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« on: October 18, 2008, 12:47:30 am »

Dear Baldwin Supporters,

Yet again this week Chuck Baldwin has been traveling non-stop and doing back-to-back radio, TV and newspaper interviews.

Chuck visited Indianapolis and Ohio, speaking at a few church groups and a university. Next week he heads to Washington, Oregon and Missouri. Chuck was interviewed by National Public Radio for its Weekend Edition Saturday program at 9:20 am ET (check local listings by visiting www.npr.org/wesat) and C-Span's Morning Call-In program has scheduled Chuck for a live interview October 27th.

We have been humbled by our candidate's tireless efforts as he shares the message of life, liberty and limited government with talk show hosts and voters across the country. The challenges of airline travel because of sometimes daily flights have not daunted the resolve Chuck has to 'Let The Truth Be Heard!' We'll be updating Chuck's travels and letting you know how your generosity has furthered the effort to let Americans know they DO have a choice on election day.

This past week, Darrell visited with 500 students at Anderson County High School in Tennessee. There questions regarding the economy and the Iraq war showed an interest in the issues and concern for the country from even young people, and many new voters. He had just come from being the guest speaker at the Missouri Constitution Party's first state convention.
Another interesting event was held in Kingsport, TN where Darrell was able to answer questions from the public as well as from old family friends and relatives. Considering he has over 40 nieces and nephews (including great nieces and nephews), that amounts to a considerable number of potential votes!

This week, Darrell and Joan will be in Charleston, SC; Boca Raton, FL; Chicago (to speak to 1500 Junior League women); and Kansas City, MO.

Thank you for standing with Chuck and Darrell in supporting this campaign.

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Calendar of Events
10/20/08

5:45PM

Washington State Campaign Trip

Dinner, Rally
10/21/08

6:30PM

Portland OR Rally

Speech, rally near Portland, Oregon
10/22/08

12:00PM

Grants Pass OR Campaign Trip

Luncheon/ speech
10/22/08

7:00PM

Medford Oregon Rally

Meet Chuck Baldwin in So. Oregon
10/24/08

7:00AM

Missouri Campaign Trip

Chuck Baldwin and Darrell Castle will be speaking in Kansas City, Columbia, and St. Louis
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 01:27:27 am »

We will be haveing a money bomb for Chuck Baldwin Sunday October 19th www.buckforchuck.com

all donations must be made to the official campaign website and no doantions go through www.buckforchuck.com

100% of all donations go directly the the Chuck Baldwin campaign and no funds are paid to www.revolutionbroadcasting.com or www.rtrradio.com

Don't forget about the 3rd party LIVE video debate Sunday Oct 19th 8pm EST 7pm Central time at   www.revolutionbroadcasting.com or www.rtrradio.com

Please keep bumped and help spread the word. Get the banners and put them all over the place. Thank you.
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2008, 04:01:34 am »

I am soooooo sick of hearing about Chuck Baldwin.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2008, 04:19:27 am »

Well, his timing is bad.  Baldwin is out there preaching less government, but deregulation is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2008, 04:38:43 am »

The policies of Libertarians are just more of the ones that favor the rich! 
Don't vote for them.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2008, 12:33:40 pm »

I am soooooo sick of hearing about Chuck Baldwin.

But you'd rather live in a Bilderberg fascist Corporatocracy called the North American Union and throw the Constitution and the Bill of Rights under the bus then is that what you really want ??

You want America to turn into a 3rd world country by the controlling elites of the European Banking system ??

Do you even understand how fractional reserve banking works ??

If they bring in the NAU your 13th and 19th Amendments are gone, along with everything else ever stop to think of that ??

I don't know where your head is at but you had better look into what I am saying while you still can enjoy your freedoms.

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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2008, 12:35:00 pm »

Well, his timing is bad.  Baldwin is out there preaching less government, but deregulation is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place.

WRONG !!!

It was the IMF and World Bank that got us into our current mess via fractional reserve banking.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2008, 12:36:58 pm »

The policies of Libertarians are just more of the ones that favor the rich! 
Don't vote for them.

The Libertarian party is full of ex-Republicans and has Bob Barr under Bilderberg control.

The Constitution Party is made up of mainly independents.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2008, 01:21:11 am »

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The Constitution Party is made up of mainly independents.

No, it isn't !  It is made up of a bunch of Second Amendment freaks. All ANY of the people in the Libertarian/Constitution parties want to do is smoke dope, shoot guns, not pay any taxes and probably live in the woods.

And you NEVER see them advocating for any amendments that have anything to do with women's rights. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2008, 01:22:48 am »

Well, his timing is bad.  Baldwin is out there preaching less government, but deregulation is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place.

WRONG !!!

It was the IMF and World Bank that got us into our current mess via fractional reserve banking.

No, they didn't, check your facts!  The subprime mortgage is at the root of the problem, and it never would have been allowed had the government not LOOSENED REGULATIONS!
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2008, 02:01:45 am »

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No, it isn't !  It is made up of a bunch of Second Amendment freaks. All ANY of the people in the Libertarian/Constitution parties want to do is smoke dope, shoot guns, not pay any taxes and probably live in the woods.

Smoking dope is the Libertarian Party, and is not part of the Constitution Party's platform.  Besides your hero Bill Clinton was a drug runner for the Bush family.  Under a Baldwin Administration the CIA would actually stop shipping in the drugs and end the rail-roading of minorities.  Funny how Obama never mentions this.  CIA drug running goes on with both parties.

And you NEVER see them advocating for any amendments that have anything to do with women's rights. 

...and you think that the Molech Worshiping, mock human sacrificing, gay **** watching Bilderbergers actually give a damn what American women think ??

Chuck Baldwin advocates the 19th Amendment for women as well as a 1st and 2nd to back it up should over-bearing government become present.

Obama will allow EU leaders to issue Americas' newest currency and throw the Constitution as well as the 3 branches of government right under the bus.

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Did you not learn a damned thing about the Constitution in school or were you too busy watching Sex in the City and fantasizing about how a guy in a suit will save you ??

Women being ignorant relegates them to a second class citizenship faster than the Bilderbergers could ever imagine.




Aimee Allen is in her 20s and can figure all this out.  So what is the excuse of women here...  Huh

a) too much fluoride in the water
b) too much estrogenoids in the water
c) just want a man who looks good in a suit to save them.
d) liberalism
e)  Huh Huh Huh

If there was a Sex in the City 2 featuring Aimee Allen or if she got on Oprah and Ellen is that what it would take ??

Seriously... you ladies are going to vote for someone who will ultimately betray you.

Do you think Bilderberg will fund battered women's shelters ?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

...and if you think I am being cruel just wait to see what the New World Order has in store for you.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2008, 02:08:52 am »

Quote from: Deanna Witmer
WRONG !!!

It was the IMF and World Bank that got us into our current mess via fractional reserve banking.
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No, they didn't, check your facts!  The subprime mortgage is at the root of the problem, and it never would have been allowed had the government not LOOSENED REGULATIONS!

..and who do you think allowed it to happen ??

The IMF and World Bank.

...and their solution...

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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2008, 04:09:34 am »

The World Bank has nothing to do with what we do.  Like Deanna said, the subprime mortgage crisis was started in this country, actually by legislation written by Phil Graham, McCain's chief economic adviser.

The World Bank has nothing to do with financial laws passed in this country.

Apparently, only dumb women join the Constitution Party since their "nominee" Baldwin, doesn't even support a woman's right to choose and wants to roll back Roe vs. Wade.

In other words, apparently, the Constitution Party thinks the only rights that aren't worth protecting are the right to privacy.
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2008, 04:14:16 am »

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Besides your hero Bill Clinton was a drug runner for the Bush family.

You have got to be nuts.  Is that another rumor from the Alex Jones conspiracy website?

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a) too much fluoride in the water
b) too much estrogenoids in the water
c) just want a man who looks good in a suit to save them.
d) liberalism
e)  Huh Huh Huh

If there was a Sex in the City 2 featuring Aimee Allen or if she got on Oprah and Ellen is that what it would take ??

A little projection going on here? 

Here is a new rule - until you can prove that you know something of what you're talking about, you aren't allowed to take the snotty tone here.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2008, 12:56:06 am »

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=79

IMF and World Bank: Two Instruments of National Destruction
Interview and editing by Jared Israel

An interview with Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa

The Bretton Woods Conference, referred to in the following interview, is the popular name for the United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference that took place, in 1944, at Bretton Woods vacation resort in New Hampshire. Attended by the representatives of 44 nations, it resulted in the creation of the International Monetary Fund and the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, more commonly known as the World Bank .Ed.

Chossudovsky: When an IMF mission goes into a country and requires the destruction of social and economic institutions as a condition for lending money - this is very similar to the physical destruction caused by NATO bombing. The IMF will order the closing down of hospitals, schools and factories. That's of course more cost effective than bombing those hospitals, schools and factories, as they did in Yugoslavia, but the ultimate result is very similar: the destruction of the country.

The IMF has what is called the MAI - the Multilateral Agreement on Investment. It's the ultimate investment treaty. Signing leads to the economic destruction of the targeted country. Well, really, war is simply the MAI of last resort.

Jared: What are your thoughts on the demands of the folks protesting now in Washington?

Chossudovsky: Well, lots of people have converged on Washington to protest the Bretton Woods system, the IMF and the World Bank. The question is: what are we fighting for? I suspect the dominant position among the NGOs [Non-Governmental Organizations] is still that we need to make them work for the poor and so forth. I think this approach, which developed from the "50 Years Is Enough" campaign against the Bretton Woods institutions is a mistake. And increasingly people are challenging it, questioning the legitimacy of these Washington institutions.

But still there's a lot of confusion. Some think the IMF and World Bank are playing contradictory roles, which is not so. And also there's a tendency to see these institutions in isolation. In fact they are simply two tools used by the Western elite to destroy nations, to turn them into territories.

Jared: You think some people are fooled by the World Bank?

Chossudovsky: They believe the World Bank has adopted a humane approach, that it's involved in poverty alleviation whereas the IMF creates poverty. Or they even think there's a conflict between the two. That's nonsense. The World Bank is doing essentially the same job as the IMF; it merely has different responsibilities in the Third World. In a way, it is far more dangerous precisely because [of the fact that] its supposed mandate to alleviate poverty disarms critics. The simple fact is: Wall Street is behind both these institutions. They are run by bankers not sociologists.

FREE TRADE BROTHER OF WAR

Chossudovsky: More important: a lot of people don't see the link to NATO. Very few of the organizations criticizing the Bretton Woods institutions opposed the attack on Yugoslavia. They didn't talk about it in Seattle and they aren't doing it in Washington now. They campaign against free trade, against the IMF, in favor of the Jubilee campaign to cancel third world debt, but not against war. But free trade and war go hand in hand. It was true with the British in the 19th century when they forced the Chinese to "freely" purchase opium and it is true today.

And there's a good deal of coordination between the IMF and NATO. You saw it in Kosovo. The IMF and the World Bank had set up a postwar economic plan including free market reforms well before the onset of bombing. They work together. If a country refuses IMF intervention, NATO steps in, or NATO and various covert agencies, and they create the proper conditions for IMF programs to be imposed.

Israel: Very sharp point.

Chossudovsky: The countries that accept the IMF, like Bulgaria and Romania, they may not get bombed but they are destroyed with the pen. In Bulgaria the IMF implemented the most drastic reforms, IMF medicine, which decimated social conditions - pensions slashed, factories closed, dumping of cheap finished goods, elimination of free medical care and transportation services and so on.

And it's not just NATO. We see that in Central Asia and the Caucasus. Hand in hand with the imposition of IMF and World Bank reforms and privatisation program we have not only NATO but also CIA covert intelligence operations - the institutions of war and economic management interface with one another at a global level.

So right now various countries are being softened up with regional conflicts that are financed overtly and covertly by the Western elite. The KLA is just one example of an externally financed insurgency. You see these manipulated conflicts especially wherever there are strategic pipelines, and they are linked to the drug trade and the CIA, covertly, then openly linked to NATO and official US foreign policy, and finally to the IMF, the World Bank and regional banks and private investors. Links in a chain.

Let's categorize these global institutions: you've got the United Nations system and peace keeping; they play a role and they are interfacing with NATO as well. Then you've got the IMF and the World Bank, and the regional development banks like the ADB, the Asian Development Bank, and so on. In Europe it's the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. These are the main arms.
Sometimes war creates the conditions, and then the economic institutions come in and pick up the pieces. Or conversely the IMF itself does the destabilizing, as they did in Indonesia. They insisted on cutting off transfer payments to the various states in the federation. Now that fractures a country like Indonesia which has 2,000 islands with a system of local governments. It is the geography of the bloody place. So they leave these islands to their own devices.

Do you see what that accomplishes?

Israel: In other words, they insisted on cutting money that was supposed to subsidize local government?

Chossudovsky: Yes, for example for education and so on. By doing this - and incidentally they did it in Brazil as well - they destabilize the country because in order to have a country there must be fiscal coherence, a system of fiscal transfers. So in a place like Indonesia, each of these islands becomes a small state. And of course now the idea of going it alone becomes far more attractive to the many different ethnic groups. Of course they [that is, the planners] are fully aware of this - they have made it happen time and again. It took place in Yugoslavia; it took place in Brazil; it took place in the former Soviet Union where the regions are left to their own devices because Moscow doesn't transfer any money. Potentially it could happen in the United States as well. It is guaranteed to produce a situation of conflict, internal strife.

Israel: Mutually unproductive conflict?

Chossudovsky: Yes because people are impoverished to such an extent that they start fighting.

Israel: On every basis, especially ethnic.

Chossudovsky: Incidentally in Somalia there weren't any ethnic groups, but it worked there too. You don't need a multi-ethnic society to have divisions, to have Balkanization.

Israel: And you're saying this is part and parcel of a plan for Empire?

Chossudovsky: I am saying this is recolonization, countries are transformed into territories, colonies essentially.

Israel: What distinguishes the two?

COUNTRIES VERSUS TERRITORIES

Chossudovsky: A country has a government. It has institutions. It has a budget. It has economic borders. It has customs. A territory has only a nominal government, controlled by the IMF. No schools and hospitals, as those have been closed down on orders of the World Bank. No borders because the WTO has ordered free trade. No industry or agriculture because these have been destabilized as the result of interest rates of 60% per anum and that is also the IMF program.

Israel: 60% per year?

Chossudovsky: In Brazil it's much higher. I'm looking at Botswana now. The interest rate is horrendously high.

Israel: And this is imposed by the IMF?

Chossudovsky: They put a ceiling on credit. Do you see? So people can't get bank loans; it drives interest sky high and that kills the economy. Then they open it up to free trade. So the local capitalist enterprises have to borrow at 60% from the local banks and then they have to compete with commodities from the United States or Europe where interest rates are 6 or 7%. These reforms are essentially aimed at destroying local capitalism.

Israel: So how do we fight this?

Chossudovsky: Not with a single-issue movement. We can't focus solely on the Bretton Woods institutions, or the WTO, or environmental issues or genetic engineering; we have to look at the totality of relations. When we look at the totality we see the link to the use of force. Beneath this economic system lie the undercover features of the capitalist order: the military-industrial complex, the intelligence apparatus and the links to organized crime including the use of narcotics to finance conflicts aimed at opening nations to Western control.

We have gone from gunboat diplomacy to missile diplomacy. In fact it is not missile diplomacy. It is sheer bombing.

Israel: You said that part of the military intelligence apparatus is gangsters. I know that you have been writing material about how drugs is actually an economically powerful force.

Chossudovsky: Well it is more complicated than that. Because in fact the gangsters are the instruments of big capital. They are not - they don't overshadow the system in any way. The gangsters are people who can be easily used precisely because they are not responsible to anybody. So it is much more convenient.

Let's say you install Hacim Thaci [leader of the Kosovo Liberation Army] in the seat of government in Kosovo. It's much more convenient to have a gangster like this running a country than to have an elected prime minister that is responsible to citizens.

The best thing is to have an elected gangster, somebody like Boris Yeltsin, that's the best - get an elected gangster. We have elected gangsters in the US as well.

Why? Because elected gangsters are much easier to control than elected non-gangsters. But we must understand these gangsters are pretty obviously subordinate - when we say it is the criminalization of the colony, it is not true. It's the other way around. You are never going to have a situation where these gangsters will be given any power. The big ones perhaps... So there is a certain interpenetration of legal and illicit trade. But in effect illicit trade is always subordinate to large scale financial and business undertakings.

An important aspect of this is that the IMF creates the conditions for the growth of illicit trade and for the laundering of dirty money, all over the world. That is very clear because when legal economies collapse under the brunt of IMF reforms what are you left with? It's the grey economy; it's the criminal economy.

Israel: And that encourages the development of forces that can be used to replace potentially responsible legal forces.

Chossudovsky: Yes and that type of collapse in legal economic systems also creates the conditions for developing insurgencies, destabilizing elected governments, closing down of institutions and transforming countries into territories which are then run as colonies.
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