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« on: February 03, 2007, 08:51:45 am »



Nowdla and Bill Keefe free diving the "AtlantisRoad" site

Less than 1 mile off the shore of North Bimini lies a unique underwater

phenomenon. A series of rectangular stones, laid out in 2 straight parallel

rows, lies in less than 15 feet of water. The stones and the two rows are

actually part of a much larger formation that, due to it's size, is only visible

from the air.

The stones and the formation were first discovered in 1968 by a private pilot

who was flying over the island on his way back to the US mainland. This in

itself would not have been much more than a curious discovery if it weren't for

a man named Edgar Cayce.

Edgar Cayce was a well known psychic and clairvoyant who died in the mid -

1940's. Although he made predictions in many areas he had a particular interest

in the "Lost Continent of Atlantis". In 1936, Edgar Cayce predicted that "The

first signs of Atlantis rising would occur in the Bahamas, near the island of

Bimini". He also predicted the year. He narrowed it down to either 1967 or 1968.

31 years after Cayce's original predictions and more than 20 years after Cayce's

death, this formation was discovered!

It was this incredible coincidence that peaked everyone's interest. 2 major

studies of "The Road" were undertaken, each coming to different conclusions. The

media also became fascinated with the site. National Geographic magazine did

numerous features on "The Stones" as did the television program The Undersea

World of Jacques Cousteau.
www.biminiundersea.com/atlantis.htm

 
Is this a "Man Made" formation or just a "Natural Phenomenon" ? And if it is man

made, is it connected to the "Mysterious Lost Continent of Atlantis"?

Over the years, thousands of people have come to Bimini to see, study, and

speculate on the origin of this formation. BIMINI UNDERSEA includes the

"Atlantis Site" in it's regular rotation of dive sites. They also run special

charters for groups and individuals wishing to visit the site.

If you have an interest in Atlantis, keep an eye on your TV. Specials on

Atlantis have been all over your dial recently. NBC, the Discovery Channel, and

PBS have all run programs in the last 2 years featuring Bimini, The Atlantis Site, and BIMINI UNDERSEA.
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2007, 08:53:06 am »

In 1940 the American psychic healer and prophet Edgar Cayce predicted that Atlantis would 'rise again' in 1968 or 19969. So, in 19968, when it seemed that the site of the world's most famous lost land had finally been located in the eastern Mediterranean, news that underwater vast building off the Bahamas shook Atlantist everywhere. The question of Atlantis was reopened. Could this be Poseidia, described by Cayce as the 'western' section of Atlantis? Were Plato and the other Atlantists right after all when they placed their lost civilization way out in the Atlantic Ocean?

In 1968 two commercial pilots flying over the Bahamas spotted what appeared to be several underwater buildings coming to the surface. The pilots made their sightings just off the coast of Bimini and photographed the underwater formations from the air. Their discovery was immediately hailed by some as the fulfillment of a 28 year-old prophecy concerning the reappearance of Atlantis. Indeed one of the pilots had been keeping a lookout for underwater structures while flying his regular assignments because he believed Atlantis was about to reemerge from the Atlantic in this very area.

The man concerned is a member of the Association for Research and Enlightenment, an organization based in Virginia Beach, VA, which is dedicated to the study of the teachings and "psychic readings" of the late Edgar Cayce, the "sleeping prophet" and psychic healer. Between 1923 and 1944 Cayce made numerous references to Atlantis in the course of trance interviews concerning the alleged former lives of the people who consulted him. These interviews were recorded verbatim, and much of the material about Atlantis has been published in a book called Edgar Cayce on Atlantis, by Cayce's son Edgar Cayce. It includes this prediction, made in June 1940:

"Poseidia will be among the first portions of Atlantis to rise again. Expect it in ''68 and '69; not so far away!"

According to the Cayce readings, Poseidia was the "western section of Atlantis," and the area off Bimini is the highest point of this sunken land.

 
Map of Bimini Road drawn after aerial and underwater surveys carried out by the Poseidia 75 expedition, sponsored by the A.R.E. The road is magnified to approximately twice its actual size in relation to the island of Bimini.
Shaped roughly like a letter J, it is some three quarters of a mile long and composed of huge stone blocks, often 15 feet square. On this map, the X marking the discovery of a stone artifact relates to a fragment of what appeared to be tongue and groove masonry discovered on the Poseidia 75 expedition by one of its member - Dr. David Zink.
 

So the A.R.E. is naturally delighted about the underwater find in the Bahamas, just where and when the famous prophet said something would appear. Until this and similar discoveries have been thoroughly explored, we have to admit that There may yet have an equally plausible rival for the title of Atlantis, right where most people always considered the long-lost continent to be - in the Atlantic.

In his book 'The Mystery of Atlantis' Charles Berlitz comments that,

"Other underwater ruins have subsequently been found near other Caribbean islands, including what appears to be an entire city submerged off the coast of Haiti, and still another at the bottom of a lake. What appears to be an underwater road (or perhaps a series of plazas or foundations) was discovered in 1968 off north Bimini beneath several fathoms of water. From these numerous findings, it would appear that par of the continental shelf of the Atlantic and Caribbean was once dry land, sunk or flooded during a period when man was already civilized".

Not everyone accepts these underwater features as being of man-made origin. The so-called "Bimini road" is dismissed by skeptics as nothing more than beach rock that just happens to have produced an unusual effect. Berlitz and Dr. Manson Valentine, the American archaeologist and oceanographer who discovered the "road", do not agree.

"It should be pointed out." writes Berlitz, "that beach rock does not form great blocks which fit together in a pattern, that haphazardly splitting rock does not make 90- degree turns, nor does it normally have regularly laid-out passageways running between sections of it. Nor, above all, are 'natural' beach rocks, lying on the ocean floor, likely to be found supported by stone pillars precisely placed beneath them!"

Other sightings made off Bimini, at distances up to 100 miles from the shore, include what appear to be vertical walls, a great arch, and pyramids or bases for pyramids under the sea. some 10 miles north of Andros, another island in the Bahamas, pilots have photographed formations on the seabed that look like great circles of standing stones, reminiscent of Stonehenge. Off the coasts of eastern Yucatan and British Honduras seemingly man-made roads stretch far out to sea, and off Venezuela a 100-mile 'wall' runs along the ocean bottom. However, geologists have declared many of these to be natural features, and deem the Venezuelan wall "too big to be considered man-made". According to Berlitz, the Russians have explored an underwater building complex covering over 10 acres of the sea floor north of Cuba, and the French bathyscape Archimede has reported sighting flights of steps carved in the steep continental shelf off northern Puerto Rico.

Do these intriguing finds indicate that Atlantis was, after all, in the Atlantic? it seems we must keep an open mind until they have been investigated more thoroughly. Meanwhile, let us take a fresh look at the Atlantic Ocean to see if the theory of continental drift might still leave room for a missing continent there. When a computer was used to reassemble the continental jigsaw, the fit across the Atlantic was found, with some adjustment, to be fairly satisfactory. But that picture does not take account of a fascinating underwater feature known as the mid-Atlantic Ridge. This mountainous ridge, nearly two miles high and hundreds of miles wide, runs in an S-curve down the Atlantic midway between the Americas and Africa and Europe, following the contours of those continents and marking its course above water with a number of islands, such as the Azores, Ascension Island, and Tristan da Cunha.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2007, 08:53:51 am »



As early as 1883 Ignatius Donnelly suggested that the mid-Atlantic Ridge was a remnant of Atlantis. But most modern geologists and oceanographers consider that, far from being the relic of a continent that sank beneath the sea, the ridge was forced upward from the ocean floor, probably by volcanic activity. One theory is that as the continents drifted apart they produce a huge fault line that is a center of earthquake and produce a huge fault line that is a center of earthquake and volcanic action. Some of the earth's molten center has erupted through this crack and built up into a ridge, even rising above the waves in several places. However, there is evidence that this explanation may have to reviewed before too long.

 

A diver taking part in A.R.E.s Poseidia 75 expedition to Bimini in the Bahamas examines an encrusted marble column found about a mile south of the Bimini Road. In 1968, what appeared to be a vast underwater road was discovered off Bimini, and the next year the columns, of which this is one, were found.
 

Seabed cores taken from the mid-Atlantic Ridge in 1957 brought up freshwater plants from a depth of two miles. And in one of the deep valleys, known as Romanche, sands have been found that appear to have been formed by weathering when that part of the ridge was above water level. In a 1969 a Duke University research expedition dredged 50 sites along an underwater ridge running from Venezuela to the Virgin Islands, and brought up granitic rocks, which are normally found only on continents. Commenting on this discovery, Dr. Bruce Heezen of the Lamont Geological Observatory said:

"Up to now, geologists generally believed that light granitic or acid igneous rocks are confined to the continents and that the crust of the earth beneath the sea is composed of heavier, dark-colored basaltic rock... Thus, the occurrence of light-colored granitic rocks may support an old theory that a continent formerly existed in the region of the eastern Caribbean and that these rocks may represent the core of a subsided, lost continent."

A recent report on the nature of the Atlantic seabed appears to confirm that there is at least part of a former continent lying beneath the ocean. Under the heading "Concrete Evidence for Atlantis?" the British Journal New Scientist of June 5, 1975 reported, "Although they make no such fanciful claim from their results as to have discovered the mythical mid-Atlantic landmass, an international group of oceanographers has now convincingly confirmed preliminary findings that a sunken block of continent lies in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. The discovery comes from analyzing dredge samples taken along the line of the Vema offset fault, a long east-west fracture zone lying between Africa and South America close to latitude 11º "N".

 

The report goes on to state that in 1971 two researchers from the University of Miami recovered some shallow-water limestone fragments from deep water in the area. Minerals in the limestone indicated that they came from a nearby source of granite that was unlikely to occur on the ocean floor. More exhaustive analysis of the dredge samples revealed that the limestones included traces of shallow-water fossils, implying formation in very shallow water indeed, a view confirmed by the ratios of oxygen and carbon isotopes found in the fragments. One piece of limestone was pitted and showed evidence of tidal action.

The researchers believe that the limestone dates from the Mesozoic era (between 70 and 220 million years ago) and forms a cap "on a residual continental block left behind as the Atlantic spread out into an ocean." the New Scientist observes that

"The granitic minerals could thus have come from the bordering continents while the ocean was still in it infancy. Vertical movements made by the block appear to have raised it above sea level at some period during it's history.

It would therefore seem that there is a lost continent in the Atlantic, but unfortunately for Atlantists, it evidently disappeared long before man appeared on earth. Most scientist remain convinced that there is no likelihood of finding the Atlantis described by Plato in the area of the mid-Atlantic Ridge. As L. Sprague de Camp comments in his Lost Continents, nearly all of the ridge, except for the small and mountainous Azores region, is under two or three miles of water, "and there is no known way to get a large island down to that depth in anything like the 10,000 years required to fit in with Plato's date for the sinking of Atlantis." He also points to a report published in 1967 by Dr. Maurice Ewing of Columbia University, who announced that "after 13 years of exploring the mid-Atlantic Ridge, he had "found no trace of sunken cities."

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2007, 08:54:33 am »


 
A diver taking part in A.R.E.s Poseidia 75 expedition to Bimini in the Bahamas examines an encrusted marble column found about a mile south of the Bimini Road. In 1968, what appeared to be a vast underwater road was discovered off Bimini, and the next year the columns, of which this is one, were found.


Atlantists reply that Dr. Ewing could have been looking in the wrong places, or perhaps too close to the center of the destructive forces that plunged Atlantis into the ocean. Some Atlantists have suggested that the original Atlantic landmass broke up into a least two parts, one of which sank long after the other. Perhaps Plato's Atlantis was a remnant of the continent that oceanographers now appear to have detected in the Atlantic, and perhaps it was not submerged until very much more recent times. The bed of the Atlantic is, after all, an unstable are and one that has given birth to numerous islands, then swallowed them up again. In 1811, for example, volcanic activity in the Azores resulted in the emergence of a new island called Sammrina, which shortly sank back again into the sea. In our own time, the island of Surtsey, 20 miles southwest of Iceland, has slowly risen from the ocean. Surtsey was formed during a continuous underwater eruption between 1963 and 1966.

If Atlantis did exist in the Atlantic above the great fault line that runs between the present continents, it would certainly have been plagued by earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Is it mere coincidence that Plato should have situated his lost continent in an ocean that does apparently contain such a continent, and in an area subject to the very kind of catastrophe he describes? Atlantists think not.

 

NORTHERN HEMISPHERE
 


SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE
 

On the other hand, there are some Atlantists who believe that the destruction of Atlantis was brought about not by geological events but by a man-made disaster, such as a nuclear explosion. According to the Cayce readings, the Atlanteans achieved an astonishingly high level of technology before the continent sank, around 10,000 B.C. They invented the laser, aircraft, television, death rays, atomic energy, and cybernetic control of human beings, and it was the misuse of the tremendously powerful natural forces they had developed that caused their destruction.

Cayce is best-known for his apparent ability to diagnose illness even in people whom he had never met. This ability was tested by a group of physicians from Hopkinsville and Bowling Green, Kentucky. They discovered that when Cayce was in a state of trance, it was sufficient to give him the name and address of a patient for him to supply a wealth of information about that person, often drawing attention to medical conditions of which the physicians were then unaware, but that subsequent tests on the patient proved to be correct.

 

This work alone would appear to justify the description of Cayce as America's most talented psychic. And if one aspect of his clairvoyant powers could prove so successful, it seems reasonable to give a fair hearing to other psychic statements he made, however, fantastic.

 

Cayce's sons, who help run the organization set up to study his work, admit that their life would be far simpler if Edgar Cayce had never mentioned Atlantis. Hugh Lynn Cayce comments:

"It would be very easy to present a very tight evidential picture of Edgar Cayce's psychic ability and the helpfulness of his readings if we selected only those which are confirmed and completely validated. This would not be fair in total, overall evaluation of his life's work. My brother and I know that Edgar Cayce did not read Plato's material on Atlantis, or books on Atlantis, and that he, so far as we know, had absolutely no knowledge of this subject. If his unconscious fabricated this material or wove it together from existing legends and stories in print or the minds of persons dealing with the Atlantis theory."

Edgar Evans Cayce makes the comment that,

"unless proof of the existence of Atlantis is one day discovered, Edgar Cayce is in a very unenviable position. On the other hand, if he proves accurate on this score he may become as famous an archaeologist or historian as he was a medical clairvoyant."

If, as his sons and thousands of followers believe, Edgar Cayce's readings were supernormal and not the product of reading the works of others, it is certainly an intriguing case. There are, for example, some fascinating similarities between Cayce's descriptions of Atlantis and those of occultists such as Madame Blavatsky, Rudolf Steiner, and W. Scott-Elliott, including references to the Atlanteans telepathic and other supernormal powers, their advanced technology, their moral disintegration, and the civil strife and misuse of their powers that finally caused their demise. Cayce's readings also mention Lemuria, or Mu. Either Cayce was psychically readings the works of these earlier writers, or he - the they - really were 'tuning in' to the past.

Whatever the result of future investigations around the splendid temples and palaces of Crete, or in the depths of the Thera basin, there will still be people who continue to look for convincing case for the identification of Plato's Atlantis with the Minoan civilization of the Aegean, but their opponents argue that the existence of such a civilization - however striking it similarities with Atlantis - does not preclude the existence of an even great civilization in the Atlantic. The finds in the Bahamas remain to be verified, and the discovery of what appears to be a submerged continent in the Atlantic adds a new dimension to the Atlantis mystery.

Whatever prompted Plato to write about Atlantis, he could never have dreamed that he would start a worldwide quest for the lost continent. Perhaps, as his pupil Aristotle hinted, "he who invented it, also destroyed it." Yet through a fortuitous accident - or a canny understanding of the human spirit - Plato hit upon a story that has struck a responsive chord in people's minds and hearts down the centuries. Whether his story was fact or fiction, a distorted version of real events or a fable that just happened to tie in with reality, it has managed to enchant, baffle, and challenge mankind for over 2000 years.

The persistence of the Atlantis legend is almost as intriguing as the lost continent itself. What is it that keeps the Atlantis debate alive? Is it a longing for reassurance that men and women once knew the secret of happiness, and really did inhabit a Garden of Eden? Is it the thrill of the search - the hope of finding a master key to unlock the secrets of the past? Or is it simply man's thirst for mystery itself - for something grand and inexplicable, larger than himself? Certainly popular interest in the mystical side of Atlantis is always most intense when the life of the spirit is in the greatest disarray - during the latter half of the 19th Century, in the aftermath of Darwin's bombshell, for example, and during our own time.

The day may yet come when the key is found and the mystery of Atlantis is solved once and for all. The solution may be simple or complex. It could be sensational or disappointingly dull. We may already suspect the answer, or it may surprise us. Either way, it would rob the world of one of its most fascinating enigmas. Atlantis has intrigued and inspired people for a very long time. Perhaps, for the time being, we should be glad that the answer has not yet been found, and that Plato's lost continent remains just beyond our grasp.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2007, 08:55:20 am »


The Bimini Road is a highly contested phenomenon. To some, it is merely a natural underwater stone formation near North Bimini island, discovered in 1968. To others, the Bimini Road is an ancient road, or perhaps a collapsed wall of the civilization of Atlantis.

Supporters of the Atlantis theory note that the stone formation is far too unusual to be naturally formed. Supporters also quote the famous American psychic Edgar Cayce who predicted the discovery of the Bimini Road in 1938. Said Cayce, "A portion of the temples may yet be discovered under the slime of ages and sea water near Bimini... Expect it in '68 or '69 - not so far away."

In his 2002 book 1421: The Year China Discovered The World, author Gavin Menzies proposed that the road is a submerged emergency drydock used by a Chinese Imperial fleet exploring the Caribbean between 1421 and 1423. Menzies hypothesizes that the ships were caught in a storm and that to commence repairs, the fleet had to create an ad hoc drydock using their large, rectangular ballast stones. Since sea levels were approximately six feet lower six centuries ago, Menzies believes that the now submerged Bimini Road stones were once on the shore of North Bimini Island.

Recent discoveries seem to support Gavin Menzies' theory of the road being an Imperial Chinese drydock.

Sci-Fi's "Declassified: Quest for Atlantis: Startling New Secrets" aired July 2006. The show followed several different Atlantis groups, one of which focused on the Bimini Road. Dr. Greg Little led one team of researchers on a dive to recover what he believes are Atlantean-era objects at the famed 'Bimini Road' off the coast of Bimini Island. However, what they found may not be from Atlantis, but also makes it suggestive that the road could possibly be derived of another ancient civilization.

Dr. Little and his team made a discovery that would baffle some skeptics, an entire second layer of square-cut rocks with similar dimensions beneath the stones Bimini Road.

Most geologists have long claimed that the Bimini Road is a natural occurrence, which would mean that if you lifted the rocks, only sand and water bed should be beneath the Bimini stones. Greg Little's discovery suggests the Bimini Road may actually be part of an entire wall or water dock of some sort.

Little also discovered a series of heart-shaped rocks, all with un-natural holes bore in their centers, some with multiple holes. Little believed that these were most likely used for anchors of some sort, and the Bimini Road may have been a type of docking wall. While the Bimini Road is believed by some to be associated with Atlantis, Dr. Little's discovery may end up resulting in conclusions that suggest the road is from a different civilization.

However, the rocks and evidence gathered from his study are still being studied and dated, still leaving some debate open over the origin of the Bimini Road. In another quest not associated with the Bimini Road but with Atlantis, American explorer Robert Sarmast continues funded research near the Straits of Gibraltar.

In 2002 he discovered an underwater formation fifty miles off the coast of Cyprus while using side scan sonar, and based on his own extensive research of Plato's Atlantis. The submerged island bears a striking resemblance to that of Plato's description of Atlantis and is still being studied.

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Dr. Greg Little led a team of researchers on a dive to recover what he believes are Atlantean-era objects at the famed 'Bimini Road' off the coast of Bimini Island. His team included a researcher from the A.R.E. (Edgar Cayce) center in Virginia Beach. Dr. Little believes there was once an unknown maritime culture in the area. Who these ancient mariners were and where they came from remains a mystery. He theorizes that these sailors had transatlantic range, coming from the Canary Islands to the Bahamas, perhaps to trade. Dr. Little believes the artifacts uncovered in his expedition are evidence of this extensive maritime culture in the pre-Columbian Bahamas.
Edgar Cayce predicted that Atlantis would rise again in 1969. In that time frame the Bimini Road was discovered in the Atlantic Ocean.

Most of Edgar Cayce's life readings for his clients were assigned to past lives from 'twelve' main periods including Atlantis, ancient Egypt at the time of "Ra Ta" (Z as Thoth and Ra), ancient Persia (Z as Zarathrustra/Zoroaster), Palestine at the time of Christ (Z as Jesus), and colonial America ... as we follow the path of the Masonic Program in its final phases in all parallel realities.
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 Above: IKONOS Satellite image of Bimini showing key areas including Cayce's gold vein.
 
 
   

   
Above: Possible wedge stone at Cay Sal
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2007, 12:16:11 pm »


Desiree-

Did you see the MSNBC Special QUEST FOR ATLANTIS on Wed. Jan. 31/07?

It was a two-hour program (9-11PM) and most of it was about Robert
Samarst (sp?) and our friend Dr. Little' s latest expedition.  I dared to assume
that this is the one that took place last summer (06), whose report you and
I have been waiting for.

It was quite exciting and Dr. Little had John Van Auken with him, from the ARE
(Cayce's Foundation - Association for Research and Enlightenment).

I tried to find a transcript at MSNBC the next day, but had no luck.  I haven't
checked since.  If I find it, I will let you know and you could transpose parts
of it here.  (You know how unskilled I am at 'tech-stuff'.....)

Great work, girl!

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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2007, 10:19:30 pm »

I saw it, Bianca, but more telling was the recent "Digging for the Truth" special starring Josh Bernstein.  Bimini didn't come across quite as well in that one!
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2007, 10:58:19 am »


Hi, Brooke:

Let me first tell you how happy I am to be here at AO.  Thank you!


I saw both programs and I was very disappointed in "Digging for the
truth".  I thought that too much time was spent on the Mediterranean
expedition and the rehashing of old 'stuff' covered by many other
specials.  It may have been more effective if it had stressed the simi-
larities between Thera and Crete.  I believe Thera was a colony of
the latter and that it, in turn was a colony of Atlantis.  The level of
high civilization excavated at both sites is found nowhere else in the
Mediterranean basin - so far.

Furthermore, if Atlantis DID go to war with Athens, as many sources
attest, it makes sense that they would have had to have a BASE some-
where in the Mediterranean Sea from where they could initiate an
attack - it would take forever to sail through the Pillars of Hercules to
get to Greece!  Crete and/or Thera are perfectly positioned geogra-
phically to do that.

I was especially impressed by Greg Little's find of the triangular, wedge
shaped stones under the larger ones to level the 'road'.  Natural forma
tions do not do that.  Also the 'anchors' that he found.  Water-eroded
stones have mainly holes in the middle, not at the top.  I have person-
ally found such stones on the shores of the Adriatic Sea and I am sure
others have also, especially where rivers or streams empty into larger
bodies of water.  The water-wear marks are evident even to a 'know-
nothing' like myself.

Greg Little is too smart to put 'the horse before the cart'.  He is ostensi-
bly trying to find relics of human habitation in the Bimini-Cay Sal area
that ties back to Mediterranean civilizations.  If he can do that, the rest
will follow.  The 'anchors' show rope wear and if radio carbon on some
of them prove them to be the age of Atlantis, so much the better.

That will tie in with the findings, a few years ago, that some mummies
contained traces of ****.  **** grew only on this continent.  And
if these two facts can be proven, then circumnavigation was a reality
in antiquity.

I am too old to hope that "Atlantis is rising" in my lifetime.  If Greg Little
can find proof of circumnavigation  at/or about the time of Atlantis, it
will be good enough for me.  That great continent/civilization will not be
 a figment of my imagination any more!

Love and Peace to you, dear friend,
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2007, 04:14:11 pm »

Hi Bianca,

We are glad to have you here!

I think that the Digging for the Truth special was a bit unfair to Bimini, but I would like to hear the response from some of the A.R.E. people as to what was presented, specifically the stone slabs on the shore of Bimini, which were similar (but not the same) as the Bimini Road.  I say "similar" because the shore of Bimini as what seems to be cut stones, whereas the Bimini Road is comprised of clear stone blocks, most of which are much bigger than the ones on shore.  I don't know for a fact if Bimin is artificial or natural, I'd say we need more information.

Geologist Robert Schoch also disqualified the Yonagumi structures on the same basis.

I'm no geologist, but I think I need a little more convinicing that the holes can be made in the stone slabs that Greg Little suggseted were anchors simply by water rushing against it.

I think that I heard Greg Little say in a past post that he doesn't believe that Bimini is related to Atlantis because it it is too recent.  You're right, he is looking for a Mediterranean based culture that maybe had a base out in Bimini. The problem with that is that we should see evidence of this other culture out there (the remains of a civilization that should be near the Bimini Road), and, afar as I know, there isn't any.

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2007, 10:38:52 pm »

Thanks, Bianca!  Of all the specials I have seen Greg in, that one came off the best.

He was in a NG special a couple of years ago where they seemed to make a point to make him look bad.  The trouble with documentaries is that they can cut them anyway they want to make whatever point they want to make.  That's why he no longer appears on them.

About the stone anchors, the pix I have seen of the ones Greg found do resemble the type you would find in the Mediterranean by the Phoenicians.  Unfortunately, I couldn't find any on the web the other day when I searched to make comparisons.
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