wide floods as is clearly stated in many archeological texts, had to have involved a physical infrastructure and therefore it should have left behind at least some sort of physical archeological evidence. Somewhere along the line as I continued to search the Internet, I ran into a "scalar" link to Joseph Farrell's series of books which provides us with astounding scientific evidence that the Great Pyramid was designed as a scalar device. As I read those books, all of a sudden I felt like "Alice Through the Looking Glass" falling down the rabbit hole. Everything I'd ever read about Pyramid energy and the ley lines came flooding back through my mind. And, though Farrell limits his discussion to the evidence in the Pyramid alone, as a long time student of the ley system, it became immediately clear to me that if the Pyramid acted as a huge scalar device, then the energy running down the ley lines, and even the construction of the ley sites themselves, had to be scalar in principal and design. Essentially, scalar energy can be defined as the intentional manipulation of the Universal Aetheric Energy that pervades all of Space…

Farrell began his thesis on the Great Pyramid as a scalar device due to the evidence in the ancient texts that it was once clearly regarded as a weapon. In very a very concise passage he briefly explains the principals of a scalar weapon…

1.   Every object or material substance has a resonant frequency.
2.   Sound waves that are resonant to that frequency can be amplified.
3.   Once amplified, they can be projected and accelerated to that object by electromagnetic forces; rather like a radio wave carries, or is "modulated" by acoustic information.
4.   Once the carrier electromagnetic wave reaches the target, the acoustic energy enters inside of the target, resonating harmonically with it, and loading energy into it.
5.   The threshold of instability is reached and the target is disrupted at the sub-atomic level by breaking down the bond between the sub-atomic particles.
6.   It is most effective if the carrier beam as well as its acoustic modulation is itself resonant with the target.


(Joseph P. Farrell, The Giza Death Star, pp 148-149)

"Thus, if one knew the frequency of any material with proper "phase conjugation" of energy, one could conceivably initiate a nuclear reaction by loading enough vibrations into it, by causing it, in other words, to vibrate or "cavitate": violently enough to explode." (ibid 142)

Basically, in the simplest of terms, if one wanted to say, blow up your wooden coffee table, all one would have to do is find out the "resonant frequency" of said coffee table, say as an example; a frequency that beats at precisely 11.7 cycles per second, and then one would then "load" that coffee table with a carbon copy of that resonant frequency until the sub-atomic bonds within the particles of wood literally experienced an explosion, turning the coffee table to dust.

Now this is obviously an extreme use of scalar physics, but Farrell does a very good job of relating the Great Pyramid to a structure specifically designed to manipulate scalar resonant energies. But obviously, if the designers and engineers had been intent upon using it as a weapon that could literally turn the earth to dust, none of us would be here today.

Scalar technologies are basically the technology of manipulating longitudinal sound waves, which are dubbed "scalar resonant frequencies" by all the high tech science dudes. But when we drop that language back down to something most of us Pyramid freaks and leyline students can relate to, then "resonant sound waves" sure should ring bells with anyone familiar to the resonance factor so famously obvious in the architechture surrounding the King's Chamber.

Sound and resonance are extremely powerful energies. For instance, when soldiers march across a bridge, they intentionally break step, since if they continued to march in phase with each other, they would set up a vibration in the bridge that could – and often did – cause the bridge to collapse. The collapse happens because too much sound, i.e. "resonant frequency" is loaded into the bridge before it can dissipate. Although this is a very simplistic example, essentially what collapses the bridge is scalar resonant frequencies; the vibrations of plain old sound waves.

Probably one of the most notorious examples of a simple scalar device was Tesla's "Earthquake Machine" otherwise known as the Tesla Oscillator. The machine which Tesla tested was small, around seven inches long, and weighing only one or two pounds; something "you could put in your overcoat pocket". In 1898, Tesla's New York lab was nearly shaken to pieces with this little device, which operated by only five pounds of air pressure acting against a special pneumatic piston device. The whole assembly was designed to be powered by steam pressure.

Tesla was experimenting with ways to transmit motive power through the Earth! Tesla believed that large versions of these oscillators, weighing perhaps 200 pounds, and being about three feet high could transmit usable motive power anywhere on the entire planet.
We can all easily see from Tesla's experiment that manipulating longitudinal sound waves; one and the same with scalar resonate frequencies, could have conceivably allowed anyone with access to said technology to manipulate earthquakes as part of a weapons' program. 

Is there evidence that the gods of antiquity understood and regularly used scalar weapons? Oh yeah! There is tons of evidence for it, and apparently Giza wasn't the only ley site on the earth grid capable of manipulating scalar frequencies. In fact, the god most famous for it was Baal, who was known as the "evil Seth" by the Egyptians.

Baal opened the funnel in the Raised Platform.
The Window within the Great House
In the clouds, Baal opened rifts
His godly sound Baal discharges.
His godly sound convulses the earth
The mountains quake.
A tremble are the…
In the east and west, earth's mounts reel…

(Zecharia Sitchin, The Stairway to Heaven, 1983, p 161)

Is this a description of a scalar manipulated earthquake? Yep, it sure is, folks. Baal, who might best be described as the head engineer in charge of the operations at Baalbek, was one of the most hated and feared gods of all antiquity. The original temple at Baalbek, long gone now, was apparently set up from the get go as a scalar weapon, and the texts are just full of the role Baal played in the manipulation of earthquakes, massive floods and droughts. Although I will grant you, this certainly isn't the way any of us would prefer to relate to the "music of the spheres", we are still basically dealing with scalar physics which is based upon amplifying and manipulating the resonance of sound waves.
 
Although I do not want to go into another lengthy discourse here on ancient history, I can assure you that one of the greatest wars that ever took place in the Middle East was undertaken by human beings who were desperately trying to destroy the original temple at Baalbek; a structure placed on a key ley intersection that by all reckoning would have utterly dwarfed the Great Pyramid at Giza. The giant stones that formed the base platform on which the temple of Baalbek once stood are still there. Each slab of the three largest stones is immense and weighs in at an estimated 500 tons. As a comparison, the largest stones in the Great Pyramid weigh only 200 tons. Another hewn stone at the Baalbek complex still lies partly buried in the ground, apparently left there by whoever was quarrying the stones. The stone weighs in, by conservative estimates at more than 1,200 tons.






The various texts that describe the war which ultimately destroyed Baalbek indicate it was undoubtedly a scalar war. At the present Giza site, long before the present Giza Pyramid complex was ever built, another Pyramid once stood at Giza, and it too was a scalar devise, apparently built by an ancient Middle Eastern civilization that was desperately trying to destroy Baalbek. And, based upon the textual evidence concerning Baalbek, I suspect those people may have had good reason for wanting to destroy Baalbek. Today, any number of texts will affirm that both Baalbek and the original Giza pyramid were completely destroyed in that war. We know from the Edfu accounts that the oldest Pyramid at Giza was a scalar device too because the people running it attempt to defend Giza using a weapons technology described as "the Sound Eye." Personally, I think this ancient term very accurately describes a technology that was based upon scalar resonate frequencies.



The Egyptian Edfu texts that tell the tale of Sep Tepi, or "the First Time" describe part of what happened. We know that while the people trying to defend the Middle East and Egypt from Baalbek were successful in destroying the original Baalbek structure, during the battle that went on, the Pyramid that once stood there so long ago was utterly destroyed in that war, and the war ultimately ended in one of the Great Floods (there were several) described in any number of texts. The Edfu accounts tell us that the shattered remains of the ancient pyramid became the "primordial mound" over which the present Great Pyramid is built. I think it's within reason to propose that the original Giza Pyramid was destroyed because those at Baalbek loaded the original Giza Pyramid with so many scalar resonant frequencies, "the threshold of instability" was reached and the target, which was the original pyramid, was "disrupted at the sub-atomic level by breaking down the bond between the sub-atomic particles."  In other words, somebody aimed a scalar wave at that Pyramid and literally turned it to dust.

It may interest you to know that the people who were trying so desperately to defend themselves against Baalbek were not apparently the winners in that war. They may have been successful in the battle to destroy Baalbek, but winning that battle did not win them the war.

Based upon the ancient textual evidence, as well as the evidence provided in Ferrell's series of books, we can be reasonably confident that the winners of that war replaced Baalbek with the present Great Pyramid of Giza.

Also, I suggest that any one who thinks the ancients simply did not have the technology to do this, should spend the time explaining how the ancients managed to get those stones at Baalbek into the foundation plan for that site. I'd sure be interested in hearing any low tech explaination for it anybody can come up with.

Also, as the previous post clearly illustrates, Washington DC sits on the exact same leyline as the Baalbek site. Very Interesting, indeed!
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« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2007, 08:02:38 pm »

In scientific high tech jargon, a scalar vector is often referred to as a "sine wave." Sound is actually composed of sine waves, which are the most fundamental of all waveforms. A single sine wave can be described as a longitudinal sound wave that contains no harmonics. All other waveforms, i.e. resonate frequencies, can be composed out of an infinite number of sine waves. Virtually all sound equates "resonate frequency" and can be broken up into sine waves that have different frequencies and amplitudes. Since all matter in the Universe has its own resonate frequency, sound itself may be viewed as one of the basic building blocks in all matter.



As the Earth rotates on its axis, the Equator remains aligned, but the line of ancient sites describes a sine wave as a result of it’s tilt relative to the Equator. The line of the ecliptic may be observed describing a similar wave by spinning a globe that has a line of the ecliptic. The wave may also be visualized by drawing the line of ancient sites on a flat projection of the Earth.



The wavelength is equal to the circumference of the Earth. The amplitude of this wave, measured from the middle of the wave (the equator), is 30° of latitude. Recall that the 30th parallels are ½ of the height of each hemisphere, or ½ of the radius of the Earth.

Since the height of the wave is equal to ½ of the Earth’s radius, the ratio between the wavelength and it’s amplitude is 4π. Measuring the amplitude from the top of the wavelength to the bottom (from 30° N to 30° S), the amplitude is equal to the radius of the Earth, and the ratio between the wavelength and the amplitude is 2π.

The fact that we even have a series of megalithic sites on the planet that fully duplicates a sine wave is utterly mind-boggling in itself, but it's certainly there whether one wants to believe it possible or not. In my view no one could possibly believe that the placement of those sites occurred as mere accident or coincidence. The sites were obviously placed so that they would represent a sine wave, plain and simple. All anyone has to do who doubts the scalar potential in the Pyramid-ley system is look at the above illustration. The ancients appear to have left us a sign, and that sign is certainly a message to our own generation. The ancients are virtually screaming to us that they had a very advanced knowledge of scalar physics.

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« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2007, 09:17:14 am »

In 1985, the third book in Zecharia Sitchin's wildly popular, best selling Earth Chronicles series, "The Wars of Gods and Men," was published. Though I certainly don't agree with all of Sitchin's theories, I've got to give credit where credit is due, and Sitchin's third book is not only undoubtedly his best book, for the first time in probably at least 3,500 years, the world was given a very different look at the Giza complex. In that book, Sitchin provides the textual evidence found in ancient manuscripts that suggest the Great Pyramid functioned as a weapon of war. However, to frustrate and annoy all his more pragmatic readers to no end, as always, Sitchin provided no dang footnotes, and about 60% of his utterly staggering bibliography was either in French or German. All this left people like me, people who like to actually look up and read the source material, more than just a tad bit frustrated.

Then, in 1985, still another groundbreaking book about Pyramids was published; Richard Hoagland's eye-opening, best selling "The Monuments of Mars". Not only was Hoagland providing incredibly sophisticated evidence from NASA photographs that there are Pyramid structures and other archeological ruins on Mars, Hoagland, who is a brilliant scientist in his own right, began a rather detailed account of the basis for his "hyperdimensional physics" theories and left his reading audience simply spellbound. But again, in spite of the compelling evidence he presented, there was absolutely no way for any of us to prove there were pyramids on Mars, and certainly NASA wasn't forthcoming with any supporting evidence. Most people mistakenly assumed that without verifiable proof for the Mars' structures, Hoagland's theories about energy manipulation of the Universes' aetheric energy fields was equally unsubstantiated, but that assumption was wrong. Many researchers, myself included, realized very early on that with or without proof for the Pyramids on Mars, Hoagland's theories about hyperdimensional physics didn't really need the Mars' pyramid complex to be substantiated; if correct his theories about energy manipulation could be proven by the Pyramid-ley system right here on earth. Pyramid and leyline researchers around the world suddenly had a whole new paradigm to consider. And people like me who love ancient history, Pyramid research and ley hunting took off in one research direction, while another handful of researchers steeped in hard science began sitting down with their calculators in the attempt to either prove or disprove the physics behind Hoagland's theories.

Then, in 2001, the first book in Joseph P. Farrell's "The Giza Death Star" trilogy was published. Not only did Farrell tackle Sitchin's theory that the Pyramid functioned as weapon, he took Hoagland's hyperdimensional physics and proved that Hoagland was essentially describing Scalar physics; the very same physics behind the HAARP and Star Wars technologies that various governments are using today. And though Farrell's books were not nearly as well-read as the Sitchin or Hoagland material, Farrell did one thing nobody else had done. He proved it to those who were at the forefront of military weapons' technologies that the Giza complex was built as an extremely sophisticated weapon of war.

One year after Farrell's first book came out, the cement walls started going up around Giza…

New Walls Encircle Pyramidal Complex at Giza



Since the beginning of 2002, Dr. J.J. Hurtak and a European team of investigators and explorers have been recording the construction of a massive system of walls being placed around the historic pyramidal sites and the larger unexcavated area of Giza, Egypt — in total, an area covering approximately eight square kilometers. Why build these massive walls at this time?  Certainly Giza is one of the finest archaeological zones of the world.  Are there new treasures of ancient Egypt yet to be uncovered that require sophisticated technology and surveillance platforms, to protect the ongoing research along the Giza plateau?  Has, perhaps, an area been discovered that shows tracings of rare earths and unique minerals?  Or is it simply, as some officials are claiming, a move to protect the plateau from terrorists and control the masses of tourists visiting the area? 

The standard argument for the creation of such a wall is "crowd control", but the details of this new construction suggest an initiative that is both multi-purpose and grand scale: the wall near Nazlat al Salman will be, at a minimum, 7 meters (22 feet) high.  Are such measures solely for crowd control?



The walls have been built in stages.  Images taken in February of 2002 reveal the walls extending far out into the desert where, for the most part, they have not been noticeable to the average visitor. Note the foundation and the massive re-bar supports. The walls have been carefully constructed on a deep and wide foundation (at least 2 meters below ground) with iron rod poles poised to support the concrete interfaces, with room for a special attachable cover. All in all this suggests a gargantuan wall.





This barrier would enclose all major archaeological activity but would do nothing to protect the archaeological site from the strong winds that blow across the plateau. So vast is this structure that some local village homes have been removed, suggesting that what is envisioned on the plateau is more than just a restricting device for visitors to the popular site. What we see is a larger, carefully thought-out design, encompassing neighboring findings and, perhaps, protecting underground graves, tunnels and passages.



Thus, not only are the aboveground structures contained in this "new zone," but also the vast underground structures yet to be uncovered.  The extent of the walls clearly shows the detailed consideration of civil engineers and hydrological experts. (I think of the likes of the ingenious Italian architect Paolo Soleri, who designed all the ingredients for an underground city to match his aboveground city in the deserts of Arizona.)



The psychological reality of guards stationed as sentries at intervals along the entire wall carries the intrigue of a major feature film set, designed for the few experts who are to find an underground sphinx or obelisk, or a connection between Osiris and the constellation of Orion, rather than an open-door feature for thousands of well-behaved international students of history and archaeology who have never needed to be extensively controlled. 

Indeed, are the chambers of the deep being closed in the 21st century to students of world culture history who follow in the footsteps of explorers like Charles Piazzi Smyth and R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz, who entertained a higher meaning to Egyptian architecture? Are these sites now being closed to technologically gifted explorers at a time when new proto-historic findings could serve to unite the various camps of thinkers and philosophers in the Near East on the basis of a grand history for all people?
We hope that newly discovered realities within the walls will not be limited to the few, and that there will be no concealment of important historical information that could bring a higher knowledge and unity to all humankind.


Dr. J.J. Hurtak, Ph.D., Ph.D.
Specialist in remote sensing

http://www.initiation.cc/Giza_Update/giza_update.html

Folks, need I point out that this is not the kind of wall one puts up for "crowd control"? This is the kind of wall one erects around a top-secret military complex…




(Oh, and I guess I should mention for any of you who like to keep files for future reference, I think you should copy these pictures to your hard drives. In 2002, when the Giza complex walls first started going up, there were plenty of pictures of these walls circulating all over the internet, but today, they are darned hard to find, and tomorrow? Well, you just never know...these pictures could disappear off the web alltogether.)


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« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2007, 11:31:19 am »

Hi KT

It is really a shame... that they are enclosing the Giza Pyramid, there is definately something fishy going on there.
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« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2007, 01:15:27 pm »

Well Unknown, to tell you the truth, I have very mixed feelings about what is going on at Giza. If the Great Pyramid actually functioned as a weapon of war, then in truth, it may not be such a terrible shame that Giza is being walled in. Many Muslims, even Islamic terrorists, are highly educated people with engineering degrees and well-versed in physics. They can read Sitchin, Hoagland and Farrell too, and undoubtedly have. If Giza was truly built as a weapon, it is reasonable to suspect that Islamic secret societies have also secreted away ancient documents about how the Pyramid complex once worked. Personally, I don't want Islamic terrorists taking over Giza nor attempting to fire the thing up again, do you? You'd be utterly surprised at how much information about it can be gleaned from reading the ancient texts.

But on the other hand, there is a very evident US military presence at Giza, and that's been noticed now for a good many years. Since the US military and SRI are already there and have maintained their presence at Giza since the mid 60s, I think that says a whole lot. The military isn't there because they are looking for some sort of religious hocus pocus having to do with Osirus, you know. Furthermore, I wouldn't swallow Hurtak's hogwash and commentary in the above post for a single minute; the guy has had known CIA and military connections for years. He's one of the only people that still has pictures of the Giza Walls up on his website, but his commentary about them seems specifically geared to steer people away from making any US military connections. If there is anybody I could point to and say, "This person is highly suspicious of being a CIA plant whose job is to spread disinformation," James Hurtak would be near the top of that list. Hurtak was the "golden boy" and prodigal son of Andrija Puharich who was a significant team player in military intelligence during the MKUltra years. Puharich has always been actively involved in various mind-manipulation programs, experiments with hypnosis and drugs and the channeling phenomenon, and Hurtak followed right behind in his footsteps. In fact it was Puharich that attempted to hypnotize the famous Israeli psychic, Uri Geller. Geller backed away from that group very fast and doesn't have a whole lot good to say about any of them. The authors, Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince, write quite an expose' about both Hurtak and Puharich in their book, "The Stargate Consipiracy."  I’ll try to post an internet article that's from the Geller website about the Puharich/Hurtak group later on today. It's a good read, and perhaps significant, because it makes it very, very clear that many of the world's top politicians and top corporate heads are taking a very active and curious role in all "the fishy stuff" going on at Giza today. Doubtless these same people are also heavily into funding whatever secret projects seem to be going on there.

As far as I am concerned, none of us can get to the truth about the leylines until we have Giza figured out, because all leylines begin and end at Giza...

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« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2007, 02:43:44 pm »

I am not sure if this article qualifies as research or just a very juicy piece of gossip.. But this article illustrates my own concerns about what is happening at Giza. As I have stated before, the ancient texts certainly imply that one of the functions of Giza and the leys had something to do with mind-control, and the implications in some of those very, very ancient texts are so serious they boarder on staggering. When we look at the people who are now playing very, very major roles at Giza today, the uncomfortable connections with the military's think tank, SRI, and the CIA's MKUltra mind control experiments should give us all pause. When Unknown points out that there is "something very fishy" going on at Giza, that may be putting things very, very mildly. It's fishy all right! And then some!


PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE

One New Age channeling cult, above all the rest, has had a huge - very disturbing influence on hundreds of thousands of devotees worldwide. Known as 'The Nine', its disciples include cutting edge scientists, multi-millionaire industrialists and leading politicians. This exclusive extract based on "The Startgate Conspiracy" by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince looks at the sinister origins of The Nine.

"I am the beginning. I am the end. I am the emissary. But the original time I was on the Planet Earth was 34,000 of your years ago. I am the balance. And when I say "I" - I mean because I am an emissary for The Nine. It is not I, but it is the group…We are nine principles of the Universe, yet together we are one."

The declaration above is typical of the channeled pronouncements of the Council of Nine – or just ‘The Nine’. They contain all the usual New Age ingredients of grandiose statements, shaky grammar and unprovable predictions. But unlike all the other channeling cults, that of The Nine has serious clout. Perhaps the reason for this is that they claim to be the Ennead, or the nine major gods of ancient Egypt (see panel). Or could there be another reason, one that owes more to The X-Files than the Pyramid Texts?

Although The Nine may appear to be quintessentially a modern phenomenon, our research uncovered its truly astonishing pedigree. In fact, the story begins nearly 50 years ago, in a private research laboratory in Glen Cove, Maine, called the Round Table Foundation, run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich (also known as Henry K Puharich).Set up in 1948 to research the paranormal, among the noted psychics studied at the Foundation were the famous Irish medium Eileen Garrett and the Dutch clairvoyant Peter Hurkos (Pieter van de Hirk).Prominent members included the influential philosopher and inventor Arthur M Young and the socialite Alice Bouverie (née Astor).



In December 1952, Puharich brought into his laboratory an Indian mystic named Dr D G Vinod, who began to channel The Nine or ‘the Nine Principles’. In the months before Vinod returned to India, a group met regularly to hear The Nine’s channeled wisdom. Never known for their modesty, The Nine proclaimed themselves to be God, stating "God is nobody else than we together, the Nine Principles of God."
Three years later, there appeared to be independent confirmation of their existence. In Mexico, Puharich and Young met Charles and Lillian Laughead, former Christian missionaries who were by then prominent in the burgeoning UFO contactee movement. (For a description of their involvement in the Dorothy Martin circle, see Jerome Clark’s ‘When Prophecy Failed’ in FT117.) Back in the States a few weeks later, Puharich received a letter from the Laugheads containing messages received by their group’s channeler. This message also claimed to come from the Nine Principles, even – amazingly – including references to the earlier communications transmitted through Dr Vinod. Could The Nine possibly be for real?

Perhaps the answer is embedded in the career of Puharich himself. After disbanding the Round Table Foundation in 1958, he worked for 10 years as an inventor of medical devices and achieved international recognition as a parapsychologist, most famously studying the Brazilian psychic surgeon, Arigo (José Pedro de Freitas). But all that was to pale into insignificance because, in 1971, Puharich discovered Uri Geller.

At their first meetings in Tel Aviv in 1971, Puharich hypnotized Geller in an attempt to find out where his abilities came from. As a result, the young Israeli started to channel ‘Spectra’ – an entity which claimed to be a conscious super-computer aboard a spaceship. However, Puharich suggested to him that there might be a connection with the Nine Principles, and Spectra readily agreed that there was. The Nine claimed that they had programmed Geller with his powers as a young child.

Through Geller, The Nine alerted Puharich to his life’s mission, which was to use Geller’s talents to alert the world to an imminent mass landing of spaceships that would bring representatives of The Nine. However, Geller – by now an international psychic superstar – bowed out in 1973 and has resolutely turned his back on The Nine ever since. Puharich had to find other channels.

He joined up with aristocratic former racing driver Sir John Whitmore and Florida-based psychic and healer Phyllis Schlemmer. They found a new channeler – a Daytona cook known to history only by the pseudonym ‘Bobby Horne’ – who lived to regret his dealings with The Nine. Driven to the brink of suicide by their constant demands, he too dropped out of the scene – his despair being dismissed by Whitmore as "signs of instability". After this, Phyllis Schlemmer was appointed the authorized spokesperson for the entity – known simply as ‘Tom’ – who represented The Nine.

Puharich, Whitmore and Schlemmer then set up Lab Nine at Puharich’s estate in Ossining, New York. The Nine’s disciples included multi-millionaire businessmen (many hiding behind pseudonyms and including members of Canada’s richest family, the Bronfmans), European nobility, scientists from the Stanford Research Institute and at least one prominent political figure who was a personal friend of President Gerald Ford.

We also know that Lyall Watson (then the darling of the alternative scene because of his seminal 1973 book "Supernature") was involved, as was the influential counter-culture guru Ira Einhorn – and Gene Roddenberry, creator of Star Trek.




Roddenberry was part of that circle in 1974 and 1975, and even produced the screenplay for a movie about The Nine. How much he was influenced by them is unknown, although it is said that some of their concepts found their way into the early Star Trek movies, and The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine (what a giveaway!) series. (There is a character named ‘Vinod’ in one Deep Space Nine episode.) Another key player in Lab Nine was Dr James J Hurtak, who was appointed Puharich’s second-in-command by The Nine. In fact, Hurtak had been independently channeling The Nine since 1973.

Puharich and Whitmore commissioned British writer Stuart Holroyd to write an account of their adventures, which appeared in 1977 as Prelude to the Landing on Planet Earth (retitled Briefings for the Landing on Planet Earth in paperback)In this extraordinary book the true identity of the Nine – and of Tom – was finally revealed. Far from being the chummy character that his rather avuncular name suggests, Tom is actually Atum, the creator-god of the ancient Egyptian religion of Heliopolis, and Uncle Tom with his eight mates are none other than the Great Ennead of Heliopolis.  (Note: Atum is just one of the many names accorded to Ra. – KTCat)

But even with such impressive contacts, all was not well with Puharich. Lab Nine broke up in 1978 after a series of mysterious events that culminated in an arson attack on the Ossining estate, and he fled to Mexico, claiming that he was being persecuted by the CIA. He returned to the USA two years later, and appears to have played no further part in The Nine story. He died in 1995 after falling down the stairs in his South Carolina home.

However, The Nine continued. Not only did Schlemmer and Whitmore continue their mission, but Dr Hurtak has also moved on. He has become a major player in the unfolding millennial drama currently being played out at Giza, but perhaps more importantly he has established himself as a New Age guru par excellence, traveling the world giving workshops on his book of channeled revelations from The Nine, "The Keys of Enoch". Written and laid out in classic Biblical style, its darkly apocalyptic vision has huge numbers of influential devotees. This we find very worrying.



Another Nine channel – an Englishwoman named Jenny O’Connor – was introduced to the avant garde Esalen Institute in San Francisco by Sir John Whitmore. She and The Nine became so influential there that they held seminars and – unbelievably – were actually listed on the Institute’s staff, even successfully ordering the sacking of its chief finance officer and the reorganization of its entire management structure.

This should concern us, because many influential people attended The Nine’s Esalen seminars, including Russians who were part of the Institute’s Soviet Exchange program. Some of these later rose to prominence in the Gorbachev regime and were instrumental in the downfall of Communism. (The Esalen Institute now runs the US branch of the Gorbachev Foundation.)

The Nine are very much still with us. One of their recent channels, who is also in contact with Tom, is the American writer David M Myers. He is co-author with Britain’s David S Percy of that extraordinary tome, "Two-Thirds", a history of the galaxy and the human race according to Myer’s otherworldly contacts (who clearly have no sense of the absurd). Percy – best known as a champion of the ‘Face on Mars’ and the ‘hoaxing’ of the Apollo moon landings – was at one time part of the Schlemmer circle.

Among the other major proponents of the ‘monuments’ of Mars and their alleged connection with ancient Egypt is none other than Dr James Hurtak – The Nine’s great prophet – who has promoted this idea since as long ago as 1973. Richard C Hoagland – familiar to FT readers as another unrepentant ‘Mars Face’ enthusiast – is also clearly under The Nine’s spell. David Myers and David Percy were, respectively, American and European Director of Operations for Hoagland’s Mars Mission. In fact, his interpretation of the ‘monuments’ of Mars comes directly from The Nine. Flake though he may appear (increasingly in these hallowed pages), but his influence over huge swathes of the hungrier mystery seekers is undeniable. This is the man who addresses rapt audiences at the United Nations.

But it is in the New Age channeling circuit that The Nine have truly come into their own. In any other circles their true agenda would no doubt have been rumbled long ago, but this is the New Age. Anything The Nine say must be sweetness and light, right? But an objective reading of their divine pronouncements reveal the first stirrings of something very nasty in Paradise.

Their words appeared in 1992 as the book "The Only Planet of Choice", credited to ‘transceiver’ Schlemmer and edited by Mary Bennett (a one-time member of the Schlemmer circle who also edited Myers and Percy’s Two-Thirds). This has had an unprecedented influence over the New Age. According to Palden Jenkins (editor of an earlier edition of Only Planet) more and more New Age channeling groups are ‘realizing’ that the real source of their wisdom is The Nine. In fact, we have discerned what amounts to a campaign by The Nine – or their adherents – to ‘take over’ the New Age. It would be a mistake to underestimate the economic or even political potential of this vast subculture – rich pickings indeed.

But The Nine’s influence does not extend merely to New Age channeling circles. Andrija Puharich, James Hurtak and Richard Hoagland have all lectured at the United Nations in New York. And individuals connected with The Nine are also known to have influence with Vice-President Al Gore.

Of course, if The Nine really are the ancient gods of Egypt, then surely there could be fewer more significant events than their return. One may be justified in thinking that the more leading politicians who fall under their influence the better; but are they really the ancient Ennead of Egypt? Can it be that they have actually returned to sort us all out, scattering love and enlightenment from their high moral ground?

Tom, in "The Only Planet of Choice", chooses his words carefully as he explains that all the races of the Earth were seeded from space-gods – except one, the "indigenous race", the blacks. He is very careful to urge us not to make an issue out of this. After all, it’s not the black race’s fault that they have no divine spark like the rest of us.



Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the history of The Nine is its relationship to the career of Andrija Puharich. Recent research has revealed Puharich to have a distinctly sinister side. As an Army doctor in the 1950s, he was deeply involved with the CIA’s notorious MKULTRA mind control project (see panel). He – together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb – experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes… even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject’s brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel.

Puharich’s use of hypnosis is particularly interesting in The Nine circle. In the case of Uri Geller and Bobby Horne, he first hypnotized them and then suggested that they were in touch with The Nine – and lo, they were! Ira Einhorn – a close associate of Puharich’s during the 1970s – confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly directing" The Nine communications. The evidence we have gathered strongly suggests that Tom and his fellow gods originated, not in the stars, but behind closed doors as part of a CIA mind control experiment. And what happened to that experiment? Now with hundreds of thousands of devotees, some in very high places, can The Nine be deemed a success? Of course, that depends very much on what the CIA had in mind. With their subtle racist propaganda, perhaps the  New Age Nine should worry the hell out of us.

A fully annotated version of this article appears in Fortean Times 126
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« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2007, 08:53:25 pm »

Terrific article KT.... I agree with the author.  How about a new thread beginning with this article?  "The NINE: Mind Control from the CIA"
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« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2007, 06:21:15 am »

*** Hi KTCaT*** Ive just plotted the BAALEK - WASHINGTON  LINE . . . but its very approximate, I dont have my good tools with me. Can you please tell me the other major points on this line according to your sources ?       ***nD3*
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« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2007, 01:45:01 pm »

nD3 –Hmmm…Well I copied my information off of page 11 at the following site.

http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/index.html

The Baalbek to DC ley line map configuration was done using a circle map program called "GcmWin." The program was written by a dude named Roger Hedin. Below is a link to his home page and you can also find the link on page 12 at the above site. If you go on hitting the links you eventually get to a page where you can download the program that was used for free.

http://hem.passagen.se/sm3gsj/gcm.htm -

http://hem.passagen.se/sm3gsj/gcm.htm

You can also write to Roger and ask him about the program. Here is his e-mail address...nnrogerhedin-a-hotmail.com
I don't know whether Roger did the Baalbek to DC map configuration or whether Jim Alison, who runs the site at the first link, did the configuration. All I know about it is that it was done using GcmWin circle map program.

Also if you go to page 12 of the first link, http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/util.html , you will find a program called "Global Gazetteer" which has exact coordinates of over 2.8 million sites worldwide.  That sounds like a pretty cool tool…


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