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« Reply #285 on: June 12, 2009, 01:41:40 pm »

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« Reply #286 on: June 12, 2009, 01:43:56 pm »

The New World Orderís 25 Tenets:

1) Men are inclined to evil rather than good.

2) Preach Liberalism.

3) Use ideals of freedom to bring about class wars.

4) Any and all means necessary should be used to reach their goals as they are justified.

5) Believe their rights lie in force.

6) The power of their resources must remain invisible until the very moment that they have gained the strength so that no group or force can undermine it.

7) Advocates a mob psychology to obtain control of the masses

8 ) Promotes the use of alcohol, drugs, moral corruption, and all forms of vice to systematically corrupt the youth of the nation.

9) Seize citizensí private property by any means necessary.

10) The use of slogans such as equity, liberty, and fraternity are used on the masses as psychological warfare.

11) War should be directed so that the nations on both sides are placed further in debt and peace conferences are designed so that neither combatant retain territory rights.

12) Members must use their wealth to have candidates chosen to public office who would be obedient to their demands, and would be used as pawns in the game by the men behind the scenes. The advisors will have been bred, reared, and trained from childhood to rule the affairs of the world.

13) Control the press, and hence most of the information the public receives.

14) Agents and provocateurs will come forward after creating traumatic situations, and appear to be the saviors of the masses, when they are actually interested in just the opposite, the reduction of the population.

15) Create industrial depression and financial panic, unemployment, hunger, shortage of food, use these events to control the masses and mobs. and use them to wipe out those who stand in the way.

16) Infiltrate Freemasonry which is to be used to conceal and further objectives.

17) Expound the value of systematic deception, use high sounding slogans and phrases, advocate lavish sounding promises to the masses even though they canít be kept.

18) The art of street fighting is necessary to bring the population into subjection.

19) Use agents as provocateurs and advisers behind the scenes, and after wars use secret diplomacy talks to gain control.

20) Establish huge monopolies towards world government control.

21) Use high taxes and unfair competition to bring about economic ruin by controlling raw materials, organized agitation among the workers, and subsidizing competitors.

22) Build up armaments with police and soldiers who can protect and further New World Order interests.

23) Members and leaders of the one world government will be appointed by the director of the New World Order.

24) Infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of teaching the youth in the schools theories and principles known to be false.

25) Create and use national and international laws to destroy civilization.
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« Reply #287 on: June 12, 2009, 01:45:03 pm »

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OK Brandi, Krista, et al. I'd like the Obama supporters here to explain what the "Civilian National Defense Force" is for?  Escorting old ladies across the street?

Oh!  Can I play?  Can I?

There is no plan for a "Civilian National Defense Force."  Obama has offered one year in college for one year of PUBLIC service, such as teaching or practicing medicine in third world countries or depressed areas in America, for their country.

Kennedy did the same thing when he first established the Peace Corps.

Now, I know that angry right wingers are all eager to equate this with Hitler's gestapo, but if you had no issues with Kennedy's plan for national service, you shouldn't have any issue with Obama's plan either.

By the way, I found the pictures of Nazis walking in reference to the vague reference to a "Civilian National Defense Force" to be needless fear-mongering on your part, Horus. It's clear you are full of crap, as are most people on the internet who need to drag up old Adolph when they try and make a point.

You certainly can play my smug little friend! FYI, I am definitely not a right-winger so refrain from a painting me up as a political adversary in order to discard the argument with this ad hominem tripe!

Obama has likened this proposed "force" to the current US military (WITH HIS OWN WORDS) -not to the Peace Corps! Laughable, Byron!
"No plan"? Odd that Barack keeps talking about it as I've already quoted from him. Now run along and get your GED while the adults discuss the historical parallels.  

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« Reply #288 on: June 12, 2009, 01:50:06 pm »

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Oh sure it starts out that way but then they get more and more power then next thing you know we have a police state.

Better crack open a History Book there Byron.  
 

Dude, I have cracked a history book.  I know all about Hitler's rise, Mussolini's too, as well as Franco.  We had a police state under Bush, aren't you a little late with this patriotic outrage?  

How many of you raised any objections when Bush suspended habeas corpus?

How about when he first started rendition?

How about when he first started torturing people through the CIA?

Did anyone here say anything when they first saw the pix from Abu Gharib?

How about when he phonied the intelligence to get you into a war with Iraq?

How about when he wiretapped all your phones and started going through your bank accounts and your internet usage?

Even what library books you checked out?

See all those were real fascist policies that Bush actually impressed upon this country and most of your here never said a word.  So, excuse me if most here aren't impressed with your phony fears right now.

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« Reply #289 on: June 12, 2009, 01:57:37 pm »

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Obama has likened this proposed "force" to the current US military (WITH HIS OWN WORDS) -not to the Peace Corps! Laughable, Byron!
"No plan"? Odd that Barack keeps talking about it as I've already quoted from him. Now run along and get your GED while the adults discuss the historical parallels.  


You ARE a right winger, either that or you are a guy who simply gets afraid a lot - for no reason.

I'll buy the second, that you either scare easy or are a propagandist.

Go run along and fetch the quote for us if Obama actually said that, in it's proper context, little fella.  By the way, why do you want me to run along, can't you present any proof to back up your bull **** claims or don't you like being embarrassed?  

Since you think I haven't got my GED, I'll just assume you are an old geezer.   Smiley
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« Reply #290 on: June 12, 2009, 02:28:33 pm »

The New World Orderís 25 Tenets:

1) Men are inclined to evil rather than good.

2) Preach Liberalism.

3) Use ideals of freedom to bring about class wars.

4) Any and all means necessary should be used to reach their goals as they are justified.

5) Believe their rights lie in force.

6) The power of their resources must remain invisible until the very moment that they have gained the strength so that no group or force can undermine it.

7) Advocates a mob psychology to obtain control of the masses

8 ) Promotes the use of alcohol, drugs, moral corruption, and all forms of vice to systematically corrupt the youth of the nation.

9) Seize citizensí private property by any means necessary.

10) The use of slogans such as equity, liberty, and fraternity are used on the masses as psychological warfare.

11) War should be directed so that the nations on both sides are placed further in debt and peace conferences are designed so that neither combatant retain territory rights.

12) Members must use their wealth to have candidates chosen to public office who would be obedient to their demands, and would be used as pawns in the game by the men behind the scenes. The advisors will have been bred, reared, and trained from childhood to rule the affairs of the world.

13) Control the press, and hence most of the information the public receives.

14) Agents and provocateurs will come forward after creating traumatic situations, and appear to be the saviors of the masses, when they are actually interested in just the opposite, the reduction of the population.

15) Create industrial depression and financial panic, unemployment, hunger, shortage of food, use these events to control the masses and mobs. and use them to wipe out those who stand in the way.

16) Infiltrate Freemasonry which is to be used to conceal and further objectives.

17) Expound the value of systematic deception, use high sounding slogans and phrases, advocate lavish sounding promises to the masses even though they canít be kept.

18) The art of street fighting is necessary to bring the population into subjection.

19) Use agents as provocateurs and advisers behind the scenes, and after wars use secret diplomacy talks to gain control.

20) Establish huge monopolies towards world government control.

21) Use high taxes and unfair competition to bring about economic ruin by controlling raw materials, organized agitation among the workers, and subsidizing competitors.

22) Build up armaments with police and soldiers who can protect and further New World Order interests.

23) Members and leaders of the one world government will be appointed by the director of the New World Order.

24) Infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of teaching the youth in the schools theories and principles known to be false.

25) Create and use national and international laws to destroy civilization.


Volitzer - how come you're the only one can quote these 25 points and with such authority too?  How the hell would you know what the New World Order would want to happen, unless you're a part of it, making it happen? 
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« Reply #291 on: June 12, 2009, 02:32:47 pm »

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« Reply #292 on: June 12, 2009, 02:44:50 pm »

We have the younger generation pissed at the older generation and vice versa and I'd like to ask that anger be directed at those who are actually responsible.

Our government is too freaking big and gets bigger every second. It is not sustainable. The federal goverment was not supposed to be and can not continue to be the answer to everyone's problems. Enough is enough.

Republican, democrat or independent are all about themselves and their own power at our expense. I'm tired of it.

I've worked my ass off for 30 years to get to a comfortable point in my life and now I'm supposed to feel guilty because I can afford a nicer house, a nicer car or purchase a better private health care plan than someone just out of school. That's the dirty little secret no one talks about, the evil rich are supposed to be the guys who make all their money exploiting the less fortunate but more than likely the evil rich are people like most of you here who work, save, buy a house and sell it years later for more than you paid for it. Yes, that one year profit puts you in the evil rich category. That is the other secret of the evil rich group is that it is constantly in flux, one year your on the list and the next year you are not.

I am saying all that because although it may sound nice to want everyone to have health care we can't afford it and laying the burden on someone else, on top of being unfair, isn't sustainable. Not only do we never say thank you to those evil rich who pay most of the taxes but we demonize them for being rich because it makes us feel better when we hit them up for more of THEIR money.

I don't want my government telling me what kind of car to drive, how green my house should be or how much money I should make and we have a president now who believes that is the role of government and that scares me.

 Obama didn't start the process and can't be blamed for all that is happening but he may be the one to tip us over the edge of apathy and into action.  
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« Reply #293 on: June 12, 2009, 03:23:10 pm »





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"We have the younger generation pissed at the older generation and vice versa......."



Don't judge the younger generation by what you read here, iwannano.

Not all of them are elitists and intellectuals, they are more like your generation who have to support
a family and make ends meet.  And, like you generation, they want what YOU wanted....

 

Take my word for it.
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« Reply #294 on: June 12, 2009, 03:35:36 pm »

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« Reply #295 on: June 12, 2009, 03:50:01 pm »

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« Reply #296 on: June 12, 2009, 03:57:41 pm »




"Let's agree to speak to the issue without verbally assaulting the person." 


Not his style, Horus......
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« Reply #297 on: June 12, 2009, 04:05:03 pm »

Bianca,

I was generalizing about the people from these particular threads and in a round about way demonstrating class envy. I do believe that the younger generation wants exactly what the older generation has but I also believe the "how" the older generation achieved what they did gets lost or is purposely distorted. America has always been the place to come to reach a standard of living not available to everyone elsewhere. But now achieving that simple goal of a better life is characterized as greed, selfishness.

I particularly was thinking of Byron who sounds young, very bright and not afraid to stand up for what he believes in. I would hope he wants to keep improving his lot in life in all aspects of it, i.e. worldly and spiritualy.He doesn't sound like someone who needs his governments help or directives to lead his life so I become concerned when he backs a president who, I believe, wants to continue what has gone on for years and make him, Byron, more dependent on his government for everything.

I believe the older gereration here has seen the gradual eroding of America and has been around long enough to remember when people took care of themselves. We are desperate to get back to the old days not so much for us, because we are short timers, but for our younger families.

Instead of buying into and playing the class envy game we should be trying to educate/convince. Instead of automatically dismissing some of the arguements from our generation the young guns ought to sit back and listen before calling us geezers. The young need the old and the old need the young. Our anger should be directed at the common enemy.
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« Reply #298 on: June 12, 2009, 04:19:43 pm »






I agree with every word, iwannano:

thankfully out there there are those who have and have had the sense to observe how everyday
life has diminished for their parents, even if they don't have a family to support. 

So, don't lose heart! 

I can't afford to, I have greatgrandchildren and I WANT a better life for them.

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« Reply #299 on: June 12, 2009, 04:51:32 pm »

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It was their job to corral dissidents and undesirables into concentration camps in the '30s so that the general populace of German sheeple could be kept asleep.  And of course, in the '40s they oversaw the extermination camps.  The sad truth is that the people never wake up until they smell the bodies burning after its too late.


Aren't you the guy from Montenegro?  You should know with Slobadan Milosevic and his "ethnic cleansing."

I'll make everyone a deal.  When Obama begins opening death camps, gassing all you whites that didn't support him and begins killing off all the old people (not to mention invades Poland), I'll be the first one to tell you I was wrong.  Smiley

Until then, the over-dramatization, comparisons with Hitler, fascism, and/or socialism totally sound a lot like hyperventilating conspiracy theories on your parts (the sort of stuff you might find on Stormfront).

Gee, here is a thought, maybe the enemy is actually you?  There is an old saying, "don't look too deeply into the void lest the void stay back."
No "dude", I am the guy from Montenegro.
And with my life experience, I can smell the ashes, when it is about to come.Just because of NWO I have 15 years of: war, depresion, inflation and all of South Europe - Balkan horrors.Yes, I know who is the real enemy.So, I am "qualified" to give you advice.Don't talk like that about your ex President Bush.See the action that hi did, plan of action, and see continuity of that plan todey, plan 100 years old.Forget Bush, Obama, Klinton, Kennedy.See behind things, and you will see the future of ashes, if you don't wake up.
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