WOW, JUST WOW...........

[Bianca]

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[Horus]

All of that imagery that deifies Obama is just plain scary.  He does not deserve to be put in a religious context at all -this is extremist and out of control! People are NUTS!

[Bianca]

Horus,


If you want to see someting that is beyond the pale,  look at this site:


                                           http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/


Yes, maybe I will now start to believe in mind control tactics.

I am really stupified, horrified and just plain old numb.

[Wind]

This is all very interesting, and I’m not talking about the pictures on page one I’m commenting on your conversations.  I’m both speechless and disappointed, swine flu, Obama, New World Order. The puppeteers are certainly doing their job well, all that I’ve been reading and hearing lately proves that this is the case, and the conversations here at A.O are no exception to this.

I had a lot more to say, but for some reason it doesn’t seem all that important anymore.

The news headline this morning read that the swine flu had taken a 23 month old baby girl.   Was she a bitter clinger?

The world is going to hell around us and we’re here arguing about Religion, Politics, age and maturity, and a secret ancient order that is supposedly behind it all.

History really is going to repeat itself!   But maybe we deserve it!

Wind

[Bianca]

Wind,


The 23-month-old girl was from Mexico, brought to the States for treatment:


http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,17798.0.html



So, I guess she was not a 'bitter clinger'.....

[Horus]

The world is going to hell around us and we’re here arguing about Religion, Politics, age and maturity, and a secret ancient order that is supposedly behind it all.

History really is going to repeat itself!   But maybe we deserve it!

The news sure makes it look that way but my individual world is pretty good. How are the other 6.5 billion individual worlds? The news can never tell us that and wouldn't even if it could because that's not part of the agenda. 

We "deserve" to be punished? By angry cosmic parents?  It just is what it is and its part of a higher dimensional plan.  Of course some people only believe in the material world detected by five senses and interpreted/misinterpreted in the brain and for them there are no higher dimensional intelligences or plans!

[Perseus]

All of that imagery that deifies Obama is just plain scary.  He does not deserve to be put in a religious context at all -this is extremist and out of control! People are NUTS!

I don't find it scary at all, I look at it as simply "pop culture."  Think of it, anytime a person is elected President of the United States, they are subject to all sorts of interpretations from all kinds of people. There is Obama the President and Obama the icon. People are taking all this way too seriously.

[Horus]

There is Obama the President and Obama the icon. People are taking all this way too seriously.

Hitler started out as a "President" too.  No, I don't think Obama is Hitler, but this serves as a prime historical example of how a democratic nation -who idolized its leader in much the same fashion here- was systematically converted into a totalitarian dictatorship and the populace was deceived and betrayed.  If you look at '30s Nazi propaganda you'll see the same colorful "pop art".  A repeat of that history can't be excluded, and the framework for suspension of civil liberties has already been erected.

[Perseus]

Hitler seized power once Hindenburg died, it isn't the same thing. A better recent analogy to a leader operating in a near totalitarian fashion would be Mr. Bush, who actually did operate in that manner as well as even wished aloud once that he could actually be a dictator because "it would make things easier."

And, again, there is nothing wrong with making Obama an "icon." The American people did the same with JFK, too. If he ever declares martial law and tries to seize more power than he has, than you'd have reason to worry.

[Horus]

Hitler seized power once Hindenburg died, it isn't the same thing.

No he didn't and yes it is.  Hitler was given power before a rather weak-willed Hindenburg died.  Sir Lawrence Olivier explains 3:30 into World at War: A New Germany 1933-1939:



The transformation of his political power and of the country was not a coup or an overnight process but was systematic -and he entered at just the right time -when the economy was in shambles.  

Obama is sitting in the same chair that Bush did and within the same system.  If he resists this system, he will be removed just as the Kennedys were. 

[Bianca]

Thank you, Horus.


Very much the same thing happened with Mussolini in Italy.

[Horus]

Thank you, Horus.

Very much the same thing happened with Mussolini in Italy.

Hi B, youre welcome and... I know, unfortunately.  Because of past-life karmic issues, I've been forced to study World War II (and the Axis Nations in-depth) since about 1980. 

But Perseus is right about getting too worked up, and personally I'm not terribly worried or losing sleep over this.  The very real possibility of history repeating itself here, and of the possible implications of signs or portents like this cant be discounted and shouldn't be completely ignored or written off, but neither can the possibility that these Obama worshipers are just bizarre fringe lunatics like numerous other groups in America who just tend to take things to the ridiculous nth degree.  The door shouldn't be closed on either side until we know more.

[Bianca]

QUOTE:


"Because of past-life karmaic issues, I've been forced to study World War II (and the Axis Nations in-depth) since about 1980."



Well, Horus....

I have EVERY reason to FEAR this:


                                                      I LIVED THROUGH IT


It's like deja` vu........

[Perseus]

Quote from: Perseus on Today at 01:40:53 pm
Hitler seized power once Hindenburg died, it isn't the same thing.


No he didn't and yes it is.  Hitler was given power before a rather weak-willed Hindenburg died.  Sir Lawrence Olivier explains 3:30 into World at War: A New Germany 1933-1939:

I should have elaborated on this, but I assumed you knew what I was talking about.  Hitler was made Chancellor after the 1933 election because they thought they could control him.  Once Hindenburg died, he used the Reichstag Fire to declare martial law and took complete power then. This is a little like what Bush did after 9/11 with the Patriot Act. So, what I said originally was correct.

I don't really see Obama followers as "cultists."  If there are any deranged people out there that see him as any kind od messiah, they are in the minority.

I have some difficulty with Bianca's statement connecting Mussolini with Obama as well.  First off, Obama is not a socialist, if he was a socialist, he would have nationalized all the banks and taken over all the businesses, etc.  All he has done is given them taxpayer money to help them stay afloat. Mussolini was a socialist, but he was also a dictator. Socialism and a dictatorship (i.e. fascism) are not the same thing.  Sweden, for instance, is a socialist country but it isn't a fascist one.

So, Bianca, I would say it is a bit of a stretch to say you are reliving history.

[HereForNow]

In dealing with politics, it's simpler to step outside the box at times and look at it from a bird eye veiw sorta speak. Sure, how much money everyone had or doesn't is important to some.
However, is this leader going to bring peace?

Is this leader about helping everyone in this country equally?

Is Obama helping the economy?

And will this debt continue into the future generations?


Unless these problems are solved, it won't even matter who the president is.
America like all other great nations will one day fall and wah-lah. Obama, like Bush was no good to us.
The truth is the truth and Unless Obama makes good on every word he said, even his loyal followers of today will be his nemesis tomarrow. However a plain truth that no one likes to hear but is still true is;
It's our faults the world is like it is and Obama just like the rest of us is a puppet in a much bigger game.

He is convinced he is doing the right thing because this is what the other political party members say is needed for change. On the other hand you have a world full of people who just simply agree with him because they don't know anything else about politics. Sad, but also true.
Very few people nowadays could care less as long as they are stable. And this is why politics still works for them......


It's up to all of you to decide what right and wrong is for yourselves.
Regaurdless of whos right and whos wrong, everyone of us is as much to blame for the worlds problems as our leaders. Until we make the change and go above and beyond our individual calls.

Nothing is going to change and we may as well hand ourselves over to whatever fate awaits us.
It really is that simple ladies and gentalmen. However, this is only my own opinion and means nothing ultimately.
As I stated, it really is up to all of you to decide what it is you want to beleive.