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« on: August 11, 2008, 02:38:56 am »

1953 cont.

The Amazons, P. Hoffman


The Amazons were found on both sides of the Ocean at a remote time and had stories about them in both Old and the New World. Diodorus Siculus writes about a part they played in the history of Atlantis under the leadership of Queen Myrina (Mer-Ani?), while several authors place them with an Island in the Atlantic. Apart from Ogygia, the island of Calypso, daughter of Atlas in Odyssey, and Celtic story of Tir-na-m-Ingen, 'The Land of Virgins' there is two others not well known. Qazwini the Arab chronicler says: "The city of the women, is a great town in an island in the Sea towards the West. (There follows a description of how their children were fathered by slaves)…the city of women is a fact about which there is no doubt."

Edrisi the Geographer writes: "In the sea of darkness (The Atlantic) there are many uninhabited islands. There are however two, named the islands of the heathen Amazons, one of which is populated by women only."

German Scientist Professor R. Hennig of Dusseldorf answered a question of how women became Amazons, in his work, "Wo lag das Paradies": "Apart from the Atlantean Empire, where we may feel confident that any race of fighting women were but remnants of migrations from the Atlantean Islands, the only major occurrence of this strange fact is in the Far East, where until recently, women lived separately on certain islands and the men on others, to meet only for a few weeks in the year. This state of affairs was upheld in order to limit the population of the island which could only supply a certain limited quantity of food."

Is it not probable that the cause of the Atlantean Amazons was not the same. According to Zimmer, there exist celtic memories of an island in the Atlantic in which men lived, apart from the Island of Virgins. Through long periods of history we hear of the Atlanteans fighting for lebensraum, which may have been due to migration waves following successive submersions of portions of the island, as recorded by Timaeus (cf Donnelly and Spence) or to the rising tides as Luna drew near to the Earth. The present writer feels that both explanations are probably right. The date of 12,000 B.C. as given by Bellamy for the submergence of the greater part of Atlantis is probably right while that given by Kamienski in Atlantis Vol.4, No. 5, would link up the final submersion of Posedonius with the visit of Halley's Comet, which is about the time given by Plato. As has been pointed out elsewhere, the Atlanteans fought each other in places where migrants settled. So to the Greek Myths of the avoiding of conception is not accidental due to population issues in small areas. True in latter dates the Amazons started to change policy and issued more children, but retained the custom longer then was necessary.

Note by Editor: Calypso's isle of Ogygia is noted by Plutarch: "De Facie in Orbe Lunae," and by Lycophoron. The Eleusian Mysteries were called the Ogygiades. The best known King Ogyges was the Son of Neptune and Alistra, and the father of Eleusis by Daeria, or, alternatively (Graves) the father of Daeira, the High Priestess of Eleusis. There was a Deluge in his reign, of which there are two versions (Boetia and Attica). The time was marked by an uncommon appearance in the heavens according to Varro.

Webmasters Note: The Ogyg is the root form of his name related to Magog Gog giant names later, and it has goat name also of Agygia since the Cyclops did have sheep. Then Giades and Cadiz end of the mysteries cult name shows the Spanish name of a region, and a vague term for a Horse. The Iades within that word has the Hades, or Ha Hati term of the Underworld and Isis and Nephthys Goddesses. We can outline now:

Giant, Islands, or Lands, Sea Horse-Goat i.e. Capricorn Age, Cathonic Goddess Priestess Temples, and mining race. The Eleusis involved the Horus, Osiris and Isis group but with a Western Isles emphasis. The Alistra name involved the Ara-Star Constellation and Neptune refers to this seat and altar under the sea. The uncommon appearance occurred with a close encounter, or encounter of a celestial body when not one but 3-5 comets appeared in the sky at around 11,000 B.C. or earlier.

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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2008, 02:39:38 am »

1953 cont.

Where Calypso may have lived, By Egerton Sykes (a summary)


The Azores when Prince Henry the Navigator (Portuguese explorer a descendant of England's own John Gaunt) ordered the expedition in the 15th Century were found to be uninhabited. According to Legend Prince Henry was in possession of an Ancient Map upon which the position of the Islands was marked, and overlooked the significance of this map for previous Trans-Atlantic contacts before Columbus. The only evidence of Human Habitation when he arrived was a Bronze Statue Equestrian who was pointing on a Horse towards America on the Island of Corvo. Some 250 years later, small hoard of Cathegenian coins was found, dating back to the 3rd Century B.C., and was described by the Swedish Archaeologist, Podolin. The presence of the coins established the fact that this island of Corvo was a trade center as far back as that date. Unfortunately, the statue and coins are missing, one lost to sea, and the other unknown to who the collector was. Humboldt mentions a cave on one side of the Island that first explorers found several inscriptions, and two or three statues. The writing was thought to be Hebrew only because they could not read it, but is very likely was Lybian-Punic, or Phoenician. The traces of the Caves location has also been lost all of, which can maybe traced in accounts in some Portuguese Library. The mythical Irish Maeldune, who visited the Islands in search of the slayer of his father, mentions an Island where a horde of Giant Ants as large as foals waited to seize the crew of his ships. Today these very rocks are called in the Azores, the Formigas or Ants? Maeldune reported landing on an Island where he saw, "A vast multitude of people on the sea, rushing along the crests of the waves with great outcry. As soon as they landed, they went to the green where they arranged a horse race." Since no less than eight of the nine coins found on Corvo had horses. Long before that, Statius Sebosus said the Azores were 6,000 Stades (750 miles) West of Maderia, and named two of the Islands Pluvalia, and Capraria, a fact well known to compilers of guides to navigators. Homer's reference to Calypso's Isle, 20 days sail from the islands of the Phaecians (The West Indies) obviously refers to the Azores. The Egyptians 1,500 B.C. had passed by the Azores, but is there earlier evidence of the land once being larger and inhabited?

The Swedish Scientist, Prof. Petterson, says that the Mid-Atlantic Ridge was still above water fifteen thousand years ago. The fact that Santa Maria, the first island to be colonized again, is not volcanic tends to disprove the theories that the Islands were thrown up by volcanic action alone.

Webmaster Notes:

The islands the Greeks noted is broken up as Pluval-ia, and Caprar-ia which Pluval is the Latin equivalent of praefui, or as an adjective form Praesens i.e. present and in person. Also, refers to a safe harbor indirectly with praesidium name, which recalls Posidium. The other angle is proveho, to carry forward or sail onward in latin, and lastly profluo or to flow forth to rise. This indicates that the Pluval-ia is an island that maybe-volcanic active, or rises high and that some Egyptian Pharaoh's name had marked it as his own. The Caprar Island almost has the Calypso name, or Caply-so.

Latin Capere means take, or seize, and Caprae is for a 'goat'.

In Egyptian however Khepri is a magical serpents with human heads and wings in Taut XI

And is the name of Kheprer for the self-begotten sun beetle itself a form of Ra.

It is also a name for the spring period and the Zodiac sign of Cancer being the

opposite of Capricorn like Tropic of Cancer had replaced? The Islands may still yield

their original names yet!

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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 02:40:31 am »

1953 cont.

The 'Lost Atlantis' of G. I. Bryant, By Egerton Sykes


This is based on the outline of the manuscript works salvaged after Bryant's home was destroyed in the Middle East during WW2, which E. Sykes recovered.

The work is focused primarily on not occult, but Plato period sources. Solon of 569 B.C. spoke to priests Sonchis, of the Temple of Neith in Sais, and Psenuphis Priest of Ra at Heliopolis. They both speak of Neith and Athena as the same goddess between Greece and Egypt. Egypt's 'Nth' and Greek's 'Thn' had bow and arrow in one goddess's hand and the other goddess had a shield and spear. Athens City was founded thousands of years before Sais was in Egypt according to the priests. The Greek Legend of Athena according to the Greek Mythology came from Libya around the Lake Tritonis area along with the Poseidon Myths. The Atlanteans conquered Egypt, and the Middle East by Sea invasion like the Greek invasion. The statement to Solon from Priest Sonchis that ", for in those days (c. 9,600 B.C.) the Atlantic was navigable", and implies that in Sonchis days (569 B.C.) the Atlantic as according to the Phoenicians was poorly navigable because of the weeds (Field of Reeds), and shallows as related to the Sargasso Sea and just outside of the Straits of Gibraltar. The Island was described as larger then Libya and Asia (or their known world) i.e. North Africa to Egypt to the lands of Persia and southward to almost Ethiopia, or Congo. It is clear the description refers to just outside and not far from the Straits (described as a harbor in the Straits immediately across from Atlantis) with another adjacent continent beyond that of Atlantis, called modernly America. Thus, the Egyptians and the Greeks knew of this around 9,600 B.C.. One could think it refers to the other 'outer' islands as Cape Verde, Maderia, or Canaries and included across Lake Tritonis (Minor) in the Sahara. But, America is more preferred. The places the Atlanteans conquered included the region of the Berbers (often thought to be descendants from them)original inhabitants of North-West Africa and beyond Europe they took Tyrrhenia kingdom as well. They Berbers as considered white in color are at first glance not quite the Guanches of Canaries ancient people, but there is a tale they were once more white then their reddish bronze color later formed. In regards to Tyrrhenia, Montaigne considered this historical name was related to present day Tuscany, and implied the Caribs in the West Indies on the American side maybe relatives to the Guanches in the Canaries. Webmaster note-"Some Caribs were noted with Blue Eyes before Columbus arrival to the New World as well as the Caloosa of Southern Florida in Ponce De Leon's day." There are ancient seaports South of the Atlas Mountains in Morocco and Algeria. Thus, the territories of Mauretania, Numidia, Tunis, Tripoli, Braca and Libya proper as far east as the Libyan Oases had fallen in Atlantean hands. By 9,600 B.C. the Atlantean control became a monstrous octopus, its body formed the lost island and the tentacles reaching northwards to England's Lost land of Lyonesse in the due south west of Britain beyond Cornwall. South as far as the Sargasso Sea; east into the Mediterranean on both north and south shores including the Balearic islands, Sardinia, and the Maltese archipelago; and west towards Florida, Central America, and North West Brazil. They may have controlled parts of the N. American Seaboard, and in Louisiana region southern states. Geology teaches us that at one time the Yucatan had a land bridge stretching from Cuba and Carribean islands which formed

A solid arc into Venezuela enclosing a fertile land. Le Plongeon 50 years before was coming to a conclusion simaler to this. (Webmaster Note)-The recent find off the coast of Cuba of a series of Walls and a city may confirm this bridge was partially intact around the 2,500 to 10,000 B.C. period. Le Plongeon also called the area beyond the Yucatan as the Maya Kingdom of Mu not to be confused with Lemuria, for it is more not just a Pacific influence by name but the 'Water' of Life by reference which the Egyptians borrowed as Mu-Ankh. The 'Water of Life' and its great stag or female deer's kingdom was about the grazing in those lands by the creature before it lost its land bridge. The outline of a Great Deer is noted with the Stag Horns as the Gulf of Mexico, and the Island Caribbean curvature as its hindquarter with its head facing Yucatan, and down to Honduras. The reason it is called, Yucatan is because it refers to female deer's weeping over the lost stag's kingdom to the Caribbean Sea. This is the mystery that is deepened when prehistoric stag deer's with that great of a horn (Gulf of Mexico) disappeared some 10,000 years ago or more!

Chapter Two-

In referance to the Atlanteans fighting Athens in first a indecisive sea battle, were finally defeated by the Greeks in a land battle. The Greeks then went freed people in other lands from the Atlanteans this according to Sonchis in Sais, Egypt. In a work now lost, by Marcus Terentius Varro, a distinguished Roman writer, tells of a naval battle which once occurred off Sardinia. In this battle, the Guanches in the Canary Islands defeated Phorcys, King of Sardinia. Might there perhaps be some confusion of the Guanches with the men of Carthage, who indeed conquer Sardinia and were its masters until expelled by the Romans? It is difficult to decide whether this engagement off this Island was not really one of the events in the last invasion of Europe by the Atlanteans. Mummies were practiced in the Canaries and very similar to the Egyptians (webmaster note-and had some characteristics of the Coastal Peru-Chile 9,000 B.C. complex in recent finds) along its shores and caves. Thus a link existed between the Egyptians, Guanches of the Canaries, and the Peruvians halfway across the globe. (Webmaster Note- There is some evidence that the Gobi Desert beyond Armenia may yet yield mummies if it was even a Noahetic practice by a Basque like culture?) Le Plongeon in his atlantis book noted the sandals on the Chicheu Itza Statue is the same as the ones found on the Gaunches mummies feet? In regards to the Guanches, Aelian

Tells us that Theopomos of chios related that once ten million of them, coming from a city called 'Machimos' or (The Warlike, or Match-Mes like the word Mismatch), descended suddenly onto Europe. They first went to the north but, perhaps dissatisfied with the climate, they then made their way south, gradually overrunning the coasts and Mediterranean. We are not sure the Guanches are the actual atlanteans with their reddish gold color (metallic interests). There may also be some error in the machimos name for it is a Greek adaptation of the older name, and the source of Theopompos

Is still unknown. But, he does refer to creatures in this atlantis that can be no less elephants. No where do other records exist about the Balaeric, Corsica, Sicily, and Maltese Islands that tell about this invasion and conquest. M. Gattefosse has assured us that Malta contains remains of an atlantean character, and if 'Cyclopian' be the same as Atlantean, then he is correct. These islands have always been a very old stopping ground in maritime trade and have showed most of the successive influences. Le Plongeon is still considered the oldest theorist on the Egyptian and Mayan connection to Atlantis. The Troano Codex, a copy is in the madrid museum, was discovered by Brasseur de Bourbourg in Spain in the possession of Don Juan Tro Y Ortelano, then professor of Paleography in Madrid. Brasseur was struck by the similarities of the hieroglyphs on the strip of bark, 14 feet and 9 inches, and those on the Mayan monuments of Copan and Palenque in Central America, and assumed it to be the Mayan record of the sinking of the land of MU, which must refer to the sinking of Atlantis. Le Plongeon's rendering of the Troano Codex runs as follows: "The Year…on the eleventh Muluc in the Month of Zuc, there occurred a terrible earthquakes which continued without intermission the thriteenth Chuen. The country of the hills of mud, the Land of Mu, was sacrificed. Being twice upheaved, it suddenly disappeared during the night, the basin being continually shaken by volcanic forces. Being confined, these caused the land to sink and rise several times and in various places. At last the surface gave way and the ten countries were torn asunder and scattered in fragments: unable to withstand the force of the convulsions, they sank with their sixty four million inhabitants, eight thousand and sixty years before the writing of this book."

Webmaster note- The date of writing the book since our Mayans begin recording on a large scale at 1,000 B.C. (if this was correct) would be 9,060 B.C., yet Plato says 9,600 B.C. with 540 years difference we may have to take back to the Mayas account. 1,540 B.C. marks the period when that book story was first written and lands in a period when the Hyksos began to invade Egypt. This does not finish the problem of the deluge 2,000 years further back Cayce claims at 11,600 B.C., which would put this Mayan work at 3,540 B.C. before the 1st Dynasty of Egypt. It would seem the earthquakes lasted 7 and a half months ending in the early summer and the memory is preserved indirectly in a word in Egypt of Sekhet as 'Field', and Kuon or 'Dog' for month terminology names? There is however the Muluc Month which is a Milky Way name, and is it possible that the real word connection is Ochuen, or Ochema Seku or Zuc i.e. Egyptian for 'The Big Dipper', and Bear Polar Constellation on the Milky Way preserved in month names? If this is the case they are implying a Pole Movement observed?

Paul Schliemann stated that in one of the Tibetan temples of Llasa there existed a record, which stated:

"When the Star Bal fell on the place where there is now only sea and sky, the Seven Cities with their Golden Gates and Transparent Temples quivered and shook like the leaves in a storm. And, behold a flood of fire and smoke arose from the palaces. Agony and cries the multitude filled the air. They sought refuge in their temples and citadels. And the wise Mu, the hieratic of Ra-Mu, arose and said to them: "Did I not predict all this?" And the women and the men in their precious stones and shinning garments lamented: "Mu, save us." And Mu replied: "You shall die together with slaves and your riches, and from your ashes shall arise new nations. If they forgot that they are superior not because of what they put on but of what they put out, the same lot will befall them." Flame and smoke choked the words of Mu. The land and its inhabitants was torn to pieces and swallowed by the depths. Though not directly referred to as Atlantis, the story may have been added or taken from via survivors who moved past Egypt and became incorporated. This may explain Plato's description of Atlantis's left over mud, and since the Atlantic is oscillating at its depths future generations may see it rise again. It is another mystery why Carthage Sea ports is not mentioned by the Egyptians to Solon which appeared around 869 B.C.. Yet Herodotus in his whole nine books does not mention Rome. The Egyptian Priest to Solon mentions not one but many time's great floods have occurred in the nine thousand years.

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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2008, 02:41:33 am »

1954

Lost Atlantis-part 3 cont. Bryant, By E. Sykes


In Solon story, we reach the point of where the Younger Critias says: "Yet, before proceeding further with the narration, I ought to warn you (his Athenian audience) that you should not be surprised if you hear Hellenic names given to foreigners. I will give you the reason for this. Solon, who planned a poem of this story, made an inquiry into meaning of the names given him and learned that the early Egyptians in writing them down (in hieratic or in hieroglyphs) had translated them into their own language and he, Solon, recovered the meaning of the several names ( that is , in Atlantean, shewing therefore that at that early epoch of the world's history proper or surnames were given to persons, places and perhaps to things in general on account of some characteristic action, habit, quality or environment) and re-translated them and copied them over again in our language (Archaic Attic Greek-which was still in use at the time of Solon, according to Taylor. My great-grandfather Dropidas had the original writing (Solon's manuscript) which is still in my possession (470-400 B.C.) and was carefully studied by me when a child." The processes of translation, re-translation and transcription thus involved must have been complicated and unwieldy. Noted before the Greeks received Poseidon religion from Libyans. R. Brown asserts etymological grounds Poseidon is to be equated to Noah. Bellamy translates Poseidon by "the one who surges along". It is to be regretted that the original Atlantean names, proper and otherwise, recorded by the Egyptian Priests were not simply transliterated into hieratic

or hieroglyphic writing. "Therefore," Critias continues, "if you (Socrates and his fellow-listeners) hear names such as are used in this country, you must not be surprised, for I have told you the reason." The layering of the mythic quality in Greek would be its own primitive history, with only portions to the actual atlantean meanings or names. Critias the Younger continues about Poseidon having a part of Atlantis and having a mortal woman for a wife beget children, his father was Kronos who destroys Poseidon in a metaphorical sense i.e. destroyed all of Poseidon's Kingdom. In addition of his dominion over all the seas, oceans, and water elsewhere. So, all destruction's of tidal and flooding onto lands and islands has been attributed to Poseidon's lost domain. Hellenic proper name is Po-Seidon, as possibly Asiatic origin, being related to Phi-Sheidon, the Mouth of Sidon, the famous seaport of the earliest Phoenicians, a city traced back to 2,700 B.C. His wife Amphi-Trite, the female symbol or triton, or in other terms, the first Merwoman, or Queen of the Mermaids referred to in fairy mythology. She was daughter of Oceanus, which seals (animal) was very prolific in symbolism in Mediterranean area with the Phocea-'seals' Coins, the city borrowed the Phoca name Greek for 'Seals'. The Lake Tritons, or Seals formed enormous gulf separating the island- or perhaps the peninsula- or North West Africa from Libya and Western Egypt.

The likeness of seals and humans brought about the mythology of mermaids. This implies ancient sea-faring traders, and harpooners made up coastal Atlantis. Critias continues that on that island's side toward the sea was a great plain, which near the center of Island at five miles inward were not very large mountains. On this mountain dwelt a earth born primeval men of that land, whose name was Evenor or Euanor. He had a wife named Leucippe and only child was Cleito. These are names given as the oldest Attic Greek names to atlanteans, or aboriginal people of Atlantis. Breaking through Greek translations of Atlantean name meanings (not just words) Evanor or Euanor, can be constructed as 'the Man of God' like Adam. In primeval Atlantean aboriginal language, we find the root Hu, a very ancient Cymric or Cimmerian concept of deity, showing that this particular name for God was carried from the south-west of the globe almost due east by migration: in vastly later ages the name Hu seems to have been carried to the British Isles by the ancestors to the Druids and figures prominently in the most ancient legends. In a Cymric legend of the Deluge, which was caused by the Addanc, a mythical monster, making the Lake of Waters (Llyon Lion) overflow, it was Hu Gaderam whose oxen dragged the monster from the waters and stopped the disaster. It was from this Deluge that Dwy Van and Dwy Vach escaped in the Neyydd Nav Neivon, the Celtic Ark. The Addanc appears to be similar to the Punic Hayagriva. Hu Gaderan may actually have been a pre-Celtic culture hero. The Triads refer to him as "A Bull dwelling in a sacred stall". The name of the first Atlantean Woman, Luecippe, can be rendered english as a 'the luminous mare'. A nymph named Leuce appears as one of the numerous oceanides or priestess of oceanus, and hence related to Amphitrite, or the wife of Poseidon. This of course reminds us of sea-horses and we know from Greek mythology that the horse was first produced by Poseidon's striking the earth with his trident during his dispute with Athene, his niece, as to who should name the newly-formed settlement that was the capital of Cecropia. She in turn produced the olive-tree and thus and thus gained the victory, and her name was given to the city. All this may refer to a religious or other quarrel in which land and water symbolise the opposing factors and the defeated, having to flee to their galleys, leave their cavalry behind. This suggests that the Atlanteans may have introduced the horse into Europe. It is likely that Atlantis was the original place for the horse which at that time the region called Barbary, or North West Africa, was the most easterly geographical division. Cleito, or Clito, which no son occurs in the Atlantean Trinity, has many prefixes in several names of persons and places. She and her family were the progenitors of the Atlanteans. Her after father and mother died was when Poseidon married her, and it was he who built the encircling citadel in honor of her, which he may have copied from the original Atlantis port city? For like Adam, the Poseidon of Solon's narrative is the personification of a race and not an individual being. Poseidon also brought up under the earth the warm and cold springs to the center of the island. He beget five pairs of twins and dividing the kingdom in 10 parts which he gave his eldest the main citadel and adjacent lands that was his mothers and made him the main king over the rest. The others were made princes to rule over other lands. Atlas was the eldest and before he was born the central citadel area was not the only empire kingdom it extended from western and southern coastal regions of Portugal from the neighborhood of the present site of Lisbon southwards and incorporated parts of Spain as far south as and including the country around Cadiz: the present north-western parts of Africa as far eastwards as the then Tunisian shore of the Mediterranean, overlooking Lake Tritonis, or present Gulf of Gabes, Tripoli and Sidra; in all likelihood the extreme southwest corner of England, and, as one writer, Comyns Beaument has suggested, the whole peninsula of Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, with Bath as its local capital and seaport, and the present island groups of the Azores, Madeiras, Canaries, and Cape Verde. Other writers from felt the kingdom also stretched from Morocco south to coasts now lying opposite of Cape Verde. The real time taken to build the kingdoms may have taken at least into a millenia. The location of Cleito's orignal location may have been south of the Atlas Mountain Range and on the shores of the Ocean which occupied what is now the Sahara Desert. This may have been what was the Terra Siriadica of antiquity in which at some unknown time the Siriadic columns were errected, according to Josephus, and Euseubius with referances made by Paul Hoffman). In Algeria, many years ago, I was assured by certain Marabouts that an immense subterranean lake lies under this desert at a depth varying from 150 to 1200 feet, and what is more, fish live and breed in these underground waters and even rivers. It would be interesting to see what would happen if the artesian wells, it might well lead to the emergence of a new and fruitful land.

When this underground lake use to wash the southern and eastern shores of the Atlas Range, the cities, fishing villages and ports which galleys may have ported now no longer exists. King Atlas may have had his kingdom lay near north-west Africa at a time when the Straits of Gibraltar did not exist.

Webmaster Note- If we take Poseidon's name we will find that Poseidia was a variation and gives a clue that it is not directly broken as Po-Seidon, or Sidon as if it were Set and On, or Osiris. Po itself means Sea-Side in meaning thus Po='Side' of a mouth not the mouth itself which explains why the name would include a Bay terminology in the first instance before the 'mouth' of a river. If Po- is self-explanatory then Seid-On or Sei-Tun are the possible other form, and a name like Zatuon would be similar. This may indicate the hard name of Djet-On or Zjet then Seid as the 'Pillar of Osiris' not Hercules. For the Sjed festival held its name closely to Djed 'Pillar' see. The effect is a layer that should look like this:

Poseid-Dun 'Divine (souls) Hill' Archaic Greek-Egyptian

Possido, -sidere,-sedi, sedeo or 'take seize, have power over sea, sit or seat' Roman-Lat.

Praecedo, -cedere, Praeduco, -praedico or'to go before','construct before',before others

(Po)-Suti-hintiu, or 'Underworld Seat' is Etruscan borrowed from Basque 'Seat of Hendiu, or Hondu' i.e. "Western Horizon-Mountain" of the dead sun god gone to underworld.

Fossa, 'divine trench' feminized from Fodo? Celtic

Bossit, Bassit, Bosset is also Egyptian for Basset or Bast, the Cat.

Phocea-d as a Greek Seal name clan.

The conclusion is that a statement once made this word, 'a divine seat (soul's authority) on a great hill be-side the sea on the Western Horizon has gone into the Underworld with the lost older Sun god'.

The implication that it was constructed or made before Greece kingdom is clear, and that even Italy's Poseidonis Port on the West Coast is by the 'Sea-Side' with Basque place names says that it was far west of that where it happened even beyond Spain?

There is one last weird association found in Egyptian Bu or Pu means 'Seat' and if we give literal Seid for 'Seat' it is a replication one Egyptian the other Greek. This means the 'Sea' in Seid has been slammed into the meaning for seat, and involves a dual note or plural form. Which may explain the double-side-d Crete like ax, Po-ss-id, in a sense prince twin's kingdom a very old concept and replaced the Triton (female) into male. This, however, is much latter an effect in language, but may keep the more ancient meaning intact. The internal geographic meaning is 'Bay-Side Town' and now we cannot disregard that the Basque city of Bay-ona (Bay of Osiris) is not the same as Poseidon of the Greek's a big Seal hunter's town!!! In this case Poseidon may end up being in a more religious form the "(Divine) Seat of On or Osiris", or like Busiris is to Egypt and Bast. No matter, it does represent one of the oldest names played with once in reverence and latter in pun. We can see a whole myth was built into this name, and its older name for this King had to originally do with his 'Grove of Trees, or flowers' he pruned that went into the sea with the seals, I call P-ossha-nti-lan and a variation on Atlantis own name.

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1954

Lost Atlantis (part 4) Bryant, by Egerton Sykes


The younger to Atlas was given the Kingdom of Pillars of Hercules region according to Critias the younger, and a country still called (470-400 B.C.) Land of Gades. Poseidon gave him the name of Eumelos given to us in Hellenic tongue, but in the country named after him Gadeiros. The division of the brother's kingdom Atlas got within the Southern Regions of Morocco, and Gadeiros the region towards and within the Iberian Peninsula. His dominion connected with the Peninsula and a capital at the extremity. Also, the term Land of Gadei, as Solon calls it Gadetania. It probably corresponded in form to the Cornwall and Devon In England, or to Brittany, France. Then the capital may have been a seaport on the sea shore: and so we can only suppose that Andalusia at that time lay beneath the sea that washed the mountain slopes of Granada- and thus the Pillars of Hercules had not been thrown up from the depths. This is the only location known that gives identity and location. It clearly shows Gadeir-os, the -os being a common Hellenic suffix, was the Atlantean form: and components of its Hellenic form, Eumelos, have been traced to an identification of one of the ten original divisions of the empire of Atlantis. Melos is Greek meaning 'Black' based on the swarthiness of the most ancient district of Spain, still existing and indeed heightened by an infusion of Arab Moorish blood from Mauritania, or else to color of the wool of the famous Merino sheep, which are understood to have originated here. Cadiz occupies a part of the site of the ancient Gades of Plato's narrative, Phoenicians use it as an entry port in their trade with Tyre, Sidon, and Carthage. The historical date of city founding is 1,170 B.C., but existed as a port of call for mariners if it was indeed a Atlantean City. The city was built across from this loaction from Europe and Africa, probably joined where we now find the Pillars of Hercules. Due to the subsiding from earthquakes and other forces the region of Gades, and the Capital of Eumelos are lost. Cadiz was thrown up along with the Granada Mountains southern slopes as the sea retracted: for a time it formed island eastwards of Atlantis and was gradually joined to the new mainland of Spain. The present City of Cadiz is really situated on an island. The same chain of events effected Lisbon. Portugal and Spain are still showing volcanic activities and the peninsula maybe rising. Lisbon and Cadiz were two prominent headlands on the eastern coast of the main island of Atlantis, which may have been the most important sea-ports while they faced the south-west, the capital city proper of King Atlas, at the same time a comparatively hidden seaport, faced then-existing island of Mauritania, washed on its western shores by the Atlantean ocean, on its south by the Sahara Sea, and on its northern and eastern coasts by the waters of the Middle Sea, our Mediterranean, which divided from Lake Tritonis and the Sahara Sea by very narrow necks of land. Spain is indeed very bare of archaeological remains previous to the irruption of the Basques, Iberes and others of the earlier races of Neolithic men: only the extreme southern regions seem to have been colonized by the Phoenicians. Gadeir may be the original name from Atlantean times when the aboriginal people mentioned the name to Phoenicians. The word 'gaddir' means 'hedges' used by the aborigines to guard themselves or their flocks and herds from attack. The possible true Phoenician name was this location was Tartessos or Tarshis, but has been used in many other locations so for now disregarded. It may have been Gades, 25 miles from the Pillars of Hercules where Geyron lived and kept his herds of cattle and flocks of sheep. In Greek myths he had three bodies and three heads. Hercules ninth labor was to kill him and by so received the name Gadetani. May have been a Atlantean Chieftain, or shepherd king, ruling three pastoral tribes of uncouth, uncultivated people, and an easy prey for the brutal Hercules and his gang! The second pair of twins born to Poseidon and Cleito we read that the father "called one Ampheres and the other Evaemon." It seems their territory was a region lain north of the site of Lisbon and thus been the lost land of Lyonesse. The third pair of twins he gave the name Mnessos to the elder Autochton who followed as the younger twin.

In Greek, "self-born or persons originating locally in very regions in which we will find them" in other words, such as have never left their native soil! It is difficult to see where these locations are but one clue is that it represents agricultural then maritime population. The whole eastern side was given to Atlas, his brother Gadeiros and others. To the fourth pair of twins the names of Elasippos, and the younger Mestor. The Hellenic tongue gives some clues to their geographic identity. Elasippos resembles the capital city of Portugal and also to the cult hero Ulysses, Trojan War. We find the Greek names of Ypsilon and Upsilon, and Greek family name of Ypsilanti as from Phoenicia and Greece by way of trade from spoken Atlantean tongue. The voyages of Ulysses it may be considered possible that he arrived at the estuary of Tagus in a ship called the Horse or Elas, or Greek Horse, for a while he stayed there, forming a settlement named after him: we have it on Solon's own authority that the meaning of the Elasippos in Greek was the same as its Atlantean equivalent, and we also know that for the Greeks the horse was associated with sea and its lord, Poseidon. It became his totem animal, and he was often depicted sitting in a conch shell for a chariot, with horses to draw it: and this creature was sacrificed to him on many of the altars of antiquity. It is likely there was several successive sites of modern Lisbon: and as with most famous cities, it has either had one foundation built upon another or else has disappeared in some convulsion to make room for a later city: but the original first foundation of the city of Lisbon long ago sank into the waters of the Atlantic washing the shores of the present-day Portugal. It appears probable that this region of Portugal, together with Gades to its southeast, lay on the eastern side of the Island of Atlantis. Mestor, we have tracing with difficulty his location, the Greek name is appearing later in time connected with Troy, Argos and the coasts of Palestine. Egypt, as far as known was not completely conquered by Atlanteans and may not be Mestor's region. The fifth pair of twins he gave the elder the name of Azaes, and to the younger, Diaprepes. All these inhabitants and rulers of various islands in the open sea, and also, as has been stated, and held power in other directions over the countries within the Pillar of Heracles as far as Egypt and Tyrrhenia." We may infer the Islands of Madeiras the Canaries, Cape Verde and even the far more westerly Antilles of the Gulf of Mexico-

Bearing in mind that the Azores were once part of the mainland of the island of Atlantis itself. The rise of the empire was before the Straits of Gibralter had been formed, and latter convulsion boosted both Mount Colpe and Mount Abila to its present position. Mauritania at that time may have been a separate territory, the previously existing Sahara Sea rushing out into the Atlantic on its southern shores and into the Mediterranean on its northern side, carrying away with it Lake Tritonis. We shall find that the Sargasso Sea covers for its greater extent both the extreme westerly coasts of the Island of Atlantis and its more central parts. Also, the Sargasso weeds where progressive from what was once an inlet sized lake. It is almost certain that the mountainous regions of the island lay on its eastern side, "which sloped precipitously into the Atlantic from the western littoral of Africa below Cape Blanco, if not further south": consequently they can be identified with the Atlas Range of North-West Africa. (Pg.55 missing). Legend, however, connects Gades, which was situated on the small Isle De Leon in the river of Guadalquiver, an important centre of Phoenician commerce, with the mythical island of Erythia an island which "lay in the west under the rays of the setting sun". This Island, associated with Hercules and the oxen Geryon, though later identified by Strabo and others as Gades itself, may have been

either a part of Atlantis or another elevation in the estuary of the Guadalquiver, then much longer than at present, and formed an Atlantean colonial outpost. The existence of a prehistoric road running from Cadiz to Liguria, according to Mrs. Whishaw, lends some support to this hypothesis. Absense of Atlantis remains due to catastrophe leaves little if just folk-memory.

Bellamy gives the following alternative interpretations: Ampheres-One who encompasses; Evaemon- One who discerns; Autochon-One who springs from the soil.

Donnelly refers to a Semetic God named Mneseus-The Meditator (Mediterranean?). Elasippos he calls a horse driver. Maybe name symbol of a tribe, referring to the mainland introduction of Atlantean introduced horses, or seals? Smith gives Mestor as the name of four mythical personages, another source says this was the name of one of the sons of Perseus, who may have had an Atlantean origin. The name resembles that of the first of the Egyptian Canopic Gods: Mesti or Mestha.

Budge translates Azaes as "the Parched one", which gives it a desert or arid region origin. Diaprepes, he translates as : The Shinning One. (a term for Osiris, and Isis)

Webmasters Note- The Azaes having a name like the Azores which does have a arid aspect to some of those Islands. The Mesti has a much longer history then this for Mestor which has the 'Sons of Horus' identifications in Egypt, or Mesti-Hr i.e. 'Blacksmiths of Horus' who were Harpooners?? Also, the early

Hittites had been in the region and called Cadiz in a variant of 'Katta'-es, and shows the earlier reason of why the Egyptians called Quet-s a kind of very early Cat-Goddess almost contemporary with Bast, and may have been a fisherman's temple for protection at Sea. Implying an even earlier form. Some forms of Quetzalcoatl has the Basque like name of a Cat-Salt-Water, as being instead of a serpent with wings (Mexico), but a cat with a seal (with whiskers earlier horse?) or fish body (Basque). The serpent may in fact be even earlier as a motif due to a creature like a cat might later in religion overcome. The flying snake as the kind found in S. America, or Africa had the mystical association like flying fish would to a fisherman. The snake and fish have scales! Quetzal, however, had some other associations with the Hoatzal Bird. Quetzalcoatl we can see now has rainbow plumes is a Rainbow or Rain God meaning and that combined with the Sea Serpent with Wings is a story about also the introduction of (fire) cooked- food (Lightning); as opposed to raw-gathering-food myths, that came with new cultivation practices. What the Cat has in common is it was a Fire Cult also that underlies the serpents own wings of fire?

To the North American Indians they eat their horses or became extinct, and converted the horse with the body of a seal into a cat with a seal body like the kind found in Lake Michigan region art?

The Harbour of Nan Matal (Metalanim-Ponape), by F.W. Christian go to the list for 1954 begins, 'The Caroline Islands' ed. E. Sykes

(for divers of Team Atlantis.com to review Ponape link, what about this harbor that is just as early?)

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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2009, 10:33:51 am »

Dear CAROLYNE,

A marvellous recitation of EGERTON  SYKES !

But as with the Lord of the Rings by TOLKIEN

I cannot remember the names of the countries and Isles because of Alzheimer's syndrome

I know that Atlantis is not the original name for that place but in greek it is just ATHE(=" White- Land " or Atala.)

In the KORAN Surat 89 "Al Far " the people of Ad(= white-LAND.) are warned for the TSUNAMI/ CATACLYSM by a prophet called HUD or HATARI(= White Arabian Elephant) called GRIGORI in Hebrew. Ad= Aden Atlantis in the Gulf of Aden

GOg & MAGOG means " White ( Arabian-)Elephant COUNTRY because GOG and  OGYGOS means "( White arabian-) Elephant King " Blue"
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( Blue's)THEORY, locating"original" Atlantis( in Aden-Yemen.)
1: ATLANTIS =Fake=Latin name, original Greek: ATHE(=a Region in Aden)
2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2009, 11:31:25 am »



QUOTE:


"I cannot remember the names of the countries and Isles because of Alzheimer's syndrome"



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Quit trying to fool people with that 'stock-in trade-line'!!

If REALLY had anything like that, you'd be looooonnnnggg gone......

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 11:35:40 am »

ALZHEIMER's" Syndrome" comes in variations of severity I was lucky but what information I did not jot down today I forget tomorrow
my shoppinglist is in the care vof the Milkman my bankaccount Rentpaying & and Tax-deductions are " automized" I was refused a drrivwer's license because my reactionspeed endangers the  traffic-safety .

You can call this indeed, 'lazziness' but I call it " slowness" I am ) also socially-)handicapped with got an eyesight of dioptery:-20 and Glaucome in BOTH eyes with one eye operation-failure I dare not have my other eye operated, before technologists can assure me the previous failure won't be repeated !

I have (at age 49 )Rheumatoiid Arthritus inboth large Toes and both indexfingers and Thumbs,  I cannot hold a pen long enough to jot down anything let alone remember, what I have written yesterday ! What I cannot do is learn: today  all my - aquired- knowledge stopped at 2000 ad.
I have not been able to learn or aquire new facts since. 

And Yes my ( pre-natal-)Alzheimer's "Syndrome" is a good excuse to hide behind, my Ex- wife left me because she did not want to stay married to an " Alzheimer- Zombie ".
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( Blue's)THEORY, locating"original" Atlantis( in Aden-Yemen.)
1: ATLANTIS =Fake=Latin name, original Greek: ATHE(=a Region in Aden)
2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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If all that were true, you wouldn't be able to use the methods you do to get your way.



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       Have you noticed there is no more discussion on Atlantis, ancient history and Greek Mythology?


                        YOU HAVE DRIVEN ALL SERIOUS RESEARCHERS OFF THIS BOARD


                                                      AREN'T YOU PROUD?
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