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Ever since Ignatius Donnelly's book, Atlantis, the Antidiluvian World came out in the 1880's, the Azores have been, without exception, perhaps the most popular location to be a remnant of Atlantis. And yet, apart from a 1999 documentary hosted by Richard Crenna, "In Search of Atlantis, the Lost Continent" (where it appears only briefly), it is left out as a location to be focused on.
The exception is the work of Christian O'Brien, who visited the Azores in 1971 and did indeed uncover a sunken landmass there, about the size of Spain.
This thread is dedicated to Chrisitian O'Brien, who died in 2001, may his work live on and inspire one of us to finish it.
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First, the flora and fauna of the Azores, (courtesy of Antonio Pedroso), for those unfamiliar with it:
http://www.ewpnet.com/azores/flora.htm
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Furnas Botanical Gardens
Lagoa do Capitao, Pico
Furnas and Himalayan Ginger
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Azores History
Plato's research suggested to him that Atlantis was a land of seafarers who fought wars against Mediterranean peoples and came from beyond the Pillars of Hercules. Atlantis was supposed to be a great island with a giant natural harbour and city of concentric circles. The land sank in about 9,400 BC leaving only scattered islands.
The Azores could be the remnants of the lost world of Atlantis. The beautifully located town of Sete Cidades on Sao Miguel island is named after the seven cities of Atlantis. Further credence is added to this theory from more recent history, in 1811 a new volcanic island was formed and claimed by the British. It was named Sabrina after the ship commanded by Captain Tillard. However the British presence in the Azores was short-lived as the island soon thereafter vanished back under the waves.
For most of recent history the islands have been controlled by the Portuguese and only recently have they gained a degree of autonomy. Though varied they are all basically volcanic in character. Volcanoes, craters, some with beautiful lakes, hot springs and high cliffs abound. The maritime climate combined with rich volcanic soils results in a year-round green carpet of forests and meadows. Heathers, hydrangeas, Himalayan ginger and a wide variety of subtropical and some tropical plants cover the hillsides.
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GEOLOOGY OF THE AZORES
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The Azores are entirely of volcanic origin. They have been created by outpourings of lava from the ocean floor. The high level of activity in the area is a result of three major tectonic plates meeting here. The North American Plate to the northwest of the Azores is gradually drifting west, the Euroasian Plate to the northeast is drifting east and south and finally the African Plate is drifting east and north. The small Azores Microplate, which is drifting westwards, further complicates the picture. Where the plates pull apart (diverge) lava outpourings have created mid-oceanic ridges, the highest parts of these rise out of the sea to create volcanic islands. The mid-Atlantic ridge on which the Azores lie extends for 16,000 km. and islands along its length include Iceland.
The oldest of the islands, Santa Maria, was formed some 7 million years ago and then sank and reappeared. As a result it is the only island to have appreciable marine fossils in its rocks. The youngest island is Pico. it was mainly formed some 300 thousand years ago. There was an even younger island - Sabrina - not far off from Sao Miguel that appeared in 1811 and was claimed by the British but sadly it vanished under the oceans just a few months later.
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And now for the work of Christian O'Brien, one of the most under-rated Atlantis researchers of our time:
A Reconstruction of the Main Island of Plato's Atlantis - Christian O'Brien - 18th February 1985 - Widdington - Essex - England
INTRODUCTION
Christian O'Brien in Chapter 18 of The Shining Ones features the basic historical and geological evidence which identifies the Azores as the site of the Island of Atlantis. In an outstanding career as exploration geologist he is no stranger to successfully challenging established perceptions and raises the key issue of the deep crustal rifting associated with such flood basalt constructions.
He has produced the survey of the Island, shown within the attached documents taken from Admiralty Charts, which have now been superseded by the more accurate Institute of Oceanographic Sciences map also shown. Further detailed hydrographic input is required in order to present a even clearer picture to allow further studies and the siting for new sediment cores in un-disturbed areas.
The technology needed to prove or disprove the Atlantis issue is now available. Science has reached the point of being able to understand both the creation of' such large structures and the subsequent catastrophic movements in the earths crust, which have destroyed them. Finding and dating the remains of fresh water life at depths of up to 4000 metres, finding coral, sandy beaches and volcanic material below sea level and identifying former river valleys is within reach and we look forward to providing further news on this subject later in the year.
So far this century there has been a confirmed report of a one mile rise in the floor of the ocean 576 miles north of Azores when a trans-atlantic cable broke. Dr David F. Zhirov in 1970 reported sand beaches and coral at a depths of 2 miles south of the Azores. Confirmed evidence exists that sections of the Mid-Atlantic ridge have been above sea level in the past and fresh water diatoms have been found 2 miles down in the Azores area dated 10,000 to 12,000 BC.
Volcanic material described as un-dissolved tachylite was found on Telegraph Bank 500 miles north of Azores, indicating that it had been laid down above sea level at some time between 50,000 BC and 10,000 BC. Sediment core analysis at locations off the coast of Africa have proved a 2 mile sinkage of volcanic island structures similar to those of the Azores.
The more detailed evidence provided by the latest underwater surveys will assist in identify the former glacial sea level, and locating the river canyons of' a large island where rivers Joined the sea before sea levels rose, thus matching the river canyon features of the American, European and African continental shelves.
Open minds are required to concentrate current resources on the many disciplines required to re-create or resolve this mystery which has immense importance to our understanding of human origins and human diffusion. In particular, migrations from Africa to the America's from 60,000 BC.
Important knowledge has been gathered at other sites on flood basalt formations, collapsed volcanic cones, plate tectonics, deep crustal rifting together with the rebound by up to 1km of the thick and old earths crust freed from the weight of glacial ice and the compensatory sinkage of perhaps up to 4km In the fragile young and thin oceananic crustal areas adjacent to major active fault zones.
The Institute of Oceanographic Sciences map, contoured in metres, shows the islands of the Azores as the volcanic peaks of the worlds greatest Mountain range. The area is bounded on the west by the Mid-Atlantic Ridge rift valley fault, to the north by the Kurchatov Fracture Zone, on the east by deep ocean, and on the whole southern flank by the massive and deep East Azores Fracture Zone. Here we can see the three major tectonic plates which converge in this fragile crustal area, making it perhaps the most unstable structure on the planet.
There is no doubt that world sea levels have risen on average some 400 feet since the maximum influence of the Ice Age, although the identification of shore lines at this date around 16,500 BC must be considered in the light of much greater compensatory movements in the earths crust and other factors. Certainly a large island at this latitude would have been a suitable glacial refuge for plants, animals and man, during a highly inhospitable, cold and extremely dry climatic phase with so much of the earths moisture locked tip within Ice sheets.
Sea level rises may have been relatively stable in the area of Atlantis until two accelerated sea rises, due to massive melt water discharges, from land/ice locked lakes around 12,000 BC (50-40cm per annum) and 9,300 BC (30-20 mm per annum). A third and final accelerated rise took occured between 6,000 and 5,500 BC as result of further melt water discharges. The process of' sea level rise took place as the earth warmed to the highest levels recorded for over 120,000 years, peaking before 2350 BC by some 3°C higher than current levels.
The observational evidence of the geological structure of the Azores Islands, above and below current sea level, does provide evidence of river systems, which must have been created by a much larger land area. However not enough convincing evidence exists because of substantial past volcanic activity, subsidence and land slippage within the area. This creates problems in searching both for ancient remains or biological evidence that may still exist.
Catastrophic flooding, collapse and sinking at around 9,500 BC has been suggested by many historical sources and it has now become a simple matter for science to prove or disprove the thesis.
Confirmation and dating of a very large sunken island requires access to and analysis of just a few sediment cores and a search for underwater structures in key locations. These may exist from just below the surface of the sea down to a depth of 11,000 feet.
It is important to realise that the O'Brien survey and the small adjustment for tilt re- creates the island as clearly described by Plato and many other independent and unconnected sources. The major building structures, if they still exist, will lie to the south west of the great plain in an area covered by the greatest depth of.' water close to the catastrophic crustal rifting of the East Azores Fault Zone, which can be clearly seen on the Institute of Oceanographic Sciences map.
We have featured more than 30 important books on our recommended reading list, which in total have produced a weight of evidence to support the basic thesis presented by O'Brien, spanning from the common records of the earliest antiquity to serious modern research. Only now are we beginning to appreciate the stature and reliability of the records presented by Solon and Plato, and accept recent Scientific explanations for related dramatic crustal rifting movements and vertical movements of the earths crust.
On a world wide scale there is common story of a great flood preceded by exceptional rainfall and accompanied by earth quakes and volcanic eruptions. It may be of significance to state that tsunami tidal waves were not directly mentioned in connection with this great flood story and that modern science has identified and dated three distinct rapid rises and three small declines in sea level since the ice age as the worlds climate warmed. The first great flood may have held more significance to early man and Atlantis, than the many subsequent floods and other natural disasters. The latter include interruptions to the circulatory flow of the Gulf Stream through fresh water input/ice melt, and episodic cometary debris impacts.
We welcome further input into this project from all interested parties. The more detailed hydrographic information, which we hope to obtain from the Portuguese authorities and the Southampton University Oceanographic Department, will allow a few small steps to be made to either dismiss the existence of Atlantis at this site or confirm the detailed evidence to re-create the great legend as fact.
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SURVEY OF ATLANTIS
A brief compilation of evidence to encourage further scientific research and analysis of the issues by specialists to prove or disprove the O'Brien thesis of the recent existence of a large Mid-Atlantis Ridge island centred on the Azores.
A Reconstruction of the Main Island of Plato's Atlantis - Christian O'Brien - 18th February 1985 - Widdington - Essex - England
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MAP OF THE NORTH ATLANTIC AT OR SHORTLY BEFORE THE END OF THE LAST GLACIAL STAGE - c. 11,000 BP
The former land bridge between Greenland and Europe was now interrupted in several places, and the Gulf Stream accordingly got access to the Artic Ocean, but was still prevented by the northern part of Atlantis from reaching the North Eastern Atlantic Basin.
With the penetration of the Gulf Stream into the Artic Ocean the meteorological situation was changed for the entire Northern Hemisphere and consequently for the earth as a whole. This penetration caused the east wind blowing along the margin of the Artic Ocean to cease, and the American ice fields were almost deprived of precipitation and therefore dwindled away.
This change together with the influx of the warm Gulf Stream into the Artic Ocean, constitute the two most important factors in ending the Ice Age. As long as the Gulf Stream brings warm water into the Artic Ocean we need not fear a real Ice Age.
From Atlantis the Verifiable Myth by Professor Rene Malaise
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ATLANTIS - FLOOD BASALT CONSTRUCTION AND COLLAPSE
The Shining Ones
Authors: Christian & Barbara Joy O'Brien
This book includes all the material contained within The Genius of the Few, but adds a great deal more information on the unfolding diaspora of the Shining Ones from the Southern Lebanon site around the world, their advanced technology and their influence over the next 8,000 years.
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Ancient Dry or Hanging River Bed
The Island of San Miguel - Azores
The Budleigh Salterton Pebble Beds deposited by fast flowing rivers at the stary of the Triassic period.
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RENE MALAISE COMMENTS ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE MIDATLANTIC RIDGE IN HIS 1972 PAPER
Figure 6 (Up Dated Image) - Bottom of the North Atlantic with Mid-Atlantic Ridge - The twin-shape of all major submarine mountains ranges the world over is beautifully expressed in this image of the North Atlantic..
This gigantic, now submarine Mid-Atlantic mountain chain extends from Iceland along the Atlantic into the Indian Ocean and constituted the back-bone of the Atlantis Continent. Like its branching ridges its sculpture shows that it was once sub-aerially eroded by running water. The continent remained above water for many thousands of years after the end of the Ice Age and was contemporary with the Old Egyptian Empire. After its submergence, owing to the constricting influence of the cold bottom-water, the main range was split in two parallel ones, by the same agency and separated by a deep and narrow V valley. (Constriction is a nuclear force and accordingly one of extreme magnitude).
The proved subsidence of the range in Post Glacial time and its cleavage as only narrowly V-shaped in cross section are two facts disclaiming the correctness of the theories of continental drift and of spreading sea floors. A raising magna flow from below, either from convection currents or from so-called mantle plumes, would raise and not sink a mountain rang and also bring its two split parts wider and wider apart by the supposed spreading sea-floors. The age of the magmatic rocks dredged from the range shows that it was thrust up in the Miocene, some 10 to 20 million years ago.
The twin ranges ought thus to have had ample time to be widely separated. The constriction theory alone can explain all movements in the earth’s crust in a natural way without resorting to hypothetical forces and the results are sustained by observations. The drift and spreading floor theories are founded on hypothesis only without such confirmations. Paleomagnetism, parallel magnetic anomalies and the congruence between the African and South American coast can be explained without these latter Theories.
From Atlantis: A Verifiable Myth by Professor Rene Malaise (1972)
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MAPS
Detailed Contour Survey of the Azores Area
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SEVEN CITIES
Area of the “Seven Cities,” Sao Miguel, the Azores. Legends of the Azores contain many references to the lost continent and violent seismic disturbances some of which in effect are still continuing along the length of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, one the world’s principal earthquake zones. (Photo courtesy of Regional Commission of Tourism in the Azores)
From Mysteries of Forgotten Worlds by Charles Berlitz
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SURMISED LOCATION OF ATLANTIS - NJ ZHIROV
From Atlantis by N.J. Zhirov
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