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« Reply #75 on: April 11, 2009, 03:15:03 am »

Greg, I have been reading all your research and it has convinced me that the Bimini Road is manmade.

How have Shinn or any of the other critics accounted for the fact that there are three and four layers of blocks stacked atop one another, not to mention that ancient stone anchors have been brought up from the area as well?

You also referenced treasure, what sort of treasure did Cayce speak of?
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« Reply #76 on: April 11, 2009, 08:57:08 am »

AUTOL: In his articles Shinn says that all of the blocks comprising the Bimini Road are lying on the bottom and there are no multiple layers of stone there. (Natural beachrock has only one layer, so if there is more than one layer present it disproves his assertion.) His photos always show the sides and bottom of the blocks essentially covered with sand. The True Disbelievers and Old Agers assert that all of the photos and film ever taken at the formation that show multiple tiers/multiple layers are fakes.

Cayce initially related that there was pirate gold/silver at Bimini. In a later reading he said that a gold vein was located in the channel area between North and South Bimini islands. A skeptical geologist has searched for the gold vein from the mid-1960s to as recent as 2007.
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« Reply #77 on: April 12, 2009, 05:50:57 pm »

Hi Greg, do you know anything about this?

Discovery of a Prehistoric Underwater Structure in Northwest Wisconsin?



(Photo taken underwater at a remote location in northern Wisconsin.)

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Herbert Wagner

herbswoods@yahoo.com

Introduction
Ancient earthworks, artifacts, native trails, and prehistoric copper mines are well known entities in Northwest Wisconsin and in the Upper Peninsula. This webpage describes an intriguing site recently identified in northern Wisconsin. Due to the sensitive nature of this discovery and its uncertain affiliations, the exact location is not revealed in order to protect site integrity from vandalism or looting.

An Underwater Structure?
The discovery was made on July 24, 2007 during an underwater exploration on a remote tributary in the upper Mississippi River basin in northern Wisconsin. Unlikely as it sounds, the site appears to be an ancient underwater structure -- possibly a road or causeway -- constructed of flat, rectangular-shaped blocks of stone that appear to be cut or otherwise worked and then carefully fitted into place. Although likely of natural origin, to the casual eye the "structure" looks amazingly like ancient stone-paved roads or other ruins found in MesoAmerica, Europe, and elsewhere.
http://www.atthecreation.com/ROAD/UNDERWATER.RD.html
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« Reply #78 on: April 12, 2009, 05:52:17 pm »




The blocks look a little like sections of the Bimini Road, don't you think?
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« Reply #79 on: April 13, 2009, 08:03:51 am »

Tiffany:

Interesting, but I haven't seen them before. If they are in fresh water they aren't beachrock...at least not natural beachrock in place. They look less thick, almost like large cobblestones, but until more info is released, all I could do is speculate.
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« Reply #80 on: April 13, 2009, 08:50:47 am »







Greg,

I apologize for doing this so late, but I had to leave suddenly for a few weeks.



As promised:


http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,17129.0.html


http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,17401.msg139964.html#new


http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,17400.msg139963.html#new


http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,17402.msg139965.html#new




Again, congratulations and best wishes,

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« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2009, 09:36:51 pm »

We have now posted our results from the most recent Bimini expeditions. I think many people will find it quite intriguing.

The article is here: http://mysterious-america.net/may2009biminirep.html

My best to all of you,
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« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2009, 10:07:21 pm »







THANK YOU, GREG!


ALL THE BEST TO BOTH OF YOU TOO, AS ALWAYS
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« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2009, 10:08:16 pm »









                       Exploration of the Bimini Underwater Rectangles Yields Stunning Finds






May 2009
Expedition Summary
By Dr. Lora Little
with Dr. Greg Little

Greg and I have just returned from our most recent expedition to the Bimini in the Bahamas where we were filmed by the History Channel for a show about the search for Atlantis (tentatively scheduled to air in August 2009). They had filmed some footage for the Atlantis show during a trip with us back in January of 2009 while also filming with us for an upcoming Bermuda Triangle show. During the January trip we tried unsuccessfully to dive on a promising underwater site near the Gulf Stream at the 90-100 foot level a few miles west of the Bimini Road. We were then unable to complete that dive since the seas were just too rough and the currents too dangerous. We had explained to the History Channel that this site had been originally identified via a November 2006 side scan sonar expedition funded by A.R.E. and led by archaeologist Bill Donato. Greg and I had obtained one good closeup still shot of a portion of the site in June 2007 from a short dive done by our long-time charter boat colleagues Elsie and Krista Brown. That photograph focused on a large rectangular coral formation. What was most significant was that the photo also appeared to reveal stones placed on top of other stones on one of the corners of the rectangular form. Since the ocean shoreline would have been at the 110 foot level at the time of Cayce and Plato’s Atlantean destruction ca. 10,000 B.C. this site could be the most tangible proof of the existence of a pre-ice age civilization in the Bahamas. In an April/May expedition to Bimini with The National Geographic, we filmed underwater planes for a show on the Bermuda Triangle and also tried to visit and film the rectangles site. However, winds in excess of 30 mph also thwarted that attempt. Fortunately, the weather was quite cooperative this time around.

On this trip we were finally able to dive on the site and to obtain some side scan sonar shots as well as several hours of video footage with our color drop camera. In addition the History Channel had hired expert deep diver and videographer David Ulluoa to capture images from both close up and via a “flyer over” dive about 20 feet above the site using high definition camera video equipment. The results of all of these efforts was striking.

First, the new side scan images that Greg and I had obtained from our boat showed new, more detailed images of the rectangles and emphasized their regularity, consistency and their resemblance to manmade objects as opposed to natural ocean formations. There are literally dozens of these square and rectangular fomations located on a flat sandy bottom and running for approximately a mile. All are densely covered with coral but they are unlike anything else in the region. We also shot close up film with our color drop camera that allowed us to create a set of gps points to map a mile long portion of the site. During this time we collected nearly 3 hours of high quality video of the unusual formations. The video has yet to be fully examined but some images from the film accompany this article.
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« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2009, 10:09:03 pm »









When the History Channel crew arrived we were able to complete several dives of the southern end of the site (using our gps points). On the first dive our Bahamian boat captain and expert diver Elsie Brown went down holding our drop camera and swam it in a circle around where our boat was anchored. Due to the depth (90-110 ft) he could only dive for 20 minutes, but we obtained some great footage. Fortunately, the current on this day was neutral from the 70 foot level down to the bottom. Greg and I did the next dive along with David Ulloa and his safety diver. David was using a rebreather device so was the only diver not limited to a 20 minute dive. Because the current was quite swift from about the 10 to 70 foot depth, Greg and I tethered ourselves to the anchor line of our boat and descended to the bottom reahing a maximum depth of 120-feet. Once there we were able to unhook our tethers and explore only two of the rectangular mound sites beneath the boat. Our objective was to seek some manmade evidence such as stones placed on top of stones as in a wall, or tool marks, or right angles, etc. The rectangular formations resemble mounds and were covered in both live and hardened coral. We brushed off the sand and debris where we could being careful not to disturb the live coral, but could not find any objects that were not coral encrusted. While exploring the first mound I happened to look over at the second one which was about 50 yards south of us and thought I could clearly see what appeared to be two stone blocks lying one on top of the other. I alerted Greg and we headed over, but to our disappointment by the time we got close to it the image had “disappeared” and the area was simply a “blob” of the mound covered in hardened coral. The differentiation of a seam separating the two blocks that seemed clear from the distance was not visible as we gave the site a close-up inspection. However, we were impressed with the fact that the rectangular mounds were surrounded by flat sandy seabed and that the gradual drop of the ancient shoreline could easily be made out.

Since we were limited to 20 minutes to avoid a long decompression ascent, our time on the site was short. During both Elsie’s dive and our dive, David Olluoa was filming the site (and us) with his high definition video camera. After our debriefing it was decided that David would return the next day and do shots across the entire site using his dive scooter and HD video. Meanwhile we moved over to the Bimini Road to get some additional footage there. In January with the History Channel we had gotten some great shots of wedge stones and prop stones found under the main stones of the road. This time we also found lots of impressive prop stones providing more proof to contradict the statements made by skeptics that the road is merely a single layer of fractured beachrock lying on the seabed. We also found numerous rectangular slabs stacked under the huge blocks that are visible from the surface. Later on we found several stone anchors that were identical to Phoenician anchors and pulled the smallest one on the boat for closer inspection.

The next day the heavy currents were much more treacherous at the 90-100 foot depth so David had some trouble getting video of the entire site. However, he was able to access several rectangles on the northern end of the ancient shoreline at the 100 foot level. His video was amazing and what he was able to show Greg and I after the dive contained several points of interest. First, he was struck by the unique and regular pattern of the rectangles as he began shooting. They were uniformly spaced and all of a similar size and shape. He could immediately see four rectangles about 50 yards apart lined up perfecting along the ledge where the 10,000 B.C. shoreline would have been. He was struck by the fact that, although they were covered with coral, the seabed surrounding them was mostly a flat sandy area with no coral. He is an experienced deep diver and has never seen coral form in regular block formations this way except when it was covering some manmade objects such as shipwrecks or buildings blown into the water by hurricanes. Of course, for this much coral to be covering the mounds they had to have been in place a very, very long time. Could these be buildings from a pre-ice age civilization that had been inundated by some force of nature such as a tsunami or a hurricane or rising sea levels as the ice age glaciers melted? One statement we made on film is this: “What would you expect to see if you found stone structures that had been underwater for 12,000-years?”
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« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2009, 10:11:20 pm »










One segment of David’s film showed an elevated rectangle from a distance ­ about 50 yards— and clearly showed what appeared to be a wall of individual stone blocks about 4 blocks high spanning the length of the coral mound from the sea floor. Strangely when he got right next to the site with his camera the blocks were not visible and the same area appeared to be a lava-like covering of hardened coral. This was the same optical illusion we had experienced on our dive the day before at rectangles on the southern end of the site. However, this rectangular mound had a curious t-shaped extension on one of the short sides. It was covered in hardened coral but seemed to have right angles cut out of it so that the raised area formed a T shape. Also of interest were some clearly defined rectangular depressions in the sandy areas between some of the mounds which may also be the remains of building foundations. In essence, the formations resemble truncated mounds, with clearly defined sides and a flat-top. Several appear to have multiple levels. Most of the formations are 3-6 feet in height with the sizes varying from about 12 x 15-feet to 15 x 24-feet. The sides of the formations are likely stone as we did find some stone slabs in some areas.

Needless to say the History Channel was very pleased with their footage and the forthcoming documentary will probably cause quite a stir and raise the ire of the skeptics. Unfortunately, not a single archaeologist asked by the History Channel to go on the expedition to examine the site would or could go. They may—or may not—include that issue in the show. We are now more convinced then ever that this is clearly an area that needs more exploration. It may well be that the remains of manmade structures are truly on the edge of this 10,000 BC shoreline—which would be a stunning and completely mind-boggling discovery. But more research is needed. Unfortunately sub-bottom profiling cannot penetrate the hardened coral on the rectangular mounds, but if the sea bed next to the mounds are pure sand then it can “see” through them so that we could search for artifacts that might have been preserved in the sand. For a 5-day expedition we felt that we got a lot accomplished. We were even able to take one day before the film crew arrived to travel 65-miles south of Bimini to explore a few of the areial targets we had identified during our April 2008 flyover of the Great Bahamas Bank from Andros to Orange Cay. We found lots of cars, trucks, TV antennas, and other fish condos (cages) on the bottom, but no archaeological evidence. However, we still have more than 100 targets to access so that will be another expedition. Hopefully it will be soon as we hope to return to the rectangles at Bimini in order to map it more completely with both sidescan and video.

A more detailed report will be issued next month after we examine our extensive film and photos. In addition, these new results will be incorporated into the dvd documentary, The Search for Edgar Cayce’s Atlantis, which is now being updated and should be available by June 1.
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« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2009, 10:12:29 pm »








PHOTOS AT SITE:



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« Reply #87 on: May 16, 2009, 12:08:57 am »

Awesome!!
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« Reply #88 on: May 19, 2009, 01:07:56 pm »

I have just split this one off into two separate topics to weed out the drek.  Party on. people!

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« Reply #89 on: May 19, 2009, 01:20:38 pm »








dreck (drk)



n. Slang

Trash,
especially inferior merchandise.

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[German, dirt, trash and Yiddish drek, excrement, both from Middle High German drec, from Old High German; see sker-3 in Indo-European roots.]

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