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Opinions FOR and AGAINST Athens Existing At Time Of Atlantis 9000 BCE

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Rennes-le-Château
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« Reply #105 on: February 14, 2016, 12:53:10 am »

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Therefore those that mean to fly around this site and spread all their nonsense about me, like Rennes, who knows nothing of Plato, but also is one of those "great debaters" who cannot even do the math nor tell time, as to Plato's time period, in relation to the arrow of time, and Christ's disciples authoring the New Testament, those I exclude, categorically! 

I'm the one who can't do the math or tell time  Me?  Roll Eyes
Dude, you are a fantasist who wants to replace the Cayce New Age myth of Atlantis with the idea that Plato was somehow a devout Christian four hundred years before the religion even came into being and, in Atlantis, he was actually describing Judgment Day, just like John the Revelator. You've repeated this drivel repeatedly since you first came here. Now run along back to whatever hole your lame self crawled out of, people are sick of you.
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« Reply #106 on: February 16, 2016, 07:32:00 pm »

Now it begins to make sense. Hermocrates, if you are indeed having emotional problems, did it ever occur to you that an internet forum might not be the best place to sort them out?  My heavens, man, get some help before its too late.
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« Reply #107 on: December 06, 2023, 10:11:04 pm »

I have a new argument from the text for this.  We have Ge, 1000 years prior, and Hephaestus(Ptah), 8000 years before that(or 9000 years).  And that the 9000 years for Ptah matches the mythological/theological timeframe for Ptah is true.  So the translation is fine; and the 9000 years could come from the Priest to match this theological timeline.

The Problem here, is that the Greek Ge, delivers the weapons for the war.  No weapons, no war.  So 1000 years prior, matching Ge, is the actual timeline, and the 9000 is an artificial insert from the Egyptian Priest.
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Now there is a secondary problem... was Ptah 8000 years old when Ge came? Was it the same dude?  Instead, could there have been a second Ptah who lived 8000 years later, at the same time as Ge?

Serapis is the "second ptah".  And we have an 18th dynasty monument to him, the Serapeum of Saqarra. So he generally matches the 1000 year time frame.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/serapis.htm
"On a monument of the 19th Dynasty, Apis is said to be "the renewed life of Ptah," and in an inscription of the 25th Dynasty he is called the "second Ptah." In the same text we have a mention of the "temple of Asar-Hapi (Osirapis)," and here it is clear that his identity had been merged with that of Osiris."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apis_(deity)
This Osorapis was identified with Serapis of the late Hellenistic period and may well be identical with him. Creating parallels to their own religious beliefs, ancient Greek writers identified Apis as an incarnation of Osiris, ignoring the connection with Ptah.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapeum
"The Serapeum of Saqqara, a necropolis located near Memphis, Egypt, was the burial place of the Apis bull, the living manifestation of the god Ptah.

Cult of the Bull
'[120a] all the limbs of the bull, they mixed a bowl of wine and poured in on behalf of each one a gout of blood, and the rest they carried to the fire, when they had first purged the pillars round about. And after this they drew out from the bowl with golden ladles, and making libation over the fire swore to give judgement according to the laws upon the pillar and to punish whosoever had committed any previous transgression' ' Bury's Critias

Compare to Apis Ceremony at Serapeum:
"The sacrifice of a bull to Apis was not something Egyptians took lightly. Those present felt they had to atone for the killing by beating themselves in penitence while the sacred parts were incinerated."

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So we Identified Ge as Aahotep 2, and Serapis as Ahmose Sapair, and found a picture of the Greek weapons in Egypt:

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The Atlantis story is long and encompasses a lot of Gods.  The timespan for the tale is the entirety of the 18th dynasty. 
1 From Ahmose and the hyksos...
3 Through Phaethon and King Tut...
4 To the Nereids, Amphitrite was the mother of Theseus (before the trojan war) [time of Horemheb]

2 And in Diodorus Myrina Tale, we have Horus as Thutmose IV, with a peace treaty with the Mitanni(near name to Amazon). He was named Pharoah by Horus for unburying the sphinx; he campaigns in Syria.
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