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Maria Orsic and the Vril Society
May 4, 2009
Published here: Monday May 4, 2009 at 7:24 PM

This is a pretty important article for future reference. Never mind that this information comes from a White Extremists Forum, it doesn’t make the information less valid. Needless to say, I do not agree with the people on that forum. Those who followed my previous blog, temporarily deleted, remember Maria Orsic. The rest of you, please just read and remember for the future. Wes.

Maria Orsic 

Maria Orsic, also known as Maria Orschitsch was a famous medium who became the leader of the Vril Gesellschaft. She was born in Vienna (Austria). Her father was a Croatian immigrant from Zagreb, her mother was from Vienna.

Maria soon followed the German national movement which was active at this time; the main goal of the movement was to annex Austria with the German Reich. In the year 1919 Maria moved to München, to her boyfriend, who became later her fiancé. It is unknown whether they married or not, because they both disappeared in 1945.

In Munich Maria was in contact with the Thule Gesellschaft and soon she created her own circle together with Traute A. from Munich and several other friends: the “Alldeutsche Gesellschaft für Metaphysik”, official name of the Vril Gesellschaft. All of them were young ladies, which among other things were against the arising fashion of short hair-styles for women. Both Maria and Traute were beautiful ladies with very long hair; Maria was blond and Traute was brown-haired. They had long horse tails, a very uncommon hairstyle at that time. This became a disctinctive characteristic in all the women who integrated Vril which was maintained till May 1945. They believed that their long hair acted as cosmic antennae to receive alien communication from beyond. In public, however, they hardly ever exhibited the hair in horse tail style. For identification, Vril members (also called “Vrilerinnen”) wore a disk which represented the two mediums: Maria Orsic and Sigrun.

In December 1919 a small group of persons from Thule, Vril and DHvSS (Men of the black stone) rented a small forester’s lodge in the vicinity of Berchtesgaden (Germany) where they met, accompanied by Maria Orsic and another medium who is only known as Sigrun. Maria claimed to have received mediumistically transmissions in a secret German Templar script – a language unknown to her – containing technical data for the construction of a flying machine. Vril documents mention these telepathic messages had their origin in Aldebaran, a solar system 68 light-years away in the constellation Taurus. She had two piles of papers: one with the Templar script, the other with a legible writing. Maria suspected the second pile would be written in an ancient eastern language and therefore she could be aided by the “Panbabylonists”, a circle close to the Thule society which was integrated by Hugo Winckler, Peter Jensen, Friedrich Delitzsch and others. It turned out that the apparently misterious language was actually ancient Summerian and hence the language of the ancient Babylonian culture founders. Sigrun, from the Vril gesellschaft helped translate the language and decipher the strange mental images of a circular flight machine.

The concept of “other science” (or “alternative science”) matured in this time and the following years. Because of the financing difficulties it took three years until the flying machine project started taking shape. By 1922, parts for the machine began arriving independently from various industrial sources paid in full by Thule and Vril.

In late November 1924 she visited Rudolf Hess in his apartment in Munich, together with Rudolf von Sebottendorf, the founder of the Thule Gesellschaft. Sebottendorf wanted to contact Dietrich Eckart, who had deceased one year before. Eckert had translated Ibsen’s plays into German and had published the magazine “Auf gut Deutsch”; he had also been a member of the Thule Gesellschaft. To establish contact with Eckart, Sebottendorff and other Thulists (amongst them Ernst Schulte-Strathauss) joined hands around a black-draped table.

Kolberg in 1940

Hess found unnerving to watch Maria Orsic’s eyeballs rolling back and showing only whites, and to see her slumping backward in her chair, mouth agape. However Sebottendorff smiled in satisfaction as the voice of Eckart started coming out of the medium. Eckart announced that he was obliged to let someone else’s voice come through, with an important message. A weird voice then identified itself as “the Sumi, dwellers of a distant world, which orbits the star Aldebaran in the constellation you call Taurus the Bull”. Hess and Schulte-Strathaus blinked at each other in surprise. According to the voice, the Sumi were an humanoid race who had briefly colonized Earth 500 million years ago. The ruins of ancient Larsa, Shurrupak and Nippur in Iraq had been built by them. Those of them who survived the great flood of Ut-napishtim (the Deluge of Noah’s Ark) had become the ancestors of the Aryan race. Sebottendorff remained skeptical and asked for proof. While Maria was still in a trance, she scribbled several lines of queer-looking marks. Those marks turned out to be ancient Summerian characters, the language of the founders of the oldest Babylonian culture.

In December 1943 Maria attended, together with Sigrun, a meeting held by Vril at the seaside resort of Kolberg. The main purpose of the meeting was to deal with the “Aldebaran project”. The Vril mediums had received precise information regarding the habitable planets around the sun Aldebaran and they were willing to plan a trip there. This project was discussed again the 22nd January 1944 in a meeting between Hitler, Himmler, Dr. W. Schumann (scientist and professor in the Technical University of Munich) and Kunkel of the Vril Gesellschaft. It was decided that a Vril 7 “Jäger” would be sent through a dimension channel independent of the speed of light to Aldebaran. According to N. Ratthofer (writer), a first test flight in the dimension channel took place in late 1944. The test flight almost ended in disaster because after the flight the Vril 7 looked “as if it had been flying for a hundred years”. Its outer skin looked aged and had suffered damages in several places.


Maria Orsic disappeared in 1945. The 11th of March of 1945 an internal document of the Vril Gesellschaft was sent to all its members; a letter written by Maria Orsic. The letter ends: “niemand bleibt hier” (noone is staying here). This was the last announcement from Vril, and since then noone heard again from Maria or the rest of members. It is speculated they escaped to Aldebaran.


Wes Penre’s note: There will be more information regarding Maria Orsic and her direct involvement in current events on the final blog site.                                                   

                                 The Aldebaran Mystery


The medium Maria Orsic was leader of the 'Vrilerinnen', the beautiful young ladies of the Vril Gesellschaft. Characteristically they all wore their hair in long horsetails, contrary to the popular short bobbed fashion of their day, claiming their long hair acted as cosmic antennas that helped facilitate their contact with extraterrestrials beings from beyond.

According to the legend of the German Vril society, a fateful meeting was held in 1919 at an old hunting lodge near Berchtesgaden, where Maria Orsic presented to a small group assembled from the Thule, Vril and Black Sun Societies, telepathic messages she claimed to have received from an extraterrestrial civilization existing in the distant Aldebaran solar system, sixty-eight light years away, in the Constellation of Taurus. One set of Maria's channeled transmissions was found to be in a secret German Templar script unknown to her.

A second series of transmissions appeared to be written in an ancient eastern language, which Babylonian scholars associated with the Thule group, recognized as ancient Sumerian. Maria Orsic along with Sigrun, another of the Vril Society's female mediums, began the task of translating these transmissions and discovered they contained instructions for building a circular flight machine.

However, it should be important to consider the possible motivation behind the Aldebaran civilization's offer to assist the Vril Group and Germany. Researcher Wendelle Stevens tells us that, rather than a militant gesture of aid to aggressive Nazis, the Aldebarans perceived an economic disparity in Earth cultures that fueled perpetual wars and conflict. To alleviate this disparity the Aldebarans reasoned that by offering 'free-energy' technologies, used to create affordable mass transportation devices, a new innovative generation of industries, promoting prosperity and greater peaceful interaction between nations might result; thus diminishing violent wars.

Clearly such a plan resonated with members of both the Thule and Vril Societies and their dream for a New World based on 'alternative science'.

Upon studying these otherworldly, esoteric designs, Dr. W. O. Schumman and his associates from the University of Munich realized the channeling actually contained viable physics, and over the ensuing years construction was initiated to make this flying machine a reality. By 1922 development of a working prototype was underway.

Meanwhile, Germany saw the inception of the National Socialist Party and Adolph Hitler's rise to power, fueled in part by the utopian visions of a new world order inspired by the Thule and Vril Societies. By 1934, the first manned test flight of the RFZ-1 took place. However, the results were less than auspicious. Flown by intrepid World War I ace, Lothar Waiz, the craft wobbled to altitude of 60 meters and upon landing, the pilot, managed to escape from the craft just in time before it spun out of control, ripping to pieces like a drunken top.

Before the end of that year a much-improved version, the five meter RFZ-2, was test flown successfully and eventually flying disc development was taken over by Division SS E-IV of the Nazi military. The fundamental physics were as simple as a child's spinning gyroscope-circular discs spun in counter-rotation create an anti-gravity effect; an effect as timeless as that described by the Old Testament prophet Ezekiel and his 'fiery chariot'-"a wheel within a wheel. " Had he been witness to a flying machine from Aldebaran?

Contrary to his professed aim to create a world of cosmic harmony, Hitler sent his Panzer tanks and infantry into Poland in 1939, thus precipitating the altogether destructive Second World War. And despite the fact that he also outlawed all secret societies in Germany, the Thule and Vril Gesellschafts maintained their autonomy, and development of Vril levitating saucer craft continued, despite funding competition from conventional Luftwaffe war-production imperatives.

Aero-Technical Unit V-7 designed a number of hybrid saucers that combined both exotic anti-gravity and conventional turbojet propulsion systems, creating vertical lift craft that were essentially precursors to modern helicopters.

However, the distinctly separate SS E-IV Unit, bore the sole responsibility of developing Hitler's dream of free-energy propulsion. By 1941, the successful Vril-2 levitation craft was employed for transatlantic reconnaissance flights. The RFZ-2 craft employed the "Schumman-Levitator" drive for vertical lift and when activated, the craft displayed effects commonly described in many UFO accounts; blurring of visible contours, and luminous ionization colors relative to the craft's engine acceleration; varying from orange to green, blue to white. As well, the craft made radical 90 degree turns characteristic of UFO flight.

Tragically, the Reich diverted the peaceful intent of the Aldebarans's levitation technology. Following the success of the RFZ-2, a single pilot combat model was designed. The advanced Vril-1 Fighter was capable of 12000 km/h with full speed right angle turns with no adverse G-effects on the pilot. Since the craft flew in a self-contained envelope of its own gravitational field, the pilot experienced no sense of motion or inertia.

Subsequent levitation-craft advances between 1941 and 1944 spawned the "Haunebu" series, the 'heavy hitters' of Reich's saucer fleet. Development of powerful tachyon magneto-gravitic drives-"Thule-Tachyonators" (speculated to be large spheres of vertically rotating mercury)-allowed design of 75 foot diameter armored saucer ships equipped with armaments such as Panzer-tank cannon turrets mounted to the underside. Other craft were equipped with klystron laser cannons.

By Christmas of 1943, medium Maria Orsic of the Vril Gesellschaft, claimed that subsequent transmissions from Aldebaran revealed there were two habitable planets orbiting that star and that the ancient Mesopotamian civilization of Sumeria was linked to earlier colonies of Aldebaran explorers. The seers discovered that the Aldebaran written language was identical to that of the Sumerians and was phonetically similar to that of spoken German.

It was also revealed that a 'dimension channel' or 'worm-hole' existed connecting our two solar systems. Thus in January of 1944, possibly aware that Germany's war efforts were faltering, Hitler and Himmler authorized an audacious plan to send a Vril-7 saucer ship into the dimensional channel, perhaps to secure assistance from the Aldebaran civilization. The venture resulted in near disaster, the Vril-7 returned with its hull reportedly aged as if it had been flying for a hundred years and its surface damaged in several places.

Meanwhile, the Allies sampled an unpleasant taste of the deadly weapons potential of German saucers. In 1944, a massive bombing raid was launched against the critical ball-bearing plant at Schweinfurt. Within a matter of hours a squadron of ten to fifteen Nazi discs managed to shoot down as many as one hundred and fifty British and American bombers-one quarter of the entire bomber contingent. Still, facing overwhelming odds, the crumbling Reich lacked sufficient saucer squadrons to turn the tide.

With the military fate of the Reich in doubt, an ambitious, energetic General rose within the SS inner circle elite to a level of power that rivaled perhaps that of even the Fuhrer himself. Hans Kammler, a protégé' of Heinrich Himmler, had earned a reputation with his skills for rapid development and implementation of underground manufacturing facilities, and vast mobilization of slave labor consignments from concentration camps.

By 1945 Kammler had secured control over all top secret SS projects that were missile or 'aircraft' related. Certainly, Vril projects would have been one of his foremost priorities.

Cunning and shrewd, Kammler easily bore the qualifications to mastermind construction of 'special projects' facilities at the South Pole. And as of April 17, 1945, Kammler disappeared from Germany, presumably escaping capture aboard a lumbering, six-engine Junkers 390 cargo plane bound for an unknown destination.

Neither was military assistance forthcoming from Aldebaran, but perhaps safe haven was offered instead, as a massive 250-foot diameter Haunebu III dreadnaught armed with four, triple-gun, heavy caliber naval turrets and capable of space flight was allegedly completed by April of 1945.

With the specter Russian, British and American armies all relentlessly advancing on the German heartland, supplies, scientists, and saucer components were being steadily evacuated from Europe by U-boats to secret enclaves in Germany's Antarctic colony-Neuschwabenland.

"None are staying here."

Just one month prior to the Haunebu III's completion a cryptic message was sent by Maria Orsic to all members of the Vril Society, simply stating:
"None are staying here."

The psychic medium Maria was never heard from again, perhaps having escaped -like Kammler- to South America, the Antarctic, or possibly even… Aldebaran!

The question remains, was she Kammler's collaborator or captive?

Admiral Richard E. Byrd & Sec. Of Defense James Forrestal

Coordinated "Operation High Jump" (1947)

By inevitably seizing the rocket facilities and personnel at Peenemunde, the advancing Allied Army leadership was only too well aware of how dangerously advanced German technology had become. Despite the Third Reich's unconditional surrender in 1945, a potential Nazi threat still haunted Allied intelligence.

Had the German High Command sacrificed its European operation to buy time for installation of a 'fall-back' position in the Antarctic, capable of launching future retaliations from its South Polar redoubt? Post-script to this legend is the account of "Operation High-Jump".

In January of 1947, an American military task force, "Operation High-Jump," complete with thirteen ships including, an aircraft carrier, seaplanes, helicopters and 4000 combat troops was dispatched to the Antarctic under the command of Admiral Richard E. Byrd for the stated purpose of 'mapping' the coastline. This task force was provisioned for an eight-month polar stay, but after eight weeks and an undisclosed loss of planes and personnel, Byrd withdrew his forces.

Rumor was Byrd encountered overwhelming hostile action, he described as, "fighters that are able to fly from one pole to another with incredible speed. " He also intimated that he had in fact engaged a German contingent being assisted as well by an 'advanced civilization' with formidable technologies… Whatever occurred with Byrd's expedition at the South Pole remains shrouded in mystery since all reports, including Byrd's personal log entries, remain classified.

Also, it should be noted that Operation High-Jump was originally organized by Secretary of the Navy, James Forrestal. But later, in 1949, then Secretary of Defense Forrestal was sequestered and sent to convalesce for a nervous breakdown at Bethesda Naval Hospital.

However, after allegedly ranting to hospital staff about the Antarctic, UFOs and an underground Nazi city, Forrestal was denied all visitors and shortly thereafter, died in a fall from his hospital room window. His death was labeled a 'suicide'.

But again, considering the question posed at the outset of this essay, could the 'advanced civilization' suggested by Byrd be the same extraterrestrials alluded to by both Von Braun and Oberth? Could these "people of other worlds" be Germany's mysterious allies from Aldebaran?

Such is the legend of 'Vril' and the Third Reich's levitating disc projects. Of course, had all discussion of 'flying saucers' ended in 1945 it would be perfectly simple to dismiss the whole myth as preposterous nonsense. However, as we well know, persistent reports of UFOs and circular flying craft have remained a ubiquitous enigma worldwide for all the decades since World War II. And as long as this mystery goes unanswered the riddle of Nazi saucers will remain an urgent paradox that spins a kaleidoscope of demanding questions.

Viewed from the aspect of classical physics, the whole myth is easily dismissed as fanciful rubbish; the fairy tale notions of occult channeling with space brothers from Aldebaran, and Nazis armed with flying saucers and ray-guns sounds like the most outrageous science fiction!

However, this same legend reconsidered from the radically altered view of Quantum physics takes on dramatic plausibility!

Was the Vril Society simply making practical application of the 'Unified Field"?

Is Vril or "the unity in natural energetic agencies" that Edward Bulwer-Lytton described, far from pulp fiction, but a remarkably accurate description of Zero-Point Energy that pervades the entire universe?

Did ancient lost civilizations of Earth share understanding with extraterrestrial civilizations among the stars that the universe is in fact a single consciousness and simultaneously an ocean of limitless energy? Could it be that a handful of daring German visionaries discovered secrets of harnessing this energy?

And ultimately, who were the REAL victors in World War II?

Did a contingent of German physicists and engineers and military personnel successfully drop off the grid in 1945 and establish a new colony, totally self-sufficient and independent of the global petroleum cartels? And are the fundamentals of free-energy production fully known and deliberately withheld, at the cost of destroying our environment, merely to serve the greed of multi-national corporate and banking interests to this day? And is this 'free-energy' propulsion the ultimate secret behind the UFO cover-up?

Kenneth Arnold's "Flying Saucer" (above)

Compared with Nazi's Flying Wing design

Of course, in the years immediately following World War II, the German saucer mystery compounded even more. In June of 1947 a private pilot named Kenneth Arnold reported a formation of nine shiny objects speeding along at an unprecedented speed of 1600 mph in the vicinity of Mt. Rainier, Washington. In Arnold's words, the craft flew "like a saucer would if you skipped it across the water."

Hence the press seized upon his words and launched the public fascination with "Flying Saucers". However, Arnold actually described the craft as more crescent shaped, like 'flying wings'-which coincidentally was another air form perfected by the German Horton Brothers, during the war. It was suspected that captured German aircraft were being studied in a joint U. S. /British facility in western Canada close to Washington state.

Four months later, in September of 1947, just eight months after Admiral Byrd's aborted mission to the Antarctic, the Strategic Air Command undertook a detailed mapping and reconnaissance mission of the North Pole. An extensive B-29 support base was established at Ft. Richardson, Alaska.

But aside from cameras, these bombers were crammed with state-of-the-art, electro-magnetic scanners, sensors and magnetic emissions detectors. And, just as Byrd described, 'high-speed craft capable of flying from pole to pole', were again encountered at the Arctic as well. Debriefed flight crews reported seeing metallic vertical lift saucers parked on the ice packs, flying in and out of the water as well as dogging the B-29s.

All evidence, tapes, film canisters and documentation were immediately classified and rushed back to Washington D. C.

According to the captured records, the Germans also had plans to build a 'Zeppelin'-sized levitating cylinder ship called the "Andromeda" machine. This 330-foot behemoth was capable of carrying as many as three of the smaller Vril and Haunebu scout ships. In the early 1950's a California man named George Adamski photographed a UFO remarkably similar to this design.

Later, Adamski claimed to have contact with a 'Nordic' looking extraterrestrial near Desert Center, California, who claimed to be from the planet Venus.

However, it should be noted that photographs of the little scout craft this alien flew show a design virtually identical to the German Haunebu II. Though Adamski was later debunked as a fraud, reports of UFOs identical to the 'Venusian scout ship' continued to surface worldwide.

In 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower was allegedly secreted away to a meeting with Extraterrestrials at MUROC airfield near Palm Springs, California. One particular group was reported to be 'Nordic' looking and they offered Eisenhower Free-Energy technology in exchange for nuclear disarmament-Ike declined! And as the story goes, these 'Nordic' ETs subsequently met with Pope Pius XII at the Vatican as well.

And of course it remains common knowledge that during the war Germany had cordial relations with Argentina and other Latin American countries, and by a curious coincidence even today UFOs are commonly reported the full length an breadth of South America, along with tales of hidden German bases in the ice peaks of Peru and the vast jungles of Brazil.

But perhaps the most blatant inference of a German connection with UFOs comes from the famed Billy Meier case in Switzerland.

In 1975, thirty years after the disappearance of the Vril Society leaders, a Swiss farmer claimed to have contact with a girl from the 'Pleiades', who bore the pseudonym, "Semjase" and a striking resemblance to the 'Vrilerinnen' from 1919.

This space girl also wore long blonde hair, spoke in fluent Austrian-German and candidly shared comprehensive knowledge about the German saucer projects of World War II.

Were Semjase's 'beamships' actually contemporary versions of the old Haunebus?

And yet, the riddle remains that, were the surviving modern remnants of the Third Reich to actually possess such vastly superior technology, why then would they not simply flex their muscle and conquer the world in one final swift stroke?

Or did they realize such a victory might ultimately be a futile gesture?

Suppose the Reich survivors learned from their Aldebaran mentors the secret the ancient Sumerians possessed-that, in a regular 3600 year cycle, the surface of planet Earth is devastated by the passing of a dwarf-star which is companion to our solar system. And that this Dark Star was calculated once again to swing through the inner planets during the early years of the 21st Century. Such a monumental event would grant the "Thousand Year Reich" a meager seventy years or so life span. Thus might the Reich survivors not wisely choose to disappear from the surface world and develop hardened underground 'shelters' in the remote wastes of Antarctica, patiently preparing to safely ride out the Dark Star's passing?

Do we dare suppose that a contemporary generation of subterranean Reichskinder secretly continue to advance their limitless scientific wonders, content to allow the ignorant, expendable 'surface dwellers' to choke in the poisoned atmosphere of their internal-combustion, junk-technology, automobiles, airplanes and industries?

Could it be that all the incredible levitating machines and free-energy technologies envisioned by the Thule and Vril Societies are being carefully held in reserve for the promised 'New Age'; a future time when Earth has recovered from the agonies of its Dark Star's encounter?

We may discover the answers to these questions sooner than we realize!

Meanwhile, the quest to solve the mysteries of Nazi saucers and the secrets from Aldebaran, certainly has gained more relevance to our present world here in the first decade of the 21st Century. It seems an irony that, much like pre-World War II Germany, we find Western Civilization dangerously dependent upon foreign petroleum sources dominated by hostile Muslim nations. Is there a free-energy/anti-gravity answer to this dilemma?

The Vril Discs

Series 1-11


                                                      By Rob Arndt

The Vril motto “Not all good comes from above” summarizes the entire history of the Vril Gesellschaft (Society) from its inception to the final days of WW2 when this occult group seemed to vanish right off the face of the earth.

The historical Isias the DHvSS worshipped


The name Vril is the shortening of “VRI-IL” which means “Like God”. Officially Vril was “The All German Society for Metaphysics” which merged with the Thule Gesellschaft and the obscure DHvSS (Men of the Black Stone) in the year 1919.


Each occult group had its own distinct beliefs and origins.

Thule Gesellschaft Symbolism 

The DHvSS (1912) worshipped the German mountain goddess Isias and the Schwarz Stein (black stone). The Thule Gesellschaft (1917) believed in the hollow earth theory and derived its name from Ultima Thule the ancient capital of Hyperborea at the top of the world. Vril worshipped the Black Sun (the invisible inner light of the Godhead) which supposedly gave or generated incredible power and communicated with Aryan aliens living in the Aldebaran system through psychic channeling.

Aldebaran sun,
the Bull's Eye of the Taurus Constellation

Aldebaran, a giant red star, is part of the Taurus Constellation and is known as the “Bull’s Eye” due to its position in the heavens. As the “Star of Illumination” it is also known as the “Way” of spiritual enlightenment which the mediums of Vril desperately sought.

But unlike the other two groups the Vril Gesellschaft were an inner circle of women who were also fighting against their times and culture. They were psychic mediums that wore a horse-tail hairstyle. They believed that their long hair acted as cosmic antennae to receive alien communication from beyond. which started post-WWI with Thule medium Maria Orsic.

The “Way” of the Aldebaran star


Confused by the strange language and mental images she was receiving through psychic channeling, Maria Orsic of Thule joined with the Vril Gesellschaft which brought in another psychic medium named Sigrun to help translate the alien language (which turned out to be ancient Sumerian) and decipher the strange mental images of a circular flight machine for making contact.


Valkyrie Maiden

Sigrun was not the Vril medium’s true name but is derived from Sigrune - one of the nine daughters of Odin and a Valkyrie.

So this is where the Vril disc story begins.


Despite their distrust of men, the women of Vril joined with the Thule Gesellschaft and DHvSS in order to construct an inter-dimensional channeled flight disc known as the JenseitsFlugMaschine (JFM). By 1922 the odd disc shaped machine was constructed in Munich and tested for two years. It is not known if any success with channeled flight was ever achieved but a certain W.O. Schumann of the Technical University of Munich invented a levitator from the channeled JFM information provided by the mediums Maria Orsic and Sigrun. By 1924 the JFM project was scrapped but work continued on perfecting the levitator unit known by then as the Schumann SM-Levitator.


With the Nazi Party in power in 1933 (which itself originated from the Thule Gesellschaft) the occultists now received official backing for their continued development of the flight discs. Thule and Vril started with the RFZ (RundFlugZeug, or Round Aircraft) series from 1937-41.


As war had started in 1939 the RFZ-5 became the Haunebu I and by 1941 the RFZ-7 had become the Vril 1 Jäger (Hunter). The reason for the changes were due to Thule’s revolutionary Triebwerk (Thrustwork) engine that used rotating electro-magnetic-gravitic fields to affect gravity. Vril had by 1941 perfected the SM-Levitator as well and thus two new series entered limited construction, but with slightly different goals.

Thule wanted to develop both a production combat craft and a functional Raumschiff (Spaceship). Vril, by comparison, only wanted to develop Raumschiffe to reach Aldebaran in the Taurus Constellation 64 light years from earth.

As Hitler had forbid secret societies in Germany from 1941 forward, both Thule and Vril were documented under the SS Technical Branch Unit E-IV (Entwicklungsstelle 4) tasked with developing alternative energies. This unit had already helped with the RFZ series but now “officially” Thule and Vril did not exist.  Vril became known secretly as “Die Kette” to both their Abwehr and Ahnenerbe (Ancestral Heritage Research Department, a.k.a. Nazi Occult Bureau) connections.

Illustration of Vril “Z-Plan” of future return to earth in the early 21st century


Symbol of the Ahnenerbe

“Die Kette” translates into “The Chain” which referred to the mental “circular link” of the Vril Chefin (Boss). For identification, Vril members wore a Doppelsignet disc that represented the two mediums Maria Orsic and Sigrun.


Vril Doppelsignet Disc
   used for ID purposes

Canaris Abwehr

"The Chain"
symbol showing the German Eagle with the Black Sun disc and underneath a chain representing Vril

Vril can also be recognized by the Canaris Abwehr late war “Black Sun” Adler holding the black sun wheel (instead of the Hakenkreuz circle) which sits on a chain underneath it. This late war symbol represented a secret Z-Plan (Z meaning Zukunft, or Future) devised by Canaris and the Vril Chefin.

The “Future Plan” was for the Third Reich to survive outside of Europe and re-emerge in the far future from either another location on earth or from the stars if a Raumschiff could be constructed in time before the collapse.

The first purely Vril disc - the Vril 1 Jäger (Hunter) was constructed in 1941 and first flew in 1942. It was 11.5 meters in diameter, had a single pilot, and could achieve 2,900 km/h - 12,000 km/h! It flew with a metal dome at first but subsequent test versions had a heavily reinforced glass dome and could seat two crew. Flight endurance was 5.5 hrs. It was planned to arm this craft with two MK-108 cannon plus 2 MG-17 machineguns. Seventeen of these craft were constructed and tested between 1942-44 with 84 test flight.

The Vril 2 Zerstörer (Destroyer) was a highly advanced oval shaped disc that was much too complex for the time period; thus it was projected for 1945/46, so no construction was started. The Vril 3 and 4

Vril medium drawing of Vril-7 from 1943

have been photographed but no surviving information is found on them. Vrils 5 and 6 likewise do not show up and may have only been projects. The Vril 7 and 8, however, were constructed.

Vril medium drawing of Vril-7 from 1943

The Vril 7 Geist (Ghost) was 45 meters in diameter and crewed by fourteen men. It was built in 1944 and tested at Arado-Brandenburg using Vril‘s own Triebwerk. Like the Vril 1 the Vril 7 Geist was designed for channeled flight. One machine was sent through from Arado but returned seriously damaged beyond repair. It is not know if the craft was manned or not but the Victalen hull was severely warped and the drive disabled. 

Arado E.555 strategic bomber project
[Revell Models box art]

Vril’s medium Sigrun made frequent trips to the facility to oversee construction and testing. In 1944, Arado engineers approached her with a request. They wanted to know if the Vril Triebwerk could be adapted to one of their projects - the Arado E.555 strategic bomber. They were abruptly told, “No” and returned to their designs which resulted in eleven different versions of the bomber. Sigrun was actually insulted because the entire purpose of the Vril discs was aimed at space flight.

No conventional bomber could withstand the heat of the velocity achieved by these machines which were constructed of hulls specially made of an advanced metal called Viktalen (in some sources Victalen or Viktalon). The Vril 1 had a single hull of this type, the Vril 7 two. The large Haunbeu III had three! Besides, Vril could not afford to waste any valuable time diverted to strategic bomber projects aimed at attacking America or the Soviet Union. Such ventures were futile despite the 1945 resurrection of the Sänger hypersonic bomber project and the RLM ordered construction of a Horten XVIII flying wing bomber!

With the SS supervising all aspects of the disc programs every model had to have at least theoretical provision for armament. In the Vril 7 Geist it would have been four MK-108 cannon.


The Vril 8 Odin was the last official Vril disc that was flight tested in the spring of 1945 during the collapse. This disc had an automatic Oberon upward-firing gun installation on top of the control center.

Vril 1 and Vri 9

Some weeks after Germany surrendered. however, both Haunebu and Vril craft were spotted in the skies over occupied Germany.


Although the Vril 9 Abjäger (Universal Hunter) was shown only as a design on paper, a craft identical to it was photographed postwar, and there are claims of a spacecraft Vril 10.


Much documentation and original design work performed by Vril was deliberately destroyed prior to departure from Germany. Both a Vril 10 Fledermaus (Bat) design and a planned Vril 11 were among the incomplete material recovered by the Allies in 1945 (much of it rescued from flames).

Although almost no material remains on the Vril 11, the Vril 10 can be described as follows: a large disc, approximately 60 meters in diameter of heavy Victalen construction. The “Bat” name was given due to odd-shaped tower structure up top with long curved outward sides and curved downward disc tips below the central body. Reinforced glass view ports are located in main disc tower. This disc was designed to carry /transport either some exotic orb weaponry or cylindrical passenger pods - hard to tell from fragmentary sketches and brief descriptions. Since the other Vril discs lacked any load-carrying ability it appears that the Vril 10 was intended as a supply transport.

The larger Vril 11 was only known as the “Teufel” (Devil). Fragmentary information speaks of a “Devil’s Gate” associated with this disc and depicts other un-named “horned” craft with bulbous units at the rear along side it. What these are remain unknown and the purpose of the Vril 11 is unclear.

There is an an obscure drawing of the Vril  DORN Verteidiger (literally, Thorn Defender) and there was a sighting near Pescara, Italy in the 1960s - Project Bluebook #16 match -  matching DORN almost precisely and an unknown postwar Dornier (DORNier?) SST proposal!

Vril Letter of Departure for Aldebaran, March 1945

Vril’s final plan was the construction of a large 139 meter long cylindrical Raumschiff known by the SS E-IV Unit as the Andromeda-Gerät. Work on this “flying cigar” was to commence in 1945 at a huge, sheltered above-ground Zeppelin-like hangar. Once completed it could internally accommodate one large Haunebu IV and two Vril 2 craft, making the journey to Aldebaran, the ultimate dream of the Vril Gesellschaft.

Depiction of Freya 

Due to the SS E-IV commitment to various other Thule and Vril disc projects a sub-division unit referred to as the E-V (E-5) was created to work only on these two machines. It is reputed that the nicknames for these two craft were “Freya” and “Freyr”- after the old Norse Gods.


One machine (Freyr) was discovered by the US Army in 1945 uncompleted with its propulsion system and sensitive navigation equipment removed. The large craft, painted overall gray with no markings, was in a state of hurried construction that turned into dismantlement once Allied troops were in the area. It was approximately 300 feet long (not fully assembled), resting on skids for support. The cockpit was not immediately discovered until someone actually climbed up on the machine and discovered it. All sensitive navigation equipment as well as the exotic propulsion system (that apparently was not of the Thule or Vril Triebwerk design) was hastily removed during evacuation from the site; thus, some sections of the craft were damaged except the two huge empty bays designed to carry the Haunebu and Vril advanced models. Looking at the strange craft from a side angle made it appear to be an uncompleted radio tower at first as US Army soldiers were the first to spot strange antennas protruding from the craft. Only upon further inspection was it realized that this was indeed a flight machine of extremely advanced design incorporating what has been speculated postwar as a photonic drive system (although official SS E-IV documentation lists four Thule Tachyonator 11 units as primary propulsion). The machine was developed by the SS E-IV unit as a Raumschiff (Spaceship) at Vril’s request.

Wraith Symbol

S.O.E. Symbol

MI5 Occult Bureau Symbol

Although these mysterious craft seem to come from the realm of science fiction it is interesting to note that once Germany was occupied and the military Intel teams swept through the defeated nation all documentation and evidence of the Vril Gesellschaft was destroyed by the Allies. If the occult Society and craft never existed and did not represent any threat to the Allies then why has all trace of their existence been forcefully carried out by the victors?

It should be noted that Britain also had an official Occult Bureau, a branch of MI5 that operated before the war investigating paranormal activity in various nations. Upon the outbreak of war in 1939, the Occult Bureau privately funded and formed a special group of commandos for raids against the Abwehr and Ahnenerbe. The commandos were called “Wraiths” and at least some had come from S.O.E. as the war progressed. It is not known what their primary mission was but intelligence gathering, capture of foreign equipment, and sabotage was suspected. They certainly knew of the occult Thule and Vril Gesellschafts in addition to the SS E-IV unit.

The British also sent commandos to raid secret German bases in the Falklands and established their own Naval and ground presence in Antarctica to spy on German activity there. It may be no coincidence then that it was Britain that captured the bulk of the SS E-IV documentation not destroyed before evacuation.

Not all good comes from above.

For Vril it came “from beyond… 64 light years from earth” and it was this obsession that lead to ALL of the occult German disc programs. One can only wonder if any of them truly made it to their ultimate destination.


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