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« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2008, 10:28:19 am »

it is the hieght of silliness to preach to someone about being presumptive then turn around and be twice as presumptive. sargasso sea??? i presume you might not be the geographer you think you are.
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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2008, 10:33:33 am »

BlueHue,

You are sadly mistaken and are misleading other people!

The Milos conference concluded that Plato's Atlantis did indeed sink approximately 9000 years before Solon.  This was one of the twenty-four criteria that the participants agreed upon by consensus.

"The Metropolis of Atlantis was destroyed 9000 years before the 6th century BC."

http://milos.conferences.gr/index.php?id=4354
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« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2008, 04:53:51 pm »

NO,...dear ........TOM,


It is you that have not spotted this, but your socalled " Participants-24 Criteria CONSENSUS"
 from the MELOS -2005-CONF. was a suggestion in advance to " ward-off" free thinkers that set-up the Applecart !
Your statement add to this fraud, after sending my abstract in I got a message that I could NOT participate UNLESS
I agreed with those 24 REFERENCE-POINTS Well I did not instead I commented opn them
alternatively sio I was not accepted as a Lectorer !


The 9.000 BEFORE SOLON is a fallacy, just because King CECROPS who was JUDGING
Atlantis MUTATION to another Godhead( from  POSEIDON, to > ATHENA.)Reined from
900 bc untill: 855 bc, and you will notice that I don't mean 900 BEFORE ' Solon', .... but 900 bc.
Get it ? ?
 Cry Shocked Cry
Sincerely " BlueHue " dd 22 June- 2008
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( Blue's)THEORY, locating"original" Atlantis( in Aden-Yemen.)
1: ATLANTIS =Fake=Latin name, original Greek: ATHE(=a Region in Aden)
2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2008, 07:58:43 pm »

Hi,

I hope someone could say something on this:

24th Criteria

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No physically or geologically impossible processes were involved in the formation and destruction of the Metropolis of Atlantis, but could not have been responsible for the destruction of a landmass the size of a continent. Also, no physically or geologically impossible processes were involved in the formation of hot water springs and in the formation of red, white and black rocks.

http://milos.conferences.gr/index.php?id=4354


They should change it to something like:

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Physically and Geologically possible processes were involved in the formation and destruction of the Metropolis of Atlantis.


Because the "disapearence" of the Island wasn't provoked by the water but something else..
 
Critias never states that Atlantis was destroyed, but that it disappeared or vanished, as a consequence of the sinking, please correct if i am wrong.

Therefore there should be room to wider considerations,  and in this specific aspect (my theory depends on the said  "impossibility") i think it would be most important for the "vanguard" to acknowledge the eventuality of a Plate Tectonic sudden move, it is still a young Science...who knows what comes out of the hat?

Actually, i found the last point a little awkward, and imprecise, for the rest it is just Atlantis as usual.

regards,

M

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« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2008, 08:19:01 am »

Dear..........MARIO...and... TOM...HEBERT


I once too, thought of Atlantis sunken in the NILE- Delta, but abandoned that Thought.


As I allready mentioned to TOM  HERBERT below,


 The MELOS conference 25 - CRITERIA were formed BEFORE it started

and is misquoted afterwards.


 BECAUSE ,

during this Conference it became CLEAR that the Date of 9.000 before SOLON

is a fallacy and should be 900 before Solon, because a very LATE-King CECROPS
 is mention in the DEMISE- Event !


( Personally " BlueHue " things that it is rather
900 before Christ instead of 900 before SOLON.


The TEN FOLD decimal exaggerations

 of the Measures of Atlantis in TIME, SIZE and INHABITANTS by Plato,

have a simple COMMON cause, because in the latin version the MULTIPLE Sign
 is the Small-x" and the TEN-Sign is
 the " CYPHER >>BIG- X " which became confused.


 The Galapoulous 1969 Atlantis book

 explained that the Sentence" Greater than TWO ajacent Provinces"
read as MEZO should be read as
 MESO= INBETWEEN the TWO continents .
Like in the wellknown geological Phrase for Paradise-Location:
MESO-PothaMIA(= inbetween THE TWO RIVERS.)


Those TWO Continents

were using LATIN names which GREEK names were LYBIA-in Aethiopia and
ASIA-Minor was actually ASIA- MAJOR which is alo known as Arabia- FoELIX

EVEN Herodotus mentioned Atlantis,  as located in: the ISLE of ERYTHIA(=Red-Land.),
 located in the Erytraean Sea.
ARABIA-  FoELIX as the City of Ras(= ISLE-) ADEN.  and EUHEMERUS as located in the ISLE of MEROPIA(= Red-Land.)


Thus the Place called ADEN
was in the right greekversion Spot that the GREEK Plato envisaged but that the LATIN translators transferred to Southern Spain.

Sincerely-

" BlueHueCry Shocked Cry dd 25-June--2008

Post Scriptum:

THIS MEANS THAT HALF OF THE 25 -MELOS CRITERIA

now also usesd at the ATHENS- Conference, are invalid but this information is not

centrally linked to the gullible-Atlantologists that still use these Faulty data

in their ignorance of the latest  Data change. Should I tell them or would You ? ?  Grin

TOM HEBERT,
 was informed but now he is sulking
because he thinks that the false Data
were the traditionally right ones and felt very sad
about the 2.000 years old deception attributed to Plato's latin translators !
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1: ATLANTIS =Fake=Latin name, original Greek: ATHE(=a Region in Aden)
2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2008, 08:41:00 am »

BlueHue,

You are sadly mistaken and are misleading other people!

The Milos conference concluded that Plato's Atlantis did indeed sink approximately 9000 years before Solon.  This was one of the twenty-four criteria that the participants agreed upon by consensus.

"The Metropolis of Atlantis was destroyed 9000 years before the 6th century BC."

http://milos.conferences.gr/index.php?id=4354
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Dear..................MARIO   +  TOM - - HEBERT ,


I AM Sorry about
the raised misunderstanding: Mistaken about WHAT ? '
Atlantis was NO island in my opinion' If it sunk in the Nile -Delta
like in ABUKIR- Bay(= Heracleapolis minor.)
" GEORGEOS " mentions it was a PENINSULA,

My opinion is that it was a Promotory consisting of a TOMBOLO(= Sunken Volcano,
in the AFAR- Trialgle area)

connected to a mainland but separated from it by a hand dug ISTHUMUS or TRENCH
So both Peninsula and Promotory/ island are right, it was NOT in the Atlantic, but
 also not in the Mediaterranean- region. But in the Indian Ocean area.


YOU ARE APPARENTLY  also MIS-INFORMED ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE MELOS-2005- Conference,

Because The 75 Euro-Book that is issued was too expensive (=100 Euro's including cost and handling.)
SO,   is not read by any of the Forum members except ' GEORGEOS '
but he closed his SPECIALLY CREATED website WITH review of the contense


" GEORGEOS ",

 Found satisfaction in the fact that he,  before the Conference, 
 was one of the very few 'professional' Atlantologist to adher to the 900 years issue.

of the 900 bc opinion and they called him an unpleasent person, but after the Conference
the precious-traditional Date of 9.000 Years BEFORE the 6-th century bc ,was abandoned
and discarded in favour of the 900 years before the 6-th century bc.


THORWALD- FRANKE and REINHARD- KUHNE and company are the only ones that
 have issued a full review of their Atlantis in Sicilly or Malta Theory.(  but in a Labyrinth access fashion.)

Most other Atlantologists have only assumed that by their statement
that ONE of the Isles in the World or the Meditaranean region should be Atlantis
and that was that.


My valid argument is that ALL Atlantologists are barking-up the wrong tree
including the present person whom I am addressing,

Because All Atlantologists  simply REFUSE to believe  are reluctant to accept
 the logicalargument that,
and felt offended
that I tell them that ATLANTIS is a LATIN mistranslation
of the ORIGINAL....GREEK word ATHETA(-Land.)

The COUNTRY named ATHETA(- Land.) Still exists under that name it is
the County surrounding the PORT-of ADEN and is presently named" ATHE "
The rest is history.


The MILOS Conference did NOT " Conclude " the List that you refer to,
but it  was a forgone PRE-Clusion, that was issued before the Conference had started,
in order, chanell the direction of disc overy and  to " weed-out " run-away-theories !


BECAUSE

there was a confusion about the Small-x or multiple SIGN
in combination with the BIG- X or TEN-Cypher Sign, used by latin translators.


the TEN_FOLD exaggerations
 
of Plato in TIME,  Number of INHABITANTS and SIZE-measurements
  of the CITY occurred by the LATIN translators.


THIS MEANS SIMPLY

THAT half OF THE REPUTED 25- ATLANTIS CRITERIA OF Melos conference, ARE INVALID
 BUT the HELIOTOPOS Publisher seeded confusion about the latest  Consensus to promote his publications !

Sincerely,

" BlueHue "      Cry   Shocked   Cry  dd. 25-June--2008

Post Scriptum,

TOM,
 I appreciate your efforts in trying to mend my way,
by your cautious message pre-warning about me about
confusing and misleading other Atlantologists
 from walking on the convential road of ancient( atlantis-)history.

but too much Media-shortage/=Shortening has caused
and still is causing  deep historical harm already:

 FOR EXAMPLE:

Most atlantologist and newage seekers argue that BACON ( in 1627.)
told his readers that in his opinion America was ancient ATLANTIS.

THIS is such a " Media-SHORTAGE/ Shortening I mean,  " BECAUSE "
BACON told his readers that America was like a
 NEW- Atlantis for future Utopists.

DO  YOU  SEE ?
the media leave out just ONE word and the facts get a whole differend meaning.

I learned that I must assume that NO othetr Atlantologist realy is intrested
in my THEORY  VERSION, so the best I could do is devise a standard phrase to catch
my theory, in a nutshell,  for even the die-hards of another theory by using the space
of my subscipt to tell my theory, but no Atlantologist was compelled to comment it
 
Maybe just maybe you are the first to really read and comment on my nutshell-theory.


BRYNWYNS
or whatever was trying to force the 25 or 50 Reference-points on me
but did not wait for my answerering them alternatively.  Grin
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1: ATLANTIS =Fake=Latin name, original Greek: ATHE(=a Region in Aden)
2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2009, 10:54:42 am »

  Dear  Q

ATLANTIS could have been in the NILE- Delta

I thought of Lake MANZALAH + Heraclea MINOR as the Capital

ONLY  IF:

 ASIA Minor was Plato's ASIA and Lybia was Plato's Lybia, but it is not.

In Plato's time tghese names were givven to ARABY and East Africa and teh present names were invented by Roman Governrs AFTER Plato had died
So you can fathom the consequences/ ramifications,  for the MAIN Stream THEORIES validation at this point
Hi Julia
I sure do admire minds that can figure things like this out. 

What do you think?  Do you think Atlantis was in the Nile Delta?  Plato said it was protected from the north by mountains.  Are there mountains in the Nile Delta, or north of the spot in question?  He also said that a great power was going to attack Egypt and Athens in one blow.  Why would the Egyptians attack themselves?  Unless the rulers of that one area, were going to attack the rest of Egypt.  Plato also says that the Atlanteans had control of Libya and part of Europe.  I wonder if this meant as in a great trading power, or sea power? 
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( Blue's)THEORY, locating"original" Atlantis( in Aden-Yemen.)
1: ATLANTIS =Fake=Latin name, original Greek: ATHE(=a Region in Aden)
2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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