Atlantis Online
October 20, 2014, 05:48:20 pm
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: DID A COMET CAUSE A FIRESTORM THAT DEVESTATED NORTH AMERICA 12,900 YEARS AGO?
http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,1963.0.html
 
  Home Help Arcade Gallery Links Staff List Calendar Login Register  

NYC Terror Case Latest Of Many Homegrown Plots - UPDATES

Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: NYC Terror Case Latest Of Many Homegrown Plots - UPDATES  (Read 86 times)
Bianca
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 41646



« on: May 21, 2009, 09:02:17 pm »








                                   NYC terror case latest of many homegrown plots
           




 
Associated Press Writers
Michael Hill And
Jim Fitzgerald, Associated Press Writers
– May 21, 2009
NEWBURGH, N.Y.

– The four men were ex-convicts who envisioned themselves as holy warriors, ambitious enough to concoct a plot to blow up synagogues and military planes, authorities said. But they were amateurs every step of the way. They had trouble finding guns and bought cameras at Wal-Mart to photograph their targets. One was a convicted purse snatcher, another smoked marijuana the day the plot was
to be carried out.

Muslims fueled by hatred of America and Jews, they spent months scouting targets and securing what they thought was a surface-to-air missile system and powerful explosives — all under the watch of an FBI informant.

The four were arrested late Wednesday outside a synagogue in the Bronx, following a long line of homegrown, headline-making terror plots since Sept. 11 that never came close to reality because
the FBI inserted itself in the earliest stages.

The bombs they planted outside two synagogues Wednesday were useless, packed with inert explosives supplied by the FBI instead of the Pakistani terrorist group they had pledged to support, according to a criminal complaint.

Still, officials see the case as a vivid reminder of risks the U.S. faces from homegrown terrorists.

"It's hard to envision a more chilling plot," assistant U.S. attorney Eric Snyder said. "These are extremely violent men."

James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen were calm as they appeared in court Thursday with their hands shackled, to answer charges of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction within the United States and conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles. They did not enter pleas and were held without bail; they face life in prison if convicted.

Besides destroying the two synagogues in the heavily Jewish Riverdale section of the Bronx, they intended to shoot down planes at the Air National Guard base in Newburgh, about 50 miles north of
New York City, prosecutors said.

Relatives said the defendants were down-on-their-luck men who worked at places like Wal-Mart,
a landscaping company and a warehouse when they weren't behind bars. Payen's lawyer said he was "intellectually challenged" and on medication for schizophrenia. Marilyn Reader said he has "a
very low borderline" IQ.

David Williams' relatives were floored by the allegations against a man they knew as a good father
to his 7-year-old daughter and newborn son.

"You don't raise your children to be terrorists," said Aahkiyaah Cummings, his aunt. "I don't know
that guy that was arrested."

Just four years ago, Williams, now 28, told a parole board that prison was a wake-up call after his conviction on drug and weapons charges — drugs he said he sold because was making only $150
a week in his job.

Onta Williams, 32, and Cromitie have also served prison sentences for drug convictions — Cromitie
said in court he had used marijuana as recently as Wednesday. He said he was 55, though law enforcement records give his age as 44.

Payen, 27, did time for attempted assault — in 2002, he and others fired a BB gun out an SUV window, hitting two people in the head. He snatched purses from two women later the same day, said state Division of Parole spokeswoman Heather Groll.

Payen appears to be a Haitian citizen, while the other three are Americans. The Williamses are not related
« Last Edit: May 22, 2009, 10:34:11 am by Bianca » Report Spam   Logged

Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.

Social Buttons

Bianca
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 41646



« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 09:04:24 pm »









New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said he believed the defendants knew each other from their time behind bars. Relatives said Payen, David Williams and Onta (pronounced ON-tay) Williams were introduced to Islam in prison — a phenomenon present in prisons around the country in recent years.

"The Onta I know wouldn't do something like this, but the new Onta, yeah," said Richard Williams, an uncle. "He wasn't raised this way. All this happened when he became a Muslim in prison."

He said his nephew, who loaded tractor-trailer trucks at a warehouse, had been shaken by his mother's death in 2006 and a separation from his wife. She has custody of his three children.

Payen was apparently staying in a rundown house that neighbors say was known as a home for parolees. Penniless and jobless, he had been fighting deportation and seeking custody of his 3-year-old son, said Hamin Rashada, an assistant imam at the Masjid al-Iklahs mosque, where authorities say the informant first met Cromitie in June 2008.

Cromitie was burning with anger about the U.S. war in Afghanistan, where his parents had lived before he was born, according to the criminal complaint. He told the informant he was interested in jihad and "doing something to America" and was crestfallen that "the best target (the World Trade Center) was hit already," the complaint said.

In the same conversation, Cromitie said: "I hate those mother-------, those f------ Jewish b------ .... I would like to get (destroy) a synagogue," according to the complaint.

In one conversation, Cromitie said how he longed to shoot Jews in the head as they walked on the street near a synagogue, the informant said. In another conversation with the informant, Onta Williams said that the U.S. military is killing Muslims "so if we kill them here with IEDs and Stingers, it is equal," according to court papers.

A woman who answered the phone at a Bronx listing for several of Cromitie's relatives said she didn't want to speak about him and hung up. No one answered the door at his Newburgh address, but neighbor Luis Pena said Cromitie was a real nice guy.

The complaint portrays Cromitie as the instigator of the conspiracy, telling the informant last July that he wanted to join Jaish-e-Mohammed, a Pakistani terrorist group with which the informant claimed to be involved. Authorities say Jaish set up training camps in Afghanistan under the Taliban, and several senior operatives were close to Osama bin Laden.

By December, Cromitie was asking the informant to supply explosives and surface-to-air missiles, in one of many discussions secretly recorded in a Newburgh home the FBI had outfitted with video and audio equipment, the complaint said.

The suspects obtained the weapons — not knowing they were disabled — earlier this month, according to the complaint.

But much of their scheme was more pedestrian, according to the complaint. The alleged plot fit a pattern of schemes involving ragtag groups of aspiring terrorists infiltrated and brought down before they could do any harm.

The plots include the "Virginia jihad network," a group of men accused in 2003 that trained with paintball games In Los Angeles, four men including the founder of a radical Islamic prison group were charged in 2005 with conspiring to attack synagogues and other targets. And seven men in Miami were accused of planning to blow up the Sears Tower. Two of those men were later acquitted.

In New York, authorities have broken up plots to bomb gas pipelines near Kennedy Airport and the tunnels underneath the Hudson River.

Some have criticized informants' roles in such cases, saying they egged on and ensnared suspects who weren't dangerous.

___




Associated Press writers

 

Devlin Barrett
in Washington,

Jim Fitzgerald
in White Plains, N.Y.,

George Walsh
in Albany, N.Y., and

Tom Hays,
Tom McElroy and
Colleen Long
in New York


contributed to this report.
Report Spam   Logged

Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.
Bianca
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 41646



« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2009, 10:36:18 am »









Newburgh 4:



                                           "These Guys Picked the Wrong Town"






       
Bobby Ghosh
– Fri May 22, 2009
Time.com

It will be days, possibly weeks, before we know all the details of how the attempted Riverdale, New York, bombing was foiled, but counterterrorism experts say it's already clear where the plotters made their first mistake: they picked targets in New York City. Since the devastating attacks on Sept. 11, the city has built up formidable intelligence resources that are designed to anticipate, detect and eliminate terror threats. "No city is better prepared for this kind of attack than New York," says Fred Burton, a counterterrorism expert at Stratfor, a global intelligence firm. "These guys picked the wrong town to mess with."


Between the NYPD's counterterrorism bureau, the FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) and a U.S. Attorney's office vastly experienced in national security issues, "you have a perfect storm of anti-terror efforts in New York, and [the plotters] ran straight into it," Burton says. The city, along with Los Angeles, "has resources comparable to many countries," says James Carafano, a terrorism analyst at the Heritage Foundation. (See pictures of a jihadist's journey.)


Law enforcement officials have not said how exactly they came to know of the plot, or how the FBI informant came into contact with the plotters. But experts say New York authorities have developed an extensive network of community contacts to keep tabs on suspicious behavior. Burton surmises that authorities had a tip-off that the mosque used by chief plotter James Cromite "was conducive to the radicalization process" and planted an informant among the congregation - which ultimately led them to Cromite.


At that point, experts say, officials in most U.S. cities would have arrested Cromite and his fellow-conspirators. But because of New York's superior resources, authorities were able to take more time - months, as it turns out - using intensive surveillance to map out the full details of the plot, and to see if the plotters had connections to other domestic and international groups. "In the U.S. we tend to roll up the conspirators quickly, but in the U.K. they allow the conspiracies to run a long way, so they can scoop up as much more intelligence," says Bill Rosenau, a national security expert at Rand. "What you saw in New York was very much like a U.K. operation."


Longer surveillance also helps authorities to build a stronger legal case against the plotters, the better to secure convictions and longer sentences. "If you get them after they have planted the bombs, you're likely to send them away for longer jail terms than for just the possession [on bombs]," says Rosenau.


As good as the New York counterterrorism infrastructure is, it may have been helped by luck. It's impossible to know how far Cromite might have gone if he had not reached out to the FBI informant. "Terrorist plots are most vulnerable when the terrorists have to go outside their group for help," says Burton. Lacking the "terrorism tradecraft" to build explosives themselves, the plotters had no choice but to seek help, and "that greatly increased the chances they would be caught," he adds.


Although Cromite and company don't seem to have had any contact with more highly skilled international terror groups, that should not diminish the seriousness of the plot, says Carafino. "Oftentimes, it's the amateurs who are more likely to do harm - people who are more lucky than good," he says. "Timothy McVeigh didn't train in an al-Qaeda camp, after all."


Carafino says those looking for similarities between the Newburgh 4 and other failed plotters won't get very far. Heritage lists Newburgh as the 22nd known plot since Sept. 11, "and so far, the pattern is that there's no pattern," he says. Some plotters went to terror camps, others were "self-radicalized," some hooked up through mosques, others through the Internet.


Rosenau, however, says there are parallels with some other plotters - particularly the group nabbed in Los Angeles in 2005 for planning attacks on Army recruitment centers and synagogues. There are similarities, too, with the 2007 Fort Dix terrorism plot. "These were mostly U.S. citizens who had turned into terrorists," he says. "And some of their targets were similar."


As more details emerge about the plot, experts will be watching carefully for new patterns. But if other would-be plotters are watching, they may conclude that New York is best left alone.
Report Spam   Logged

Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.
Bianca
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 41646



« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2009, 10:43:16 am »









                               Alleged terror plot disrupted by New York officials, FBI
           





YAHOO NEWS
Ron Scherer
– Thu May 21, 2009
New York

– The Federal Bureau of Investigation and New York City officials have arrested four men who allegedly planned terrorist attacks against Jewish and military targets.

The arrests, which took place late Wednesday in the Riverdale section of the Bronx, were made after the men were said to have placed FBI-altered bombs outside a synagogue and Jewish community center. The police, using an 18-wheel truck, blocked their getaway and then apprehended the unarmed suspects.

According to news reports, New York City police commissioner Raymond Kelly, at a news conference, quoted one of the men as saying, "If Jews were killed in this attack ... that would be all right." A federal complaint states that one of the alleged conspirators said he wanted to do "something to America."

Separately, President Obama, in a major speech Thursday morning on terrorism and Guantánamo, said his most important responsibility as president is to keep the American people safe. "That is the first thing that I think about when I wake up in the morning. It is the last thing that I think about when I go to sleep at night," he said at the National Archives in Washington.

"We know that Al Qaeda is actively planning to attack us again. We know that this threat will be with us for a long time and that we must use all elements of our power to defeat it," Mr. Obama said. The FBI apparently was aware of this latest plot for some time, because of the work of a confidential informant. The bureau says it monitored the suspects' actions with wiretaps and video cameras in their homes and provided an inactive missile and inert explosives. At least eight law-enforcement agencies were involved in the case. The government filed a sealed complaint a day before the arrests.

According to the federal complaint, the four men selected their targets in April and conducted surveillance, including taking photos, of military planes at the Air National Guard base at Stewart Airport in Newburgh, N.Y. The government says that all four men live in Newburgh, a Hudson River community in Orange County.

The four who are charged are James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams, and Laguerre Payen. According to news reports, quoting US officials, three of the men are US citizens, and one is of Haitian descent. The Associated Press says three are converts to Islam.

The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, the largest Arab-American civil rights organization, issued a statement Thursday condemning the purported effort. "This alleged act of hate is absolutely unacceptable," said Kareem Shora, ADC's national executive director, in a statement. The ADC also said that hate-motivated violence is not associated with nor representative of any specific race, religion, or ethnicity.

On Thursday morning, New York's mayor, Michael Bloomberg, and police commissioner Kelly greeted worshipers at the synagogue in question.

The plot is alleged to have begun last June, when Mr. Cromitie told an FBI informant that he was upset over the killing of Muslims in Pakistan and the war in Afghanistan, where he said his parents had lived. He told the informant if he were to die a martyr, he would go to "paradise," according to the complaint. The informant told Cromitie he had links to Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed, which is designated a terrorist organization by the US government.

In late April, Cromitie and David Williams are alleged to have purchased a 9-millimeter semiautomatic pistol for use during the planned attacks. Then, in early May, the complaint says, Cromitie, David Williams, and Mr. Payen drove with the informant toward Stamford, Conn., to obtain what they thought would be a surface-to-air guided missile and three improvised explosive devices containing 30 pounds of C-4 plastic explosives. Both had been neutralized by the FBI.

According to the complaint, the informant told the men he had obtained the material from Jaish-e-Mohammed.

"While the weapons provided to the defendants by the cooperating witness were fake, the defendants thought they were absolutely real," said Acting US Attorney Lev Dassin in a statement.

The men are now charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction and conspiracy to acquire and use antiaircraft missiles. The maximum penalty for both charges is life in prison.



• News wires were used in this story.
Report Spam   Logged

Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.
Bianca
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 41646



« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2009, 12:14:37 pm »









                                       New York terror plotters wanted to 'do jihad'





           
CSM
Tom A. Peter
– Thu May 21, 2009

Four men were arrested in New York on Wednesday night after plotting to blow up two synagogues in the Bronx and shoot down military airplanes flying out of the New York Air National Guard base. The suspects were caught in a Federal Bureau of Investigation sting and were reportedly motivated by anger over the war in Afghanistan.

Last year, the four men began communicating with an FBI informant who sold them fake explosives and inactive missiles. They are being charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction in the US, and conspiracy to acquire and use antiaircraft missiles.

US officials say that although the attack was thwarted, it serves as a reminder that the possibility of another terror attack in the US is still very real, reports the Guardian. "While the bombs these terrorists attempted to plant tonight were – unbeknownst to them – fake, this latest attempt to attack our freedoms shows that the homeland security threats against New York City are sadly all too real," said New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

Many are drawing parallels between this recent attempt and several individuals' plans to attack Fort Dix in 2007. CBS News correspondent Bob Orr reports that, as in the 2007 attempt, "the suspects had serious intent, strong grievances against the United States and a desire to be jihadists."

The group's leader, James Cromitie, claims that his parents live in Afghanistan and told the FBI informant that he was angry about the US military killing Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan, reports the Times of London.

He said that if he died a martyr, he would go to paradise and that he was interested in doing "something to America". In July last year, he told the informant that he wanted to join Jaish-e-Mohammed, a Pakistan-based group designated by Washington as a terrorist organisation, to "do jihad", according to the statement.

The Telegraph reports that Mr. Cromitie was probably motivated by deep-rooted anti-Semitism. In the official criminal complaint, the British paper reports that he used several profane words to describe his hatred of Jews

The group, which apparently showed sympathy toward Al Qaeda, said that the Sept. 11 attacks had already destroyed "the best target," the World Trade Center, so they decided to target the country's Jewish population. "They were filled with rage and wanted to take it out on what they considered the source of all problems in America – the Jews," one law-enforcement official told the New York Daily News.

Although the group had relatively advanced plans for their attacks, The New York Times City Room blog reports that they had little, if any, prior history with organized violence. Police describe the men as "petty criminals" who were working without any affiliation to larger terrorist organizations.

Mr. Cromitie, 53, had lived in Brooklyn and had a record of "as many as 27 arrests" for minor crimes "both upstate and in New York City," Mr. Kelly said. He, David Williams and Onta Williams are native-born United States citizens, while Mr. Payen is a native of Haiti. "We believe they knew each other from prison contacts, for the most part," Mr. Kelly said.

Mr. Cromitie was the oldest member of the group and its leader, while the others were "significantly younger," in their late 20s or early 30s, Mr. Kelly said.

The suspects apparently kept a low profile, not eliciting any suspicion from their neighbors, reports the New England Cable News Network. "Lives right over here with us. Regular dude," one of the suspects' neighbors told NECN.
Report Spam   Logged

Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.
Bianca
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 41646



« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 01:13:09 pm »









                                    Terror plot suspects have lengthy criminal records




       

Michael Hill And
Jim Fitzgerald,
Associated Press Writers
May 22, 2009
NEWBURGH, N.Y.

– The four men accused of plotting to bomb New York City synagogues and shoot down military airplanes with missiles are down-and-out ex-convicts living on the margins in a faded industrial city.

One is a petty criminal who spent a day in 2002 snatching purses and shooting at people with a BB gun from an SUV. His lawyer calls him "intellectually challenged."

Three have histories of drug convictions, one of them for selling narcotics in a school zone. The man prosecutors portrayed as the instigator of the scheme said he smoked pot the day he planned to blow up the temples.

They went to Wal-Mart for cameras to photograph their targets and had to call around to various contacts to get guns, prosecutors said.

But if they sometimes seemed amateurish, the men were dangerous people fueled by their hatred for Jews and America, prosecutors said. The plotters managed to get their hands on what they thought were lethal explosives and a surface-to-air missile system, only to find out that they were inert devices supplied by the FBI in a sting operation.

"It's hard to envision a more chilling plot," assistant U.S. attorney Eric Snyder said. "These are extremely violent men."

On Friday morning, dozens of rabbis, priests and imams, as well as elected officials and members of the police department, met at one of the targeted synagogues, the Riverdale Jewish Center in the Bronx.

"We stand with all New Yorkers of conscience against the poisonous hatred that drove four men to attempt murder and destruction," said a statement issued by the group, which included Sen. Charles Schumer, Rep. Charles Rangel and the center's Rabbi Jonathan Rosenblatt.

Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. told community members at the meeting: "Let this moment not be defined by four idiots, by four cowardly thugs and their plan — let it be defined by the many voices of different religions, the song that we should sing as one united choir."

With an informant's help, the FBI monitored the plot every step of the way, including with video and audio surveillance of a home in Newburgh where the conspirators gathered, according to a criminal complaint.

The arrests follow a long line of homegrown, headline-making terror plots since Sept. 11 that never came close to reality because the FBI inserted itself in early stages. Authorities have broken up plots with targets including the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Herald Square subway station in Manhattan, underground gas pipes at John F. Kennedy International Airport, the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey and tunnels underneath the Hudson River.

James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen were calm as they appeared in court Thursday, their hands shackled, to answer charges of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction within the U.S. and conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles. They did not enter pleas and were held without bail; they face life in prison if convicted.

Besides destroying the two synagogues in the heavily Jewish Riverdale section of the Bronx, they intended to shoot down planes at the Air National Guard base in Newburgh, about 50 miles north of New York City, prosecutors said.

Relatives said the defendants were struggling men who worked at places such as Wal-Mart, a landscaping company and a warehouse when they weren't behind bars. Payen's lawyer said he was on medication for schizophrenia and has "a very low borderline" IQ.

David Williams' relatives were floored by the allegations against a man they knew as a good father to his 7-year-old daughter and newborn son.

"You don't raise your children to be terrorists," said Aahkiyaah Cummings, his aunt. "I don't know that guy that was arrested."

Just four years ago, Williams, now 28, told a parole board that prison was a wake-up call after his conviction on drug and weapons charges — drugs he said he sold because he was making only $150 a week in his job.

Onta Williams, 32, and Cromitie have also served prison sentences for drug convictions — Cromitie said in court he had used marijuana as recently as Wednesday. He said he was 55, though law enforcement records give his age as 44.

Payen, 27, did time for attempted assault — in 2002, he and others fired a BB gun out an SUV window, hitting two people in the head. He snatched purses from two women later the same day, said state Division of Parole spokeswoman Heather Groll.

Payen appears to be a Haitian citizen, while the other three are Americans. The Williamses are not related.

New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said he believed the defendants knew each other from their time behind bars. Relatives said Payen, David Williams and Onta (AWN'-tay) Williams were introduced to Islam in prison, where conversion to the faith is common.

"The Onta I know wouldn't do something like this, but the new Onta, yeah," said Richard Williams, an uncle. "He wasn't raised this way. All this happened when he became a Muslim in prison."

He said his nephew, who loaded tractor-trailers at a warehouse, had been shaken by his mother's death in 2006 and a separation from his wife. She has custody of his three children.

Payen was apparently staying in a rundown house that neighbors say was known as a home for parolees. Penniless and jobless, he had been fighting deportation and seeking custody of his 3-year-old son, said Hamin Rashada, an assistant imam at the Masjid al-Ikhlas mosque, where authorities say the informant first met Cromitie in June 2008.

Cromitie was burning with anger about the U.S. war in Afghanistan, where his parents had lived before he was born, according to the criminal complaint. He told the informant he was interested in jihad and "doing something to America" and was crestfallen that "the best target (the World Trade Center) was hit already," the complaint said.

In the same conversation, Cromitie said: "I hate those mother-------, those f------ Jewish b------ .... I would like to get (destroy) a synagogue," according to the complaint.

In one conversation, Cromitie said he longed to shoot Jews in the head as they walked on the street near a synagogue, the informant told authorities. In another conversation with the informant, Onta Williams said the U.S. military was killing Muslims, "so if we kill them here with IEDs and Stingers, it is equal," according to court papers.

A woman who answered the phone at a Bronx listing for several of Cromitie's relatives said she didn't want to speak about him and hung up. No one answered the door at his Newburgh address, but neighbor Luis Pena said Cromitie was "a real nice guy."

Cromitie told the informant last July that he wanted to join Jaish-e-Mohammed, a Pakistani terrorist group with which the informant claimed to be involved, the complaint said. Authorities say Jaish set up training camps in Afghanistan under the Taliban, and several senior operatives were close to Osama bin Laden.

By December, Cromitie was asking the informant to supply explosives and surface-to-air missiles. The suspects obtained the weapons — not knowing they were disabled — earlier this month, according to the complaint.

___



Associated Press writers


Devlin Barrett
in Washington,

Jim Fitzgerald
in White Plains, N.Y.,

George Walsh
in Albany, N.Y., and

Tom Hays and
Colleen Long
in New York

contributed to this report.
Report Spam   Logged

Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.
Volitzer
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 11110



« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2009, 03:34:20 pm »

Exactly As We Predicted; Deadly NY Terror Cell Are Semi-Retarded Potheads

As in ever other major case, terror group hyped by media turn out to be low IQ bums radicalized by federal provocateurs

Exactly As We Predicted; Deadly NY Terror Cell Are Semi Retarded Potheads 220509top

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, May 22, 2009

Exactly as we predicted in our headline story yesterday, two of the ringleaders in the “deadly” New York terror plot salaciously hyped by the media and government officials have turned out to be semi-retarded potheads.

“The men will likely turn out to be semi-retarded dropouts,” we stated in our article yesterday, basing our forecast on the fact that in every other major terror sting in the west given so much prominence by officials and the corporate media, the poor suckers rounded up by the feds always turn out to be low IQ petty criminals down on their luck, provocateured and armed by federal agents.

We already knew that the men were provided with an inert rocket launcher and fake C4 explosives by an FBI informant, and now as more details emerge, our original summation of the case is proving accurate.

According to an Associated Press report, the four men charged with planning to blow up synagogues and military planes, “Were amateurs every step of the way. They had trouble finding guns and bought cameras at Wal-Mart to photograph their targets. One was a convicted purse snatcher, another smoked marijuana the day the plot was to be carried out.”

The report continues,”Relatives said the defendants were down-on-their-luck men who worked at places like Wal-Mart, a landscaping company and a warehouse when they weren’t behind bars. Payen’s lawyer said he was “intellectually challenged” and on medication for schizophrenia. Marilyn Reader said he has “a very low borderline” IQ.”

Exactly As We Predicted; Deadly NY Terror Cell Are Semi Retarded Potheads obama 340x169

Of course, it was only after an FBI informant radicalized these bums and provided them with weapons that they became any kind of threat, providing the feds the opportunity to swoop in, declare a victory in the war on terror and use the case as a poster child for Americans to accept police state measures and believe the hype surrounding “domestic terrorists” in the wake of controversy surrounding the MIAC report.

As the AP article concedes, “Some have criticized informants’ roles in such cases, saying they egged on and ensnared suspects who weren’t dangerous.”

As we reiterated yesterday, this same scam is played out every single time, but the media very rarely makes a big deal out of it when the suspects turn out to be retarded bums who couldn’t even have achieved whatever the provocateur prodded them into advocating without direct help from the feds. The original hyped story about the foiled deadly terror plot remains in the memory while the truth surrounding the case is buried near the back of the newspaper.

Nowhere was this more evident than in the case of the ‘Liberty City 7′, a group out of Miami that supposedly planned to “wage a full ground war against the United States” and bomb the Sears Tower, but who actually turned out to be “a bunch of dipshits living in a warehouse,” as The Daily Show’s Jon Stewart described them.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/exactly-as-we-predicted-deadly-ny-terror-cell-are-semi-retarded-potheads.html
Report Spam   Logged
Bianca
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 41646



« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 03:46:59 pm »






ROTFLMAO, Vol!


How true, how true.....
Report Spam   Logged

Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.
Bianca
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 41646



« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2009, 07:13:52 pm »









                                                 Yet Another Bogus 'Terror' Plot


           


Robert Dreyfuss 
May 22, 2009
The Nation

-- By the now, it's maddeningly familiar. A scary terrorist plot is announced. Then it's revealed that the suspects are a hapless bunch of ne'er-do-wells or run-of-the-mill thugs without the slightest connection to any terrorists at all, never mind to Al Qaeda. Finally, the last piece of the puzzle: the entire plot is revealed to have been cooked up by a scummy government agent-provocateur.

I've seen this movie before.

In this case, the alleged perps -- Onta Williams, James Cromitie, David Williams, and Laguerre Payen -- were losers, ex-cons, drug addicts. Al Qaeda they're not. Without the assistance of the agent who entrapped them, they would never have dreamed of committing political violence, nor would they have had the slightest idea about where to acquire plastic explosives or a Stinger missile. That didn't stop prosecutors from acting as if they'd captured Osama bin Laden himself. Noted the Los Angeles Times:

Prosecutors called it the latest in a string of homegrown terrorism plots hatched after Sept. 11.

"It's hard to envision a more chilling plot," Assistant U.S. Atty. Eric Snyder said in court Thursday. He described all four suspects as "eager to bring death to Jews."

Actually, it's hard to imagine a stupider, less competent, and less important plot. The four losers were ensnared by a creepy FBI agent who hung around the mosque in upstate New York until he found what he was looking for. Here's the New York Times account:

Salahuddin Mustafa Muhammad, the imam at the mosque where the authorities say the confidential informant first encountered the men, said none of the men were active in the mosque. ...

Mr. Cromitie was there last June, and he met a stranger.

He had no way of knowing that the stranger's path to the mosque began in 2002, when he was arrested on federal charges of identity theft. He was sentenced to five years' probation, and became a confidential informant for the F.B.I. He began showing up at the mosque in Newburgh around 2007, Mr. Muhammad said.

The stranger's behavior aroused the imam's suspicions. He invited other worshipers to meals, and spoke of violence and jihad, so the imam said he steered clear of him.

"There was just something fishy about him," Mr. Muhammad said. Members "believed he was a government agent."

Mr. Muhammad said members of his congregation told him the man he believed was the informant offered at least one of them a substantial amount of money to join his "team."

So a creepy thug buttonholes people at a mosque, foaming at the mouth about violence and jihad? This is law enforcement? Just imagine if someone did this at a local church, or some synagogue. And the imam says the people "believed he was a government agent."

Preying on these losers, none of whom were apparently actual Muslims, the "confidential informant" orchestrated the acquisition of a disabled Stinger missile to shoot down military planes and cooked up a wild scheme about attacking a Jewish center in the Bronx.
Report Spam   Logged

Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.
Bianca
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 41646



« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2009, 07:15:43 pm »









It gets even more pathetic:

The only one of the four suspects who appears to have aroused any suspicion was Payen, a Haitian native who attended the Newburgh mosque. Assistant imam Hamid Rashada said his dishevelment and odd behavior disturbed some members, said the assistant imam, Hamid Rashada.

When Payen appeared in court, defense attorney Marilyn Reader described him as "intellectually challenged" and on medication for schizophrenia. The Associated Press said that when he was asked if he understood the proceedings, Payen replied: "Sort of."

Despite the pompous statements from Mayor Bloomberg of New York and other politicians, including Representative Peter King, the whole story is bogus. The four losers may have been inclined to violence, and they may have harbored a virulent strain of anti-Semitism. But it seems that the informant whipped up their violent tendencies and their hatred of Jews, cooked up the plot, incited them, arranged their purchase of weapons, and then had them busted. To ensure that it made headlines, the creepy informant claimed to be representing a Pakistani extremist group, Jaish-e Muhammad, a bona fide terrorist organization. He wasn't, of course.

It is disgusting and outrageous that the FBI is sending provocateurs into mosques.

The headlines reinforce the very fear that Dick Cheney is trying to stir up. The story strengthens the narrative that the "homeland" is under attack. It's not. As I've written repeatedly, since 9/11 not a single American has even been punched in the nose by an angry Muslim, as far as I can tell. Plot after plot -- the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge! bombing the New York Subways! taking down the Sears Tower! bombing the Prudential building in Newark! -- proved to be utter nonsense.
Report Spam   Logged

Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Bookmark this site! | Upgrade This Forum
SMF For Free - Create your own Forum | Buy traffic for your forum/website
Powered by SMF | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines