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« on: July 02, 2007, 10:26:03 pm »

This is the website for Michael Cremo, of anyone is interested:



http://www.mcremo.com/


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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2007, 07:27:27 pm »






                             
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2007, 07:32:07 pm »







EXCERPTS FROM REVIEWS IN ACADEMIC JOURNALS:




FORBIDDEN ARCHEOLOGY



by Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson

Bhaktivedanta Institute



"Michael Cremo, a research associate in history and philosophy of science, and Richard Thompson, a mathematician, challenge the dominant views of human origins and antiquity. This volume combines a vast amount of both accepted and controversial evidence from the archeological record with sociological, philosophical, and historical critiques of the scientific method to challenge existing views and expose the suppression of information concerning history and human origins."Journal of Field Archeology, Vol. 21, 1994, p. 112.


 

"I have no doubt that there will be some who will read this book and profit from it. Certainly it provides the historian of archeology with a useful compendium of case studies in the history and sociology of scientific knowledge, which can be used to foster debate within archaeology about how to describe the epistemology of one's discipline."Tim Murray, in British Journal for the History of Science, Vol. 28, 1995, p. 379.


 

"It must be acknowledged that Forbidden Archeology brings to attention many interesting issues that have not received much consideration from historians; and the authors' detailed examination of the early literature is certainly stimulating and raises questions of considerable interest, both historically and from the perspective of practitioners of sociology of scientific knowledge."Jo Wodak and David Oldroyd, in Social Studies of Science, Vol. 26(1), 1996, p. 196.


 

"So has Forbidden Archeology made any contribution at all to the literature on palaeoanthropology? Our answer is a guarded 'yes', for two reasons. First, while the authors go in for overkill in terms of swamping the reader with detail . . . much of the historical material they resurrect has not been scrutinized in such detail before. Second, . . . Cremo and Thompson do raise a central problematic regarding the lack of certainty in scientific 'truth' claims."Jo Wodak and David Oldroyd, in Social Studies of Science, Vol. 26(1), 1996, p. 207.


 

"All the reasons and evidence why modern humans are not rather recent but most ancient."Cyprian Broodbank, in Antiquity, Vol. 67, December 1993, p. 904.


 


"The theme of this book is that Homo sapiens 'existed on earth millions of years ago' and that this fact has been suppressed or ignored by the scientific establishment because it contradicts the dominant views of human origins and antiquity. To prove this theory, the authors go over the history of the principal discoveries bearing on human evolution and they review much of the evidence which concerns human origins, especially that which does not agree with the 'dominant paradigm.'"Ethology, Ecology, and Evolution, Volume 6, 1994, p. 461.


 


"While decidedly antievolutionary in perspective, this work is not the ordinary variety of antievolutionism in form, content, or style. In distinction to the usual brand of such writing, the authors use original sources and the book is well written. Further, the overall tone of the work is far superior to that exhibited in ordinary creationist literature. . . . The authors base virtually their entire book on a literature search and most (though not all) of that literature dates to the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. In so doing, the authors have resurrected nineteenth-century claims of 'Tertiary Man, apparently superimposing on this a belief in the instantaneous appearance of anatomically modern Homo sapiens at some point in the very distant past, asserting that the evidence for this is at least as good, and usually better, than that cited for a much later and evolutionary origin for our species."Kenneth L. Feder, in Geoarchaeology, Vol. 9(4), 1994, p. 338.


 

"This enormous volume, 914 pages, dedicated to the hidden history of humanity, is surprising. What is, then, this forbidden archeology? Having passed the first moment of surprise, one quickly opens this book and one flips through it with interest. The first part presents the abnormal (not accepted) evidence--for example, cut and fractured bones, supposedly from man, discovered in Tertiary caves; or the eoliths that have made a lot of ink flow; or human remains found in California in the Pliocene or Eocene periods; and the footprints of humans observed in the Pennsylvanian (Upper Carboniferous) of Rockcastle in Kentucky. The authors tell about the historical records of these discoveries and the polemics they gave rise to but do not give conclusive judgments. The second part of the book discusses conventional evidence--hominids from Java and China (Zhoukoudian among others) and also the fossil man of Piltdown. Africa, with the most ancient discoveries of remains of Australopithecus, is not forgotten. There again, for about a hundred pages, the authors describe the historical records and discussions related to these fossils, including their relationship with the 'true hominids.' Three appendixes end the book. One concerns the chemical and radiometric analyses of disputed human bones. Another concerns evidence for the existence of cultures from ancient periods (Tertiary, Secondary). The third appendix summarizes the abnormal evidence for human antiquity, from the Precambrian (metallic spheres from the site of Ottosdalin in the Republic of South Africa) to the end of the Pleistocene. M. Cremo and R. Thompson have willfully written a provocative work that raises the problem of the influence of the dominant ideas of a time period on scientific research. These ideas can compel the researchers to orient their analyses according to the conceptions that are permitted by the scientific community. . . . The documentary richness of this work, more historical and sociological than scientific, is not to be ignored."Marylene Patou-Mathis, in L'Anthropologie, Vol. 99(1), 1995, p. 159.


 

"This is a catalogue and discussion of numerous Precambrian to Pleistocene fossils and artifacts accepted by some as evidence of 'anatomically modern humans.' The authors tend to credit these reports at face value and argue that these 'facts' are being ignored by the scientific establishment. . . . The descriptions and extensive bibliography of obscure references will be very useful to a 'main stream' scientist."Journal of Geological Education, Vol. 43, 1995, p. 193.


 


"This book by Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson promises to lift the veil of silence that conceals disturbing ideas on the earliest antiquity of mankind. According to the authors, Darwinian orthodoxy tendentiously eliminates archeological evidence showing that Homo sapiens is not a recent product of evolution and that he has long shared the earth with numerous apelike hominids, from which he cannot be descended."Wiktor Stoczkowski, in L'Homme, Vol. 35, 1995, p. 173.


 

"Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson are to be congratulated on spending eight years producing the only definitive, precise, exhaustive, and complete record of practically all the fossil finds of man, regardless of whether they fit the established scientific theories or not. To say that the research is painstaking is a wild understatement. No other book of this magnitude and calibre exists. It should be compulsory reading for every first year biology, archaeology, and anthropology student–and many others, too."John Davidson, in International Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine, August 1994, p. 28.


 

"Forbidden Archeology takes the current conventions of decoding to their extreme. The authors find modern Homo sapiens to be continuous contemporaries of the apelike creatures from whom evolutionary biologists usually trace human descent or bifurcation, thus confirming those Vedic sources that presume the nearly illimitable antiquity of the human race . . . . Decoding certain chipped flints or 'eoliths' as, many of them, very ancient stone tools, and recoding other evidence others have rejected either as hoaxes or natural phenomena (metallic spheres, shoe prints, iron nails and gold threads in old stone, carvings, footprints), Cremo and Thompson discern the working presence of anatomically modern humans as far back as the Cambrian era. . . . Forbidden Archeology reads surprisingly well for what is basically an 828-page critical catalogue of two centuries of archeological evidence doubted or spurned by Western scientists." Hillel Schwarz, in Journal of Unconventional History, Vol. 6(1), 1994, pp. 75-76.


 



FORBIDDEN ARCHEOLOGY’S IMPACT

Michael A. Cremo, Forbidden Archeology's Impact: How a Controversial New Book Shocked the Scientific Community and Became an Underground Classic (Los Angeles: Bhaktivedanta Book Publishing, 1998). 592 pp. ISBN 0-89213-283-3, US$35.00 (hardcover).



 

“Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson's book Forbidden Archeology . . . . argued that anatomically modern, tool-making humans have walked the earth for tens (perhaps hundreds) of millions of years and that they--not the far younger hominids studied by mainstream paleoanthropologists--are our true ancestors. The truth has been obscured, Cremo and Thompson argued, by scientists too wedded to existing theories of human origins to give a fair hearing to evidence that challenged them. Forbidden Archeology's Impact is Cremo's effort to document the reception of his earlier book. It reprints published reviews and Cremo's (mostly unpublished) responses to them, letters to and from Cremo, transcripts of radio and television interviews, and postings to Internet newsgroups. Most of this material appears in its entirety, and Cremo's use of quotations is (judging from his treatment of my own brief correspondence with him) scrupulous. His responses extend, but do not substantially alter, the positions he staked out in Forbidden Archeology. Forbidden Archeology's Impact is not, in itself, a work on the history of science. The raw data it makes available could, however, inform studies of such topics as disciplinary "boundary work," fringe science, popularization, and the intersection of science and religion (in Cremo's case, Hinduism).” --A. Bowdoin Van Riper, Isis: Journal of the History of Science Society, 90:3 (1999), p. 627.



 

   “If ever we were, we are surprised no longer by unusual book formats. Social constructivism, reflexivity, and all that is postmodern have inspired a variety of experiments in new literary forms to enliven the staid old world of the standard academic study. Inevitably, opinion varies as to whether these illuminate or merely exasperate, but as attempts to document the social process of knowledgeproduction and capture some of its reflexivity, they are both consistent and courageous. So, too, Michael Cremo's book. 

   “The ‘impact’ the book documents is that of Cremo's earlier work, Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race [FA], co-authored with Richard Thompson, and published by the Bhaktivedanta Institute in 1993. In this latest book rather than construct his own historical narrative, Cremo opts for the far more interesting strategy of directly reproducing much of the source material from which any such narrative would be constructed. The result is a multi-faceted textual kaleidoscope, in which a wide range of the many discourses surrounding contemporary science reflect and refract each other in fascinating array. 

   “The material is broken into five sections. Section one reproduces half-a-dozen of Cremo's conference papers and journal articles, serving to summarize the argument of FA and introduce his Krishna-inspired perspective. FA, it seems, provides thorough documentation of some 150 "anomalous" "bones and stones" form the fossil record. Such is the familiar stuff of popular "archaeologies" from von Daniken to Hancock, except that Cremo & Thompson drew their "anomalies" from the respected scientific literature, albeit mainly of the late nineteenth century (an intriguing more recent case being that of Virginia Steen-McIntyre's dating of the Hueyatlaco, Mexico, site in the 1970s). They claim these cases have never been adequately resolved, but simply forgotten through a process of "knowledge filtration," because they don't fit the Darwinian linear evolutionary model and time-scale of events. 

   “In the current book, Cremo adds to this an interpretation of Darwinism, which he sees as sharing essential assumptions with Judaeo-Christianity, particularly the view of time as a linear process founded in a single moment of creation (God or the Big Bang), from which humans eventually developed after (whether some days or some millions of years) other life forms. Against this, he proposes an alternative view derived from the Hindu Puranas (‘histories’)--referred to disparagingly by some of his orthodox critics as ‘Krishna Kreationism’--which has a cyclical cosmology of multiple creations spread over billions of years, in which humans coexist with other human-like species (ape-men, Yeti, etc.), although created separately. Cremo suggests that the ‘anomalous’ evidence documented in FA can be explained adequately by the Puranic model of earth history, but not by Darwinism. 

   “There is much more involved, obviously, but readers of this journal are likely to find more of interest in sections 2 to 5. These consist of reviews of FA in the ‘mainstream’ (section 2) and ‘alternative’ (section 3) literature, plus a range of selected correspondence (mainly section 4), transcripts of media interviews and internet exchanges (section 5). Much of the latter pertains to an NBC-screened program about FA, Mysterious Origins of Man, first broadcast in February 1996. 

   "Despite a good deal of inevitable repetition and redundancy, Cremo has provided here a resource of considerable richness and value to analysts of public understanding [of science]. The material covers the range from commentary, criticism and exchange with a number of established scientists (mainly geologists and archaeologists, but also some social scientists), to many well and lesser known figures from the ‘fringe’ (such as Colin Wilson), media commentators, and even a small number of the general public, and should lend itself to a variety of analytic aims. It could, for example, be used to explore issues of ‘misunderstanding,’ both of scientific knowledge claims and of processes of science; indeed, this is the argument made (ad nauseam) by Cremo's critics in the orthodox net-groups. More apparent to me, however, are the possibilities for discourse and rhetorical analysis of the boundary-work undertaken by scientists (including such strategies as threatening to boycott NBC sponsors over Mysterious Origins of Man--and I thought all this talk of ‘propaganda’ was just creationist rhetoric!) and the capacities displayed by non-scientists for sieging the ramparts. It should also make a useful teaching resource as one of the best-documented case studies of "science wars," and raising a wide range of issues covering aspects of "knowlege transfer" in a manner sure to be provocative in the classroom. 

   “For many, of course, this will all be beside the point, as, in Richard Leakey's words (used by Cremo as a form of punctuation), the book is ‘pure humbug’ and has no place in any legitimate forum. One of the interesting features of the material documented, however, is the wide range of responses to FA from within the scientific community. It is notable that this is more apparent from reviews and correspondence than from Internet exchanges. This may be due to Cremo's selection of what to include and, if there is a major flaw in the book, it is that there is no discussion of this. But it also invites speculation about the nature of ‘cyber-society’ and what norms of discourse are becoming established here in relation to those of traditional forums. Is cyberspace seen as a less formal arena than established public media, inviting a more personalized mode of expression? If so, what implications does this hold for PUS [public understanding of science]? Are scientists likely to appear more committed? Will this induce greater public support, or greater wariness and suspicion? It is notable that Cremo's own textual voice tends toward the measured dispassion of the established journal, except in some of his responses to Internet comments, where he adopts the tone of strident sarcasm used by some of his critics. There is a sense in which they (we) are all speaking the same language; paradoxically, however, it is this very unity that also divides. Cremo's new literary form adds to the documentation of this condition, but makes no clear proposal for transcendence.” --Simon Locke, School of Social Science, Kingston University, Penrhyn Road, Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey, KT1 2EE, United Kingdom, in Public Understanding of Science, 8 (1), Jan. 1999, pp. 68-69
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 06:19:00 pm »

Great stuff B ,

Reading between the lines of those reviews ,it seems that they begrudgingly acknowledge the scholarship of Cremo and Thompson but turn their nose up at the suggested implications of the work.

I find their response childish ,as if to say - It is a valid study but we don't like it so we're going to ignore it..Where's my ice cream !.
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 06:38:48 pm »





You're right, Mark.  But, think, you are only going to be 28 tomorrow:  How things have changed
since I was your age.  It was unthinkable, then, to be so controversial.......

You will see even bigger changes as you grow older.  Good for you and my grandaughter, who is
going to be 24 on the 18th.  I think I have schooled her well and, even though she's too busy
raising a family right now, you both have a brighter and freer future to look ahead to.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 07:07:21 pm »

Wow Bianca,

That was quite 'deep'. Yeah ,if we keep progressing nicely I can't imagine where we will be in our view of the world and our technology. It's a big assumption though to think that things are going to keep improving. It's up to all of us to make it work I guess.  ...But what if despite all our efforts ,nature has other plans ??  Embarrassed ,natural disaster.

You express it in such a moving way B.

I really think that Cremo and Thompson are on the right track and that their contribution will help us to avoid the future natural hazards. Ice Age?  ,Cremo does not discuss the geology but in my view this just shows how poor our understanding of the past is that we don't even know out own history let alone the Earth's history, but naturally, they are both tied together, we are trapped on Earth and have to find a way to survive what it throws at us.

... Until we can get to Alpha Centauri  Tongue   Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 07:30:12 pm »



Mark:

You are forcing me now to become a bit 'grandmotherly':

Quote:
"We are trapped on Earth and have to find a way to survive what it throws at us."


CORRECTION:

Mother Earth is trying to rid herself of what WE HAVE THROWN AT  H E R ......She has to rid herself
of the putrid 'stuff' we have forced upon her, if she is to survive (and most of us with her)..........

I may be wrong, but I would pay attention to the seismic trends in your area, for the next several
years.  Just like the folks in Naples, Italy......

On the assumption that all goes well, the Age of Aquarius is upon us and, yes, the inventions will
just keep coming at ever more accelerated pace.  The yoke of 'religious taboos' has been thrown
off for good and there will be no more threats from that quarter.......May Giordano Bruno, Galileo
and many others rejoice......

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