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Criticism

The book has not received a great deal of formal critical analysis due to its obscurity. From a skeptical point of view, the book contains numerous factual errors regarding the science it describes, and many passages have been documented as plagiarized from other sources. The book is not silent on these issues. Regarding the factual errors, the so-called supernal authors admit that "within a few short years many of our statements regarding the physical sciences will stand in need of revision in consequence of additional scientific developments and new discoveries. These new developments we even now foresee, but we are forbidden to include such humanly undiscovered facts in the revelatory records." Regarding the passages plagiarized from other sources, The Urantia Book states in its Forward that it freely used "human concepts, assembled from the God-knowing mortals of the past and the present".

The book on occasion makes unsettling statements on racial issues, and at one point even claims that youth should be encouraged to study eugenics. A sample statement: "As long as present-day races are so overloaded with inferior and degenerate strains, race intermingling on a large scale would be most detrimental, but most of the objections to such experiments rest on social and cultural prejudices rather than on biological considerations."

A number of outsized claims are made by the book about its own importance. The book matter of factly states that it is the Fifth Epochal Revelation in human history, the fourth revelation having been the life of Jesus Christ. It describes that "Truth is always a revelation: autorevelation when it emerges as a result of the work of the indwelling Adjuster; epochal revelation when it is presented by the function of some other celestial agency, group, or personality."

Much has been made of the mystery surrounding the origin of the book, by those who have read it. According to Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery by Martin Gardner, the Contact Commission originated with a group of former Seventh-day Adventists. He suspects that The Urantia Book was channeled through Dr. John Harvey Kellogg, a physician and friend of Sadler's. Some others suspect that the "Contact Personality" -- who slept throughout all of the contact transactions -- was Edgar Cayce. Sadler and other Contact Commission members, now all deceased, always claimed that the 196 Papers which comprise the published book were physically materialized. This materialization, paper by paper, was said to have been carried out over more than a decade. A group of Dr. Sadler's friends and colleagues who originally began meeting for intellectual discussions, became a sort of focus group for the revelators. The were known as the Forum, and their entire function was to devise questions about the material. Only the material whose purpose was purportedly to educate Sadler and a few others in the new spiritual and cosmological concepts -- all of which preceded the reception of the Papers -- may be said to have been "channeled", although the Contact Personality's mind is said in The Urantia Book to have been used in its reception.

Adherents
Many people find the doctrines of The Urantia Book to be compelling for their detailed attempts to reconcile the innumerable discrepancies between modern science and religion. The Urantia movement does not purport to advocate any organized religion. By strict definition, adherents of the Urantia Book could be considered by some as involved in a cult, however in practice there are not many of the characteristics normally associated with cults. There is not a central charismatic figure, there are no hidden mysteries, there are no rituals or ceremonies, and there is not a teaching that the book's followers are chosen people whereas all others are lost. The book cautions against practices associated with mysticism, rather than encouraging them. The book teaches that believers are to be both friendly and respectful of the humanity of, as well as the divinity in, all others. It teaches that since all people are children of a universal Paradise Father, spiritually all people are brothers and sisters. Its readers say The Urantia Book contains many advanced spiritual concepts that are conducive to growth.

Critics argue that, despite the claims of the Urantia movement not to be an organized religion, it is a religion and has an organisation. These critics would say that claiming not to be a religion does not make one not a religion -- one is a religion if one teaches doctrines religious in nature. Indeed, they would note that it may bbe useful for a religion to deny itself being a religion, to overcome any opposition to religion in potential adherents.

Adherents
Many people find the doctrines of The Urantia Book to be compelling for their detailed attempts to reconcile the innumerable discrepancies between modern science and religion. The Urantia movement does not purport to advocate any organized religion. By strict definition, adherents of the Urantia Book could be considered by some as involved in a cult, however in practice there are not many of the characteristics normally associated with cults. There is not a central charismatic figure, there are no hidden mysteries, there are no rituals or ceremonies, and there is not a teaching that the book's followers are chosen people whereas all others are lost. The book cautions against practices associated with mysticism, rather than encouraging them. The book teaches that believers are to be both friendly and respectful of the humanity of, as well as the divinity in, all others. It teaches that since all people are children of a universal Paradise Father, spiritually all people are brothers and sisters. Its readers say The Urantia Book contains many advanced spiritual concepts that are conducive to growth.

Critics argue that, despite the claims of the Urantia movement not to be an organized religion, it is a religion and has an organisation. These critics would say that claiming not to be a religion does not make one not a religion -- one is a religion if one teaches doctrines religious in nature. Indeed, they would note that it may be useful for a religion to deny itself being a religion, to overcome any opposition to religion in potential adherents.

External links
The Urantia Foundation
A brief description of Urantia and its origins* The Urantia Book
Registry of Urantia Organizations
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urantia"

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Not meaning to demean the book's origins, of course. I didn't know much about the book until Absonite began talking about it, and so, decided I should do some research on it myself.

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My thinking is there were many big bangs in the universe from the black holes and each solar system has one including our own.And they found out from studying the movement of the stars around each solar sytem that it is being all suck in.
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My greatest desire, more than for any woman I have ever known, would be to know, with certainty, how all this came into being. I would like to know exactly what created the universe, when it happened, who or what made all this. I would like to know, apart from all religious idealism, if their truly is a God or not and, if so, just what that God is.
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Baphomet, dude, weren't you up to like 21 women in that poll we did? No wonder you're more interested in learning about God than in dating now, you need to settle down, bud!
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hi carolyn,
i like your approach to the whole mystery. Here is what really happened though, and it can be termed as the biggest bang in this universe. In other words the greatest orgasm ever.
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I guess that makes the rest of us just a bunch of sperm and ovaries in the grand scheme of things, Absonite!
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Anyone hear ever heard of Wilhelm Reich?

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wasn't he some sort of psychiatrist or something that studied under or with Freud? but then started working on experiments with radioactivity that he claimed explained our universe or atmosphere or something like that...

as you can tell, this is real sketchy. I read a little about him many many years ago.
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Wilhelm Reich

Dr. Wilhelm ReichWilhelm Reich (March 24, 1897–November 3, 1957) was an Austrian-American psychiatrist, psychoanalyst, and author, who was trained in Vienna by Sigmund Freud.

In the 1930s, Reich claimed to have discovered a physical energy, which he called "orgone," and which he said was contained in the atmosphere and in all living matter. He developed instruments — orgone accumulators — to detect and harness the energy, which he said could be used to treat illnesses like cancer. His views were not accepted by the mainstream scientific community.

When his Mass Psychology of Fascism, published in 1933, was banned by the Nazis, Reich realized he was in danger; he moved to the United States in 1939, where he continued his orgone research. In 1947, following a series of articles about orgone in the New Republic and Harpers, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) began an investigation into Reich's claims about orgone therapy, and won an injunction against its promotion as a medical treatment. Charged with contempt of court for violating the injunction, Reich conducted his own defense, which involved sending the judge all his books to read. He was sentenced to two years' imprisonment.

In August 1956, several tons of Reich's publications were burned by the FDA. Reich died of heart failure in jail just over a year later, one day before he was due to apply for parole.

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The early development of orgone therapy

In 1922, Reich set up private practice as a psychoanalyst, and became first clinical assistant, and later vice-director, at Freud's Polyanalytic Polyclinic. He joined the faculty of the Psychoanalytic Institute in Vienna in 1924, and conducted research into the social causes of neurosis. It was at the Vienna Psychoanalytic Association that Reich met Annie Pink, a fellow analyst-in-training. They married, and had their first daughter, Eva, in 1924 and a second daughter in 1928, but Reich was unable to control his interest in other women. The marriage was not a happy one, and did not last.

Reich developed a theory that the ability to feel sexual love depended on a physical ability to make love with what he called "orgastic potency." He attempted to "measure" the male orgasm, noting that four distinct phases occurred physiologically: first, the psychosexual build-up or tension; second. the tumescence of the ****, with an accompanying "charge," which Reich measured electrically; third, an electrical discharge at the moment of orgasm, and fourth, the relaxation of the ****. He believed the force that he measured was a distinct type of energy present in all life forms. He called it "orgone." [3]

He was a prolific writer for psychoanalytic journals in Europe, and his book Character Analysis brought forth a small revolution in the practice of psychoanalysis itself, and is still used today as a textbook for analytically-oriented classes in medical schools. The book introduced Reich's theory of "body armoring." He argued that unreleased psychosexual energy could produce actual physical blocks within muscles and organs, and that these act as a "body armor," preventing the release of the energy. An orgasm was one way to break through the armor. These ideas developed into a general theory of the importance of a healthy sex life to overall well-being, a theory compatible with Freud's views.

Reich agreed with Freud that sexual development was the origin of mental disorder. They both believed that most psychological states were dictated by unconscious processes; that infant sexuality develops early but is repressed, and that this has important consequences for mental health. They were both atheists, believing that morality is a repression of the sexuality of individuals imposed on them as they move from childhood to maturity. At that time a Marxist, Reich argued that the source of sexual repression was bourgeois morality and the socio-economic structures that produced it. As sexual repression was the cause of the neuroses, the best cure would be to have an active, guilt-free sex life. He argued that such a liberation could come about only through a morality not imposed by a repressive economic structure. [4] In 1928, he joined the Austrian Communist Party and founded the Socialist Association for Sexual Counselling and Research, which organized counselling centers for workers — in contrast to Freud, who was perceived as treating only the bourgeoisie.

Reich employed an unusual therapeutic method. He used touch to accompany the talking cure, taking an active role in sessions, feeling his patients' chests to check their breathing, repositioning their bodies, and sometimes requiring them to remove their clothes, so that men were treated wearing shorts and women in bra and panties. These methods caused a split between Reich and the rest of the psychoanalytic community. [5]

In 1930, he moved his practice to Berlin and joined the Communist Party of Germany, becoming its spokesman. His best-known book, The Sexual Revolution, was published at this time in Vienna. Advocating free contraceptives and abortion on demand, he again set up clinics in working-class areas and taught sex education, but eventually became too outspoken even for the communists, and he was expelled from the party in 1933.

In the same year, The Mass Psychology of Fascism was published, in which Reich categorized fascism as a symptom of sexual repression. The book was banned by the Nazis when they came to power. Reich was expelled from the International Psychological Association in 1934 for political militancy. German newspapers started attacking him as a womanizer, a communist, and a Jew who advocated free love. He realized he was in danger and hurriedly left Germany disguised as a tourist on a ski trip to Austria. He spent some years in Denmark, Sweden, and Norway, before leaving for the U.S. in 1939


The bion experiments
From 1934-37, based for most of the period in Oslo, Reich conducted experiments seeking the origins of life. He examined protozoa, single-celled creatures with nuclei that, like animals, display mobility and heterotrophy, meaning they require organic matter to obtain carbon for growth. He grew cultured vesicles using grass, beach sand, iron, and animal tissue, boiling them, adding potassium and gelatin. Having heated the materials to incandescence with a heat-torch, he noted bright, glowing, blue vesicles, which, he claimed, could be cultured, and which gave off an observable radiant energy, which he called orgone. He named the vesicles "bions" and believed they were a rudimentary form of life, or halfway between life and non-life. When he poured the cooled mixture onto growth media, bacteria were born. Reich dismissed the idea that the bacteria were already present in the air, or in the sand and other materials he used. Reich's The Bion Experiments on the Origin of Life was published in Oslo in 1938, leading to attacks in the press that he was a "Jew pornographer" who was daring to meddle with the origins of life. [6]

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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2008, 12:19:09 am »

T-bacilli

In 1936, in Beyond Psychology, Reich wrote that:

Since everything is antithetically arranged, there must be two different types of single-celled organisms: (a) life-destroying organisms or organisms that form through organic decay, (b) life-promoting organisms that form from inorganic material that comes to life.

This idea led Reich to believe he had found the cause of cancer. He called the life-destroying organisms "T-bacill," with the T standing for Thanatos, Greek for death. He described in The Cancer Biopathy how he had found them in a culture of rotting cancerous tissue obtained from a local hospital. He wrote that T-bacilli were formed from the disintegration of protein. He claimed they were 0.2 to 0.5 micrometre in length, shaped like lancets, and when injected into mice, they caused inflammation and cancer. He concluded that when orgone energy diminishes in cells, through ageing or injury, the cells undergo "bionous degeneration" or death. At some point, the deadly T-bacilli start to form in the cells. Death from cancer, he believed, was caused by an overwhelming growth of the T-bacilli.

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Orgone accumulators and cloudbusters

Reich with a "cloudbuster"In March 1938, Hitler annexed Austria. Reich's ex-wife and daughters had already left for the U.S., and in August 1939, Reich sailed out of Norway on the last boat to leave before the war began. He settled in Forest Hills, Long Island, and in 1946, married Ilse Ollendorf, with whom he had a son, Peter.

It was during this period, according to some researchers, that Reich appeared to suffer a breakdown. They say that he became paranoid and revised parts of his earlier works to remove references to Marxist theory. [7] Reich's defenders say that Reich's revisions were minor, confined only to the English-speaking American period of his work, and were primarily sexological, clinical, or scientific in nature. Reich was one of the first of the European socialists to break ranks completely with the Communist Party; for example, in his book Mass Psychology of Fascism, which he wrote after a trip to Russia, he identified communism as "Red Fascism". His defenders say that the charge of paranoia is intended to discredit Reich's critique of Marxism. American writer Jim Martin alleges that many of those who have attacked Reich's biophysical research — on the orgone accumulator, for example — are themselves leftist and Marxist (Martin 2000).

In 1940, Reich built boxes — orgone accumulators — to concentrate orgone energy in the atmosphere, some for lab animals, and some large enough for a human being to sit inside. He now believed orgone was a type of primordial cosmic energy, blue in color, which he claimed was omnipresent and responsible for such things as weather, the color of the sky, gravity, the formation of galaxies, and the biological expressions of emotion and sexuality. Composed of alternating layers of ferrous metals and insulators with a high-dielectrical constant, his orgone accumulators had the appearance of a large hollow "capacitor". He believed that sitting inside the box might provide a treatment for cancer and other illnesses. It was the construction of these boxes that caught the attention of the press, and wild rumors spread that they were "sex boxes" which caused uncontrollable erections. [8]

Reich also designed a "cloudbuster" with which he said he could manipulate streams of orgone energy in the atmosphere to induce rain by forcing clouds to form and disperse. Based on experiments with the orgone accumulator, he argued that orgone energy was a negatively-entropic force in nature which was responsible for concentrating and organizing matter. During one drought-relief expedition to Arizona, he claimed to have observed UFOs, and speculated that orgone might be used for the propulsion of UFOs.

According to his theory, illness was primarily caused by depletion or blockages of the orgone energy within the body. He conducted clinical tests of the orgone accumulator on people suffering from a variety of illnesses. The patient would sit within the accumulator and absorb the "concentrated orgone energy". He built smaller, more portable accumulator-blankets of the same layered construction for application to parts of the body. The effects observed were claimed to boost the immune system, even to the point of destroying certain types of tumors, though Reich was hesitant to claim this constituted a "cure". The orgone accumulator was also tested on mice with cancer, and on plant-growth, the results convincing Reich that the benefits of orgone therapy could not be attributed to a placebo effect. He had, he believed, developed a grand unified theory of physical and mental health. [9]


Orgone experiment with Einstein
In 1940, Reich wrote to Albert Einstein saying he had a scientific discovery he wanted to discuss, and on January 13, 1941, he went to visit Einstein in Princeton. They talked for five hours, and Einstein agreed to test an orgone accumulator, which Reich had made out of a Faraday cage made of galvanized steel and insulated by wood and paper on the outside. Einstein agreed with Reich that if, as Reich suggested, an object's temperature could be raised without an apparent heating source, it would be "a bomb" in physics

Reich supplied the device during their second meeting, and Einstein performed the experiment in his basement, which involved taking the temperature atop, inside, and near the device. He also stripped the device down to its Faraday cage to compare temperatures. Over the course of a week, in both cases, Einstein observed a rise in temperature, and confirmed Reich's finding in a published letter. Since Reich could offer no explanation for the finding, Reich concluded that the heat was the result of a novel form of energy — orgone energy — that had accumulated inside the Faraday cage. However, one of Einstein's colleagues at Princeton, the Polish physicist Leopold Infeld, interpreted the phenomenon as resulting from thermal convection currents, though he failed to provide an experimental demonstration of his contention. Einstein concurred that the experiment could be explained by convection.

Over the next three years of correspondence, Reich and Einstein disagreed on the interpretation of the experiment. The entire correspondence between Reich and Einstein was published by Reich's press as The Einstein Affair in 1953. In 2001, the neo-Reichians Paulo Correa and Alexandra Correa reproduced the experiment and introduced controls that they say rule out the possibility of convection as an explanation (see Aetherometry). A similar experiment was independently carried out by their supporter Eugene Mallove.

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yeah, that's the guy baphomet. Memory is jogged now, but I still remember something about an experiment he conducted using radioactive material that went off the scale on a geigercounter and caused some deaths to his assistants.
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Thank You Baphomet
Carloyns comments brought to mind Reich's theories about the primacy of the orgasm in psychological and physical health.
Reich's theories of orgone also relate it to the origins of life, and the formation of the cosmos.
Reich's orgone energy seems to be the same mystic energy which is refered to in many cultures, For instance it could also be termed prana, chi, odic force, ether, etc.

Worth a thought

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Well, thank you both for bringing it to my attention, as I would never have gotten the idea to research it otherwise.

Once again, an orgasm leads to other good things.

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Your right Zaphod

Reich originally thought that he could remove radioactivy from an area by using orgone energy but he was wrong introducing the orgone energy into the radioactively contaminated area amplified its harmful affects and
produced what he called deadly orgone or DOR.

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