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« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2008, 12:50:53 am »

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Originally posted by ParaNormalIAm:
Baph, it's good to see you again......
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It is certainly good to "see" you again as well, HFN/ParaNormalIAm.

When last we "talked," it was also this time of year and 150,000 people were about to be killed by the tsunamis of Asia. This happened December 26th.

I wonder what surprises the powers that be have in store for us come this Christmas season..?
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Baph,

Hard to believe it has been a year already since that happened, and already three months since Hurricane Katrina ravaged the Gulf Coast.

I believe we are headed into an age of even greater disasters in the years ahead. Interesting how despite all our technology, all our building, we are still almost as vulnerable to these types of calamities as the ancients.

Johnee,

Tesla was a misunderstood, even tragic figure and one of my personal heroes. Then, I suppose a lot of people admired his genius. I had heard that when he died, the government confiscated all his notes and used them for defense purposes. Like the topic of Atlantis, though, one never knows where the fact ends and the fiction begins when it comes to Tesla.

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« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2008, 12:51:20 am »

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My answer is that being might also be "human." We are told that we are made in God's own image. Might also something of us also reside in God?
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My thought on this is that the image that we are made in is in reference to our conciousness, that thing that gives us self awareness, as in the ability to say I am ! Like when Moses asked what was GOD's name and the reponse was I AM THAT I AM, therefore there is some GOD in everyone!(WHATEVER YOU DID UNTO ONE OF THE LEAST,YOU DID UNTO ME)( in reality GOD can never be seperated from anything except our mind!)  Smiley

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« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2008, 12:51:56 am »

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Mysterious Deep-Space Object Raises Questions On Origin Of Solar System

An edge-on-view of the solar system to show the tilt of Buffy's orbit. See larger image. Credits: The Canada France Ecliptic Plane Survey.
Paris (AFP) Dec 13, 2005
Astronomers working in Canada, France and the United States said Tuesday they had found a small deep-space object, nicknamed Buffy, that challenges mainstream theories about the evolution of the Solar System.
The rock lies in the Kuiper Belt, the name for the flock of objects beyond Neptune's orbit that are believed to be leftover rubble from the Solar System's building phase and are the source for many comets, the Canada-France Ecliptic Plane Survey (CFEPS) said.

Measuring between 500 and 1,000 kilometers (300 to 600 miles) across and taking about 440 years to make just one circuit of the Sun, Buffy is remarkable not for its size -- around half a dozen identified Kuiper Belt objects are bigger -- but for its location and orbital tilt.

"This new object challenges current theories about the history of the early Solar System," CFEPS said in a press release.

"(...) This new discovery is exciting because it causes us to rethink our understanding about how the Kuiper Belt formed."

Buffy has an almost perfect circular orbit and encircles the Sun at an extreme tilt, at 47 degrees to the orbital plane of the planets as they swing around the Sun.

But it lies in a curious outer region of the Kuiper Belt, on the dark, bone-freezing fringes of the Solar System.

The theory is that, billions of years ago, this remote community of rocks, the so-called "extended scattered disk" of the Kuiper Belt, got their extremely eccentric orbits because of a passing star.

The star's gravitational pull was enough to give the objects a tug, pulling them out of a circular orbit but not enough to coax them away from enslavement to the Sun.

But Buffy is the odd one out -- its almost-perfect orbit and tilt circular puts a dent in the "star" theory.

One possibility, the discoverers say, is that, in the infant days of the Solar System, the nascent Neptune lay much closer to the Sun.

It eventually migrated outwards, causing at least some members of the Belt's "extended scattered disk" to develop more circular and tilted orbits, they speculate.

Buffy is the temporary name given by the team for the object, whose official designation by the Paris-based International Astronomical Union (IAU) is 2004 XR 190.

Its orbit is in a relatively narrow range of between 52 and and 62 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun (an AU is a standard measurement, being that of the distance between the Earth and the Sun, of approximately 150 million kilometers, or 93 million miles).

By comparison, another "extended scattered disk" member called Sedna swings out to as far as 900 AU before coming as close to the Sun as 76 AU.

The Kuiper Belt was first recognised in 1992.

Most of its objects lie in a region that extends from 30 to 50 AU where there are "at least" 70,000 rocks with a diameter of 100 kms (60 miles) or more, according to David Jewitt, a specialist at the University of Hawaii.

Buffy was first noted by Lynne Allen of the University of British Columbia, Canada, in December last year as she pored over data from powerful computers that sift through telescopic images in search of new celestial sightings.

Because Kuiper Belt objects take so long to go around the Sun, it takes between one and two years of additional observations to calculate their orbits precisely.

Further measurements are needed over the next three months for a fine-tuning of Buffy's orbit.

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Discovery of a large Kuiper Belt object with an unusual orbit

A team of astronomers working in Canada, France and the United States have discovered an unusual small body orbiting the Sun beyond Neptune, in the region astronomers call the Kuiper belt. This new object is twice as far from the Sun as Neptune and is roughly half the size of Pluto. The body, temporarily code-named "Buffy", has a highly unusual orbit which is difficult to explain using previous theories of the formation of the outer Solar System.

Currently 58 astronomical units from the Sun (1 astronomical unit, or AU, is the distance between the Earth and the Sun), the new object never approaches closer than 50 AU, because its orbit is close to circular.

Almost all Kuiper belt objects discovered beyond Neptune are between 30 AU and 50 AU away. Beyond 50 AU, the main Kuiper belt appears to end, and what few objects have been discovered beyond this distance have all been on very high eccentricity (non-circular) orbits.

Most of these high-eccentricity orbits are the result of Neptune "flinging" the object outward by a gravitational slingshot. However, because this new object does not approach closer than 50 AU, a different theory is needed to explain its orbit. Complicating the problem, the object's orbit also has an extreme tilt, being inclined (tilted) at 47 degrees to the rest of the Solar System.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/kuiper-05k.html
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« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2008, 12:55:16 am »

 
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« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2008, 12:55:33 am »

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the universe is a constant moving entity that begins and ends with a rotation
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How can something begin with a rotation? It must begin then rotate n'est ce pas?

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« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2008, 12:56:12 am »

 
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If the universe were rotating then relative to what? A whole universe rotating is the same as a static universe. Relative to what?

The earth is rotating but relative to us it is static. The earth is travelling at great speed around the sun, but relative to us it is static.

The solar system is travelling at great speed from the centre of the galaxy but we don't see the sidewalk zoom away from our feet.

Relative to what?
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« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2008, 12:59:04 am »

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Nonsense, it is the earth that sits perfectly still, and all the stars and the sun revolve around it, anyone can tell you that.

How do I know these things? Well, it's in the Bible, and it wouldn't be there if it wasn't true, would it?

The earth has it's act together, it's the rest of the universe that needs to do some sprucing up.

Please consult your Bible before again making such absurd statements(!)

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« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2008, 12:59:33 am »

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« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2008, 12:59:47 am »

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That's not very nice.
Hadn't you best give your thought adjuster a call?

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« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2008, 01:00:09 am »

 
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To attempt to fathom The Urantia Book, one must descend into a dark and foreboding labyrinth of quirky terminology, pseudoscientific pronouncements, and revisionist ideas about Jesus. In barest outline, the book informs us that God is a “Trinity of Trinities,” that humans are “unfallen” beings who have a divine spark within them (called a “Thought Adjuster”), that they can become fused with God through evolutionary development, and that Jesus’ death on the cross did not atone for human sin against God. To summarize, it is a kind of space age Gnosticism claiming to update orthodox Christianity.

Gardner notes that one of the book’s more objectionable anthropological claims is that the black (or “indigo”) race was the most inferior; although it claims that these people “have exactly the same standing before the celestial power as any other earthly race.” Gardner observes that this “is exactly what southerners in the United States, including their ministers, used to say about the African American slaves.” This revelation will certainly fail to endear potential converts who are African or African American.

Gardner’s well-researched conclusion is that The Urantia Book lacks any supernatural credibility. Its contents can be explained on the basis of purely terrestrial authors; its scientific claims were either common knowledge at the time or plain wrong; and it contains numerous plagiarisms (even stealing from Bertrand Russell). Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery is the most exhaustive critique of the movement yet published. It will help readers to understand many patterns of deception found in many other new religious groups as well.
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http://cultsandsociety.com/csissueidx/toc2001.1/dept2001.1/dept_bookreviews/bkrev_urantia.htm

So, do you believe the black race to be inferior, too, Absonite? If so, why? Please explain.

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« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2008, 01:00:38 am »

 
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PAPER 82 - THE EVOLUTION OF MARRIAGE, Oct 19 2000

line 123: Present-day prejudice against "half-castes," "hybrids," and "mongrels" arises because modern racial crossbreeding is, for the greater part, between the grossly inferior strains of the races concerned. You also get unsatisfactory offspring when the degenerate strains of the same race intermarry.

line 125: Hybridization of superior and dissimilar stocks is the secret of the creation of new and more vigorous strains. And this is true of plants, animals, and the human species. Hybridization augments vigor and increases fertility. Race mixtures of the average or superior strata of various peoples greatly increase creative potential, as is shown in the present population of the United States of North America. When such matings take place between the lower or inferior strata, creativity is diminished, as is shown by the present-day peoples of southern India.

line 127: As long as present-day races are so overloaded with inferior and degenerate strains, race intermingling on a large scale would be most detrimental, but most of the objections to such experiments rest on social and cultural prejudices rather than on biological considerations. Even among inferior stocks, hybrids often are an improvement on their ancestors. Hybridization makes for species improvement because of the role of the dominant genes. Racial intermixture increases the likelihood of a larger number of the desirable dominants being present in the hybrid.

line 135: After all, the real jeopardy of the human species is to be found in the unrestrained multiplication of the inferior and degenerate strains of the various civilized peoples rather than in any supposed danger of their racial interbreeding.

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« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2008, 01:01:13 am »

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1 entry found for bigot.
bi-g-ot.

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« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2008, 01:01:22 am »

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