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« Reply #135 on: August 17, 2008, 03:46:28 am »

 
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/04/24/tongue.sight.ap/index.html

I will borrow this from BFFT, as an example,

Here is modern technology,it can be used for good or evil, and it has nothing to do with religion.
 
 
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« Reply #138 on: August 17, 2008, 03:48:17 am »

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I think the link below should be included in the topic of this discussion.

The Properties of the Universe - As we conceive it 

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Originally posted by Sarah:
Time is a river.

WE made God.

God will be made in the future, not in the past. God will evolve into a being of all powers, beyond all flesh, blood and form and become a thing that - at first stretching the limits of our understanding - then defies all mortal comprehension.

God will evolve beyond all matter and the universe shall be reborn again, or born for the first time, whichever you prefer.

Then we will go back to the beginning again, and things will be like they were, sadly, no better or worse than they were before.

"All-powerful," we must remember, does not mean "perfect."
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Interesting ideas, Sarah.
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This is as far as I have gotten so far,

In other words, proof of a creator leaves us back at ground zero.

Yes? It does? WHY?

If we found proof of a creator, not of the religious kind but a creator of sorts, I think that would be most interesting.

Proof of the "nothing" seems boring.
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These are interesting ideas, too, Ishtar.

What if we found proof of a creator that had nothing with the God mentioned in Bible stotries?

That's what someone will find in the end, I think (not us, by that time, we'll all be dead).
It sort of leaves everything up in the air again.
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China Makes Artificial Rain for Beijing Fri May 5, 6:29 PM ET



BEIJING - Chinese weather specialists used chemicals to engineer Beijing's heaviest rainfall of the year, helping to relieve drought and rinse dust from China's capital, the official Xinhua News Agency reported Friday.

Technicians with the Beijing Weather Modification Office fired seven rocket shells containing 163 cigarette-size sticks of silver iodide over the city's skies on Thursday, Xinhua said.

The reaction that occurred brought as much as four-tenths of an inch of rain, the heaviest rainfall this year, helping to "alleviate drought, add soil moisture and remove dust from the air for better air quality," Xinhua said.

Though unusual in many parts of the world, China has been tinkering with artificial rainmaking for decades, using it frequently in the drought-plagued north. Last month, another artificial rainfall was generated to clear Beijing after the city suffered some of the fiercest dust storms this decade.

Whether cloud-seeding actually works has been the subject of debate in the scientific community. In 2003, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences questioned the science behind it as "too weak."

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Rutan Takes Aim at NASA's CEV Plans, Likens it to 'Archeology' Leonard David
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Thu May 4, 8:00 PM ET


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LOS ANGELES, California - A vibrant suborbital space travel industry, including space hotels, and treks to the Moon and beyond are attainable, but only if governmental regulations don't stifle creativity and breakthroughs in building affordable and safe public spaceliners.


Those are a few of the views Burt Rutan, head of the Mojave, California-based Scaled Composites--and leader of the team that designed, built and flew the milestone making SpaceShipOne, the first privately financed suborbital rocket plane--shared today with attendees of the the 25th International Space Development Conference. The event runs here May 4-7.


Rutan also took the time to fault NASA's Crew Exploration Vehicle project--a key element of the space agency's Moon, Mars and beyond strategy--describing it as a taxpayer-funded research that makes absolutely no sense.


Dilemma in the making


Rutan and his Scaled Composites team are now busy at work on a fleet of suborbital spaceliners, as well as two giant carrier planes, under a deal with Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic enterprise.


Rutan said that he remains worried about the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) commercial space transportation regulations, tagging it a dilemma. There remain several sticky, red tape rules that may well cripple experimental research and development of passenger-carrying space planes.


Such rules are inhibiting the prospect that a sustainable suborbital space travel industry can be established, Rutan said.


Harsh words for NASA


While busy trying to make safe suborbital spaceships, Rutan said he has another goal: "I want to go to the Moon in my lifetime."


Rutan had harsh words for NASA's Crew Exploration Vehicle program--and the space agency's revisit of the Moon. He likened NASA's efforts to archeology.


"They are forcing the program to be done with technology that we already know works. They are not creating an environment where it is possible to have a breakthrough," Rutan advised. "It doesn't make sense," he said, contending that programs must encourage risks "in order to stumble into breakthroughs."


Although tipping his hat to the technical competence of NASA chief, Mike Griffin, "I wouldn't have his job," Rutan added. The NASA task ahead is trying to fulfill the President Bush space exploration vision ... but given "only pennies to do it."


Safety and affordability are key


Rutan said if he was the NASA Administrator, he would call a major press conference about the agency plans to go back to the Moon.


"I'd go in front of the microphone," Rutan said, "and I'd scream at the top of my lungs, 'this is stupid,' then turn around and head back to the office and go back to work."


"If we copy what we had it won't be affordable enough or safe enough," Rutan said, to foster human space travel beyond low Earth orbit, to the Moon, and outward.


NASA's space shuttle is complex and generically dangerous, Rutan pointed out. Still, not flying the shuttle to the Hubble Space Telescope is symbolic of a larger issue.


"The budget forecast [for NASA] is to go out and spend hundreds of billions of dollar to go to Mars and yet you don't have the courage to go back to the Hubble ... it looks like you got the wrong guys doing it," Rutan concluded.


ISDC 2006: Exploring New Worlds
Private Space Companies Forge Ahead Despite Failures
Leonard David is a Senior Space Writer for SPACE.com and the former editor of Ad Astra, the official magazine of the National Space Society

NOTE: The views of this article are the author's and do not reflect the policies of the National Space Society.

Visit SPACE.com/Ad Astra Online for more news, views and scientific inquiry from the National Space Society.

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Arctic Glacier Stain Catches Interest of Space Scientists After Tests Find New Life Forms
By Christopher Hogg


Digital Journal — A team of researchers are heading to the high Arctic in a Canadian-led expedition that will look for minerals that could provide clues about extraterrestrial life.

After geologist Benoit Beauchamp’s previous journey to the arctic turned up a massive sulphur-coated glacier spring on Ellesmere Island, scientists are curious to know more about the natural oddity.

Beauchamp discovered the spring in the mid-1990s when he noticed a yellow stain on the snow while flying above the Borup Fiord Pass in a helicopter. He returned to the area and noticed the strong smell of rotten eggs that indicated the presence of sulphur. Beauchamp’s colleague, Dr. Steve Grasby, came back in 1999 and 2001 to collect samples of water and mineral deposits.

Early testing showed the glacier spring contains new forms of bacteria and an extremely rare mineral known as vaterite. The bacteria have survived in one of the coldest and harshest environments on Earth and scientists say nothing like it has ever been found before.

“That yellowish stain has attracted the attention of NASA and the Canadian Space Agency because it has a link to extraterrestrial life,” Beauchamp, the executive director of the Arctic Institute of North America, told Canada.com. “What we're finding more and more is there is life within the ice and beneath the ice.”

The Arctic Institute of North America is a non-profit research institute of the University of Calgary. Their team is eager to begin exploring the arctic sulphur deposit because signs of life in Canada’s arctic suggest it’s also possible life could exist on Jupiter’s second moon Europa. Scientists say the glacial spring in the arctic will provide critical information for understanding and uncovering what lies beneath the icy surface of Jupiter’s second moon, Europa.

NASA is currently planning on sending a robot probe to Europa to drill through ice for signs of life. But scientists will have to do so without contaminating ice, as Europa is widely regarded as one of the leading candidates to determine if we are alone in the universe.

In their voyage to the arctic, scientists also want to determine the source of the sulphur.

"We really want to try and understand the plumbing system for this spring and where all this sulphur is coming from," Beauchamp says. "This is a very unusual feature on the earth's surface and it's an extreme ecosystem that could be a good model for how life first begins in a harsh environment."

The Canadian Space Agency and NASA are funding the two-week expedition to the Arctic beginning June 21.


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ISDC 2006: Exploring New Worlds
By Leonard David

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posted: 28 April 2006
06:41 am ET




It is misleading to think of today’s "space program" as a single-source activity with NASA as the center of the universe. First of all, the multi-nation character of space exploration has long dethroned that notion.

In the history of space exploration, the solar system has never seen the diversity of spacecraft from various countries either now on duty at their respective targets or en route to distant destinations.

Moreover, space is also a frontier for visionary entrepreneurs—of blue-sky schemers and those people who like to tinker with tomorrow.

The 25th annual International Space Development Conference (ISDC) can be considered a landmark meeting for space, bringing together a diversity of interests that will shape the 21st century in terms of exploration, space commerce, and off-Earth settlement.

Co-sponsored by the National Space Society and The Planetary Society, ISDC is being held May 4-7 in Los Angeles, California. The conference theme is "Exploring New Worlds."

A transition moment

"This is clearly a transition moment for the world of space," said George Whitesides, Executive Director of the National Space Society. As NASA pivots toward the Moon and Mars, private entrepreneurs are proving that they can build real vehicles for tourists and cargo, he said.

Whitesides said that this year’s ISDC will be an event at which these two trends crest together—with the entrepreneurial community making a full showing among NASA leaders and scientists. "As such, it represents that transition in space today. The next phase of space development will see the intermingling of these two trends," is his forecast.

Furthermore, ISDC can be viewed as a snapshot in time; a space "happening", Whitesides explained. It is a moment in time when the world of space gathers, and that moment is held in everyone’s memory, he told SPACE.com.

ISDC will offer dozens of provocative presentations over the course of four days: From sneak previews of the next generation of spacecraft, building the space elevator, to protecting the Earth from asteroids and the needed steps required to land humans on Mars.

Along with a broad spectrum of talks by leaders in space exploration and development, ISDC will feature a children’s program for families, a space art exhibition, a special session on international lunar exploration, showings of space films, and a thirty-foot space elevator mockup.

Educated and vocal

Given the current NASA budget panic, how important is it for space advocacy groups to become educated, as well as vocal?

"ISDC will be the launch pad for the next Space Exploration Alliance Capitol Hill space blitz in June," Whitesides responded. "There will not be a single platform or agenda at ISDC and people attending will see the full range of opinion on the future of space."

On the one hand, the ISDC is useful to amplify public support for human space exploration of the Moon and Mars. But ISDC will also shine needed attention on the science cuts that NASA has been forced into, Whitesides added.

"Joining with the National Space Society to provide additional opportunity for the space-interested public to be involved is important now," explained Louis Friedman, Executive Director of The Planetary Society in Pasadena, California.

"The attack on science, perpetrated in the Administration’s 2007 budget proposal, puts the ISDC and space interest generally at a crossroads for future space exploration," Friedman told SPACE.com. "I hope we can help get us on the right path."

Gutsy entrepreneurs and adventurers

While ISDC is a meeting of the minds, it’s also a gathering of forward-thinking, gutsy entrepreneurs and adventurers.

A special Space Venturing Forum on May 4 will feature the leaders of the new world of space tourism and entrepreneurial space, such as Virgin Galactic, Space Adventures, and SpaceX. Following the Forum, a star-studded ORBIT Awards Dinner will celebrate the pioneers of personal spaceflight and mark the 5th anniversary of Dennis Tito’s historic flight – spotlighting his privately paid space trek via a Russian Soyuz booster to the International Space Station.

Over the last several years, much has happened that can be considered "Space Venturing", said David Knight, Executive Producer of the Space Venturing Forum being held at the ISDC. Knight is chief executive officer for Big Moving Pictures, Inc. of Malibu, California.

Space venturing achievements range from the achievement of suborbital flight by the SpaceShipOne team to the development of the Falcon delivery system by SpaceX, Knight advised.

"Our goal is to provide an annual forum where entrepreneurs, investors, aerospace professionals and those who dream of ‘what’s possible’ can gather and learn from each other," Knight told SPACE.com.

Knight said that ISDC provides an ideal vehicle for the expansion of the Space Venturing Forum. "We have hundreds of executives, entrepreneurs, inventors, government officials and contractors, and true pioneers of past and present advents in commercial spaceflight that are gathering in Los Angeles," he noted.

Space tourism: real and growing

Showcasing the Space Venturing Forum at ISDC is a natural and ideal fit, Knight said, given the rapidly-forming new commercial space business and marketplace.

"If you consider that we have gone from nobody heading to space for tourism and industrial opportunity, to dozens of companies building almost overnight in those markets," Knight said, "there is a significant need for a conference-event to bring all of the involved and interested parties together."

The theme of the overall ISDC is a celebration of solid progress and optimism for the future, said John Spencer, Founder and President of the Space Tourism Society (STS) in Los Angeles, California that is celebrating its 10th anniversary.

The National Space Society has partnered with the Space Tourism Society to present the 2006 ORBIT Awards Dinner on the opening night of ISDC."Our ORBIT Awards produced by Allison Dollar will push forward new participants and industries interest and involvement with space enterprise and tourism. Our awards are focused on the off-world experience and lifestyle rather than access," Spencer told SPACE.com.

"Having been involved with the space tourism movement and industry since the beginning—in the early 1980s—I have seen the evolution of a concept from start to entering into a phase where several very smart billionaires are investing millions of their own dollars into it … and the government and media takes it seriously," Spencer said. "Space enterprise and tourism is real and growing."

The ISDC represents a stellar gathering of astronauts, space entrepreneurs, scientists, and visionaries—and the welcome mat is open for all.

For more information, visit: http://www.isdc2006.com

Leonard David is a Senior Space Writer for SPACE.com and the former editor of Ad Astra, the official magazine of the National Space Society

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Did God create the universe, or did the universe create God?

We look around ourselves and think there had to have been some sort of design to all of this, and yet, our concepts of design, every frame of reference that we have are learned quantitites. Truth is, we don't know what is good engineering or bad, what perfection is and what is imperfect.

This is the only existence we have ever known. And it isn't so much perfect as a controlled chaos, neither right nor wrong, no less requiring a god to create it than a circle or a square.

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