Message #103426

[BlueHue]

( Part-of-)Titiea's Theory for CONFERENCE in ATHENS:
ATLANTIDA
comes from the same origin as Italos. In Etruscan  (V)italos, became Vitellius, in Latin means a calf. Thus  Atlas means "son of the Bull" which is cognomen or Throne-name of the Egyptian ruler of the 17th dynasty Kamose "the one generated by a bull".
In my opinion  Kamose was reared in Napata spend 40 years of his life reigning on the Kingdom of Kush from Meroe, too little archaelogical proofs of that,
 I even  suggest to recognize old Kamose reigning as Thutmose Ist on Egypt. But this is another story which should be debated in another thread.

Dear. . . . . .   TITIEA,

I beg for your pardon, that I need to disagree with your above findings:
would you please correct your above- wrong - statements!

  Atlantis  -  Atlan-tida  -  Atlantia  -  Atlantidis,  is misspelled 
a Latin mis-spelling from a lost Greek original geo-name;Ad-/ ATHE
it is read as LATIN( like Yehovah.)but it should be read as Greek: THUS,
  ATHA-RAS really means  KING of ATHE -not-' Son of Bull'.
ATHARAS or ATHETA- LAND is the Land of ADEN on the TETHYS- SEA(= the GULF-of- Aden.)not in the " Atlantic".)

KAMOSE-OFF HAND,
Sesostris or SENUSRET or SENWORSET etc.can't be Kamose under a different name because:
Sesostris-1, was originally THUTMOSE-1 who was a GRAND- SON of KAMOSE
   I say that KAMOSE died - very young- at age 35,
You say that he reigned 40 years and died, maybe at age 60 ?!)
 :'(so You will have to ALTER THAT part of your 'Theory'

 PILLARS of Hercules are at BAB-el- MANDAB,
" PILLARS" is the HINDU- Word for WHITE ELEPHANT
PILLARS is -ofcourse- an INFLEXION, in the word " WHITE- ELEPHANT CITY" it reads as PULASTYA
or HASTINA- PURA In time " PILLAS became PILLARS " and got a different meaning This is fact not fiction.

My dissident discovery is that KAMOSE might have been indeed a" Son of something" of Ra and, LATER CALLED " Ramoses"
as-strong-as a  BULL but that originally meant  an ELEPHANT- BULL
(which fact was OBSCURED, by the LATER demonisation of the Elephant( in 855 bc. by assyrian "King/God": Salmanasser-3)

ICONOGRAPHY of ' ATLANTIS" was a winged" Sun" Disk( originally the Night Sun" Moon" )
originally supported by two Elephants( after demonisation by two Ramheadded men.)
Clearly these TWO Elephants were alluded to, as the socalled " PILLARS"
of Hercules that carried the Sky at " Atlantis/ Poseidonis "capital.

RENMENTS of Elephant worship in Egypt
the Pharaoh's and especially the Caracter of ( Re- )MIN ( as an antropomorf standing Elephant.)still wears an
( elongated) Elephant -Tail hanging as a( Red-)Lint from the Feathered-CROWN at the back
Kamose introduced the new worship of RE- AMUN or YE-MEN as you so elegantly put it.

ATLANTIS means White terror
 in Plato's Atlantis refering to the
Spartan occupation of ATHENS ( dd 405-379 bc.)
inn Hindi it just means " White-LAND" or even "White- Palace" as (P-)Atala-Pura.)

Your Etymology Find of Atala /Italos/ Vitelliusis quite clever but as an ADDENDUM,
I apply the common fact that the Arabians intyerchange the original latin- R , for an arabian  L

FORINSTANCE: the Lands of HAVILA where the " Eating of the " Gold" (= Saffran- Sativus.)is good
this land is surrounded by the River PISON.

In Greek, the land of SOUTH- Araby is called teh KNOWN- Land.
As we know the KNOWN- Land is surrounded by the RIVER- OKEANOS
or rather The " World-Ocean" also called :"World Sea "or MID- World/Earth- Sea.
A GULF( of ADEN or The wandering-Tribe of :" DAN ">)is PONTOS or pontus in greek & Latin

GULF(of Aden.)is PONTOS (>> Son of Oceanos.)
Here we seen that " PONTOS" is also called PISON(= Surrounding- River")and as MARE- Erytraea-um is also called the
( Known-)WORLD- Sea or RedSea with the GULF as a PORTHOLE/ PORTAL/
 Sea-lane or Sea- Strait from the INDIAN Ocean to the Red- Sea

ODYSSEUS 's-Odysee-Route went through the RED- SEA
This RED- SEA is called the GREEN- Sea by the Egyptians
and the World- surrounding Sea by the Punicians

Where was ATLANTIS/ (E-)Scheria ?
The Same coastal names that are listed by Herodotus for the ODYSEE in the Media-terran-Nean- SEA,
also appear at the Red-Sea-coast thus the Term" Wine- dark-World-Sea " and RED- Sea"are identical.
The ESCHERIA, of Odysseus that has somuch in common with Atlantis is today: RAS- ADEN/ CRATER
on any ancient map or the " PERIPLUS" MARE ERTRAEUM" ADEN is listed as ESCHERIA and as Hadramaut.

FORGOTTEN Alternative names for ARABY:
Araby is HAVILA(= HYPEREA.) HYPERIA / Hyria, is also the LAND of the GOD- AMUN in hiss form as " MIN"
hence " YE- MEN or IO-MAN" means the Land of AMUN( like in BEN- JAMIN( =Today: Ras- Aden/ Poseidon
israel or AZRA-EL means the CHEEM or " Burned" Land of Amun
the false association of Aden with Hades and the Hell of Fire(= Flashing colour of Oricalchum not real Fire.)

SAME NAME ? even as a Homonym,
may have a different meaning in another Science-diciplin.
a problem of Greek INFLEXIONS !I
"ISLE "may mean NESSOS but as A PELAGOUS it is a " RIVAGE" or Coastal REGION.
THUS " The Isle-of Atlantis and the Isle ofMeroe means a Table-mountain
 land NOT, a WATER- ISLE.


DANAKIL- Depression
was the original" Strait-of The " PILLARS"( of Hercules.)
At the now LAND- Filled- Sea-Outlett, of the AWASH- River was also the
 blocked-up Sea- Mouth of the  ancient Blue- Nile
( Diverted in 869 bc, by King SANHERIB in trying to dry-up the Nile Water-Supply  .)

At the AFAR- TRIANGLE or DANAKIL,
are dried-up Mud-volcano-Brines tyhat each could pose for Plato's Atlantis description
This is DANA-KIL country: a raised" Depression" that was a Former Sea-lane
where a Classical Scholar only sees a " Flat- Plain" surrounded by low mountains !

GEOLOGICAL- Engineer STAN- DEYO from Berkeley Univ. calif.
 proposed the ESTUARY of TADJURA in DJIBUTI
as the original Atlantis , Sir Ranulph FIENNES in 1992, by sidescan radar, did the same for SHALLALA in DHOFAR/ Oman.)
With a Side-radar- Scan of the DELTA of TADJURA-BAY he tried to prove in a manar a-la-Robert Sharmast
that the FLOOR of the AWASH- Estuary was the original " PLAIN -f- Atlantis"submerged by the
ice age SEA-LEVEL Eustacy in 10.000 bc.

But we know now,
 thanks to the unitended help from " GEORGEOS" for certain
that :
 ATLANTIS was Not and ISLE and NOT in the Atlantic-Ocean.

The Egyptians(=as iranian- HYKSOS.)
had originally come from south-ARABY
that they revered as " MEDAN or MIDIAN "or MAGAN where the MAGAS lived

" Question of: TWO, or THREE Egypts"
in the Unification of the TWO egypts the THIRD Egypt is forgotten
thus Araby The LAND of teh SOUTH" WHITE- WALL "( Araby means White.)
was formerly called the THIRD- Egypt

 ARABY was Egyptian Frankincense territory
but because this was a Bone of contention between EGYPT and ASSUR
 the ownership and the term" LAND of the MIDDLE " or CATHAY/Ketura- CAPHTOR
 was soon forgotten.

MANUSCHEVIC" ISRAEL" was Atlantis
But he did not do his " homework" well
The books of  Prof Kamal- Salibi ( 1984)and Dr Velikovsky( 1949.)
proves that the Jews did not want to go back to the original "Lands of israel"
because the artificial Garden of HYPERIA/ Hesperis was derelect and
they didn't want to change from Persian-civil servants to" Paradise"-Farmers !

PALESTINE=( White-)' Elephant Land '
So they colonized the  present land of " PAlestine" which was relatively free of War dammage
The List of YOSHUA- 4-6 is different from the later List of EZEKIEL/ Hezakaia.
Yet the Bible Exodus is a full description of RAS- ADEN- CRATER as the city of KAMOSE
CARCHEMISH !/ KARKEMOSH ) and later as KARKAR /KADESH or:" JERUSALEM in the SKY(=" Hesper-is")
Atlantis and CANAAN are identical but All Atlantologist are fooled by the Strange Geo-Names for it !

The futile-target-efforts of the MAINSTREAM atlantologists
are still limping on PLATO's corrupted falshly translated Latin textus- receptus.
thwey hate to admit that they are barking up the wrong tree, (based on denied translation errors.)

CIRCUMSTANTIAL- Evidence "? Land of HATTI,
I have discovered thanks to " GEORGEOS" translations, and JULIA's Help,
(and ' ATALANTE" actually FINDING a quotation of the 'Mare-Erytraeum 'as the Sea of PONTOS ".)
that Atlantis was NOT an ISLE and that the original name though" LAND of HATTI"
TRANSPIRED in history as" Ad- LAND " Sri-Lanka and CRETE.
EUROPA( and Later America.) was the NEW- Atlantis and THUS
could not have been ANCIENT- Atlantis !

STILL at both Atlantis conferences in MELOS & ATHENS the Mainstream Atlantologists
are not in concordance with eachother about the dissident Theory of " BlueHue "

Yet some do agree with my Views of
900 bc instead of 9.000( Before' SOLON".)
" GEORGEOS" has made a show of debunking the theory of others that claim America or the AZORES
or even Sicilly as the original ISLAND, he himself proposed a Promotory at CADIZ as the GARDEN/ GAD- of Hesperis
and to THROW others off his scent told an obvious- FIB about a MUD- SHOAL called SPARTELL

TITIEA names MEROE another ancient (River-Volcano.)
as the Place, but Meroe was formerly called Ancient SABA(= Thebes.)
from Which King KAMOSEfounded a NEW-Thebes, and  took EGYPT & MISER & South Araby aswell
(making his 'Hyksos'-Brother King DANAUS verry worried about 'brotherly' intentions.)
TITIEA made a tiny mistake that she has not corrected: or confirmed as standing corrected to me.
" MEROE " is not a GIRLS name but a persian MALE name( Son of King Cambysos in 525 bc.)

Atlantis-problem is in the wrong translations
In the same mistakenly manner Atlantis was NOT an ISLAND
But I may aswell shout in the Desert.
I found ADEN as Atlantis/ Ad-land/ Eden in 2005( pretty 'late' heh?!)
ANYWAY I hope to receive the Third Atlantis CONFERENCE( YMCA-lodgings!)
not in Greece but in my Home- Town University of DELFT in Holland !or by Video-Conferencing !
asof yet the Faculty of " Studium- Generale" considders" Atlantis" as an unimportend " New-Wave escapism"

CONCLUSION,

' FINDING- ATLANTIS   '
needs several diciplines: that are all too easily OVERLOOKED:linguistics(>'Georgeos'.)and
A VULCANOLOGIST is ususally NOT " Consulted " as unrelated to the case,
but recognizes Atlantis as a Volcano-Core/ Caldeira with a Central mount in a Volcanic-Lake.
Filmcompanies that invest in mini-Sub- Marines to "Find Atlantis" are the real Hoaxers !

The " DYSNEY- CARTOON" Picture on Atlantis in ICELAND"
is one of sheer Sirendippity !(= 'Elephant shrewedness'.)
the main character bases his "FIND" on leaving out ONE letter in the recorded
'ancient' legend of Atlantis in IRELAND: his" R " were an " C " thus" ICELAND "

-common-ERRORS occur:
But in  reality it is a common ERROR that is also possible ,
Atlantis was NOT larger (= MEIZON.)
than ASIA (= Araby !)& Lybia(= Ethiopia !)
but was " MID-WAY- IN- Between"(= MESON.)
and that is precisely where Ras Aden Crater is:
 in the EXTREME - WEST-ern Part of the known World of ARABY !

ATLANTIS (-10-) Partitions ?
Sure " Atlantis was partitioned in SEVEN to NINE ISLANDS"
but these were NOT islands but( 9-River-) DISTRICTS(= Pelagous as well.)
The Story of SNOWWHITE and the SEVEN Dwarfs over teh SEVEN Mountains
is an oral (PONDICHERRY-)variation from Hindu- Myth about the Queen of Atlantis: LEUCOTHEA(= " Snowwhite")

DAMMAGE  DISCLAIMER:
I apollogize for any unintened dammages that may occur in Publicizing my dissident Theory.
I am presently under " indiana Jones Hermocrates ' Riddicule "
In the EVENT, that, when " BlueHues"s dissident Theory' becomes the mainstream,
the other ' Scientific" Atlantologists won't hate me too much for that!

Sincerely, " BlueHue "     
dd . 22 Sept - 2008
PS. for media-shortness: read & comment on my subscript!