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Krista Davenport
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« Reply #255 on: June 11, 2009, 12:43:42 am »

I think you're wasting your time with these people Krista.  They'll blame President Obama for everything everyone else does that he doesn't even have any idea about.  Hate is mean.  Hate is cruel.  It starts out at sarcasm, then antagonism, then physical violence.  Can't waste the time and energy on it myself.

Yeah, but a lot of people read these threads and they should be told what is the truth and what are lies.  Although, I think people can see by now where certain people are coming from! 
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« Reply #256 on: June 11, 2009, 02:47:06 am »

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Krista, why don't you STOP being such a naive tween and watch the Obama Deception.


The Obama Deception

Name me ONE thing that you differ with Alex Jones on, Volitzer, or shut up about it.  Fact is, he does all the thinking for you and you just repeat it.  You are his ventriloquist dummy!

Alex thinks it is all a false left-right paradigm.    liberal----------------------------conservative


The truth of the matter is that the political spectrum is 2-Dimensional.


Obama---------------------------------authoritarian-------------------------------------------------
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liberal-----------------------------------moderate---------------------------------------conservative
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--------------------------------------------|--Constitution Party------------------------------------
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« Reply #257 on: June 11, 2009, 03:07:27 am »

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McCain and Palin were political corpses cuz the Bilderbergers wanted Obama and Biden in to do the NWO's agenda.

So how did the Bilderbergers get what was it - 80% of the people to vote for Obama?  Didja all get a cheque in the mail?

The Bilderbergers knew the public was fed up with Bush and Republicans so they just conned an ignorant public into voting for their man by hyping up their other party out of power... the Democrats.  When Obama is washed up they will hype up their Republican arm again by making them seem the more sensible alternative.  All the while censoring the Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, the Green Party.  They put in a white-Arab-balck man but yet discriminate against other political parties in the media cuz they know how stupid and politically naive the public is.

Unlike Alex Jones and Jason Bermas other talk shows are on either the Republican or Democrat payroll.  Even Michael Savage is starting to realize all the phonies in the CONservatives in right-wing radio.
Both Republicans and Democrats are BILDERBERG owned and controlled !!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #258 on: June 11, 2009, 09:49:34 am »

Volitzer - perhaps you should have been a comedian.  Are you saying the Bilderburgers HELPED Sarah Palin look stupid?  I didn't think she needed any help in that direction at all.  She was a national and international embarrassment and she has to live that down now.  Do you think she got big bucks or something to make herself look a total fool in front of the world?  And John McCain I can believe would take a pay off.  It's never been about anything but John McCain right from the start. 
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« Reply #259 on: June 11, 2009, 01:21:10 pm »

Volitzer - perhaps you should have been a comedian.  Are you saying the Bilderburgers HELPED Sarah Palin look stupid?  I didn't think she needed any help in that direction at all.  She was a national and international embarrassment and she has to live that down now.  Do you think she got big bucks or something to make herself look a total fool in front of the world?  And John McCain I can believe would take a pay off.  It's never been about anything but John McCain right from the start. 

The Bilderbergers knew the Republicans weren't going to get it in 2008 cuz of Bush.  So they chose McCain and Palin cuz of their stupidity.  If the Republicans really wanted to win they would have chosen Ron Paul, but since they took their orders from the Bilderbergers they chose McCain and threw the election.

Now that Obama is screwing up royally the Republican-wing of the Bilderberg Party is all about capitalism and conservatism and pro-America now hoping to lull in a gullible public once again.

It's like the average American voter is being used by both parties like a woman seeing 2 men and being treated like crap by both but yet when she gets fed up with one she goes to the other abuser until she gets fed up with him.  Back and forth, back and forth on and on and on.......     Cry
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« Reply #260 on: June 11, 2009, 02:06:23 pm »

7. In order that the hand of the blind mob may not free itself from our guiding hand, we must every now and then enter into close communion with it, if not actually in person, at any rate through some of the most trusty of our brethren. When we are acknowledged as the only authority we shall discuss with the people personally on the market, places, and we shall instruct them on questings of the political in such wise as may turn them in the direction that suits us.


11. The second secret requisite for the success of our government is comprised in the following: To multiply to such an extent national failings, habits, passions, conditions of civil life, that it will be impossible for anyone to know where he is in the resulting chaos, so that the people in consequence will fail to understand one another. This measure will also serve us in another way, namely, to sow discord in all parties, to dislocate all collective forces which are still unwilling to submit to us, and to discourage any kind of personal initiative which might in any degree hinder our affair. THERE IS NOTHING MORE DANGEROUS THAN PERSONAL INITIATIVE: if it has genius behind it, such initiative can do more than can be done by millions of people among whom we have sown discord. We must so direct the education of the GOYIM communities that whenever they come upon a matter requiring initiative they may drop their hands in despairing impotence. The strain which results from freedom of actions saps the forces when it meets with the freedom of another. From this collision arise grave moral shocks, disenchantments, failures. BY ALL THESE MEANS WE SHALL SO WEAR DOWN THE "GOYIM" THAT THEY WILL BE COMPELLED TO OFFER US INTERNATIONAL POWER OF A NATURE THAT BY ITS POSITION WILL ENABLE US WITHOUT ANY VIOLENCE GRADUALLY TO ABSORB ALL THE STATE FORCES OF THE WORLD AND TO FORM A SUPER-GOVERNMENT. In place of the rulers of to-day we shall set up a bogey which will be called the Super-Government Administration. Its hands will reach out in all directions like nippers and its organization will be of such colossal dimensions that it cannot fail to subdue all the nations of the world. (League of Nations and subsequent United Nations Organization - Ed.).

                                                                             WE NAME PRESIDENTS

11. In the near future we shall establish the responsibility of presidents.

12. By that time we shall be in a position to disregard forms in carrying through matters for which our impersonal puppet will be responsible. What do we care if the ranks of those striving for power should be thinned, if there should arise a deadlock from the impossibility of finding presidents, a deadlock which will finally disorganize the country? ...

13. In order that our scheme may produce this result we shall arrange elections in favor of such presidents as have in their past some dark, undiscovered stain, some "Panama" or other - then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of fear of revelations and from the natural desire of everyone who has attained power, namely, the retention of the privileges, advantages and honor connected with the office of president. The chamber of deputies will provide cover for, will protect, will elect presidents, but we shall take from it the right to propose new, or make changes in existing laws, for this right will be given by us to the responsible president, a puppet in our hands. Naturally, the authority of the presidents will then become a target for every possible form of attack, but we shall provide him with a means of self-defense in the right of an appeal to the people, for the decision of the people over the heads of their representatives, that is to say, an appeal to that same blind slave of ours - the majority of the mob. Independently of this we shall invest the president with the right of declaring a state of war. We shall justify this last right on the ground that the president as chief of the whole army of the country must have it at his disposal, in case of need for the defense of the new republican constitution, the right to defend which will belong to him as the responsible representative of this constitution. (Iran? Grenada? Kuwait? Iraq? Panama? Somalia? Bosnia? Kosovo? Indonesia?)

14. It is easy to understand that in these conditions the key of the shrine will lie in our hands, and no one outside ourselves will any longer direct the force of legislation.

15. Besides this we shall, with the introduction of the new republican constitution, take from the Chamber the right of interpolation on government measures, on the pretext of preserving political secrecy, and, further, we shall by the new constitution reduce the number of representatives to a minimum, thereby proportionately reducing political passions and the passion for politics. If, however, they should, which is hardly to be expected, burst into flame, even in this minimum, we shall nullify them by a stirring appeal and a reference to the majority of the whole people ... Upon the president will depend the appointment of presidents and vice-presidents of the Chamber and the Senate. Instead of constant sessions of Parliaments we shall reduce their sittings to a few months. Moreover, the president, as chief of the executive power, will have the right to summon and dissolve Parliament, and, in the latter case, to prolong the time for the appointment of a new parliamentary assembly. But in order that the consequences of all these acts which in substance are illegal, should not, prematurely for our plans, fall upon the responsibility established by us of the president, WE SHALL INSTIGATE MINISTERS AND OTHER OFFICIALS OF THE HIGHER ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE PRESIDENT TO EVADE HIS DISPOSITIONS BY TAKING MEASURES OF THEIR OWN, for doing which they will be made the scapegoats in his place ... This part we especially recommend to be given to be played by the Senate, the Council of State, or the Council of Ministers, but not to an individual official.

16. The president will, at our discretion, interpret the sense of such of the existing laws as admit of various interpretation; he will further annul them when we indicate to him the necessity to do so, besides this, he will have the right to propose temporary laws, and even new departures in the government constitutional working, the pretext both for the one and the other being the requirements for the supreme welfare of the State. (Presidential Decrees such as F.D.R. employed to debase the US dollar and steal the gold and to place the U.S. under a permanent State of Emergency and War against its own citizens?)
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion4.htm#Protocol  No. 10

10. Liberalism produced Constitutional States, which took the place of what was the only safeguard of the GOYIM, namely, Despotism; and A CONSTITUTION, AS YOU WELL KNOW, IS NOTHING ELSE BUT A SCHOOL OF DISCORDS, misunderstandings, quarrels, disagreements, fruitless party agitations, party whims - in a word, a school of everything that serves to destroy the personality of State activity. THE TRIBUNE OF THE "TALKERIES" HAS, NO LESS EFFECTIVELY THAN THE PRESS, CONDEMNED THE RULERS TO INACTIVITY AND IMPOTENCE, and thereby rendered them useless and superfluous, for which reason indeed they have been in many countries deposed. THEN IT WAS THAT THE ERA OF REPUBLICS BECOME POSSIBLE OF REALIZATION; AND THEN IT WAS THAT WE REPLACED THE RULER BY A CARICATURE OF A GOVERNMENT - BY A PRESIDENT, TAKEN FROM THE MOB, FROM THE MIDST OF OUR PUPPET CREATURES, OR SLAVES. This was the foundation of the mine which we have laid under the GOY people, I should rather say, under the GOY peoples.


So people, where are you in all of this, anybody?
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« Reply #261 on: June 11, 2009, 10:45:59 pm »

Bianca, the next time one of these Obamaites tries to talk you down, just say to them, "What you talking about, Willis?"  

It works for me everytime.
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« Reply #262 on: June 11, 2009, 11:03:27 pm »

What's that supposed to represent?
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« Reply #263 on: June 12, 2009, 12:30:55 am »

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« Reply #264 on: June 12, 2009, 08:00:35 am »










                                      Hovering on High: Obama Surveys the World






By Charles Krauthammer
June 12, 2009
WASHINGTON

-- When President Obama returned from his first European trip, I observed that while over there he had been "acting the philosopher-king who hovers above the fray mediating" between America and the world. Now that Obama has returned from his "Muslim world" pilgrimage, even the left agrees. "Obama's standing above the country, above -- above the world. He's sort of God," Newsweek's Evan Thomas said to a concurring Chris Matthews, reflecting on Obama's lofty perception of himself as the great transcender.

Not that Obama considers himself divine. (He sees himself as merely messianic, or, at worst, apostolic.) But he does position himself as hovering above mere mortals, mere country, to gaze benignly upon the darkling plain beneath him where ignorant armies clash by night, blind to the common humanity that only he can see. Traveling the world, he brings the gospel of understanding and godly forbearance. We have all sinned against each other. We must now look beyond that and walk together to the sunny uplands of comity and understanding. He shall guide you.



Thus:

(A) He told Iran that, on the one hand, America once helped overthrow an Iranian government, while on the other hand "Iran has played a role in acts of hostage-taking and violence against U.S. troops and civilians." (Played a role?!) We have both sinned; let us bury the past and begin anew.

(B) On religious tolerance, he gently referenced the Christians of Lebanon and Egypt, then lamented that the "divisions between Sunni and Shia have led to tragic violence" (note the use of the passive voice). He then criticized (in the active voice) Western religious intolerance for regulating the wearing of the hijab -- after citing America for making it difficult for Muslims to give to charity.

(C) Obama offered Muslims a careful admonition about women's rights, noting how denying women education impoverishes a country -- balanced, of course, with "meanwhile, the struggle for women's equality continues in many aspects of American life."



Well, yes. On the one hand, there certainly is some American university where the women's softball team has received insufficient Title IX funds -- while, on the other hand, Saudi women showing ankle are beaten in the street, Afghan school girls have acid thrown in their faces, and Iranian women are publicly stoned to death for adultery. (Gays, as well -- but then again we have Prop 8.) We all have our shortcomings, our national foibles. Who's to judge?

That's the problem with Obama's transcultural evenhandedness. It gives the veneer of professorial sophistication to the most simple-minded observation: Of course there are rights and wrongs in all human affairs. Our species is a fallen one. But that doesn't mean that these rights and wrongs are of equal weight.

A CIA rent-a-mob in a coup 56 years ago does not balance the hostage-takings, throat-slittings, terror bombings and wanton slaughters perpetrated for 30 years by a thug regime in Teheran (and its surrogates) that our own State Department calls the world's "most active state sponsor of terrorism."

True, France prohibits the wearing of the hijab in certain public places, in part to allow the force of law to protect Muslim women who might be coerced into wearing it by neighborhood fundamentalist gangs. But it borders on the obscene to compare this mild preference for secularization (seen in Muslim Turkey as well) to the violence that has been visited upon Copts, Maronites, Baha'i, Druze and other minorities in Muslim lands, and to the unspeakable cruelties perpetrated by Shiites and Sunnis upon each other.

Even on freedom of religion, Obama could not resist the compulsion to find fault with his own country: "For instance, in the United States, rules on charitable giving have made it harder for Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation" -- disgracefully giving the impression to a foreign audience not versed in our laws that there is active discrimination against Muslims, when the only restriction, applied to all donors regardless of religion, is on funding charities that serve as fronts for terror.

Obama undoubtedly thinks he is demonstrating historical magnanimity with all these moral equivalencies and self-flagellating apologetics. On the contrary. He's showing cheap condescension, an unseemly hunger for applause and a willingness to distort history for political effect.

Distorting history is not truth-telling, but the telling of soft lies. Creating false equivalencies is not moral leadership, but moral abdication. And hovering above it all, above country and history, is a sign not of transcendence but of a disturbing ambivalence toward one's own country.

 

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HUH?


« Reply #265 on: June 12, 2009, 10:04:50 am »

What you talkin about Willis....
LOL



Ahhh memories. I remember that show.
"Different Strokes"
Thank you Myrtle, that was awesome.
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« Reply #266 on: June 12, 2009, 10:09:18 am »

Obviously written by an Obama hater.

He has to walk a very fine line.  He cannot come out and tell the Arab world the States is perfect and they should all act like Americans.  That would create WW3.  He's trying to show the he realizes the States isn't perfect, that they've done some crappy stuff in the past too, rather than get up on stage and go rah rah rah America.  Foreign countries are tired of the American attitude that they're better than everyone else just because they're American.  He also knows that half the world is looking to him for leadership to set an example for so many things.  He's not "hovering" above anyone.  He's knows that the Arabs are educated, he knows they want to be respected, and he can't just go marching in there and tell them they have to change their culture.  

I'd like to see what kind of speech Mr. Cabbagehammer would have made had it been up to him.  It's one thing to criticize all the time, but as the saying goes "don't knock the other guy till you've walked a mile in his shoes".
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« Reply #267 on: June 12, 2009, 10:36:40 am »

Obviously written by an Obama hater.

  He also knows that half the world is looking to him for leadership to set an example for so many things.
 
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« Reply #268 on: June 12, 2009, 10:47:53 am »









                                                    CRITICISM = HATE


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« Reply #269 on: June 12, 2009, 11:08:32 am »

Krauthammer is a neocon who helped promote the Iraq War, so, if you think that was a good idea, then, sure he is a credible spokesman.
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