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« Reply #195 on: May 19, 2009, 10:57:48 pm »

Alright ! I have to ask a question, where did this whole moon hitting the Earth thing come from?   This is new to me.
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« Reply #196 on: May 20, 2009, 06:17:43 am »




Wind:

Pretty well ALL of BH's material comes from the PSYCHIATRIST Dr. Velikovsky.

He was a ZIONIST who was 'hell-bent' on making Israel 'important' - which was at the root of all
his 'theories'.....


Immanuel Velikovsky

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky
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« Reply #197 on: May 20, 2009, 08:38:45 am »

THANKS ' BIANCA"     by promoting Dr Velikovsky's ideas by issuing his biography for all to read( that never heard of the man before !) a meritable deed.
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« Reply #198 on: May 20, 2009, 08:49:20 am »

Dear.........ROBERT, mr. Wind & mr J. Manuschevich,

I am sorry for the length of this article

Note: about Ach -en- Aten, in an old incomplete book I read that Achnaton did not actively subdue the Amun Cult, he just ignored it which maybe amounts to the same .
Strangely enough the Amun- Cult was subdued before ATON, by a former Amun High-Priest: King Thotmoses-3 who, not only chipped away the portraits of his mother Queen Hatsepsut but also of the god Amun standing guard over her and this happened 200 years before the Aton cult..


My posting, Yesterday, was just a half message, yesterday I got " out of Session  " while typing the other ( lost-)half, so here is the Full edited story for your scrutiny SOURCE Dr V's Book" Earth in Upheaval"( concepted: 1948 )

The present MOON already existed before it reached Earth as a " Captured" Sattelite
it was a companion of Planet Venus after it emerged from Jupiter's Red- Spot.
VENUS as a Planet is a newcomer in our Solar system, who started to emerge with Planet Uranis and " worked itself Down the line to the Solar system's center.

The Egyptians even recorded( with sore Eyes I would expect, that "Planet Venus as 'Isis' caused the Sun to be darkened by a planetary dust-RING around it  metaphorized by an Aphophis-Snake poison-Spell to call all of his 72 holi names( In the translated Hindu- Fairytales from the Tantra Chantra, it is the Cobold/ Goblin RIMPELSTIELSKIN that had a secret name to be guessed for a ransom.) for helping a prospected Bride to weave a goldcloth from straw.

The GREEKS/ AND EGYPTIAN ASTRONOMERS WATCHED the arrival of the Moon IN HISTORICAL TIMES.
As the translated Greek version goes:

The MOON is a captured Sattelite from Planet Venus,

Planet Venus was touring the Solar system as an errant Planet named RHEA ( also "Little Red Ridinghood" in the ( censored)fairytale version of the egyptian Myth of " ISIS wandering with Anubis meeting Seth(= the Moon.)on the isle of the ENEADES

FAIRYTALES of GRIMM were actually forbidden Star-observations

They were common knowledge in India, but the ( MOSLIM-)Indian Mogul Emperor:' Dzjangdi '( or someting I forget )
issued a LAW in 1645 ad, that All libraries with Hindu Knowledge should be burned and the Astronomy-Science forbidden.

In the Hindu Fairytale collection-Book ( Tanttra Chantra, )Planet Venus is described as " wandering through the Forest picking Flowers "which is a metaphore of Planet Venus darkening the Night-sky-Stars(= " flowers".)
In the FRENCH translation of the Hindu sanskrit original
Planet Venus visited the Smal " Houses" of the7 Planets She ate from their "Plates" and drank from their" Cups "
which again, is a metaphore of a Planet-wandering to avoid the Scrutiny of the ( Moslim-)Indian Emperor's Censors.

In the french translation " Planet VENUS isd re-named " Snow-White and the Seven" Dwarfs "(= Demiurges.)
because visibly Venus must have glowed as a seecond Sun and thus its radiance must have " Dwarfed" the size of the Gaseous Planets !

For the same reason the sattelite-Moon of Venus was named the "GIANT" PALLAS because of it's light-radiation too

HINDU ASTRONOMERS observed the entry of Planet VENUS(= Visnus.) in our Solar System:

Planet Venus toured the inward-side of the Solar System towards the SUN getting accellerated each time when passing the 4 Gaseous Planets and entered the Athmosperes of the 4 Gas Planets leaving ( still visable) Vortexes-in Line- where it entered and Re-emerged, EJECTED by Jupiters' momentum conservation,  Ejection-accelleration is (like mr WIND mentions,)  a Law of Physics thus also in Astro-physics !

When " Snow-White " entered the (or rather each)single 'House' of the 7' Dwarfs' she slept in their ' Beds'(= orbit wake.)and She 'Ate from their Plates"(= she" broomed" the dust off the Planetary rings.)and She' Drank from their Cups'( meaning the super-Hot Planet Venus evaporated parts of the frozen Planets' Gaseous envellopes.)
In the Fairytale story She was allowed to stay in the( Planetary-)' House' on condition that she would broom their house9-s) clean, but that is just a dramatic story repetition. Because when once in Stable orbit Venus did'nt  "Broom" anymore !)

GREEK  MYTHOLOGY was a description of celestial Planetary movements,

After the WAR of the GODS in: 855 bc, when Earth's axis tilted 25 degrees,  the NEW-ly formed Starsigns got the (New)Names from the actual 18-th egyptian dynasty KINGS,   living on Earth around 1.055 / 855 bc.
(I use a different Dating-system, so, I'LL GET INTO dating THAT LATER.)

The wandering Planet Venus entered the jupiter Gas envellope,  according to the GREEK astronomers, as " METIS " and left it as Themis or Athens. around 1055 bc. not Billions of years ago.( as 'ROBERT' and all astrophycisists thinks.)
During this transition of Jupiters athmosphere Metis must have fragmented hitting Jupiter's frozen Metalic Ice Core, she split and got a Sister/ a Moonlett named " PALLAS "

When Venus reached past Earth and Mars, ( on her way into hitting and orbiting the Sun !)
the Moonlett named Pallas detached from Venus and started to orbit Planet Mars.
However NOT for long because their joint orbit velocity must have torn the" Couple" from the former Mars-orbit around Planet Jupiter( which formed the mini Solar-System, of Earth & Mars revolving around Planet Jupiter.)

DESCRiPTION of MOON's approach to Earth,
Again the Greek and Egyptian Astronomers have watched the Moon become  as a  -captured-sattelite of Earth
in the" Pelgaskian World-Creation Myth," The MOON was named EURYNOME and circled in Orbit around Planet Mars.
But it was not in a Circle move but in a triangular (" Keplar"-)move and suddenly Moon hit Mars on the Forehead
as it were " Kicking-out it's front teeth " leaving an oceanic depression on Mars' north-pole. all in 1055 bc.

These Front teeth of MARS became in Legends the Mars MARUTS and they became the Mars-Fragment-Meterorites that impacted on the Still watercovered Rub al Chali Desert leaving shallow impact holes of 100 meters in trans-section. The MOON itself would soon follow.

The Moon now was encircled with a sort of Skirt like the babylonian Goddess Damkina wore when wanting to rescue DUM-UZZI (= egyptian OZ-SIRIS /=Planet Mars.)from her 'Sister's death realm of Eriskigal.

Each time when, the Moon  revolved around the Sun, for the observer she" lost" her Skirt/Tail of Mars' teeth
In HINDU  Myth this stage of the Moon's" devellopement" was named' GANGA'  when she flowed through the" Hair " of SHIVA(= Mars' severed head with the" Third Eye ")in norse Myth this Moon-phase is called" SIF with the golden hair getting revence from Loki.")

The Moon bumped on Mars and the seismic wave travelling through Mars' iron core caused it to eject and become the Planet Mercury.( Hermes or the golden-Horus the younger in egyptian Myth.)According to Astrogeologists MARS is a heap of Stone covered with a thin veneer of Iron Oxide, while Mercury on the other hand is a ball of iron, covered with a thin veneer of Lithosphere.

During the Mars-Moon collision both of them were covered in a cloud of gold-dust.  PLUTARCHUS re-tells a Greek(= egyptian.) Myth that Planet Mars wanmted to mate with Planet Venus but her velocity was to fast to be captured
so Mars asked his old housekeeper ugly old ANNA(= the Moon, which was neither old nor ugly !)to' intercede' for him
and she told Mars that he would meet his beloved 'MINERVA' wrapped in sheets, but the next morning when Mars
opened the bedsheets who but old ANNA" The Housekeeper(= orbiting Sattelite.) was in the bedsheets?!

In another Tale from the TANTRA - CHANTRA it is Venus that went to the house of the Moon and found the WOLF(= Mars.) in the Bedsheets of Grandma which he had "" Eaten ".or rather " Lady-killed".! in yet another version of the Moon-collision with Mars, Mars was attacked by TWO GIANTS who grew larger and Larger( as a dustcloud would!)( Briareus & Porfirius.)they supposedly shut Mars up in a golden vase.( Like Brer PETER did with the "WOLF" in a net, hidden in a paper bag !)

Modern Astrophicisists recon that Planet MARS was once hit on the Head/ north pole wich resulted in an Oceanbasin like deep depression, but at the opposite side of Mars globe, the giant Volcano MONS OLYMPUS emerged together with similar volcanoes called the TARSUS Mountain range.

In my " Blue's) Atlantis Theory, the Asteroids from the asteroid-Belt consisting of granitis and basalt-material
is not from an exploded 10-th Planet but the result from the Mars/ Moon collision of 1055 bc.
The smaller Marsfragments were caught by the retreating Moon and were showered over the Earth.
My guess is that the majority of the Giant impact-Craters in America and Mexico are NOT from millions of years ago
but datable to around 1055 bc.  They had impacted into Jurassic soil, but the present ( eroded @!)topsoil is NOT
the Time period that these Giant impact craters were incomming.

The Egyptian Story went that OSIRIS(= Mars.) was tempted to lay in a golden caskett or sarcophagus and which was nailed tight and thrown into the ( CELESTIAL-)River( Nile)and was recoverred by isis in the realm of CHANDRA king of Hyperborea.(= Atlantis.)( where " Mars/ Osiris was hidden into a Tamarisk tree which she removed but never theless" Osiris/ Mars did not revievand could only " Live " in the realm of the Dead.
Mars was formerly covered with Oceanic waters and thus the GREEKS names Osiris/Mars after the GOD POSEIDON.
After Moon hit Mars and the latter lost all of it's free water in a sudden evaporation Poseidon became arid/ ARES

MARS became arid/Ares in 855 bc, at the same time that The Assyrian GOD-King Salmanasser-3 removed the Hindu-GOD RUDRA(= Mars.)from the indian Pantheon and replaced it with himself as the" New-God SHIVA, with Poseidon's Trident !")

But earlier the Moon fell to earth after first sending a shower of marsfragments into the AQrabian desert which at that time was still covered with water, which was NOT neccesarily Glacier-lakewater !

in 1055 the MOON made her first devastating impact on Antartica and caused the Atlantic Ocean floor to CRACK & SPREAD and the Andes Mountains to Rise probably in ONE day!
Now, paleo-geologists tell that the Andes mountains rose probably in Olichocene times 30.million years ago
The Himalay mountains were formed 200 years later, so because of the less eroded tops their rise was dated in Eocene times 20.million years ago.

But this is quite wrong the Andes rose in 1055 bc and at the foot of it lays the original topsoil of the Pleistocene era but covered by later eroded Olichocene silt, the Himalay mountains likewise rose in late-Quartenary " NEOCENE-era but the former indian/ Thetys-Ocean-basinlayers eroded that fast that the present tops of the Hymalay mistakingly seem to date fromj Eocene Miocene times, that's right,  but this was NOT the time of the ( later!) Mountain(" building")rise ! thus those Geologists that date the rise of the Himalay mountains to millions of years ago are fooling themselves or it is a grave(l-)misunderstanding!

Naturally Atlantis was not from 10.000 bc but was re-founded in 1055 bc it existed not as an oceanic isle but as a Volcano- caldeira in Aden(= Ad-LAND.)and was overtaken by a TSUNAMI of Giant proportions and Subsided but no human lives were lost.  THAT MAINSTREAM ATLANTOLOGISTS THINK of ATLANTIS as an  iSLAND IN mid-OCEAN off the Caribean sea in AMERICA isa a false tradition fallacy
I explanained before that Latin translators mis translated Plato's obsolete dialect greek words and gave it a different meaning.
But the atlantologists that know no Greek nor lsatin trusted the english translations( which were superb, but from a very CORRUPTED" Textus- Receptus" which the atlantologists refuse to believe. Some even think or act subconciously as-if Lain was the origional language and forget all about a ( forgotten or lost-)greek origin.

AFTER THE 'DESTRUCTION' of ATLANTIS the survivors went to repair the damages.
A.KIRCHER wrote in his frontispice that the SEA( by a cataclysm,) had overtaken Atlantis(" Mare capta Atlantidis "or something.)
anyway he did NOT say that Atlantis had sunk beneath the waves which wrong notion is another diehard fallacy !

The GOD King of Egypt named " THOT"(= SEKEN -en- RE, THOT-2.) simply ordered his son AHMOSE to " Re-build the citadel of Atlantis which he did
in the Pelgaskian World-creation Myth this eponymal king was not suprisingly named in Greek: KING  PELASGUS".
and the three greek tribes first to arive in Greece were named after him: Javans(= Ionians Aeolians and Etolians, )later came the other ' Dorian' tribes.( in 855 bc,)

ABOUT:  -regular-Cyclic TSUNAMIES in Aden/ ATLANTIS,

However The MOON returned to hit the Earth a second time after a series of Erratic orbits which lasted 200 years later, in which the Erratic moon,  was named" NIBIRU "
by the Babylonians.  In this 200 year Moon observation history it came out that the Moon in Conjunction with Mars closest approach to Earth,
caused a Major- :" Earth-Quake" Tsunami every 50 years and a Minor one every High-Tide once a year. with Volcanic Rumblings every 25 year.

The Greeks supposedly knew only ONE Deluge/Flood( of :DEUCALION in 1055 bc.) but Plato only said that to st-of the dim knowledge of the greeks against the vast ancient knowledge of the egyptians who knew several Floods,
but from Plato, that was a white lie, because during those 200 years inbetween TWO Moon-earth collisions tghe Greeks named every s0-year's major Tsunamy after the royal House kings of Thebes.)( Deucalion was king Ahmoses.)

Originally since the ELEVENTH egyptian Dynasty the whole of ARABY was occupied by the Egyptians and thus the earlier Assyrian and Babylonian and ELAMITE Kingdoms were actual" Vassal" kingdoms of the Egyptian Eleventh-Dynasty.   Ofcourse these sometimes revolted under Assyrianinstigation but the egyptians were powerfull enough to counter these revolutions.

However the Egyptian kings donated so much of Egyptian-Arabian territory to the Priesthood of AMUN that the Arabian Lands were named The THIRD-hand(= dead-hand/ =priesterly-) Egypt named as Punicians of PTAH or CHETA/= SETH Lands or the Foreign lands of the Seven/ Nine Bows! The only income that the Priests of Amun had was the growth-cult of Frankincense trees, which was used as barter.

But Assyrian King ASSURNASSIRPAL( dd 879-859 bc and his son 'GOD'kingSalmanasser-3( dd 859- 824 bc.)
managed to detach the Amun priesthood IN aRABY from the royal House of Thebes, BY DIPLOMATIC TREATIES OF NON-INTERVENTION WHEN THE ASSYRIANS WERE ATTACKING EGYPTIAN GARRISIONS UNDER THE FALSE GUISE OF ROOTING OUT" REBEL-FRACTIONS"( MEANING' EGYPTIAN Garrisions.!)

In letters to the Assyrian Spy and foreign minister" TUTU " ABDI  HIBA the Vice-roy of Jerusalem tells the King Achnaton, "who has no ears" that the TRAITOR:" ABDI- ASHIRTA( litterally the( egyptian-Vice-)KING of ASSUR
is putting rebels down while professing his loyalty to his egyptian overlord and master, but would not come to Egypt

The Israelian/ Amun-priesthood that now had come under Assyrian sway revolted against their conniving new Ruler at exactly each 50 year period that the MOON-sattelite  regularily caused a Giant Tsunami, so when in 855 bc they revolted and Salmanasser-3 was at the GATES besieging the Capital of Egyptian Araby(= KADESH.the Holi- City of ADEN/= Atlantis)it happened that the entire Assyrian siege army was drowned.

Somehow Salmanasser-3 survived that drowning and amassed a second Siege Army 2 years later in 853 and took " KADESH/ Kar Kar(= City of Cities.)in the Annals of Israeel it says that Salmanasser was beaten by a coalission of Hittites/Hatti and Syrian tribes and an israelian  King Ahab but led by Haddazer of Damascus but it was a Phyrrus victory because in 851 Salmanasser-3 returened with a new army and succeded in capturing KADESH/ Carchemish
easily because now there was no scheduled TSUNAMI to drown the second siege army !  The  syrian Coalition of the " victorious" Egyptian King however was beaten too. but this was held secret from the home front .

THE SUPPILULIAMUS OR BURNABURIAS-of HATTI in: 1355 bc was the same as SALMANASSER in 855 bc
and the City of KAR- KAR or Carchemis on the Orontes was actually ADEN in South Araby
Dr Velikovsky described this discovery in his 1949 Book" Ages in Chaos " which was boycotted by the professional egyptologists

In Hebrew the israelian chieftan opposing Salmanasser-3, was named ACHAB and his son Achazia, The Egyptian king was named AMENHOTEB-3 and his son was Amenhoteb-4, and we know nothing of them, ever leading any army against any Assyrian host.
However in the Bible Pharaoh Amenhoteb-3 was named " King ACHAB "  Litterary:" King of Chatti-Land " and he nearly lost his life in gthe Palestinian/ Syrian coallision war against the Assyrians.( Dogs licking his blood from his war-chariot.)

The King of Israel was actually the Pharaoh of Egypt but his "vice-Roy of Kush "was named the First Prophet of Amun, JESAJA & Jeremiah were such king- Priests of Israel, and they behaved like overt-egyptian-traitors to the Assyrians ! in the Sermons of the Prophets it seems, as- if the Israelians were 'Sinners' and the Assyrian KING was the GOD against who they " sinned " because of their loyalty to the Egyptians( and their gods !)

The First 'Holocaust' was in 605 bc when King RAMESSES-2( also named NECHO-2)married the neo-BABYLONIAN kings daughter NEFERTI but in exchange for a non-attack treaty by which he lost the nominal hegemony to all egyptian territory in Araby which Seti-1 had temporarily recoverred some years before.
The name of that neo-babylonian king was HATTUSILISH-3 but we know him as NEBUKADNESAR

The former egyptian-Palestinians were treated as babylonian-prisioners of war with Rameses-2 lame protests in the background,  When the israelians revolted in 598, the traitor JEREMIAS went with the fugitives to Memphis, but he forgot that he himself was the babylonian traitor who helped formulate Ramesses-2 non-Attack treaty wher it says that Babylonian refugies were to be returned to babylon but also former egyptian citizens now under babylonian rule were to be returned to Babylon when they took refuge to Egypt even if their entire family lived in Egypt.
And so JEREMIAS was" returned" to babylon, where he( vainly!) protested that he was removed to memphis" against his will " ( a likely excuse from a traitor !)

So from 853 bc.on ACHAB/ Amenhoteb-3's son Amenhoteb-4 under the name of Achnaton became the Vice-Pharaoh of Araby but only in name whilst his brother general Horemheb was allowed the Privillage to become titulary Vice-Roy of Assur for the former Egyptian territories in South- Araby.

However the NEXT 50 years later when Achnaton and Horemheb were long dead, in 805 bc the former Egyptian Priests revolted again and Aden was besieged again, and the Assyrian Army was routed by the next giant cataclysm of which they had forgotten all about it since Salmanasser-3 had taboed that knowledge!
The israelian " GOD " that had caused each natural cause defeat of the Assyrian host was the Moon and his AVATAR the White holi- Elephant.

Around 855 bc Salmanasser-3 ordered the Avatar of the Moon the White holi-Arabian Elephant to be murdered by the thousands, because as CHERUBS / Grigori-on the walls of SION, in Aden, they were watchers/ averters of the oncomming Tsunamies.  Even today with the ASIAN Tsunami the Thai tourist-Elephants were the first to get the tourists off the beach to higher grounds but the technocrates did not know that and have replaced the Elephant as Tsunami-watcher with expensive Earthquake warning equipment()" ( Elephant-God-)Poseodon's "SEA-Horses" were now supposed to cause Tsunamies instead of warning for them !)

This above narrative only goes to showe that in a very short period of time the MOON twice pelted Earth in historical times and was recorded as having done so.

In 1055 bc the collision of Moon against Antartica caused the Andes mountains to rise in Pleistocene or late Quarternary time and 200 years later in 855 bc, the Moon collision on the Hawaiian Isles caused the Himalay Mountains to rise accordingly.

that the Andes and Himalay Mountains presently, are not positioned opposite the -expected-holes that the Moon had created on the other end of the Earth is because as a result of the Seismic waves they have moved from the original position in which they were located when the Moon struck on the other side of the Earth , from which they expended/ spread, during the Shockwave !

I forgot his name but it was Andrew Collins If memory serves correctly(not in my Alzheimers' Syndrome Case !)that has made those scrolling /wandering continents scrolling, cartoon-movies that simulated what would happen to Earth's crust if a hypothetical " smaller" Planet would hit Earth ! instand : RHODINIA, Gondwana, Laurasia and Pangea !

DISBELIEVE versus historical OBSERVATIONS:   Cry Shocked Cry
When dr Velikovsky presented the above narrative at an American astrophysical Convention in 1974 the first thing all opponents said was, " that a mere collision with an Astroid or even a small Planet,  would not harm Earth much, nor would it be able to turn over Earth's axis the 25 degrees( it has since 855 bc.)
Also the modern-Astrophysicists refused to believe that the ancient Greeks and Egyptians had watched the Moon captured by Earth or Venus ejecting from jupiter.

Today modern Astrophycisists have determned that Planet MARS must have once maybe a million or 10.000 years ago been hit on the Head by a small Planet,  which caused it to loose all watercontent that according to other theorists may now form the Water-ice rings of Planet Saturn.
It is till amasing the MARS is totally earthlike in it's Siltlayer composition and if all asteroids that are a result of the moon collising with Mars and ejecting it's iron core were addedup, Mars ciould even have been bigger taht Earth when both,  were still revolving in orbit around Planed Jupiter !

ABOUT evidence of Atlantis as an " eye-Opener "
In any case,  mr WIND wondered why he had never heard of such a thing as Moon collisions, so I will explain
why he has frequently read about Moon-Earth collosions, ( without even knowing it) and I hope that he is intelligent enough to understand this problem of beiing" Blind with open Eyes" !

Twe Bible / Old Testament/ Torah, has been written as an egyptian KING-LIST with no moral purposes
in 625 the Persian king Cambysos captured Memphisd and King Darius ordered the EgyptianState RECORDS
to be transferred to the Library of the new Persian world-residence of PERSEPOLIS( near Susa in IRAN.)
 wher King Aleander the Great, had them burned in 331 bc after a brawl with a heteare called Thais( but maybe the original Persian thought that burning the Stae records would make the government of Persia by the Greeks impossible and thety would leave accordingly, which they did not But it did make a united greek Satrapic-government of Persia, by the greek Diadocii impossible.

LUCK has it that 100 years before that in: 444 bc a Scribe named EZDRAS translated the Egyptian State chronicles
from Egyptian Hieroglyphs probably still hierartic into Aramic  the Persian state-language(or Hebrew with syncopated greek capitals.)

The jewish PRIESTHOOD in Persia had no possesions nor income so Ezdras felt a moral obligation to instignate the building of a new Temple in old Jerusalem to provide a- thite- income for the Priesthood that they did not enjoy staying in the capital. so he zelotted for a" ANABASIS - JUDAIICA " we don't know how these State-records looked like or whether they were the originals or syncopated copies. So the narrative must have been 'doctered' to suit the new Persian overlord.

The Israelians were Egyptians and the Israelian Kings were egyptian Kings but at the Time Egypt ( under king AMYRTAOS' -shortlived-27-th Dynasty)was a rebellious enemy of and at war with Persia, so EZDRAS in order
to"  let his people go" to former egyptian territories had to pretend that 'MOSES' was supposedly,  an egyptian renegate and fugitive( which he was not, he was even a megalomaniac -Pharaoh, who wanted to conquer the World even the -then-Persian homelands!)So you see what a dillemna Ezdras had to overcome in presenting a former PERSIANS- BASHER as a friendly man fleeing from ' agressive' Egyptians !The rebuilding of the Temple was
a lost caused only another man named NEHEMIA was able to fullfil the Priestly dream of a new Temple in a new israel. But strangely enough Old jerusalem(= ADEN.) had become a desaerted place so a New Jerusalem ( the Present one ) was built and the present Israelians still think that THIS was the KUDDUSH or KADESH of King David!

MOON FALLS to Earth twice in the Greek Myths:
MOON has had several names which I will mention here partly:

EYE of RE, Splendour of Israel, Lucifer, (Radiant-) Prince of Darkness, ATON- PHAEATON, Typhon, Charon, ISTHAR HAEFESTOS, EURYMEDA, LATONA LADON,  SELENA, DIONE, DIONE- Nyssos, APHRODITE, ASHTARTE TIA- MAAT etc.

When HEAPHESTUS or HAPHAISTOS ! was born from Jupiter & Venus( no sooner that 1055 bc he was so ugly that his mother HERA casted him to Earth.  By this collision Hephaistos got a lame leg so he was costantly limping which the moon still does. because it's iron core is not evenly spread on the interior.

The second time now his Father Jupiter found his son so ugly that he casted him to Earth, where he fell to the isle of Samos ( not the present one .)and learned the friendly inhabitants to grow Samos-wine, before returning to Zeus

God-King Salmanasser-3 demonised the earthen-Avatar of the Moon, the Holi- White Elephant in 855 bc because
it supposedly caused the TSUNAMI that drowned his siege Army before ADEN( -before it was renamed Jerusalem.)
So he had the thousand of them murdered. in the KORAN ADEN as an Elephant City was named The City of the 1.000 " PILLARS " of Ad- IREM(= Hiram.) Thus these Pillars of Heracles wereoriginally Elephants(= Cherubs.) later changed into winged-Lions that carried the setting- Sun.)

In the Christan Lore the GOD of the Genesis-3 verse 4 is an interloper called Salmanasser-3 where he orders the Paradise Snake to loose his four paws and crouch and eat dust because he told Adam & Eve to " eat from the Tree of Knowledge"(= Boaz & Jachin  or Tannin and Tanmin.)
The " TREE"  of Knowledge however is a metaphore for a Planetarium ( which issalso a mandala Temple of Poseidon in Aden. and Stonehence whether with wet or dry moats !)which was used to predict these annual Hightide and 50 years apart major Tsunamies( caused by the regulary conjunctions of Mars and Moon.)

ATLANTIS/ JERUSALEM as " CENTER of the World."
So the Circle design of Atlantis capital was used as a Star or Moon chartering/ measuring plain
the Sundial is a simple piece of wood but for charteing the Star expansion a larger measuring floor was needed
Atlantis ( like Jerusalem) was called "the Centre of the World" and the "tree" in the Court of Poseidon's Temple was supposedly the Center of the World( the Cartographic World ofcourse.)
The honorific title of the assyrian kings was: LORD of the Four " Pillars " of the World " or of the Four" Cardinals"
So the PILLARS of the world whether of Chronos or Heracfles refer to  A DIAL- ELEPHANT representing the ( Four) regions of the WIND- DIAL  ( I forget the names of these Four DIAL Elephants who have a colour attached to the Windregion name.  The 4 or 5 Riders of the Apocalypse refer to the Plagues that tormented Earth's churning-surface

Since by penalty of Death the White Elephant was FORBIDDEN to be depicted thus tabooed artists found a way to circumvent the Elephant Icon by making it a Cherub/ Girl with wings. or stylising it into the ANKH form( a sandal-string?  my foot !)However ADEN was demonised too it became the " Underworld of HADES " the White Elephant was painted red, the Ears were clipped to look like Batwings and the Tusks were clipped too to look like goats horns.  The Name of the Pharaoh as "Strong Elephant bull "was changed into just "Strong Bull "
only Poseidon's Trident remained intact as to remind that Poseidon originally was an Elephant God.

In the Catachismus it says somewhere that there are TWO ways to reach virtual" Paradis" after death the Small and the Broad-way these were the Port-approaches to ADEN port ! ADEN was Jerusalem the Holi- City in Paradise!
When LUCIFER became SATAN( Chaietano.) he fell into the Ocean, trough Earth  and came out the other end,
Probably the INDIAN ocean !( Which has a bumped basin. )

In the HINDU MYTH originally a postulation from an Egyptian origine,
Planet VENUS(= VISNUS approached Earth so close that it caused it to turn around in circles wshich in the RIG- Veda-Purana's is called the " CHURNING of the MILK- Sea" ( we would call it the Milkyway. )
Greek Hero Heracles is supposed to have caused the MILKYWAY in EXISTANCE BY BRUISING HIS FOSTERMOTHER( HERA'S) NIPPLE. ( By the Velikovsky-Time reckoning.) Heracles was born in :880 bc but the Churning was in 855 bc.

"WAR of the GODS same as  WRATH of the GODS"

Plato must have known of TWO separate occasions of a TSUNAMI/ Flood hitting Atlantis because he merged the Elements of both into " ONE" Cataclysm.

An author named Walter Schlossmann has researched the DATE for the AXIS of the Earth to have collapsed after the " WAR of the GODS " which than would be the same as the WRATH of the GODS !" he found out that the Egyptians called the second Moonfall the " Great RAASH "and guessed its occurance as around 850 -800 bc
which is very near the Mark of 855 bc.

CONCLUSION:

TWO forgotten MOONfalls have re-shaped Earth's surface and the Star-constellations since 1055 bc.
Since the Egyptians were the major civilisation at the time the origin of the Atlantis Flood story is egyptian
other religions were from vassal kindoms and when politically independant just local translations followed  the egyptian example.

Only the second datable Moonfall in 855 bc was characterized as the War of the Gods(= Constellations named after Gods.)PLATO made the original story into a" Wrath of the Gods" for the HYBRIS of" Modern" ATHENS
in the case of the Failed raid on Syracuse, but he was under scrutiny of Persian-Sharmast censors so he had to use metaphores to avoid goiing to prison for violating the Censor's code.

Plato also used" flowerly" Attic Dialect which was obsolete by the time his Atlantis Dialogues surfaced and were wrongly translated into Latin which fooled atlantologists for nearly 2000 years about the location of this land where the inhabitants enjoyed a longer life by drinking from a Fountain of Youth( Tree of Life!) and a Tree of Knowledge( a Planetarium.)The " Gold" in this City however was yellow mud with Iron oxide and the Fountain contained brackish (= Hydro-Thermal Soda-)water.

This City of Atlantis was according to Plato opposite where an Island flanked by Pillars was facing the Mouth of the Western Ocean in the land of the Hyperboreans. Thus neither in America nor Spain nor on an Oceanic Isle.
Only someone with an inkling of greek latin and ancient cartography should have no trouble in quickly locating Atlantis( As: ADEN in ARABY.)

However since from the 1.000 -wouldbe-non- hero members of Atlantis on Line website,  only THREE seem to have an understanding of Latin an Greek ( ATALANTE, GEORGEOS, RICH, '.)it is - statistically-impossible that they  locate Atlantis as Plato meant it to be. and thus save for a spellbreaker that could upsett the applecart,
the mainstream of atlantologists will continue to bark-up the wrong tree on basis of a corrupted " Textus- receptus " that the Layman considders as the " Original' Text thus creating and cherishing a falsh tradition.

Thank you for your comments and iI humbly appologize  to be that " Spelbreaker " of falsh traditions in history.

In 2010 in Athens
I intend to " defend " the above-incomplete- statement with editorial help from: hero-member ' JULIA 'and will try to arouse a feature intrest from the Magazine(-s) best suited to promote this " Blue-Atlantis-theory"

Sincerely "  Blue Hue " dd 20- may---2009, from Polly-Univ. Delft / Holland.

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Scientists have vastly overstated Geological & historical Dates, they told that Mars was hit by a comet  millions of years ago NOW they said it could have been in 1.000 bc ! Dr Velikovsky already said that 1500 bc was actually 1.000 bc next Atlantis did not" sink " in 10.000 bc but around 1.055 bc .Read my Blue-THUMB-nail Rules !

This little tidbit is known as The Giant Impactor Theory and in my opinion the best theory on how the moon was created.  Enjoy.  Smiley
Scientists say that 4.5 billion years ago an asteroid or small (Mars-sized) planet came careening through space and crashed into the proto-Earth. As a result of the titanic collision the impacting planet was vaporized and huge,
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« Reply #199 on: May 20, 2009, 09:09:17 am »








PSYCHIATRIST Dr. Velikovsky.




He was a ZIONIST who was 'hell-bent' on making Israel 'important' - which was at the root of all
his 'theories'.....


Immanuel Velikovsky

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky




THE BIO IS NOT FLATTERING, BH....



TOO BAD   P S Y C H I A T R I S T   Dr. Velikovsky is not around to give YOU a thoughrough


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« Reply #200 on: May 20, 2009, 09:25:21 am »

Blue Hue - why are you fixated on this Velikovsky?  If you were to study a few other things besides him, you would find that his theories cannot be correct.  Especially when it comes to the laws of physics.  You keep saying the moon bounced off earth.  It could not have done so, as I've suggested to you before, because the gravity of the earth and the lessening of momentum when it hit earth, would prevent it from escaping back out again.
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« Reply #201 on: May 20, 2009, 09:32:39 am »

Besides, if the Moon hit the earth I doubt very much we would be here talking about it.
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« Reply #202 on: May 20, 2009, 09:35:31 am »







ROTFLMAO,

Robert!!


Thanks for the chuckle....
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« Reply #203 on: May 20, 2009, 09:40:02 am »

Yeah Robert, I've tried to tell him that before too but he doesn't get it Huh

Although, I have read somewhere in this forum I think, about the "cavity" in the Pacific ocean that was supposedly caused by something hitting the earth back in the mysts somewhere.  However, I doubt it escaped out the other side of the earth and ended up back in space.
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« Reply #204 on: May 20, 2009, 10:28:04 am »

Dear............ mr. WIND,

The Moon was a captured Satelite just as Planet Pluto was once a captured Satelite by Planet Neptune !
most Satelites are unstable and tend to hit the larger one before establishing a circular or Oval orbit !
So our Moon is no differend only it happened in historical times and A( egyptian-)Astronomers could watch it.

At a later Time Egypt and Assur became enemies and the Assyrians made egyptian astronomy a FORBIDDEN science"
that is in a Nutshell why most astrophycisists have never heard of an Earth/ Moon collision ( or two.)but it is still in the Scriptures !~

Around 1870
the Brittish- marine, Depatement,  had measured the depth of the indian Ocean and concluded that it was the deepest ocean basin on Earth
so they reckoned that such a generally deep basin could only have been the imprint of a Moon-birth depending on the idea of( LaMarc ?)
that Earth was a fluid-spinn-off ( extracted from)the Sun ( by a pasing Star/ Sirius.)and the Moon spinned -off a still Fluid Earth.

However  all stonecoreEarth-like Planets originate from the exploded Star-core of a Binary ex-companion of our Sun,
or rather to be more precise in the R.Lyttleton Theorem of 1936

Our Sun was originally not a Solar system at all , but a twice larger Binary Sun-Team.
one exploded into 5 Gaseaous Planets, the 5-th beiing the largest and closed to the Sun became unstable
and exploded in it's turn( as a nova explosion. )Thus that left us with 4 Gaseous Giant Planets and one fragmented ex-Planet

This  elusive 5-th ex-planet had fractured into 3 major Planets:  Earth( twice as big then, Mars trice as big then and planet Venus trice as big too
but Plannet Venus was ejected by the explosion on a hyperbolic tract around the Sun and would return to Earth once in a 100 years( does that sound familiar ?)Mars & Earth were blown away from a possible early orbit around the Sun and started an orbit around Planet Jupiter instead.

Next in my Blue's-Atlantis theory the whole devellopement of this proto Earth warmed by nucleair reactions from Protoplasm through Dinosaurs and Neolithic era happened whilst orbiting around Planet Jupiter which as GOD" AMUN" became the Heliopolitan Chief God of the Egyptians, who sometimes " sent his EYE"(= Venus/ Astarte ejecting from the great RED- Spot to spy on Earth.)

Only when this wandering Planet Venus/ METIS became Themis/ Athene/ Minerva in one of it's wanderings hit the ocean covered Planet MARS
( in the Greeks early days Mars/ Ares,  was Called Poseidon the Sea-God.) with such heat/ force that all the water evaporated instandlyand mars orbit it combination with Venus velocity changed course towards the later /present Sun orbit pulling Earth with it,

The Ice-Ages may have been caused not in millions of years but rather within 100 ( violent !)years,  by the Water of Mars falling on nearby Earth in a frozen state, together with a lower Air preassures
on Earth.Strange but it must be a Law of nature that SNOW on mountains and the borderline above which even0-mountain trees don't grow
must be linked with lower Air-preassure or lower gravity-core attraction. certainly when air preasure becomes too low trees cannot haul-up water

However Flowers on mountaintops bloom better because of the constant sunshine which seems contradictory because the Sun seems not hot enough to melt the ( permqanent-)snow and yet summerflowers are doing well onsnowy mountaintops( in the secluded clefts free of snowfall.)

Sincerely " Blue Hue "  dd May 20---2009

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I hope that you are satisfied with my reply Huh

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Alright ! I have to ask a question, where did this whole moon hitting the Earth thing come from?   This is new to me.
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« Reply #205 on: May 20, 2009, 10:30:37 am »

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Besides, if the Moon hit the earth I doubt very much we would be here talking about it.

Good point Robert Smiley

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Yeah Robert, I've tried to tell him that before too but he doesn't get it

Let's see if I can get him to understand!   I'll use terms that he can relate to.

Blue Hue-Conclusion  MOON+Earth=BIG BOOM! Shocked Shocked Shocked   This means no more Humans, no more Earth, and no more Moon Angry Shocked Cry

Sorry Blue but you can't argue with reality! Wink
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« Reply #206 on: May 20, 2009, 10:31:47 am »

Besides, if the Moon hit the earth I doubt very much we would be here talking about it.
Well aparently Seismic waves do travel a strange way largebuildings collaps but traditiona bamboo dwellings mayy have survived the resulting Floods an became riverboats!  Most cause of death with Earthquakes and Volcano-eruptions is not flying debris but asphixiation !
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« Reply #207 on: May 20, 2009, 10:43:23 am »

Dear........mr WIND,
you had not yet read reply nr 204, when you typed your entry nr 205 so I hereby  replied with reply nr 206 + 207 Thank You.

Seismic shock-waves  travel a strange way when Moon hit earth first on Antartica it did beat a cupped-basin
but the shock was abated when the shockforce split the Atlantic sea-floor open and than the effect dissipated

However at the second Moonfalling it hit the SEAsurfice around the hawaiian isles and this time sent a TSUNAMI reeling around the Globe !
but houses then may have yet  been of Wood/ bamboo and may have become riverboats thus saving people instead from drowning

I am not familiar with Greek Folklore  costums,  but I still have a calender Sheet with King Constantine in  kakhi-millitary uniform" Beating Egg-shells" with a little Girl dressed in white the thing is to take care to keep one's own  ( boiled-)Eggs whole so you get them both( Eggs were a rich man's pivilige once.) Maybe they are acting out the once observed collision of EARTH WITH THE MOON THAT CRACKED OPEN THE  previously non- existing Ocean floors around" Pangea " !

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Besides, if the Moon hit the earth I doubt very much we would be here talking about it.

Good point Robert Smiley

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Yeah Robert, I've tried to tell him that before too but he doesn't get it

Let's see if I can get him to understand!   I'll use terms that he can relate to.

Blue Hue-Conclusion  MOON+Earth=BIG BOOM! Shocked Shocked Shocked   This means no more Humans, no more Earth, and no more Moon Angry Shocked Cry

Sorry Blue but you can't argue with reality! Wink
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« Reply #208 on: May 20, 2009, 11:02:42 am »

Dear............Q,

Still that is what the Bible says:
"the Satan was struck by the Army-Horsepower -chariots of the" Lord "(= Planet Mars. and it's " MARUTS"= horsemen.)
So the light-Arch- Angel" Lucifer" fell to Earth and came out the other end" but this may be a metaphore or a badly described observation delusion!
the  errant -Moon may have seemed to enter the Earth in the sea, and to come out the other end by just passing-by,  at close range !

but that's not what happensd so it is a badly decribed observation.

Actually the Moon did fall in 855 for the second time but this time not on a mountaintop as in Antartica but on the water of the Pacific Ocean at Hawaii isles. THERE it entered the Ocean in a mistofwaterfoam rolled down the Aisle and bounced offat the Indian Ocean creating the Indian Ocean (= Somali-)basin.At that time the greek astronomers still lived at South Arabia and described the MOON as DIONE- Nyssos re-apearing from the Sea coverrred in Sea-FOAM as" APHRODITE " this means that the Name Aphrodite for( not Venus but )the Moon is no older than this Event of 855 bc.

Planet Venus and PlanetMoon are often interchanged in myths which is which ? Diana, Artemis./Hathor,  or Aphrodite Moon or Venus ?!

Yeah Robert, I've tried to tell him that before too but he doesn't get it Huh

Although, I have read somewhere in this forum I think, about the "cavity" in the Pacific ocean that was supposedly caused by something hitting the earth back in the mysts somewhere.  However, I doubt it escaped out the other side of the earth and ended up back in space.
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2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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« Reply #209 on: May 20, 2009, 11:10:56 am »

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you had not yet read reply nr 204, when you typed your entry nr 205 so I hereby  replied with reply nr 206 + 207 Thank You.

Blue Hue I did read your comments after I had posted, if they had changed my opinion then I would have removed my comment, but as you can see my comment is still there so my opinion stands.
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