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The Original Nephilim were 450 Feet Tall

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« on: April 02, 2009, 10:20:58 pm »


[2] ~ The description in the R. H. Charles version of The Book of Enoch states that the giants were 3000 ells tall.

    "...(3) And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed (4) all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against (5) them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and (6) fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood..."

    The Book of Enoch, Chapter 7: 3-6 ~ R. H. Charles version



An ell is an old English measurement equivalent to 45 inches (Random House Webster's Dictionary). If this was indeed the measurement that Charles was referring to then that would make the giants just short of two miles high [!] This seems inconceivable since any living thing of this size would create a major earthquake everytime it took a step no matter how gingerly it tried to move. Nevertheless, R. H. Charles was considered by some as an 'Enochian specialist.' Hence, this is probably a typo that was never corrected or maybe there were varying measurements referring to an ell (an Ethiopian ell?).

However, Reverend Richard Laurence, a professor of Hebrew at Oxford, produced the very first English translation of the Book of Enoch in 1821 which was translated directly from the three Ethiopic texts by a famous explorer named James Bruce who first uncovered them in 1773.

His version states that the giants were three hundred cubits tall:

    11 And the women conceiving brought forth giants, 12 Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them; 13 When they turned themselves against men, in order to devour them; 14 And began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, and to drink their blood.

    The Book of Enoch, Chapter 7: 11-14 ~ Richard Laurence version



A cubit is an ancient Hebrew measurement equivalent of the distance from the elbow to the tip of the fingers which was later standardized to be about 18 inches (or about 45 centimeters. 'McKenzie Dictionary of the Bible' and the 'New Concise Bible Dictionary'). This would make the giants about 450 feet tall. This is corroborated by The Book of Giants in The Dead Sea Scrolls by Wise, Abegg, and Cook, page 246. Putting this into perspective, however, would make the tallest dinosaurs (Ultrasaurus, Sauroposeidon) registering around 60 feet in height with all four legs on the ground appear the size of a chihuahua to the giants of this size. This is more conceivable albeit still mind-boggling to contemplate.

Aside from the above discrepancy, the R. H. Charles version is conceptually identical to the Laurence version. Personally, I prefer the R. H. Charles version since it is not frequently interpolated with explanatory footnotes (as with the Laurence version) which tend to interrupt the flow of understanding that can be derived from just a straight reading of the Book of Enoch. The Laurence version, however, is not without its merits.

[I will take this opportunity here to note that over the years of research I have become very suspicious of 'biblical scholarship' which quite often attempts to reconcile biblical history with a modernist point of view. This kind of biblical understanding amounts to sheer blasphemy since it usually ignores the actual physical act of Divine Creation in six days and subtly assumes modernist trappings such as the big bang theory, theory of evolution, long earth age, and, in general, an exclusively 'tangible' scientific perspective. This, in turn, conditions the masses to regard Biblical history and the miraculous events contained therein as legend instead of fact. The Holy Bible is then explained away as an ancient collection of allegory and metaphorical concepts. Under this spell of the modern world, the idea of a Holy Living Spirit of God disappears altogether. This subtle transformation of the mass mind is covered in much greater detail in Psychic Winds: The Rise of Technosupremacy...] ~

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 01:08:59 pm »

They were not... the Sumerian texts read that the Nefilim were "Descended from the sky."  meaning they came to Earth in spacecraft.  An archeologist not versed in aerodynamics would interpret this as "giants".

So please stop spreading this mis-translation.  A human body cannot support its own weight over eight feet tall.  Even people who are 7 feet have medical problems.

Remember humans are a result of Nefilim/Ape hybrids.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 01:14:37 pm »

And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells:

Then why would they state specifically that they are three thousand ells if it wasn't supposed to be a measurement of some kind?
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 01:16:50 pm »

And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells:

Then why would they state specifically that they are three thousand ells if it wasn't supposed to be a measurement of some kind?

I'm 189 cm tall, what is an ells ?
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2009, 10:28:04 pm »

They were not... the Sumerian texts read that the Nefilim were "Descended from the sky."  meaning they came to Earth in spacecraft.  An archeologist not versed in aerodynamics would interpret this as "giants".

So please stop spreading this mis-translation.  A human body cannot support its own weight over eight feet tall.  Even people who are 7 feet have medical problems.

Remember humans are a result of Nefilim/Ape hybrids.
 

Which of the homos are you reffering too as an ape?
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 01:56:01 am »

And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells:

Then why would they state specifically that they are three thousand ells if it wasn't supposed to be a measurement of some kind?

I'm 189 cm tall, what is an ells ?

An ell is a unit of measurement, 45 inches long, or, in other words, nearly four feet long.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 01:57:24 am »

They were not... the Sumerian texts read that the Nefilim were "Descended from the sky."  meaning they came to Earth in spacecraft.  An archeologist not versed in aerodynamics would interpret this as "giants".

So please stop spreading this mis-translation.  A human body cannot support its own weight over eight feet tall.  Even people who are 7 feet have medical problems.

Remember humans are a result of Nefilim/Ape hybrids.
 

Which of the homos are you reffering too as an ape?
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This is important. A cycle emerges in everything.



Very funny, now can we have some real research done here?

Does anyone realize the implications of these creatures if they had actually existed?
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 06:00:08 am »

Who got pregnant and bore giants?  How is a human woman supposed to bear a giant baby?  It would be the size of a baby elephant when it was born!!  Either that or they had magic steroids.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 08:22:28 am »

 Smiley  Qoais brings up a very valid point here.  Either the babies of these 450 foot tall giants started out very small and grew incredibly fast, or the measurement is off somewhere.
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Going right along with that quip, look what's happened to the meaning of a simple work like "gay" in just 50 years.  It's  totally changed it's meaning.  So then how are we to translate what the meaning of words that are thousands of years old, and then translate them?  Perhaps "ells" is mistranslated.  This seems to me to be the more likely circumstance. 

Tradition has it that the Nephilim were about nine feet tall, and that the "Golliath" that David slew was a decendent of them.  We have basketball players almost that tall now!  Let's not forget that the average man was much shorter in ancient times.  Five feet was tall back then.   Wink
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 09:50:04 am »

Anybody good at math here?  Take a ratio if you will - of today's standard height for a human, and the standard ceiling height for our houses.  Then find the ratio between the two.

Then, to find X (how tall the giants were) take the height of the ceilings in their buildings and use the ratio.  They would definitely be bigger than us, but not no 450 feet tall.

Even if you gave a bit on the side of grandeur.  Say they just liked ceilings to be really tall, why would they need super tall doors to access those buildings?

For example - Temple of Horus

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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 11:41:29 am »

 Smiley  Well I'm not exactly a math wiz, but let's see.  The average height of a man today is about 5 foot 10 inches, (I beleive), and the average ceiling height is about 8 feet.  So rounding things off (to avoid  breaking out a calculation), that's about 5.8 is to 8, as X is to 100.  We cross multiply, and get 580 equals 8X... then 580 devided by 8 equals about 7.25 percent.  So let's just say that's a bout a 75% ratio.   Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2009, 12:40:31 pm »

Well they had to make those temple doors big enough so that the God or Goddess that they were dedicated to could get in. Grin
 
 Another thought is this, with all the time that Iíve spent around architects and contractors I have found that for some strange reason  modern day rich people love to have enormous doors put on their houses, (Well this is the case where Iím from anyways!)   
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2009, 07:33:46 pm »

Okay what if Americanologists 1000 years from now read how Americans were overweight and they find the remains of a garage door ??

Are they to conclude Americans were 5x5s or 6x6s ??    Huh
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2009, 07:56:33 pm »

The humans in the picture look like ants, but the people in the drawings, look like they'd fit the doorway quite well.  Does anyone know the measurements of this monument that our wizard can do the math comparison?

Oh - I like a good sized front door also - double e-vun!!  But not5 or 6 times the height of the average front door!!  unless of course I plan on bringing the jet into the living room and even then, I wouldn't need a door that high.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2009, 11:13:46 pm »

Qoais does raise some pretty good points.  Obviously, the Nephilim (as embryos) would start off very small, then begin to grow as babies. There is also no saying anywhere that the human women survived the births.

I wouldn't be too quick to put the Temple of Horus forward as evidence of their size.  I believe the Bible states that all traces of the giants were wiped from the face of the earth, so the giants of Egyptian times were Giants 2.0 or even 3.0 or 4.0, for all we know.

In other words, we have never found trace of the original giants.
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