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« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2008, 12:44:34 am »

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Astronomers Admit They Made Neptune Up
June 13, 2001 | Issue 37•22


LONDON–An elaborate, 155-year-old hoax was revealed Monday, when the Royal Astronomical Society confessed that the planet Neptune does not exist. "It appears to have begun in 1846, when Johann Galle needed a big discovery to give his career a jump-start, so he fabricated this new planet," said Royal Astronomical Society president N.O. Weiss. "Ever since, every astronomer who's wanted some attention has come up with some new report on 'Neptune' and made up some rubbish to support it. I swear, we meant to come clean eventually, but the whole thing just kind of snowballed."
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We live in, among other things, a time dimension where one event follows another. Time passes. Everything ages. Throughout our lives, we learn that effects always have causes. We would be confused if they didn’t. Therefore, it is hard to imagine the first cause, and even harder to imagine what, if anything, preceded “The First Cause.”

Just as God created the universe and everything in it, God also created time. There was a beginning of everything, including space and time. Consequently, God is outside of space and time. This means that God is unchanging (I Sam 15:29, Mal 3:6, Heb 6:17, James 1:17). He had no beginning and has no ending.

Also, and more pertinent to the question, from God’s perspective an effect does not follow a cause. He sees the beginning and the end (Rev 1:8, 21:6, 22:13). Asking who made God before time began reflects a lack of understanding—even though most of us at one time have pondered the question. No one “made” God; He is infinite, outside of time, and already existed when time began.

Thirty years ago, one of my children asked me this question as I tucked him into bed. While I can’t remember my answer, I am sure it was inadequate. Having years to think about his question has helped me somewhat resolve the logic of the preceding two paragraphs with what is hard to imagine.

Seeing things from God’s infinite perspective is probably as hard for us as it is for a dog or cat to understand what is on this printed page. If God is infinite and we are His finite creations, our limited understanding and perspective should not surprise us.

How else do we know that time began? The Bible is the most widely read book of all time. Within it, the most read page is probably the first page of Genesis. The first three words on that page

In the beginning ...

are probably the best-known group of three words of all time—the single, most widely proclaimed idea. By reading the fourth word, one sees that God was there at the beginning.


Another key insight comes from John 1:1.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Again, there was a beginning; we are also told Who was there when time began. Verses 1:2, 3, and 14 clarify these profound events even more.

Most questions concerning origins are answered in Parts I and II. Of the questions that remain, the following are some of the most frequently asked in my seminars and public presentations. They can be read in any order.


How Can the Study of Creation Be Scientific? Have New Scientific and Mathematical Tools Detected Adam and Eve? Because Galaxies Are Billions of Light-Years Away, Isn’t the Universe Billions of Years Old?
Why Does the Universe Seem To Be Expanding?
If the Sun and Stars Were Created on Day 4, What Was the Light of Day 1? How Old Do Evolutionists Say the Universe Is? What Was Archaeopteryx? How Accurate Is Radiocarbon Dating?
How Could Saltwater and Freshwater Fish Survive the Flood? What about the Dinosaurs? Have Planets Been Discovered Outside the Solar System? Did the Flood Last 40 Days and 40 Nights?
Is the Hydroplate Theory Consistent with the Bible?
How Was the Earth Divided in Peleg’s Day?
Did It Rain before the Flood?
What Triggered the Flood?
If God Made Everything, Who Made God?
Did a Water Canopy Surround Earth and Contribute to the Flood?
How Did Human “Races” Develop?
According to the Bible, When Was Adam Created? Is There Life in Outer Space?
Is There a Large Gap of Time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2?
Is Evolution Compatible with the Bible?




What Are the Social Consequences of Belief in Evolution?
How Do Evolutionists Respond to What You Say? How Do You Respond to Common Claims of Evolutionists?

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Lost in the study of how the universe was created are the reasons why God even made the universe.

For what purpose would an all-powerful being, a being that we assume is beyond even all need, make all this?

My answer is that being might also be "human." We are told that we are made in God's own image. Might also something of us also reside in God?

I believe that God made all this for one simple reason, that God is more human than anyone cares to admit. And anything human loathes to be alone.

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interesting post as always Unkown and Baphomet, thanks for the thoughts.  Smiley

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I liked Psycho's post:

Astronomers Admit They Made Neptune Up
June 13, 2001 | Issue 37•22

Perhaps they did.
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The universe is a consequence, not the cause. Before the Big Bang there was God's Big Crunch (like Brahma's Big Night), that is tsim tsum.

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Ultimately, what goes up must come down.

With the universe being an expanding void of matter,it tells me that it all started at a singal point.

All that was ,is and will be may still exist within this void as energy?.
As God?

At this point in human developement, we are still babies in the big picture.
When it comes to the facts, we may have to wait for the developed frontal lobes of the brain stage of growth. Like when the average man hits 30 years old. WE are at best, pre-teen........
Like 11 years old or something.....

At any rate, all things under the sun is all we have and have touched. In my own opinion, thats even to much to chew.

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Ultimately, what goes up must come down.

With the universe being an expanding void of matter,it tells me that it all started at a singal point.

All that was ,is and will be may still exist within this void as energy?.
As God?

At this point in human developement, we are still babies in the big picture.
When it comes to the facts, we may have to wait for the developed frontal lobes of the brain stage of growth. Like when the average man hits 30 years old. WE are at best, pre-teen........
Like 11 years old or something.....

At any rate, all things under the sun is all we have and have touched. In my own opinion, thats even to much to chew.

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Excellent quote on Tesla, Unknown, a misunderstood, mistreate genius. Where would Thomas Edison have been without him?

Van De- another great on energy...

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Baph, it's good to see you again......
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It is certainly good to "see" you again as well, HFN/ParaNormalIAm.

When last we "talked," it was also this time of year and 150,000 people were about to be killed by the tsunamis of Asia. This happened December 26th.

I wonder what surprises the powers that be have in store for us come this Christmas season..?

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Without Nikola Tesla, Thomas Edison may never have supported the invention of the electric chair .


New York's legislature grew revolted by several inefficient hangings and looked for a new way to execute people. Their solution was inspired by "The Wizard of Menlo Park,” Thomas Edison – although ironically, he publicized electrocution not to promote himself, but to discredit a rival.
Edison, inventor of the light bulb and pioneer of electricity, was marketing an electric transmission system based on direct current. But another inventor, George Westinghouse, cut into Edison's business with a rival invention -- alternating current.
Both AC and DC are safe under household conditions. But Edison claimed – falsely – that Westington’s AC, with its much higher voltage, was too dangerous for anything but an electrocution..
In 1887, Edison began a series of bizarre experiments at his West Orange lab, shocking unwanted dogs, cats and even a circus elephant to death with AC to prove that the current was deadly stuff.
New York soon decided on AC electricity as its substitute for hanging. Edison, delighted, urged authorities to use the term "Westinghousing" instead of electrocuting.
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Wow, pretty cool stuff, Johnee, from your link:

THE HISTORY OF THE ELECTRIC CHAIR

Electric Chair Timeline:
1880 - Most state laws provide for capital punishment, usually by hanging.
Unfortunately, hangmen's ignorance produced horrific scenes of slow
strangling deaths and gruesome decapitations.

1881 - Dr. Albert Southwick, a dentist and former steamboat engineer, sees elderly drunkard touch terminals of electrical generator in Buffalo, New York. He is amazed at how quickly and apparently painlessly the man is killed and describes episode to friend State Senator David McMillan.

1881 - McMillan speaks to Governor David B. Hill. Hill asks state legislature to consider how modern
day electricity might replace hanging.

1882 - Thomas Edison was the first person to establish himself in electrical utility industry with DC
service.

1886 - AC technology, developed by Westinghouse, was much more flexible and economic seriously
threatens Edison's hold on electrical utility market .

1886 - Legislature enacts Chapter 352 of the Laws of 1886 entitled "An act to authorize the appointment
of a commission to investigate and report to the legislature the most humane and approved method of
carrying into effect the sentence of death in capital cases."

1887 - Copper prices skyrocket when French syndicate corners market. DC requires very thick copper
cables. AC has a strong economic advantage. Edison realizes this and starts planning his attack on
other that economic reasons.

1887 - Edison conducts demonstration in West Orange, New Jersey, in which he kills large numbers of
cats and dogs by luring the animals onto a metal plate wired to a 1,000 volt AC generator. The press
describes these proceedings in detail.

1887 - Edison publishes pamphlet A Warning, comparing AC and DC, including of AC victims.

1888- Elbridge T. Gerry (grandson of signer of Declaration of Independence), Dr. Southwick, and
Matthew Hale, a judge from Albany,are appointed to commission created by 1886 law.. The Gerry report
is a detailed analysis of execution methods.

June 4, 1888 - New York Legislature passes Chapter 489 of Laws of New York of 1888 establishing
electrocution as the state's method of execution. Medico-Legal Society of New York is designated to
recommend how to implement new law.

June 5, 1888 - Inventor Harold P. Brown writes a very compelling editorial letter to the New York Post,
describing the death of a boy who touched a straggling telegraph wire running on AC current. Brown
recommends limiting AC transmissions to 300 volts, which negates economic advantage.

July, 1888 - Brown goes to Edison's West Orange, New Jersey lab to do research.

July 30, 1888 - Brown and his assistant Dr. Fred Peterson of Columbia show experimental results
at the School of Mines at Columbia University by administering a series of DC shocks to a large Newfoundland mix dog. By 1,000 volts DC, the dog is agonized but not killed. Finally, Brown finishes
the off with a charge of 330 volts AC. On a follow-up demonstration, SPCA steps in and second dog becomes first creature ever publicly reprieved from execution by electrocution (although it was later
killed at another demonstration).

Fall, 1888 - Medico-Legal appoints Brown's assistant Dr. Peterson to carry out further research.
Over the next few months, they electrocute two dozen dogs.

December 5, 1888 - Brown and Peterson electrocute two calves and a 1,230-pound horse. The New
York Times account ends with the observation that "alternating current will undoubtedly drive the
hangmen out of business in this state." This PR is probably engineered by Brown or Edison.

December 12, 1888 - Peterson committee submits report to New York Meidco-Legal Society,
recommending use of chair rather than tank of water or rubberized table.

December 13, 1888 - Westinghouse writes letter in NY Times accusing Brown of acting "in the interest
in and pay of the Edison Electric Light Company."

January 1, 1889 - World's first Electrical Execution Law goes into effect.

March, 1889 - Brown meets with Austin Lathrop, superintendent of New York prisons, to arrange for
purchase of Westinghouse AC generators to power the electric chair. Because Westinghouse will not
sell directly to the prisons, Brown and Edison resort to subterfuge to acquire three generators for $7,000
to $8,000.

March 29, 1889 - William Kemler kills his lover Matilda ("Tille") Ziegler with an axe in Buffalo, New York,
which was then known as :the "Electric City of the Future."

Spring, 1889 - Joseph Chappleau, convicted for poisoning neighbor's cows, is first person sentenced to
death under Electrical Execution Law. His sentence is commuted to life imprisonment.

May, 1989 - William Kemmler is sentenced to death.

1889 - 1890 - Westinghouse funds appeals for Kemmler on the grounds that electrocution is cruel and
unusual punishment. Edison and Brown are witnesses for the state. The appeal is denied, as are two
subsequent appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court.

1890 - Edwin R. Davis, Auburn Prison electrician, designs an electric chair model which closely
resembles our modern device, as well as elaborate testing procedures involving large slabs of meat.

August 6, 1890 - Kemmler is executed in the electric chair at Auburn Prison, the first person ever to be
executed by electrocution. The first application of current is botched and Kemmler does not die until the
current is fired up a second time.

http://www.ccadp.org/electricchair.htm
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I heard that later on Edison tried to distance himself from the electric chair as it got more unpopular.

Edison, despite being so brilliant, was actually kind of a creep personally. He sued because he wanted his company to have sole rights to the movie industry and he also jipped Tesla out of fifty thousand bucks.
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Rather like elephants having known more than a few, back when I were a tarzan wannabe.

In 1907 and 1908, Tesla wrote about the destructive effects of his energy transmitter. His Wardenclyffe facility was much larger than the Colorado Springs device that destroyed the power station's generator. Then, in 1915, he stated bluntly:

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It is perfectly practical to transmit electrical energy without wires and produce destructive effects at a distance. I have already constructed a wireless transmitter which makes this possible. ... But when unavoidable [it] may be used to destroy property and life. The art is already so far developed that the great destructive effects can be produced at any point on the globe, defined beforehand with great accuracy (emphasis added).(30)
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He seems to confess to such a test having taken place before 1915, and, though the evidence is circumstantial, Tesla had the motive and the means to cause the Tunguska event. His transmitter could generate energy levels and frequencies capable of releasing the destructive force of 10 megatons, or more, of TNT. And the overlooked genius was desperate.

http://prometheus.al.ru/english/phisik/onichelson/tunguska.htm
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Those Colorado Springs tests carried out by Tesla were well remembered by local residents. With a 200 foot pole topped by a large copper sphere rising above his laboratory he generated potentials that discharged lightning bolts up to 135 feet long. Thunder from the released energy could be heard 15 miles away in Cripple Creek. People walking along the streets were amazed to see sparks jumping between their feet and the ground, and flames of electricity would spring from a tap when anyone turned them on for a drink of water. Light bulbs within 100 feet of the experimental tower glowed when they were turned off. Horses at the livery stable received shocks through their metal shoes and bolted from the stalls. Even insects were affected: Butterflies became electrified and "helplessly swirled in circles - their wings spouting blue halos of 'St. Elmo's Fire.'"(11)  Smiley
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