Dear DOUGH FISHER,MARVELLOUS GRAPHICS ! but would you care to comment on my
Blue Lined Subscript?I already told MARIO that Atlantis was never near the Americas.
I am sorry to be a
SPELL- BREAKER but Atlantis near or in America is a HOAX
Perpetrated by Spanish King FERDINANDO-1 for political reasons.
Columbus WAS looking for Atlantis the fabled(= Hebrew/ Hyperborean) Land to get the Jews away from dear Isabella's " Hermandad "
But IF America had not unexcextedly been afoot/ in the way Columbus would have landed on ARABY and later INDIA
Why do you suppose that he gave Arab names to the Carribean Sea shores ?
Besides I appologizes for beiing a
SPOIL-SPORT, but
in PLATO's days; araby was teh
KNOWN WORLD of ATLANTIS called OIKUMENOS
LYBIA was thenstill in Ethiopia the Geo name was transplanted by later immograntsa to NORTH-Africa !
ASIA comes in TWO Sizes: Asia MINOR which is Turkey and Asia MAJOR whicgh is ARABY(= Atlantis.)
This misconceoption of Atlantis as an Oceanic Isle
boils down to a ridicoulously-simple translation fault !
which became a ( Cherished-) but falsh Tradition ! Phoei !Hi Mario,
Thanks for the positive feedback.
- How do you explain the passage in Critias relating to the region of Gades within a South American Atlantis "universe"?
- How do you explain (from a "motionless" point of view) the fact that North America is in fact in front of Gibraltar and not the South American Continent?
I did attempt to meet as many of Plato's, or more accurately, Solon's specifications as was possible, especially those that would appear to be more reliable. For example, specifications pertaining to the geography of Atlantis—specific measurements of the plain, its central placement on the island, and the arrangement of the surrounding mountains—these are aspects of the island that Solon would have had to take at face value and pass along virtually verbatim. Having no previous knowledge of Atlantis he would have had to trust his Egyptian source and therefore these details would have been passed along intact and proven fairly reliable.
The island's position in relation to the Pillars of Hercules and the Mediterranean is a slightly different matter as its placement had to fit within the limits of Solon's preconceived view of the world, and these details may not prove too reliable considering that this was how Solon apparently envisioned the world:
Here’s an example that should help better illustrate this point:- You're renting a small cabin with a very small fenced-in yard in the back and a reliable neighbor calls to inform you that there is an elephant in your backyard. He also tells you that it's 12-feet tall, weighs about 10 tons and has only one tusk.
You call animal control to report the intruder and trusting your neighbor you report it as 12-feet tall, 10-tons and missing one tusk. This portion is relayed accurately as you have to rely solely on your neighbor's description since you are obviously too horrified to look outside.
Animal control then asks its location and knowing the size of your very small yard you hysterically reply that he is just outside your back door. The only problem is, you're renting the cabin and do not realize that the property actually extends well beyond the fenced-in area. Your preconception of the backyard causes you to erroneously relate the elephant’s location.
Likewise, if the above image represented your view of the world—a centralized island comprised of Europe, Asia and Africa completely surrounded by Oceanus which in turn is surrounded by a ring of mountains—and someone informed you that there was an island the size of Asia and Africa combined located west of the Mediterranean, this limited world view would likely leave you locating Atlantis, or a good portion of it, directly in front of the Pillars of Hercules much as Solon apparently did.
- On the contrary, in my opinion, the huge distance between South America and the Mediterrenean is perhaps the most obvious element against your theory, how could such long distance be feasible from a Mediterrenean or anywhere else location? (it took me a week to travel from Lisbon to Cape Verde nonstop on a cargo ship)
"For because of the greatness of their empire many things were brought to them from foreign countries."
Consider the great distances sailed for the spice trade. Those trips were a bit longer than a week and a voyage from the Mediterranean to South America is a relatively short distance to travel for riches when compared to traveling from the Mediterranean to the Moluccas Islands in the Pacific.
- How do you explain the non existence of elephants in South America?
I can't even explain how a single-tusked 12-foot 10-ton elephant suddenly appears in someone's backyard. But seriously, do we have to accept all portions of the account as fact, or is it possible to consider that some portions may have been slightly embellished:
Zeus, the god of gods, who rules according to law, and is able to see into such things, perceiving that an honourable race was in a woeful plight, and wanting to inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improve, collected all the gods into their most holy habitation, which, being placed in the centre of the world, beholds all created things. And when he had called them together, he spake as follows.....(Critias)
Best regards,
Doug
