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Jesse Neel
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« on: January 29, 2009, 07:30:23 pm »

Atlantis: Concealed and Revealed

   Atlantis . . . just the mention of the word conjures images of magical crystals, laser beams, undersea ships, and ancient flying machines. A mystical land of Eden-like qualities populated by a Utopian society where all needs are provided and all wants fulfilled. A place where fantasy and reality are blurred by the imagination of man.
   Yet, we continue to pursue the dream as a tangible fact. We have chased the island continent to the four corners of the globe and across the seven seas, all the while, questioning our reason and our sanity in the pursuit of what may or may not be.
   This conception has been our folly, and our failure. We have been seeking an illusion in a dreamlike state. Searching for what we know to be fleeting and unobtainable, but unable in our nature to release the false ideals that lurk in the corridors of our minds. We have abandoned that sensible place in our conscience that tells us we are gathering bouquets of clouds.
   In our rush to reveal to ourselves that which we crave most, we have lost our way. Eden is a faded photo and Utopia is but a wishful wisp. We have been charging our quest with vapors and driving our efforts in a vacuum. Atlantis is not a warm summer’s eve or a soft-spoken sonnet. Nor does it exist on that ethereal plain where all is ease and comfort.
   Atlantis is not an ideal or an emotion, but a concrete and factual location. A place where men and women toiled and tilled, gathered and ground, and forged a life for themselves and a future just as you or I do today. A place where generations of humanity planned and built on the labors and knowledge of those who came before them. A civilization that carried trade and original thought across the entire globe. A culture, by virtue of its ancient origins, that has affected the history and destiny of planet Earth.
   How is this possible? More to the point, I think, is where was this possible. I will not take you to all the probabilities. I will not drag you through all the peradventures of previous thought, or tease you through a tale of tedious information and then leave you to come to your own conclusions. I am going to take you to there. I am going to show you the elephant, not the footprint. I will lead you from the alpha to the omega, from the genesis of the geology to the revelation of the reality. In the beginning, there was an end. The end of the world as it was known . . . 65 million years ago.
   Plato, in his dialogue Critias, gives us a description of our long lost ancestors, their country, and their capital city. This description, as he relates it to us, was given to the Greeks by priests of Egypt. This point is of note as Egypt will play a significant role in our discovery.
   Of the formation of the capital city, Plato writes:
   “In the days of old the gods had the whole earth distributed among them by allotment. And Poseidon, receiving for his lot the island of Atlantis . . . an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia. . . . Looking towards the sea, but in the center of the whole island, there was a plain which is said to have been the fairest of all plains and very fertile. Near the plain again, and also in the center of the island . . . there was a mountain not very high on any side. . . . Poseidon . . . breaking the ground, enclosed the hill . . . making alternate zones of sea and land larger and smaller, encircling one another; there were two of land and three of water, which he turned as with a lathe, each having its circumference equidistant every way from the center . . . and gave the impression that a work of such extent, in addition to so many others, could never have been artificial.”
   Plato has given us a description of a prehistoric island of continental proportions with an enormous geological feature attributed not to the physical efforts of man, but to the natural act of a God. There is only one event that could be considered an act of God (Nature) that would cause the formation of immense concentric rings on the Earth and at the same moment produce a mound or hill, known as central uplift, at its center - the impact of a comet or asteroid. The impact crater must be located at or near sea level since Atlantis is referred to as an island that allows the depressed zones to be filled with sea water. Keeping in mind that the story Plato is recounting took place during the last ice age when sea levels were dramatically lower, we are seeking a crater that is completely or partially covered by an ocean or sea, and has endured 11,000 years of sedimentary buildup and/or wind and rain erosion since the destruction of Atlantis. Before that, depending on the actual age of the impact, the crater may have endured thousands or even millions of years of the same.
   But, Plato doesn’t stop there, he gives us a further description of the land:
   “. . . very lofty and precipitous on the side of the sea, but the country immediately about and surrounding the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea; it was smooth and even, and of an oblong shape. . . .”
   This information assists in narrowing the search. We now know that the crater is submerged, or at least partially, and sets on a large, level, and oblong plain, surrounded by mountains. Considering the levels of the seas at that time, we are almost certainly to find what we are looking for on a continental shelf. But where in the world is crater incognito?
   The final clues imparted to us by the ancient philosopher are those which will lead us to our objective, albeit indirectly:
   “He (Poseidon) also begat and brought up five pairs of twin male children . . . the eldest, who was the first king, he named Atlas, and after him the whole island and the ocean were called Atlantic. . . . All these (twins) and their descendants for many generations were the inhabitants and rulers of diverse islands in the open sea . . . they held sway . . . as far as Egypt. . . .”
   They held sway as far as Egypt. Atlantis came to and end approximately 11,000 years ago, but for generations before that the Atlantians held sway over Egypt. The significance of this one line that was not lost to the ages, this one tiny bit of information that came to Greece directly from Egypt, will change the history of the world. How many hundreds or thousands of years did these seafaring people carry on trade with the citizens of the Mediterranean? And where is the evidence of their rule? They were also “rulers of diverse islands in the open sea.” Which Islands?
   We should begin where they held sway . . . Egypt. The Egyptians began recording their own history about 3200 B.C.E., and they wrote on everything. They wrote on skins, they wrote on papyrus, and they wrote on stone. They wrote on their walls, their buildings, their monuments and their tombs. With all this information written all across Egypt, there should be some mention of a civilization that controlled two continents and the largest ocean on the planet. But there isn’t. Not a word, not a whisper. When it comes to Atlantis, we run into a blank wall - literally. What we have missed is what is missing.
   There is one place in Egypt where the walls do not speak and the temples have no voice. No inscriptions of any kind are found here; no carving, no painting, not even graffiti. Ironically, these structures surround, and are related to, the most famous testament to silence in the world - The Sphinx. The statue is an anomaly in itself. All the other representations of gods, or pharaohs as gods, are shown as human bodies with animal heads. The Sphinx is the only presentation of an animal’s body with a human head. And, the head is terribly out of proportion to what would have been the original body. The original body having been worn away by thousands of years of rainfall and repaired numerous times. There is one more small piece of information about the great mute monstrosity. It faces the rising of the constellation Leo, as it appeared some 15,000 years ago during the last ice age, when Atlantis ruled Egypt. So here we have a complex that is out of place and out of time with the ancient Egyptian culture. Does this give us the location of the lost capital city of our ancestors? No, but it shows us the way.
   Egypt is our weigh station. It is our connection from the writings of Plato to the next clue in our quest. Though no written proof of Atlantis remains in Egypt today, at one time, Egypt was the intellectual and artistic capital of the ancient world. In 332 B.C.E. Alexander the Great conquered Egypt and founded his namesake metropolis Alexandria. On the death of Alexander in 323 B.C.E. his empire was divided among his generals and Ptolemy was appointed governor of Egypt. Alexandria became a center of Hellenistic culture and contained a great library founded by Ptolemy I that was said, by the time of its destruction in the 3rd century C.E., to have contained 700,000 volumes. Scholars, scientists, and artisans from across the known world made pilgrimages to the great city to learn and return to their respective realms. The information was copied and carried to and from every nation and country for six centuries. The loss of the library at Alexandria was the single greatest tragedy in history. The collective mind of all humanity was erased forever, including Egypt’s Atlantian heritage. Or was it?
   Egyptian priests managed to save a few scraps and scrolls, but nothing pertaining to Atlantis. We must look elsewhere. Surely somewhere on the planet something of the original library exists. Some document, or diagram, or perhaps a map exists that will give us some hint of that which we seek.
   Istanbul (Constantinople) is a seaport at the entrance to the Black Sea and Turkey’s largest city. Founded by Greek colonists in the 7th century B.C.E. as the capital of the Byzantine Empire it still exists today. In 334 B.C.E. the city accepted Macedonian rule and, when Alexander died, became a part of the Hellenistic culture along with Egypt. In 330 C.E. Constantine I chose Byzantium as the site of New Rome and renamed the city Constantinople. The city was sacked by the armies of the 4th Crusade in 1204 and the Latin Empire of Constantinople was created. But, in 1261 Michael VIII reclaimed the city for the Byzantines. In 1453, after a long siege, Constantinople fell to the Ottoman Turks and became the capital of the Ottoman Empire.
   Piri Reis was an Admiral in the Navy of the Ottoman Turks, and was involved, often on the winning side, in numerous sea battles of the mid-16th century. He was, in addition, a cartographer and considered to be an expert on the area around the Mediterranean Sea. He was the author of a famous nautical book, known as the Kitabi Bahriye, which provided a comprehensive description of the coasts, harbors, currents, shallows, landing places, bays and straits of the Aegean and Mediterranean Seas. In Constantinople, sometime in 1513, the Admiral produced a map of the western coast of Africa, the eastern coast of South America, the Gulf of Mexico and the northern coast of Antarctica. Admiral Reis could not have acquired the information on this latter region from contemporary explorers because Antarctica remained undiscovered until 1818 C.E., more than 300 years after he drew the map. The ice-free coast of Antarctica shown on the map is a puzzle because the geological evidence confirms that the latest probable date that the antarctic could have been surveyed and charted in an ice-free condition is 4000 B.C.E. In other words, the true enigma of this 1513 map is not its inclusion of a continent that was not discovered until 1818 but rather its depiction of the coastline of that continent under ice-free conditions that came to an end 6,000 years ago and have not since recurred. This profile remained completely hidden from view from 4000 B.C.E. (when the advancing ice-sheet covered it) until it was revealed again during a seismic survey of Antarctica (Queen Maud Land) that was carried out in 1949 by a joint British-Swedish scientific team. Additionally, the Falkland Islands appear on the 1513 map at their correct latitude although they remained undiscovered until 1592. The Turkish Admiral gives no clue as to the identity of the cartographers who had produced the earlier maps, but in a series handwritten notes on the map itself,  he honestly admits that his role was merely that of the compiler and copyist and his own map was derived from a large number of source maps. Some of these had been drawn by contemporary or near-contemporary explorers (including Christopher Columbus), who had by then reached South America and the Caribbean, but others were documents of great antiquity. Some of the source maps the Admiral had made use of were based on even older sources, which in turn had been based on sources originating in the farthest antiquity. They must have been collected and studied in the great library of Alexandria, compiled by the geographers who worked there, then transferred to other centers of learning - notably Constantinople. Unbelievable as it may appear, the evidence indicates that ancient people explored Antarctica when its coasts were free of ice. The source maps that Piri Reis used to draw his 1513 map were lodged in either the library at the University of Istanbul (founded 1453) or the Imperial Library at Constantinople, both of which the Admiral is known to have enjoyed privileged access. These source maps no longer exist or have yet to be rediscovered. It was, however, in the library of the old Imperial Palace at Constantinople that the Piri Reis map was found, painted on a gazelle skin and rolled up on a dusty shelf. The Piri Reis Map also portrays a large island in the Atlantic Ocean to the east of the South American coast where no such island now exists. It is not coincidence that this "imaginary" island turns out to be located right over the Mid-Atlantic Ridge where the Rocks of St. Peter and St. Paul now jut above the waves. This relevant source map was drawn from a library of ancient sources, compiled deep in the last Ice Age, when sea levels were far lower than they are today and a large island would have been exposed at this spot. In fact, the Admiral’s map is peppered with “diverse islands in the open sea.” Most of them tending toward the Gulf of Mexico.
   A grid map of the Piri Reis map has been produced to show the approximate latitudes and longitudes of the islands and land masses. Also, the features of the original map have been numbered and labeled on the grid for reference and shows the Gulf of Mexico has been swung through an arc of about 78 degrees to fit on the medium. This is the section with which we are most concerned.
   On the grid  there is an island that lies between 17 and 22 degrees north latitude, and 82 and 92 degrees west longitude. This Island is numbered 25 and identified as Cuba. This island is not Cuba. This island is the Yucatan Peninsula. While Cuba and the Yucatan do lie in about the same latitude (17 to 22 degrees), it is the Yucatan that lies in the proper longitude. During the last ice age the Yucatan Peninsula was much larger (east to west), due to the lower water levels, and would have covered the area approximately 82 to 92 degrees west longitudes. Cuba would not have been much larger (east to west) and would lie approximately where it does now, 75 to 85 degrees west longitude. What does this correction mean to us? The most astonishing and exciting scientific finds of the new millennia.
   On the Turkish Admiral’s original map, north of the supposed island of Cuba, there are three rectangular figures. At a glance these three figures would appear to be nothing more than another cluster of islands. But, when placed in context with the words of Plato, they take on a whole new meaning.
   “The entire circuit of the wall, which went round the outermost zone, they covered with a coating of brass, and the circuit of the next wall they coated with tin, and the third, which encompassed the citadel, flashed with the red light of orichalcum.”
   These three small figures; one silver (tin), one gold (brass), and one red (orichalcum) are the walls of the capital city of Atlantis. Each of the walls has a gate notch in its top and when a straight line is passed through these notches, the line points directly at the northern tip of the Yucatan Peninsula. And, we all know what lies at the tip of the Yucatan Peninsula - the Chicxulub Impact Crater.
   Sixty-five million years ago a comet or asteroid struck the Peninsula and caused deep ripples on the planet similar to a drop of rain in a puddle. The resultant blast brought an end to the reign of the dinosaurs, and changed the course of evolution. Despite the millions of years of climatic erosion and tectonic shifts - or perhaps because of it - our ancestors came across the circular channels and made them their home. These ripples remain today partially covered by the waters of the Gulf of Mexico and filled with sediments.
   There sits the lost capital city of Atlantis, half concealed and half revealed, waiting for thousands of years . . . waiting for us.
   Evidence of Atlantis has already been found. Cuban archeologists in 1966 excavated a land-based megalithic structure on the western coast said to date from 4000 BC. The mysterious megalithic structures discovered in the 1960s and 1970s in the sound between the Bahamas islands of North and South Bimini. Megalithic structures reminiscent of pyramids, streets and buildings were discovered in 2001on a great underwater plateau off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on Cuba's western tip. Three well-preserved skeletons were discovered in underwater caves off the Caribbean coast of Yucatan during dives in 2001 and 2002. A charcoal sample found with one of the skeletons was carbon-dated to more than 13,000 years ago - 11,000 B.C. This find represents the oldest carbon date associated with any human bone remains found in the Americas. We are getting close now, and it is only a matter of time.

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Georgium Sidus
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 10:42:28 pm »

Nice summary of the evidence, Jesse, yours?

And welcome to the forum. Cheesy
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Jesse Neel
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 04:44:30 pm »

Thank you, Georgium. Yes. The article is published.
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 11:51:58 pm »

Welcome to the forum, Jesse. 

Evidence of Atlantis has already been found. Cuban archeologists in 1966 excavated a land-based megalithic structure on the western coast said to date from 4000 BC.

Do you have anything more on this? It's the first I've heard of it. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2009, 01:15:31 pm »


Here is the source, it's all I have on the '66 find. (midway down the article)

Signs of ancient city off Cuba


From Friday's Globe and Mail (Toronto, Canada)

December 7, 2001 at 9:34 AM EST

A team of Canadian and Cuban researchers have discovered the remains of what may be a 6,000-year-old city submerged in deep sea waters off the western coast of Cuba.

Using sophisticated sonar and videotape equipment, offshore engineer Paulina Zelitsky, her husband, Paul Weinzweig, and her son, Ernesto Tapanes, have found megaliths "of a kind you'd find at Stonehenge or Easter Island," Mr. Weinzweig said in an interview yesterday.

"Some structures within the complex may be as long as 400 metres wide and as high as 40 metres," he said. "Some are sitting on top of each other. They show very distinct shapes and symmetrical designs of a non-natural kind. We've shown them to scientists in Cuba, the U.S. and elsewhere, and nobody has suggested they are natural."

Moreover, an anthropologist affiliated with the Cuban Academy of Sciences has said that still photos taken from the videotape clearly show "symbols and inscriptions," Mr. Weinzweig said. It is not yet known in what language the inscriptions are written.

The sonar images, he added, bear a remarkable resemblance to the pyramidal design of Mayan and Aztec temples in Mexico.

Mr. Weinzweig said it is too early to draw firm conclusions from the evidence collected so far.

The research team plans another foray to the site — off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on Cuba's western tip — next month. Next summer, it hopes to return again, this time with the first deep-water mobile excavator, equipped with functions needed for on-site archeological evaluation, including the ability to blow sand off stone.

Geologists have recently hypothesized that a land bridge once connected Cuba to Mexico's Yucatan peninsula. And portions of the Cuban island are believed to have been submerged in the sea on three separate occasions in the distant past.

The structures are on a plateau that forms the bottom of what is thought to be a mud volcano, 650 to 700 metres beneath the surface of the ocean and along what is clearly a geological fault line. "It's well known that ancient civilizations liked to build at the base of volcanoes, because the land is fertile. So that's suggestive," Mr.
Weinzweig said.

One tantalizing possibility, entirely speculative for now, is that if the legendary sunken continent of Atlantis is ever proven to have existed, these structures may have been submerged during the same cataclysm.

Mr. Weinzweig simply says that more information is needed. "We'd prefer to stay away from that subject. This is something of great potential scientific interest, but it must involve serious authorities on ancient civilizations."

The precise age of the underwater site is also unknown, although Cuban archeologists in 1966 excavated a land-based megalithic structure on the western coast, close to the new underwater discovery, said to date from 4000 BC. "Based on that and other geological information, we're speculating that these are 6,000 years old," he explained.

"It's not exact, but they're very ancient."

If that dating estimate proves accurate, it would mean that an ancient civilization had designed and erected these vast stone structures in the Americas only 500 years after human settlements first became organized in cities and states.

They would also have been built long before the wheel was invented in Sumeria (3500 BC), or the sundial in Egypt (3000 BC). The three pyramids on Egypt's Giza plateau are thought to have been constructed between 2900 and 2200 BC.

The couple's Havana-based company, Advanced Digital Communications, discovered the site in July of 2000, using side-scan sonar equipment to view what resembled an underwater city, complete with roads, buildings and pyramids.

The team returned this past summer with a 1.3-tonne, unmanned Remotely Operated Vehicle, controlled from the mother ship via fibre-optic cable. Its cameras confirmed the earlier findings, showing vast granite-like blocks, between two and five metres in length, that were cut in perpendicular and circular designs.

But because of technical problems, Mr. Weinzweig said, "we were only able to survey the perimeter of the site. Based on initial explorations, we think it's much larger than even our sonar projections show. It may extend for several kilometres."

In addition to the archeological site, ADC has been exploring what Mr. Weinzweig calls "the richest underwater cemetery in the world" for sunken Spanish galleons.

Hundreds of treasure-bearing ships are said to lie around the island, several hundred to several thousand metres deep.

Last year, off Havana Bay, it found the remains of USS Maine, the battleship that blew up in 1898. That incident, never entirely explained, killed 260 sailors and precipitated the Spanish-American War.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2009, 09:08:32 pm »

Jesse I read your paper on this at the eclectic intellect blogspot just a couple weeks ago, I enjoyed it and thought it was well researched.   Anyways I just wanted to say welcome to the forum and that I look forward to your future posts. Grin

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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 08:18:00 pm »

Thank You, Wind. I hope I may make some small contribution.

I would like to add this small (although belated) update.

Oldest Skeleton in Americas Found in Underwater Cave?
Eliza Barclay
for National Geographic News

September 3, 2008

Deep inside an underwater cave in Mexico, archaeologists may have discovered the oldest human skeleton ever found in the Americas.

Dubbed Eva de Naharon, or Eve of Naharon, the female skeleton has been dated at 13,600 years old. If that age is accurate, the skeleton—along with three others found in underwater caves along the Caribbean coast of the Yucatán Peninsula—could provide new clues to how the Americas were first populated.

The remains have been excavated over the past four years near the town of Tulum, about 80 miles southwest of Cancún, by a team of scientists led by Arturo González, director of the Desert Museum in Saltillo, Mexico . . .
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 07:31:01 pm »

Have you returned?
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 11:17:17 pm »

I'm not sure what happened to Jesse, but he hasn't been heard of by anyone I know of in the last two years.

Here is a link where the article he wrote above was originally posted:

Here is a genealogy where someone of the same name is now deceased?

Hard to know if it is the same person.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 10:00:04 pm »

Hello Detective,

Yes, I am returned, though not yet quite recovered. There are two items I can testify to be absolutely certain. The Yucatan is one of the most beautiful death traps on the planet, and, there are hot and cold springs just offshore.


I am touched by your concern, but the rumors of my demise are somewhat premature, although it was a damned close-run thing.

There are scientists and pseudo-scientists crawling all over the place (very much to my amazement, one or two recognized my name).There was even one group of, I'm not sure how to label them, attempting to channel Edgar Cayce. They said they were, or rather they ARE. I think they were high and are stoned. Whatever they are, they were happy. There were diverse divers, diggers, and dredgers. A plethora of pre-historic paleo-professors. A gaggle of geophysical gomers, and one guy from an oil company questioning his very presence, growling,"I don't know why I'm here, we're sure as hell not gonna drill". I traded him a bottle of hydrogen peroxide for an old army compass.

Oh, yeah. The two guys who said they found evidence of Atlantis in the Carribean, and were keeping mum. Were two guys in a pontoon boat, who had a length of rope with a lead weight on the end. They would throw the weight in the water and when it hit bottom they would yell, "Mark Twain", and toss over some empty beer cans.

The fact is, there is evidence of civilization on the continental shelves - everywhere.

Here is some real news:

Skull in Underwater Cave May Be Earliest Trace of First Americans

Posted on February 18, 2011

By Fabio Esteban Amador

Explorers have discovered what might be the oldest evidence of humans in the Americas.

What Was Found at the Bottom of the Black Hole?

While the team of explorers conducted various dives for the purpose of mapping and surveying of this newly discovered pit, they noticed some peculiar bones sitting on the bottom. They first came across several megafauna remains and what was clearly a mastodon bone, while subsequent dives proved even more exciting when they spotted a human skull resting upside down with other nearby remains at about 140 feet [43 meters] depth.

"The findings of Hoyo Negro are a once-in-a-lifetime discovery. The skull looks pre-Maya, which could make it one of the oldest set of human remains in the area. . . ."

What is the Significance of the Discovery of Hoyo Negro?

The human found with the megafauna remains in Hoyo Negro could represent the oldest evidence of humans yet discovered in the Americas.

Archaeological and genetic data have long supported a northeast Asia origin for the populations that first settled North and South America. The so-called "First Americans" or Paleoindian peoples likely entered into these new lands sometime between 15,000 and 20,000 years ago.

Although a number of early archaeological sites have been excavated, only few sets of Paleoindian remains have been found. A detailed analysis of the human skeletal remains from Hoyo Negro can help us to better understand who these First Americans were and when they arrived here, which is one of the greatest mysteries in American archaeology.

Radiometric dating of the human bones from Hoyo Negro will have to wait for now, but its location within the cave, and its position relative to the mastodon remains, are suggestive of its antiquity.

National Geographic has been active in featuring similar discoveries made by cave divers on the Yucatan peninsula. In 2008 National Geographic Daily News published the discovery of the Eve of Naharon, a female skeleton dated to 13,600 years old, which was also found in an underwater cave in Quintana Roo. (Oldest Skeleton in Americas Found in Underwater Cave? )

More recently in 2010, National Geographic Daily News published an article on the Young Man of Chan Hol, a possible ritual burial from 10,000 years ago. (Undersea Cave Yields One of Oldest Skeletons in Americas)

In addition to the latest extraordinary expedition and amazing discovery, Robbie Schmittner connected the Aktun-Hu cave system (where Hoyo Negro is located) to the Sac Actun cave system. Together they may now represent the longest underwater cave system in the world.

All for now, when I get back to normal I will write more.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2011, 04:42:57 pm »

Hey Jesse,

PBS is looking for you again. I don't know if it is about the Sphinx this time. (see the board)
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2011, 08:41:38 pm »

5 April 2011 Last updated at 14:50 ET

Dino crater focus for ocean drilling plans

By Richard Black

Environment correspondent, BBC News, Vienna

Looks like they may drill after all.
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Blue-Hue? is he Just Blind, or a One-eyed 'king' ?

« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2012, 07:27:57 am »

Horbiger and others
say that the Moon got satelites that fell like meteors on Earth
at the same time
the only difference was that these meteorites were in various sizes

So some penetrated deeper into the debris than orthers
this cause confusion in impact date

the heavier meteorites were thus erroneously dated earlier than the lighter ones.
This theory of " BlueHue2" has not been commented yet here
you can be the first to contemplate this conclusion !
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Atlantis in,"historical-Perspective"

This Egyptian,INDIAN-Ocean trade-Empire was
ruled by-CEO-Queen Tiy

PLATO wrote (GREEK!)" ATHE " Now,Aden= Solomon's/OFIR, in Herodotus-Araby-Map

ATLANTIS-Dialogue=Satire,on Athens-Trade boycott(of Darius2,413bc)
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