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« on: January 14, 2009, 11:11:13 am »

BIN LADEN CHALLENGES OBAMA

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2009, 11:12:52 am »


Osama Bin Laden Challenges Obama In Tape
KEATH | January 14, 2009 10:18 AM EST | 




This is an undated file photo of al Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in Afghanistan. Bin Laden has issued a new audiotape urging Muslims to launch a jihad, or holy war, to stop the Israeli offensive in Gaza. The authenticity of the tape cannot be independently confirmed. (AP Photo)


CAIRO, Egypt — Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel and condemned Arab governments as allies of the Jewish state in a new message aimed at harnessing anger in the Mideast over the Gaza offensive.

Bin Laden spoke in an audiotape posted Wednesday on Islamic militant Web sites where al-Qaida usually issues its messages. It was his first tape since May and came nearly three weeks after Israel started its campaign against Gaza's militant Hamas rulers.

The al-Qaida leader also vowed that the terror network would open "new fronts" against the United States and its allies beyond Iraq and Afghanistan. He said President-elect Barack Obama has received a "heavy inheritance" from George W. Bush _ two wars and "the collapse of the economy," which he said will render the United States unable to sustain a long fight against the mujahedeen, or holy warriors.

"There is only one strong way to bring the return of Al-Aqsa and Palestine, and that is jihad in the path of God," bin Laden said in the 22-minute audiotape, referring to the revered Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. "The duty is to urge people to jihad and to enlist the youth into jihad brigades."

"Islamic nation, you are capable of defeating the Zionist entity with your popular capabilities and your great hidden strength _ without the support of (Arab) leaders and despite the fact that most of (the leaders) stand in the barracks of the Crusader-Zionist alliance," bin Laden said.

The authenticity of the tape could not be independently confirmed, but the voice resembled that of bin Laden in previous messages.

The tape, entitled "a call for jihad to stop the aggression on Gaza," was played over a still picture of bin Laden and the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem's Old City, one of Islam's holiest sites. But there were no English subtitles and flashy production graphics that usually accompany such messages.

That suggested the message had been hastily put together and issued to best exploit anger in the region over the Gaza offensive, which Palestinian medical officials say has killed more than 940 Palestinians, half of them civilians. Israel said the offensive aims to halt rocket fire from Gaza against Israeli towns.

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Bin Laden accused Arab leaders of "avoiding their responsibility" to liberate Palestine.

"If you are not convinced to fight, then open the way to those who are convinced," he said.

Bin Laden and his lieutenants frequently use the Palestinian issue to try to rally support for al-Qaida and often call for holy war to free Jerusalem. But there has been little sign that the terror group has carried out attacks in Israel. Bin Laden made no direct reference to Hamas, which seized power in Gaza in 2007. Al-Qaida leaders have frequently criticized the Palestinian militant group for participating in elections and failing to seriously pursue jihad against Israel.

The al-Qaida leader also said the world economic crisis was a sign that the United States' power was falling apart, boasting that "the Islamic nation's jihad is one of the main causes of these destructive results for our enemies."

Pointing to wars in Afghanistan and Iraq since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, bin Laden said al-Qaida was prepared to fight "for seven more years, and seven more after that, then seven more."

"We are on the way to opening new fronts," he said, urging Muslims to "join hands with the mujahedeen to continue the jihad against the enemy, to continue bleeding them on these two fronts and on the others that are open to you."

"The question is, can America continue the war against us for several more decades? The reports and signs show us otherwise," he said. He said Bush had left his successor "with a heavy inheritance," forcing Obama to choose between withdrawing from the wars or continuing.

"If he withdraws from the war, it is a military defeat. If he continues, he drowns in economic crisis," bin Laden said.

It was the first time bin Laden have spoken of Obama, though he did not mention him by name. Bin Laden's top deputy Ayman al-Zawahri has previously spoken against Obama, warning Muslims he will not bring major change in U.S. policies.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2009, 12:27:09 pm »

Give me a break... Bin Laden is dead and all these recent tapes are feds dressed up and have been proven fakes.

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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2009, 01:17:52 pm »

But wait Volitzer.. Didn't you post something that was on You Tube that Obama was Bin Laden? SO if your right then he isn't dead. You flip-flop so much I'm going to start calling you pancakeman.
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2009, 11:48:44 pm »

The real Osama - Dead !!!

Obama disguised as Osama to fake a video(s) - plausible.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2009, 11:49:49 pm »

They either hired another stooge or Obama taped the "CHALLENGE" earlier.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2009, 10:16:30 am »

The real Osama - Dead !!!

Obama disguised as Osama to fake a video(s) - plausible.

Oh Pancakeman that is a very convenient excuse.  Try harder.  I'm sure you can do it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2009, 12:24:51 pm »

The real Osama - Dead !!!

Obama disguised as Osama to fake a video(s) - plausible.

Oh Pancakeman that is a very convenient excuse.  Try harder.  I'm sure you can do it.

Okay why don't you volunteer for military service then and do your part to serve the Obama Administration.

You really think Osama directed the Twin-Towers collapse from a cave in Afghanistan ?  What is your IQ between 40-70 ?
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2009, 04:12:08 pm »

I did do my part in the military thank you very much. And it would take a rocket scientist to plan a hijacking and fly 2 plans into the WTC buildings.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 02:05:00 am »

I did do my part in the military thank you very much. And it would take a rocket scientist to plan a hijacking and fly 2 plans into the WTC buildings.

No just a bunch of Bilderbergers and their minions they selected for political office to allow it to happen.

Look if terrorists were really behind 9/11 they would have waited until noon or afternoon when the Twin Towers were at their fullest capacity.  15 minutes before 9 am business day in America is hardly the best time for maximum kill.

Cheney directed the attack on the Pentagon himself.

What did you do in the military ?  Mess sergeant.   Grin

Ever watch the movie Shooter ?
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2009, 02:12:39 am »

I did do my part in the military thank you very much. And it would take a rocket scientist to plan a hijacking and fly 2 plans into the WTC buildings.

Now that your "man" is in why not re-enlist and give al-CIAda what for ?

Cuz you know deep down Bin Laden is dead, those making the tapes are Federal actors, the CIA runs al-Queda, al-Queda is the Military Industrial Complex's scape-goat to bring in martial-law here while keeping the dumb Americans distracted while they train foreign mercenaries for their North American Union plan.

Please tell me you'll ve on the side of America when the shooting starts ?

Please tell me you won't join the mindless Obamanoids and the foreign mercenaries destroy the USA ?

Please tell me you remember your oath to uphold the US Constitution ?

If you did then why are you supporting Obama who is Constitutionally illegitimate ?

The rest of the military supported Ron Paul what's your excuse ?
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2009, 02:53:14 am »

Actually, Barack Obama led in contributions from the troops, Ron Paul came in a distant second:

Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 to Obama
Published by Luke Rosiak on August 14, 2008 9:52 AM | Permalink | Comments (31)
During World War II, soldiers crouching in foxholes penned letters assuring their sweethearts that they'd be home soon. Now, between firefights in the Iraqi desert, some infantrymen have been sending a different kind of mail stateside: two or three hundred dollars -- or whatever they can spare -- towards a presidential election that could very well determine just how soon they come home.

 

According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times McCain's haul.

 

Despite McCain's status as a decorated veteran and a historically Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services overall -- whether stationed overseas or at home -- are also favoring Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin. Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.

 

Contributions from U.S. Troops Deployed Abroad Recipient Total Number
Obama, Barack $60,642 134
Paul, Ron $45,512 99
McCain, John $10,665 26
Huckabee, Mike $7,950 10
Thompson, Fred $6,350 7
Romney, Mitt $5,550 10
Clinton, Hillary $3,240 6
With the latest campaign finance filings, detailing June fundraising, McCain has overtaken Paul among all military donors, though Paul still leads with contributors listing an overseas address. Financial support from military personnel for anti-war candidates Obama and Paul is a trend that the Center for Responsive Politics first observed last September.

 

Individuals in the Air Force, Army, Navy and Marine Corps have all leaned Republican this cycle, but the only branch in which that ideology has carried over to the presidential race is the Marine Corps, where McCain leads Obama by about $4,000. In each of the other branches -- including the Navy, in which McCain served when he was taken prisoner during the Vietnam War -- Obama leads by significant margins.

 

"That's shocking. The academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean slightly Republican and some who say it's about equal, but no one would point to six-to-one" in Democrats' favor, said Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of California who studies the military. "That represents a tremendous shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans."

 

In 2000, Republican George W. Bush outraised Democrat Al Gore among military personnel almost 2 to 1. In 2004, with the Iraq war underway, John Kerry closed the gap with President Bush, but Bush still raised $1.50 from the military for every $1 his Democratic opponent collected.

 

A former West Point professor, Jason Dempsey, noted that the small set of contributions from deployed troops at this point in 2008 -- just 323 donations -- should not be extrapolated to form conclusions about military personnel overall. "If, on a bad day, a guy gets that letter that says [his tour has been extended] from 12 to 15 months, that could spur a quick donation and expression of anger," he said. "Donating helps members of the military express their political views privately."

 

Seeing political activity of any sort among soldiers is notable, Dempsey added. "It's hard to describe how apolitical a lot of the enlisted ranks are. He's worried about other things than following the news."

 

Obama, who opposed the war in Iraq but was not in the Senate when it was authorized, has said that as president, he would withdraw most troops from Iraq within about 16 months. McCain, the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee and a staunch proponent of the Iraq war, has resisted setting a timeline for withdrawal. 

 

CRP's totals based on employer are limited to donors contributing more than $200, since information is not provided to the Federal Election Commission for smaller contributions. So these figures are likely to disproportionately represent the mood of officers, who have more disposable income to spend on politics than do the lower ranks. But because young people tend to be more liberal than their elders, the total dollar figures could lean even more in Obama's favor.

 

"One possibly mundane explanation (for the tilt in contributions from deployed soldiers) is that the Obama campaign has just been so much savvier with web-based donors. It may be a logistical question," Belkin pointed out.

 

Army Specialist Jay Navas contributed $250 while deployed in Iraq, but it wasn't over the Internet. "It took some effort to get that check. I had my mom send me my checkbook and I walked to the post office in Camp Liberty in Baghdad with an envelope addressed to Barack Obama in Chicago, Illinois," he said. "He was right on Iraq long when others were jumping into the sea like lemmings, and that's hard to do. We're soldiers and we respect courage."

 

Only the Coast Guard prefers Democrats across the board, with 78 percent of employees' total federal contributions going to members of that party, and Obama beating McCain $7,795 to $250. Navas anecdotally confirmed that soldiers are often conservative but that many are making an exception in the presidential race. "Most of my friends are conservative Republicans and they say, 'I'm voting for Barack.' McCain does not have a lock on the military vote, that's for sure," he said. "We'll complete our duty -- I'm deploying next year -- because it's a commitment I made to the nation, not to a president. But we all know that Iraq was a big mistake."

 

The decisions of the U.S. government affect Navas more than most Americans, he said.

 

"What happens politically in America affects us immediately," he said. "As soon as the surge was ordered, my tour was extended, just by a pronouncement from the president. For very few Americans can the president say something and your lives are changed."

Contributions from All Military Personnel Recipient Total Number
Obama, Barack $335,536 859
McCain, John $280,513 558
Paul, Ron $232,411 537
Clinton, Hillary $167,050 376
Republican National Cmte $135,902 219
Huckabee, Mike $66,751 127
Thompson, Fred $46,400 93
Romney, Mitt $43,307 96
Giuliani, Rudolph W $22,050 47
National Republican Senatorial Cmte $21,885 26
DNC Services Corp $16,873 53
Based on contributions made during the 2008 election cycle through June 30, 2008

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/troops-deployed-abroad-give-61.html
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2009, 02:49:30 pm »

Obama only took on the lead when Ron Paul dropped out.

Too bad Chuck Baldwin's name didn't get widespread distribution over in the middle-east.  Now the troops can wait for Obama to betray them.
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